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ceo-of-sloppy-men · 1 month

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"But they're evil!"

I know they're evil, but that won't stop me from making them a sopping-wet mess of emotional turmoil and repressed feelings. It's called a redemption arc, not giving the villain the death penalty.

Or, you know, maybe I just want to join them.

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starryeyed-spacegirl · 3 months

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Chapter 36 "A Wandering Wednesday with Jinx" is up!

I wasn't sure if I'd actually manage to post a chapter in January, but the writing muse stopped by to visit today so I harnessed her power and finished the chapter, as you see.

Enjoy everybody!

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aikoiya · 1 year

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Arcane AU - Second Chance Prompt

I kinda wanna see Silco in a second chance sort of story where after getting shot by Jinx, he's confronted by the Aspect of Time.

They show him what is to become of Zaun & Jinx due to his influence.

He sees that while Zaun does gain independence, it also becomes a cesspool of addiction under the Chem-Barons. Though it is better maintained than before, the people are dying as Shimmer mutates them into monsters before killing them.

Not only that, but the mutated wolf monster from Singed's lab is now running around the back alleys killing people. Then it turns out that the Beast is Vander.

All the Chem-Barons care about is running a profit making them no better than the entitled Pilties that they'd scorned.

And without some sort of policing, crime is even more common. Zaunites are dying in droves. New generations aren't being born as a result of the pollution. The population is plunging.

It's then that Silco realizes that if something doesn't change soon, Zaun will die out & become nothing but a rotting, infected wound in the ground.

That Jinx never becomes a well-adjusted or even remotely happy individual. She, in fact, becomes a mass murdering psychopath before being hunted down & killed like a rabid dog. Not by Enforcers, but by her fellow Zaunites. By trying to make himself so ruthless & allowing her to kill at such a young age, never correcting her behavior, & calling her perfect, he comes to realize that he taught Jinx to treat human lives as little more than playthings to be broken then discarded. He never taught her how to be a functional member of society.

This, more than anything else, is something that he deeply regrets. For years, Silco had operated under the ideology that the ends justify the means. Now seeing the consequences of this perspective, he finally understands why Vander tried to kill him. Because Silco's methods resulted in Zaun's death.

This can go one of 2 ways; either Time allows Silco to survive the shot or he can be sent back to relive his life differently. He's allowed to do this on the condition that he creates a better future.

I'd like to see both ideas come to fruition.

Now, I don't wanna see Silco just become this paragon of good. That's bullshit & completely out of character.

More so, I wanna see him become a more medium grey that sometimes ventures into darker & lighter grey depending on the circumstances.

As it stands, he's currently a very dark grey.

Neither do I want Jinx to just suddenly be a different character. She'd still end up a chaos gremlin with a bit of an unhealthy obsession with explosives & guns.

I'd just make her more well-adjusted with a higher consideration for human life is all.

Perhaps a little less reckless?

I also want to see Silco actually try to help Jinx with her self-loathing problem, her belief that she doesn't deserve love, & that she thinks that her mistake makes her a bad person.

I want to see her realize that the voices she hears were never that of Mylo or Claggor, but her own insecurities & self-loathing. That the only one torturing her is herself. That the only way to make them stop, or at least quiet down, is to understand & accept that they are lies & that she is worthy of love.

That her mistake doesn't make her a monster. The conscious decision to kill innocents is what makes a monster.

That people can change no matter how deep they are. That she can change.

If Silco starts his life all over again, I think it'd be interesting if he retained his scar, but as a birth mark, so it's red instead of necrotic black/grey & his iris is naturally yellow/orange/red, but with a white sclera & he retains his eyebrow & eyelid. He'd no longer have blood poisoning or need Shimmer to keep it at bay, but it would act as a constant reminder of the truth.

Like, maybe this scar was soul deep & carried over?

Maybe as a boon, he has limited future sight to help guide him in the right direction, but only in his left eye? Not too sure about this part.

#arcane #league of legends #silco #redemption arc #jinx #powder #writing prompt #mental health

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gregrulzok · 10 months

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Silco is such an incredible character, specifically because of how fucking /human/ he is.

Even the small things. The fact that he threatens Deckard when he sees his actions as a threat, but immediately relents and even makes sure he has food to eat when he realizes he did good. The fact that he never /forces/ him to take Shimmer, merely encourages him. Ultimately it WAS Deckards choice, and I'm not saying that I'm sure Silco wouldn't have forced him, but the fact that he even tried to give him the choice to do it of his own free will speaks volumes.

