#against the crowd asks

[gale-gentlepenguin]

For the controversial opinions game:

The enemies-to-lovers trope is extremely overrated and friends-to-lovers is better.

“No one on earth has ever been more wrong.”| “You are incorrect.” | “You are mistaken, but I get why.”| “That opinion is Common consensus” | “you are not wrong.” | “You are right and You should say it.” | “F*** the crowd, you are 100% Right.”

FACTS!

People just obsessed with the tension that they fail to see the genuine care that comes with friends to lovers.

It’s a good trope but everyone is so focused on Enemies to lovers.

#against the crowd asks #controversial opinions

[thesaintofnevergettingitright]

Joey Batey on Taskmaster when??? Send tweet.

#joey batey #taskmaster #the amazing devil #the witcher #mine #this is the crossover only I am asking for #fully cannot decide whether that man would hate every minute of it or THRIVE #is he a comedian? No. but we’re living in my delusion here so *it doesn’t matter* #the more I think about it the more I think there’s a real chance he’d ✨hate✨ it #but I personally would enjoy it and that’s what matters #while we’re at it throw Richard Ayoade in there too #they’ve had half the IT crowd already #might as well try to get the whole set #on the other hand Richard ayoade’s energy might be too close to Alex Horn’s lmao #they might overwhelm all other energies #we’ve gotten off topic #My point is put Joey Batey on taskmaster possibly against his will #for the culture

[fromtheseventhhell]

IDK if it's exactly what you wanted but your recent post about Mirri came "in time" for what I've seen.

Here are some screeshots of tags from this post

To me it seems like they try to critique the writing but as always, tend to blame the character. Plus, they sprinkle some lies (that Dany forced Mirri to save Drogo, that she refuses to engage with history), they project onto GRRM (that he wants to critique violent intervetionism with her), they ignore his statement about the "white saviour" accusations (which fair, you may not find them satisfying but still, take his intentions into account), they take away acountability of what the slavers did (bc THEY turned Slaver's Bay into a "hole of death" and was that long before Dany arrived) and not saying why "she allowed slavery to continue", which is a convenient way to frame her as immoral because after the masters of Yunkai attacked Astapor, and because "gently born" people, anticipating the struggle in Meereen, ask her to let them sell themselves back into slavery :

"My queen?" Daario stepped forward. "The riverside is full of Meereenese, begging leave to be allowed to sell themselves to this Qartheen. They are thicker than the flies."

Dany was shocked. "They want to be slaves?"

"The ones who come are well spoken and gently born, sweet queen. Such slaves are prized. In the Free Cities they will be tutors, scribes, bed slaves, even healers and priests. They will sleep in soft beds, eat rich foods, and dwell in manses. Here they have lost all, and live in fear and squalor."

"I see." Perhaps it was not so shocking, if these tales of Astapor were true. Dany thought a moment. "Any man who wishes to sell himself into slavery may do so. Or woman." She raised a hand. "But they may not sell their children, nor a man his wife." (ASOS, Daenerys VI)

I mean, she does this because she wants to respect their choice and she makes sure no one is forced to be enslaved. I don't think she should have allowed it but I understand why. It was not out of mallice. (here is a meta about how she is not a slaver X , X )

Plus the tendency to blame Daenerys fans for pointing out how the situation with Mirri was grey, that Mirri indeed killed Rhaego, but they can defend Mirri and acuse us, Dany stans, of being racists and whatnot.

Ironically my post was about conversations on Twitter (I know) where people were demonizing Dany and I found out this post was actually what started it all, so my post was unintentionally a response to this one. I'm gonna talk a little bit about this conversation and the overall conversations about racism in this fandom but I don't mean it as a direct reply to OP's post. The only thing I have to say specific to their post is that it does stand out to me that they acknowledge the issue with Mirri's writing, which is that it's part of a trend with how characters of color are written, but they fail to actually talk about said characters. Their main point isn't even about how Mirri is handled, it's on the subject of Dany's whiteness.

The thing about discussing racism in asoiaf is that it's a more complex and nuanced conversation than a majority of people are willing to have. Often times it just gets devolved into justifications for disliking a specific character and this was the same attitude people had towards the show. If there's racism in the writing, then that's a factor that affects how the entire series is written, it doesn't just reflect poorly on a single character. People definitely act like that's the case though.