Because one way or the other, he cares about the undercity. He doesn't want power, he doesn't want pride, at least initially all he wants is Respect. He wants revenge on Piltover. He wants the same things that Vi wanted, which is exactly why Vander was discouraging her. Because he saw exactly where those good intentions and extreme means could lead.

But in his struggle to avoid that conflict Vander grew complacent. He betrayed his brother and left him to die, and instead he trapped the undercity in a state of stasis. Bow your head down, live in your shitty slums, and pray that the elite will leave you alone. Vander kept everyone safe, but it was at the cost of freedom and opportunity. And Silco wasn't just angry because he was out for blood, he was angry because he was being denied a life worth living, and his PEOPLE were being denied a life worth living.

And then he sees a young girl, who he could easily have killed, crying, alone, scared. And though he was initially going in to strike, he hesitates. He asks her where her sister is, he speaks to her in calm tones.

And that's even before she tells him her sister left her behind. That's even before he realizes they have that betrayal in common. Even before he makes the decision to take her in and guide her and guard her, he still couldn't quite go through with killing an innocent, crying girl in cold blood. At least, not without talking to her first.

I don't know.

He's a piece of shit drug lord obviously, and I sure am glad he had no redemption arc or something like that, but he is SUCH a fucking human character. He's so nuanced and REAL.

I absolutely adore him.

#silco #silco arcane #vander #vander arcane #jinx #jinx arcane #jinx league of legends #arcane

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lullabyes22-blog · 4 months

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predictions for season 2?

Only a handful, tbh.

Wildest speculations: Jinx or Vi die, Silco lives, Sevika ends up head of the Undercity, time travel shenanigans, Zaundads reconcile.

Middling speculations: Firelights treehouse gets blown up, Jinx and Ekko join forces, Ambessa sinks her claws into Piltover, Viktor steals the hexcore and returns to Zaun.

Tepid speculations: Everyone 'heroic' gets a corruption arc; everyone 'evil' gets a redemption arc.

Beyond that, I'm ready to go along for the ride, so long as it's a satisfying ending c:

#arcane #arcane league of legends #asks #arcane silco #silco #arcane jinx #jinx #arcane vi #vi #arcane vander #vander #arcane ekko #ekko

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rzyraffek · 11 months

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little things that annoy me about fallout fandom :0 >:(

Arcade Gannon

YOU ALL NEED TO CALM DOWN YEAH HE IS GAY WE KNOW. look he is a great character and even better represenation! even for this day and its been 13years! please im tried of people making him little uwu boi. HE IS AN ANARCHIST SARCASTIC GUY who i love ofcourse :D but pls yall need to sit down and stop making him a femboy

Hancock

as much as i love this guy... his whole personality isnt being stoned pls make something more intresting up.

Paladin Danse

he wasnt a horrible person before BB, he never been! yall act like his morals complety changed, but only thing that changed is being a synth. litteraly he is still the same guy, with the same mindset, he just hates robots less

Deacon and Boone

their whole personality isnt "man i miss my wife" yeah as much as Boone still mensions her sometimes and he still feels horrible(vaild) Deacon whole arc isnt "omg my wife is dead yall, but im emo now" pls

Ulysses

okay decon isnt emo but you know who is? he is, the edge. theres no complain here im just reminding you all how awesome he is

Vulpes

hes a furry. also he is voiced by the same guy that voices Silco from Arcane

Butch

THIS GUY HAS ZERO REDEMPTION ARC PLEASE STOP MAKING HIM MAGICALLY A BETTER PERSON CUZ BCS LONE WAS NICE TO HIM ONCE

Charon

he is not a babygrill, he would choke anyone if he could, yes even Sole

I am open for discussion

#fallout 4 #fallout new vegas #fallout #fallout 4 hancock #fallout 3 #charon x reader #fnv ulysses #vulpes inculta #fnv boone #deacon fallout 4 #butch x reader #fnv arcade

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embershroud108 · 1 year

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I’ve been thinking more about what a potential Jinx redemption arc would look like after my latest rewatch. I got an ask about this the other day and I didn’t really give a good answer so I’m going to try to unpack it more here.

The major sticking point for me with this question has always been: how does one define “redemption” in Jinx’s case? One way to define it that I’m more or less comfortable with is that she accomplishes something that makes up for the pain she’s caused, not just to others but to herself. Or, put another way, she gets to place where she has a healthy sense of self-worth and doesn’t feel like just a curse. But for a character who has been so broken by an escalating cycle of violence and degradation, basically her entire life, as to be basically defined by that brokenness and violence, how is that possible? The lazy easy answer that always comes up in this discussion is some variation of “she dies to save X” usually Vi, or including Vi.