On the subject of Mirri and her treatment, it's rare that people discuss her character without using her as a means of bashing Dany. The screenshots you provided highlight this. We're supposed to believe that Mirri's actions towards Dany are justified and that Dany's actions towards Mirri are racist solely on the basis that Mirri is a WOC, but it's not that simple (Also note that it's always "Mirri was right to do what she did" but they never talk about what specifically she did, which was force the abortion of a 14-year-old bridal slave. Somehow saying exactly what happened doesn't make her as sympathetic). What makes the writing racist isn't the situation itself, it's the idea of characters of color being disposable in service of white characters' arcs. But this situation is often talked about as an isolated event, in a vacuum. The logic applied just doesn't work. If race is such an important factor, why was Mirri right to kill a child of color over a prophecy she was ultimately wrong about? There are plenty of racist connotations in the "brute" narrative surrounding POC, specifically men of color, but people eagerly justify his death because of the hypothetical harm he could've caused. They also completely ignore that the prophecy wasn't about him, so the justification is that a child of color can be murdered if people assume they'll cause harm. There were also the others in Drogo's Khalasar that Dany couldn't help because of her situation. Eroeh suffered a horrible fate before her ultimate death, but Dany would've conceivably been able to help her if she hadn't been incapacitated. So does the fact that Mirri's actions harmed other POC, and not just a white woman, factor in at all? Or are we not supposed to care about them because they are, however positively, associated with Dany?

That also leads to the question of what exactly would be the right way of handling this situation. Dany's whiteness is the biggest criticism but her being a woc would come with its own racist connotations. Dany's life of poverty and being sold as a slave would've had other implications when contrasted to the other primarily white, high-born female characters. So what would've been a better way of handling the Dothraki and other people of color in this series? Whether Dany is white or not, the problem isn't solved. Somehow that's never a conversation being had, despite the number of people who supposedly care so much. It also seems as though Dany's suffering, and only Dany's suffering, is considered justifiable through her whiteness. If Dany had been the one to die instead, it still would've been a child bridal slave being killed. How is that the "better" option for people supposedly concerned with racism and misogyny? With almost any other female character their suffering is never justified regardless of who is causing it.

There is just...a different set of standards people have for Dany than they have for any other character. Someone brought up the point that Robb's part in the war caused incredible violence to the smallfolk, yet he is considered one of the noblest characters in the series. We see firsthand the devastation the Northerners are responsible for through Arya's POV, and many women and children specifically are harmed. We hear about countless women being raped and killed from the fallout of Robb's actions but somehow that's not Robb's responsibility. On top of that, there are plenty of smallfolk who have actively anti-North mindsets. Robb, who isn't trying to bring about systemic change or actively focused on fighting for the smallfolk, isn't responsible for the damage he causes them. Dany, who is trying to overthrow a violent system built on subjugating people, is the most evil character in the series because she interacts with characters of color more than anyone else. But then...people seem uninterested in discussing privileges and harm caused when it isn't related to bashing Dany. It's damn near taboo to refer to certain characters as classist, even when that's how they're written.

If you want to discuss racism in the series and fandom though, let's do it! Let's talk about the depiction of the Dothraki vs. The (white) Wildings and the difference in nuance and empathy they get, let's talk about how the current generation of Starks benefit from colonization and the eradication of the children of the forest (who are very much indigenous-coded) and how that's not framed as a bad thing, let's talk about women of color who are already being enslaved before Dany was sold to the Dothraki, let's talk about Alayaya + the senseless violence she faces and how her pain is used to give Tyrion angst, let's talk about the various background women of color portrayed as sex workers and how that could play into the jezebel trope, let's talk about lack of prominent characters of color outside of Dany's pov, let's talk about how D&D wrote a former Black slave dying in chains, how they portrayed the slaves exclusively as people of color despite slavery not being based on race in the books, let's talk about how they played into the Dothraki's racist writing and portrayed Dany's people as "scary foreign invaders" that the North looked down on, let's talk about how everyone justified the Northerners (and Sansa specifically) being scared even though Dany came to help, let's talk about how people in the fandom were laughing at Missandei's death and saying she deserved to die for being "rude" to a white woman, let's talk about fandom's habit of portraying Jon and Arya (considered the uglier, feral starks) as dark-skinned in comparison to their "white" siblings, let's talk about how the hotd writers made characters Black and then diminished their roles and importance, let's talk about how routinely characters of color are ignored and turned into props by fandom, LET'S TALK ABOUT IT! But no, the only capacity people are interested in talking about racism is when they can use it to bash Dany.

TL;DR/summation: There's nothing wrong with having good-faith conversations about racism in the series or disliking a character because of it. The issue is that that's rarely what happens. Instead of having constructive conversations about race, the pain of characters of color gets turned into props and given no nuance outside of that.

#ask #mikastormborn #fandom nonsense #pro daenerys targaryen #daenerys targaryen #this got very long but who cares lol #I'm just so tired of the fake activism in fandom and the double-standards #either talk about racism or don't #using poc as props against a white women is the very racism you're claiming to care but I guess it's fine if Dany antis do it #mind you there's a real racist white woman that part of this fandom worships but I'm supposed to clutch pearls over Dany #considered not tagging her but honestly want to minimize the chance that certain crowds see this

[homerforsure]

Apparently in an emergency, rather than fight or flight, my body goes for “call dad and then try to pass out.”

#a dog got hit by a car near my workplace today #my dad lives close so i asked him to bring towels cuz trifold paper towels weren’t cutting it #of course by the time he got there there was a crowd and two people ended up taking the doggo to animal control #(cuz it was five and all the vets were closed) #he’s since been transported to an animal hospital and they found his people #but who knows #i started shaking and seeing spots and had to crouch down against the building. #A+ very helpful #tw blood #tw animal injury

[amber-lucca44]

Most played songs of 2020...

Champion (Falling In Reverse)

Those In Glass Houses (Of Mice & Men)

Daddy's Falling Angel (In This Moment)

Unholy Confessions (Avenged Sevenfold)

I Was The Devil For One Afternoon (Boys Night Out)

Calling All Cars (Senses Fail)

I Used To Have A Best Friend (But Then He Gave Me An STD) (Asking Alexandria)

The Best Thing (That Never Happened) (We Are The In Crowd)

Not A Single Word About This (Alesana)

Wasteland (Against The Current)

#nothing has changed evidently lol ❤️ #music #songs #falling in reverse #of mice & men #in this moment #avenged sevenfold #boys night out #senses fail #asking alexandria #we are the in crowd #alesana #against the current #playlist #metal #metalcore #rap metal #melodic metalcore #rock #emo #screamo #post hardcore #alternative #pop rock #punk #alternative rock #2020

[dailyeca]

why dont u like cars eca

what's there to like about em.

#eca orichird #daily eca #lil' eca #not the only one with shades and opinions (asks) #imagine you are a scrawny 4 year old runaway in a big city. the sidewalks are crowded; the afternoon sun beats down; and you're bustled #along with the movement of pedestrians because if you stop moving you're going to get trampled or caught. the movement of the crowd splits #slightly and in the blur you try to move where there's less foot traffic; hit your knees against a metal ledge; and clamber up the step #there's the sound of beeping and coins; but no one notices as you're pushed inward (you realize you're now inside something; a building?) #every chair is taken; there's a disorienting amount of people standing around you. it's loud and scary. your voice catches in your throat #and if you weren't nonverbal already; you sure are now. you dont know what’s happening. the thing you're in jolts and you'd almost fall ove #if you weren't packed in on all sides; there's a rumbling roar that mixes with the rush in your ears and through the sparse gaps in people #you can see the world passing by through glass; the thing you're in is /moving/ and you don't know where and you dont know how to escape an #you can’t find an exit and there's so many people and no one seems to care about you; you’re surrounded by legs much taller than you. #the metal around you rumbles and jolts and screeches and stops and starts and you’re knocked against strangers and you’re scared. #you are in there for an eternity; the people around you shift but more always take their place. at some point; the crowd thins a little #you scramble to follow a lady who seems to know where to go and you emerge onto a sidewalk in front of a library. you’ve never been here #you dont know how far you are from the orphanage. you dont know how to get back. you are very small and scared and feel like things are #never going to be the same again. the suffocation of the bus clings to you; though it may just be a panic attack. lady enters the library #and you unsteadily follow her inside; you spend the rest of the day hiding on a beanbag chair under the stairs and crying silently #at 4 years old this is the worst experience of your life and it sticks with you forever. not to worry though; there will be more.