Leaving aside the problematic fact that, unless she dies only protecting Zaun or people in Zaun, that this would effectively endorse the Piltover side of the conflict and Vi’s collaborationist worldview (sorry Vi stans), this possibility has never sat right with me because, unless it were handled very skillfully, it would feel too cliched, contrived, and OOC. I just don’t see Jinx as a heroic self-sacrifice type of character. The “accidentally saves the day and dies Gollum-style” type of “redemption” would fit her character better, but I don’t know if we can even call that a redemption arc as such as I defined it above. Plus it would make me sad. So let’s just table the “redemption by death” scenarios. What would a redemption arc where she lives look like? After considering it for awhile I think a character arc like that would have to contain, broadly and roughly speaking, three main elements. 1. New friend(s). Jinx needs a new friend or friend group who is not tied to her past and are a positive influence on her. “Positive influence” here means someone who can help her heal from her ingrained sense of paranoid isolation and resentment that Silco cultivated in her. I think an original character or characters would work best here. The only champion character I can see realistically fulfilling this role is Ziggs. As much as I want to see a Jinx + Viktor team up I don’t think he would be a good influence on her in this capacity. 2. A Greater Threat. Jinx needs to be overshadowed by someone or something else as the main antagonist in the narrative by the final act of season 2. Maybe that’s the Machine Herald. Maybe that’s Noxians. Maybe that’s Urgot (I doubt it). Given that they planted the seeds of the first two possibilities pretty thoroughly in act 3 of s1, I think this is very likely. And this isn’t even necessarily so Jinx can help fight against this bigger threat (although that too). It’s so that the powers that be in Piltover will deprioritize her as a threat and let her live free (presumably loose in the undercity) once the story concludes.

3. Genuinely helpful. Specifically, to the people from her past that she cares about (so basically Vi and Ekko). And just as importantly those people have to want and even need her help. For instance, I absolutely love the theory that Ekko will seek out Jinx’s help when the enforcers invade and occupy the undercity. But I also think that this help needs to come, at least partially, in a non-violent form. Since a big theme in season 1 is that violence creates more problems than it solves, and this is especially true in Jinx’s arc, I think she needs a key moment where she can be helpful without using violence. Maybe she tips Vi and Caitlyn off with a critical piece of information or clue. Maybe she builds a device (that isn’t a weapon) that plays a pivotal (genuinely helpful) role. Something along those lines.

#arcane #jinx #speculation

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ravenkinnie · 9 months

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i think jinx still has the inner ambition inside to destroy piltover. its already implanted in her by both vi and silco, just in their own words (1. "one day, this city will respect us" 2. "we'll show them. we'll show them all). even when vi joins the enforcers, i think jinx will see vi as blinded by caitlyn and it'll futher fuel her piltover bloodthirst, out of hatred but also thinking that she will win vi back again if she makes her childhood vow to make piltover 'respect' zaun come true.

there is this one post that explains how in jinx's mind, there are forces more powerful than love and that is ambitions/ideals/dreams/etc. people can abandon their loved ones for a dream or an ideal and jinx internalized this first from her parents who could've been alive if only they chose to stay with their daughters but left them for war.

i think jinx believes vi will abandon cait no matter how much she loves her if only jinx achieves what she believes vi still desires since childhood.

and if anyone told jinx that vi may no longer has the same ambition anymore, she'll turn a blind ear and spit. because the shared dream she has with vi they vowed together on the rooftop is the one last link she shares with her sister that she's got left.

(also yes jinx at the end symbolically severs her ties with vi but lets be real she is still very much emotionally attached to her sister bcs jinx is doomed to always want what she cant have)

I do think her main drive will be to cause chaos and wreckage, whether as an emotional response or some delusional form of commemoration. I do think that this feels like an incomplete motivation though like the centre of her character HAS shifted, she's not searching for acceptance anymore and there's no one she would be seeking it out from, this aspect of her relationship with vi has already been severed and if they went back on it it would just feel redundant from a storytelling perspective. I don't think she will want to 'win vi back' or sth like that has already been the story, her desire for reconciliation and now that desire has been replaced by belief that its not possible

it's clear that it makes sense that jinxs drive will shift in the second season but what exactly it will shift to is very up in the air, like I personally don't like what you laid out here because I think that's an extremely weak drive for her character that would just keep repeating over and over themes that were already laid out and engaged with and now after a turnover of the finale it should instead push it in a new direction instead of going over the same things. christian linke said about s2 even that now that they laid out who these characters are they can start dismantling it and THATS so interesting to me, to think about how jinxs character can be dismantled