[bo0zey]

saw mcr in chicago last night and it was literally so traumatizing that i couldn’t even enjoy the show or be happy i deadass hate you psycho animalistic band wagon ass idiot mfs so much thanks for ruining my one chance at seeing and hearing and experiencing my saviors of 10+ years. the band that kept me alive by providing me the emotional stability childhood me needed when everyone else around her was dying and made her feel like giving up too. the one chance i expected to feel the most alive i ever have ended up with me feeling so fucking dead and numb inside. the band whose songs literally filled my lungs with the air i needed to stay alive. and an hour before i was supposed to see mcr you selfish stupid idiots crushed my ribcage and stole all the oxygen i’d been saving for 7 hours standing in that crowd. you crushed my ribcage to the point it couldn’t fully expand and i physically could not inhale or exhale. you crushed me until my descending colon pressed against my equally taut and ungiving abdominal aorta and occluded it until i was physiologically unable to get fresh oxygen to my brain. i was a mere 12 inches and 1 hour away from seeing my band when you stupid senseless fucks ruined everything for me. i was ripped from the barrier and left in an oxygen-deprived mental fog for their entire set. i couldn’t even mouth the words to their songs from 50000000 feet away because the action hurt my ribs and diaphragm too much. god forbid i try to sing along without becoming lightheaded and nauseous because my body was so physiologically traumatized that even breathing without anyone pressed up against me had become painful. i was left in a dissociated state from being pulled out of the crowd until i got home. i couldn’t even drink water because my diaphragm and abdominal organs and aorta were still so traumatized and inflamed it hurt to have anything else inside to add to the excess pressure. i stood like a statue almost their entire set. i felt zero happiness, only immense sadness. i was so numb and dissociated while standing there in the middle of the concert watching the screen and listening to each song that the only thing i could feel were the nonstop flow of tears running down my face at the realization of the horror of it all. at some points i couldn’t even hear the actual music. the only thing i could hear was gerard’s words, as if he were speaking directly to me and it was the only thing keeping me present and grounded and somewhat connected to my body. and do you know????how it feels????? to feel fucking dead inside even though your body’s physically there alive in the same moment as the band that had given you so much life as a kid when you felt like you were dying???? and to just stand there surrounded by a crowd of 50000 people and feel deader than ever??? their music couldn’t even bring me out of this physically traumatized state and just made the emotional trauma exponentiate. i am so heartbroken and feel so defeated and let down and purposeless all over again. i will never have an opportunity like that again and it’s such a fucking hard thing to swallow knowing i couldn’t give my inner child her one chance to be that child again, to feel saved and alive and in love with this beautiful thing life has to offer. i hate all 50000 of you and most of all i hate myself for not being physically strong enough to withstand the physical abuse of that crowd. in conclusion thank u for ruining mcr for me and btw if u have a chance pls go get fucked.

#also don’t bother bitching at me in my ask box abt this Nothing abt crushing someone to death is okay #like that person at travis scott’s concert who get crushed against the barrier and died???? fucking ridiculous #gerard had to stop between every fucking song and tell people to step back from each other #between every song dozens of people were being pulled out of the crowd onto stretchers to the medical tent #even the fucking production guy had to come on stage n tell the crowd they needed to step back or else he ‘can’t let the band back out here’ #like they probably had to cut like 2-3 songs cuz so much time was wasted telling everyone to stop fuckjng killing each other #i won’t even bother going into how horrible this was on my emotional state bc no one would care to understand #mcr was the one thing that gave my life consistency and stability and a chance to feel safe being alive #they saved what little i had left of my childhood. and now i feel like i lost everything #at one point in my life their music even their solo projects every lyric was the only happiness i had #and seeing them live i couldn’t even feel happy. do u know how shitty that feels??? #i’m scared to listen to their music now bc i’m scared i’m just gonna breakdown crying all over again bc i was so close to exerpiencing them #i was so close to being alive and in the flesh with my 4 saving graces and then i was left alone #idc if u think i’m being dramatic u don’t understand how much this moment meant to me #there’s nothing stopping me from reaching club 27 now lol. cuz they’ll never come back again. i have nothing to wait around n stay alive for #also i was supposed to take the pics to remake the mcr returns from the war post but i couldn’t cuz i fainted n got pulled out of the crowd #lollllll life is so silly n funny #ramblings

[akkivee]

I wanted to say that the first time I saw you calling Kuko an attention whore it changed my life forever because like..... yeah.... I think about this a lot

oh???? i kinda feel like i should apologise for that lol???? sorry for being a cause of prolonged kuukou brainrot lmao 🙇‍♀️🙇‍♀️🙇‍♀️🙇‍♀️