my ideal for jinx is to become a more calculated terrorist HDHDHDH she is an extremely emotionally reactive person, she internalised ideals from vi or vander or silco (probs not her parents, I think she was too young to know them like that, as people more than caregivers and what she knows of them is probably what has been passed on from vi. but in a way this id secondhand grief and their experiences of parental loss are completely different but thats a whole other thing) but it's clear these are completely secondary to her inner emotional reality - using her weapon against piltover wasn't even the main point of the dinner spectacle, her confusion about the emotional bonds in her life was. she clearly did not have a larger goal in mind for the outcome of it and she would have ran off with vi and said fuck all yall zaunites if she believed it meant vi would be forever tied to her unconditionally - but she didn't. I think moving from purely emotional landscape of her actions and motivations to one motivated by more overarching goals or beliefs too is a realistic goal and also goes beyond a mid redemption arc or going in circles over the same relationship dynamics - and it means jinx could become an actually potentially dangerous and powerful player in the power vacuum of zaun beyond just her penchant for violence - and it doesn't mean those ties she started to sever at the end of s1 are completely done because they will be running in circles in some way but if you want it to be narratively satisfying she can't be going over the same things the whole season so there will have to be progress there somewhere and I think it will end up somewhere halfway between estrangement and dependency. they will never be free from each other but they will have their own stories running parallel. I think how little jinx actually cares about the ideals she's been surrounded by will be a part of that dismantling, the reality of what a volatile substance in zauns ecosystem she is but also maybe how what she internalised more than beliefs is the notion of power

(alternatively, vi can say fuck it and let being attached to jinx forever ruin her and that's sexy too but I just don't think arcane is a story that would choose this but remember!! tragedy is always a great narrative)

#asks #arcane #jinx

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melmedarda · 7 months

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Why do you find Marcus and Sevika interesting?

i've just answered the one about sevika, so let's talk alittle on marcus.

as a person, i hate him. truly i do mostly because he lacks spine (thinking about the scene where he imagines pulling the trigger with silco across from him). but i cannot help but feel sooo intrigued by his brain. how did he get to the conclusion that he wasn't going to get screwed over by silco? did he think he was smarter than him? ridiculous, truly. but at the same time, i pity him.

he wants so much to be like grayson, to make things work the same way she did. but he isn't ready when she dies. and vander, the only one who might consider working with him, dies too. all that's left is silco, and he's not one for peace, not like vander was. so yeah, he's been given a bad hand, but he plays it so horribly that he becomes nothing more than a puppet. marcus' ascension into the office of sheriff was doomed from the start.

but there is good in him, despite. and then his daughter, his dearest thing. his motivation and his achilles heel. he's a great father, right up there with tobias, in my book. he does it all for her, i think. tries to find a balance so she won't grow up lacking, won't grow up in an unsafe city. so when he finally decides to put his foot down, its after silco visited his daughter. by the time he's gears up to fight, its already too late and on top of that, he's fighting the wrong person. he dies a matyr's death i think, for his daughter and a city he had only begun to truly protect.

i pity him, because he died just when his redemption arc was within his reach.

#his arc is painfully realistic #and to me he fits into the theme of arcane fathers #he goes to great lengths for his daughter though he might be unsavory in every other aspect of his life #and he ends up dying trying to protect his daughter #marcus arcane

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valorianknights · 1 year

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Momakase: She's a problem and we all know it.

Obake: ...

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Obake: What happened?

Trina: She already told you.

Obake: I want to hear it from you.

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Obake: Why don't you take some time off. Focus on your gadgetry.

Trina: I don't need time off.

Obake: Take it anyway.

--2nd page--

Obake: Is there anything more undoing than a daughter?

Trina: *Silent angry tears*

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I was inspired by Arcane and I did say I was rewriting my BH6 Wattpad fic.

I can see Obake and Trina as Silco and Jinx in terms of dynamics. It's interesting to think that if Bh6 the series was better written it would have been very interesting. I love spending time with the antagonists and learning their perspectives and motivations and their psychology.

I would've loved to see more of these two and a Trina redemption arc... Oh well. Fanfiction, here I come!

#bh6 trina #bh6 obake #big hero 6 the series #big hero 6 #bh6 momakase #hiro hamada #Inspired by Arcane #trina aken #Obake #Why not?#redemption arc #Cool villains and stuff #my art

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acephysicskarkat · 7 months

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Re: Catradora. One could also make a whole separate rant about how a big component of ATLA’s success is how it never stops reminding the audience of the consequences ordinary people face because of the Fire Nation’s actions (see also: “Arcane” taking time to show the human cost of Silco’s experiments with Shimmer or “Wendell and Wild” making us very aware of the human cost of the Klaxons’ machinations or “Centaurworld” showing the real damage caused by the Nowhere King’s war on both realms or “The Owl House” showing how much Belos’ misrule has screwed everything up)…SPOP just doesn’t care at all about the ordinary people of Etheria.

This is accurate, but I'd say you're aiming a little low - SP0P's war doesn't feel like it has consequences because Etheria has very little worldbuilding texture. Everywhere in the ATLA setting feels like a real place that people live and have careers and families. Nowhere in Etheria does. We don't know what the food is like in Plumeria, Dryl has a population of like five people onscreen, Salineas has a large population for the mid-S4 two-parter that is barely hinted at before it and barely exists afterwards, etc.

And that can kind of work if your story is very focused on personal interactions and growth, but [looks at C*tra's third of a redemption arc] fucking lol

#spopcrit

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literaryspinster · 9 months

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I want Viktor to become a leader

I know he’s probably going to go somewhat dark in the next season (he’s already kind of started), but I’m hoping for a redemption arc that ultimately leads to him becoming a leader of Zaun, perhaps along with Ekko but I think I’d rather see Ekko continue to do his own thing, as I don’t want him corrupted.

I specifically want to see Viktor be a good leader who doesn’t hurt and exploit his people the way Silco did. I know with the nature of this show (and what I’ve heard of the game), it will be WAY more complicated than that. But I hope that’s where he ultimately ends up.

#viktor arcane #arcane #arcane league of legends

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starryeyed-spacegirl · 7 days

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Chapter 40 of As We Fall, "Are You Gonna Kiss Me or Not?" Is Posted!

This is my most gushy chapter yet, and it's just what I needed. Hope it gives you what you need too!

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caffeinatedtypo · 2 years

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*arcane spoilers below*

I refuse to believe that Silco is dead. Like, his character had so much potential, it would be tragic to not see him either

a) gradually soften over the course of Season 2 and reconcile his current ruthlessness with the vulnerability of the drowned man that came out as he was raising Jinx, ultimately undergoing a redemption arc and becoming an ally/anti-hero to the people of the undercity

or b) go absolutely feral and be a total menace to society at large

#silco #arcane #arcane league of legends #jinx #silcooooooooo i love you #this skinny rat man owns my soul

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nona-la-nona · 2 years

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Viktor in the browser game really be like:

a Jinx redemption arc stan.

actively calls the Undercity Zaun, implying he’s aware of the movement to make the Undercity independent.

reminds the player to have empathy for people in the Undercity who suffer from Silco’s rule.

“Hello, inter-dimensional traveler, let me help you up-”

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lullabyes22-blog · 1 year

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Lullabyes, are you familiar with SoC's Kaz Brekker or Tommy Shelby from Peaky Blinders? If so, do you think they're similar to Silco?

:|a

I read SoC a long time ago, tbh, and lost interest midway. I'd heard good things about the book, but I think I was a bit too old for YA fantasy by that juncture, so it felt very predictable to me.

Same for Peaky Blinders, which I watched until S3, then kinda gave up on. (The show does its female characters so dirty.) By the end, I was only watching for Cillian's pretty face...

Yeah, one might say there are superficial similarities between Kaz, Tommy and Silco - in that the creators are clearly going for that whole INTJ crime boss trope, with shades of Chessmaster and Magnificent Bastard thrown in. This in itself isn't an original concept - and one might argue all of them borrow from Michael in The Godfather (film, not book, as the black/white and good/evil dichotomy of man is explored very effectively through its cinematography.)

iirc though, Kaz is motivated by payback but is being coaxed to do good as part of a redemption arc. And Tommy is pretty much already a dead man walking after surviving WWI. Contrast with Silco, who isn't a dead man but a monster reborn, and whose redemption isn't about abandoning revenge (heck, after he dies, his child goes and fulfills that wish for him), but about learning to access the man inside said monster - and the love he is still capable of feeling despite past betrayal.

That said, a death-match between those three characters would be hilariously fun to watch c:

#asks #arcane league of legends #arcane #arcane silco #silco #six of crows #socs #Kaz brekker #peaky blinders #tommy shelby

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