#vee got an ask #kiramyssu #it’s a personality trait of his that i don’t think necessarily contradicts his canon distaste for crowds #but i myself think about that and how he doesn’t like crowds lol #like for all that kuukou will boast about himself he has quite a bit of lone wolf tendencies in him lol #he’s making himself a walking Statement and we’ve seen it draw people in so i think it’s neat to have that go against his dislike for crowds #tho fr it doesn’t necessarily lol

[hella1975]

i got a bonus + raise and ive only been working like 3 months im soso excited sorry i just wanted to tell someone

AH THAT'S SO EXCITING! im so happy for you bestie <3

#WHEN IS IT MY TURN! #did i tell you guys that there's a waitress at work who not only is younger than me BUT has only been there like 2 months #and me and one of the OG waitresses (she's been there even longer than i have and there's a real solidarity amongst the OG crowd now) #were talking to this waitress and she goes 'oh yeah i get paid £10.18 an hour lol. DONT tell anyone' #and to contextualise this england has minimum wages that differ based on age brackets #where it's like £5 for under 18s. £7.49 for 18-20 (my bracket) and then it jumps to £10.18 when you turn 21 #so this 19 YEAR OLD NEW WAITRESS was getting paid the wrong minimum wage bracket that baso saw her earning £3 extra an HOUR #than us. which is an insane amount to build up over a long time like ik it doesn't sound like much but TRUST ME it is #and i felt a bit bad for her bc she's new to waitressing and generally quite naive and it SHOWS #like if they put ME on the wrong pay bracket id take that shit to my grave i would NOT risk that being taken from me #but she was just joking with us clearly expecting a PLATONIC social interaction and not a WORKPLACE interaction #like at the end of the day im friends with the people i work with and i not only like this girl but hold nothing against her #BUT NOT ENOUGH FOR IT TO AFFECT MY LITERAL WAGES!!!! I NEED THAT MONEY!!!!! #so yeah me and the other waitress fully snitched and i kinda hoped management might give us some sort of hush bonus #but all they did was lower the girl to the appropriate wage which. fair and again i feel bad for her but WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT ABOUT #so yeah thats MY luck with wages anonstie lmao ur thriving in comparison <3 #ask

[b4kuch1n]

HAPPY YEAR OF THE CAT!!!

happy year of the cat!! 🐱🐈🐱🐈🐱🐈🐱🐈🐱🐈🐱🐈

#ask #linkedsoul #bakuspeech #hi it's lunar 1st! I ate well! a 2hr car ride but otherwise preddy good #now Im gonna get some work done. I should at least finish blocking out the base colors for this one #and then! sleep! and maybe light gambling #tho I have no hope of winning against this crowd... #hope ur lunar new year's goin well too!! hope ur eating good food and having good time. #have a good rest of the day! and the one after too!

[gale-gentlepenguin]

If you're still taking controversial opinions:

It's incredibly annoying that so many people in fandom seem to only care about shipping. OTP this, chrackships that, rarepairs, enemies to lovers, bla bla bla. Is that all these people care about?

"Fanfic is about taking two characters and making them kiss" - just shut up! There's more to fandom and fanworks than characters snogging and boning.

“No one on earth has ever been more wrong.”| “You are incorrect.” | “You are mistaken, but I get why.”| “That opinion is Common consensus” | “you are not wrong.” | “You are right and You should say it.” | “F*** the crowd, you are 100% Right.”

As a man that enjoys what ifs.

I agree.

There is so much more to Fandom than just ships.

#against the crowd #controversial ask game #against the crowd asks

[yiangchen]

why do men feel the need to speak so loud

#i was at the beach and these two guys come and sit a few feet from me because it was really crowded #and initially i thought the one was absolutely gorgeous but then he opened his mouth.... #every word that came out was the most sexist bullshit i have ever heard #he was talking to his friend about having sex with this girl #and hes like dude the last time we had sex she didnt let me put on a condom #MEANWHILE IM LIKE UM HELLO ?? #sir i am trying to sunbathe at the beach and everything i am learning about your sex life is against my will.... #it was just so odd #he said it so loudly #like he wanted girls around him to hear what he was saying #and then he went on saying something about how this same girl wants a relationship now and he was acting like it was so ridiculous #and im like??? #dude why are you so surprised that someone you're having sex with wants more than just sex??? #its....so common for people to have sex and get attached....why is this a surprise lmao #AND THEN IT GETS WORSE #this man says something about how if you want to end up with a 10 you have to keep a 7 around.... #AND THEN #he asks his friend 'hey which one do you want?' very clearly referring to me and these other girls sitting next to me #and im just like is this guy for real...??? #later on i went on to leave and then the friend literally says out loud 'well she's leaving' #they wanted a reaction out of me so bad it was PATHETIC #misogynistic assholes #i literally just yawned and then walked away dkfjasldkfj

[cuntwrap--supreme]

Going to see my favorite band in less than a week and I'm super excited! Only downside is it's like a 4 hour drive to Nashville.

#music #metal #trivium #concert #catch my disabled ass on the sidelines somewhere so i don't get wall of death'd #or I'll find a tall beefy dude and ask if he'll be my human shield #i haven't been to a concert in like 2 years and that was just seeing buckcherry at some hillbilly bar #last concert i actually wanted to go to was nothing more and that was 2015 or something #before that i think the last show I'd seen was 10 years back in high school. their concerts are always cheap cause they're local boys #kinda not done concerts since high school tbh #shit got too expensive at some point. crowds get too violent. got beat up at the last metal show i saw. #kinda left a bad taste #but trivium was like $40 a ticket and it's the closest I've ever seen them so I'm not passing this by #i missed chances to see both Soundgarden and Linkin Park and i will not not see another band that helped form who i am #after this I'll just need to see Rise Against and i think I'll have seen all my angsty teen year faves

[lesbianfreyja]

i know for a fact if it was a woman of color or a trans woman with no celebrity status attached you'd be real quiet. funny how you picked a white woman of mediocre talent to rally around. what is so fucking special about amber heard huh? she's another blonde white woman who has been running on sex appeal and getting jobs that way since the inception of her career and it's not a bit of bad publicity that'll change that at the end of the day. you can stop acting like she's ruined now. she's fine!

you know that for a fact, huh? can y’all stop putting words in my mouth?? it’s not her celebrity that i care about dummy. it’s that no amount of money & power will EVER free ya from misogyny. being trans or a woc would increase her risk of danger from ipv, sure, but when will y’all understand that misogyny is a dangerous influence in society point blank with no additions?

#as you’re actively being sexist to her too! lmao #same crowd saying rich white women will be ok if abortions are banned. no they won’t and anyway why should they have to travel out of state #misogyny is pervasive and working against us! it’s all around us! it didn’t die with suffragettes! sorry ur thick #ask #anon

[terrainofheartfelt]

What do you want to post lol? I’ll vote what you think will be the more fun read.

It is genuinely a toss up for me, friend. on one hand, I can continue this wip that I've been enjoying and continue this sweet little story, or on the other hand, I can share this new thing and hopefully that will motivate me to continue it and see where it goes.

But I guess I can give you more context. :)

chap 11 is more jenate fluff. It's a Getting Ready for An Event Scene (one of my fave fluff genres) with conversations about feelings, and ~smut~

this new work (that I haven't picked a title for yet) is a completely different thing. dair-centric (but of course) and heavy on the Ahngst, and basically a trauma warning grab bag. kind of ambitious for a fluffy bitch like me, but I am putting myself out there.

I mean, these will both go up eventually, but just let me know which one I should spend tonight formatting as I eat chicken nuggets

#you are such a sweetheart to ask and I appreciate it! #but in this case I genuinely do not have a preference #unlike the last time I did one of these unscientific polls and the majority went against my leaning #but I love democracy so I went with the crowd #asks #aplaceatthetable #liz shouting about her fic writing progress into the void

[andrwgarfields]

…

#im just going to put it in the tags cause its something that i wanna say since i’ve read similar comments on youtube #the recent zoom interviews and the panels/interviews at brazil #is it just me or joe has gone significantly quiet and less enthusiastic #as compared to when he was at dif london where he comfortably answered qns from the crowd #maybe because the qns recently are similar #bt the energy just seems different… #and kit has been rambling longer than usual… #it seems hard for joe to intercept as well cause theres no space for him to do so #not anything against kit it doesnt help that joe doesnt seem to speak much so maybe kit feels the need to #fill in the silence #idk the energy shift seems weird to me #i think what really triggered me was during the panel in brazil where the host asked whether hs will open more opportunities #for similar queer shows or something like that #and joe just answered i hope so #which is so unlike him…