Episode 2 - "Between Friends (The Treasure Of Zeus - Part 2)"
Hercules walks up, remarking to Iolaus that he 'finally found someone who doesn't know all [his] special moves'.
This gets no response as 'Nysus', Jase and Io stand together.
Herc asks Iolaus what his problem is, and Io says he's not the one keeping secrets from his friends. Jason then asks Hercules why he never told them the chalice they were risking their lives to steal belonged to Hera. Hercules knows he's in the wrong and eventually apologizes.
I really liked how direct Jason was about the issue, and how snarky Io was. Iolaus was willing to listen, and he didn't say anything totally uncalled for, but you could tell he was hurt by the deception. I wonder if Hercules (a demigod) doesn't really understand how much harder it is for someone like Iolaus (a mortal) to keep up with him when he's messing with god stuff, or that Io is always sort of inherently in more danger, and thus not telling him the whole story prevents him from making an informed decision. (Although I think, based on what we saw in the episode prior, Herc would argue he never asked them to come, and Io and Jason would probably have followed Herc regardless because they're his friends.)
Also can we talk about how Herc walked up to the whole group specifically talking to Iolaus, and when he was confused by the silence, again directly addressed Iolaus? Like, he looks between the three of them when waving, but says "Iolaus?". Besties.
And finally I was once again somewhat distracted by Joel in this scene. Obviously Strife is pleased his plan is working, but I love the approving looks he gives Io while they complain to Herc.
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DFP Actors August: Joel Tobeck
NZ actors tend to end up in a lot of the same shows over the years it seems. I have a lot of fun spotting familiar faces, so I thought this would be a fun and silly little project, seeing which actors have repeatedly been in things that Deano was also in (not necessarily alongside). Just a bit of trivia. Enjoy!
Hercules: The Legendary Journeys
(1995-1998/1996-1999)
Dean played a few different characters on this show:
Iloran - S1E12 "The Gauntlet"
Young Iolaus - S4E3 "Regrets... I've Had a Few", S4E11 "Medea Culpa" and S4E20 "Twilight".
Ruun - S4E7 "Prodigal Sister"
Interestingly, Dean played that 'Ruun' character (not pictured) randomly between other season 4 episodes where he appears as Young Iolaus, and he really doesn't look very different from when he's playing Iolaus, so I feel like even casual watchers would have easily recognized him. At least his season 1 character, Iloran, looks very different with his neck beard and shorter hair. Ruun just looks like Iolaus got some scars.
Joel played a few characters as well:
King Boreas - S2E18 "Promises"
Strife - 6 episodes between S3E13 and S4E15
David Scott Pollison, office production assistant - S4E15 "Yes, Virginia, There is a Hercules"
Deimos - S5E20 "Fade Out" and S6E2 "Love, Amazon Style"
Xena: Warrior Princess (1996-2000/2000-2001)
Dean played two roles:
Homer/Orion - S1E13 "Athens City Academy of the Performing Bards"
Wiglaf - S6E9 "Return of the Valkyrie"
Joel also played two roles:
Deimos - S5E22 "Motherhood"
Lucifer - S6E13 "You Are There"
It may be worth noting that Deimos is a character that also appeared on Hercules: The Legendary Journeys and yet his name is spelled incorrectly in the credits for his appearance on Xena, so he's credited as "Demios" instead of "Deimos" which meant that I spent a stupid amount of time trying to figure out if it actually was the same character or not because I don't have that season of HTLJ and had to go digging on fan wikis. Bless the fans.
Shortland Street (1996/1996, 2015-2016)
Dean played Nurse Harry Martin in 1996 (per IMDB).
Joel played Craig Develter in 1996, and then Jimmy Isaac in 2015-2016.
The Chosen (1998)
I can't find a copy of this anywhere.
I did find a trailer for it but I didn't recognize anyone in the clips they used.
Dean plays Andrew Scott.
Joel plays Trevor O'Connor.
Young Hercules (1998-1999)
Dean plays Iolaus, the sidekick/bff to Hercules, throughout the series. He is credited for 46 of the 50 episodes (I haven't finished it yet at the time of prepping this post - what's with the other 4 episodes?? Unacceptable lmao.)
Joel plays Strife (aka 'Nysus Gaius') - a henchman to the antagonist Ares - and is credited in 12 episodes (I think some is flashbacks).
I love both of their characters so much, omg. Joel totally stole my heart being a goofball in this role, and Dean is a dreamboat as well as hilarious. I have such a soft spot for weird/funny sidekick characters, ugh.
Westside (2016-2017/2015-2016)
Dean plays Evan Lace in 9 episodes, S2E2-S3E3.
Joel plays Des McEwen in 8 episodes, S1E4-S2E10.
Hillary (2016)
Dean plays George Lowe (in all 6 episodes). And he's lovely.
Joel plays Bunny Fuchs in (episodes 4 and 5). He's not as lovely but Joel looks great.
The Brokenwood Mysteries (2018/2022)
Dean is in S5E4 "The Dark Angel" as Barnaby Buchanan.
Joel is in S8E1 "From the Cradle to the Grave" as Bobby.
Joel's episode only just came out in July! I had this post all queued up without this included, and then happened to see him in a BTS shot Fern Sutherland shared on her IG story and was like "IS THAT JOEL!?!?" and had to edit this post to include his Brokenwood appearance. ♥
One Lane Bridge (2020/2020-2021)
Dean plays Andrew "Grub" Ryder, and is credited for the first 6 episodes, S1E1-S1E6.
Joel plays Stephen Tremaine, and is credited for the first 11 episodes, S1E1-S2E5.
This show looks real sad.
And that's what I got for these two - do you know of anything I missed?
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Episode 2 - "Between Friends (The Treasure Of Zeus - Part 2)"
Cheiron announces to the cadets that they need to pair up for drills, and learn to fight back-to-back, relying on their comrade.
Hercules suggests they talk about their problem later and asks Iolaus to be his partner, but Io says he's not sure he can trust him. Jason then also walks off (presumably to partner with Io?).
Look at Strife being all proud of himself! He split up the gang!
(Joel Tobeck my beloved.)
I felt so bad for bb Herc here, offering his arm as an olive branch, and being rejected by Iolaus. But I think it was really good of Iolaus to make it clear how he felt and let Hercules deal with the consequence. I think Hercules sort of trying to brush it all off might have made Iolaus think he wasn't taking it very seriously, so this is a good reminder of how trust, once broken, isn't always easy to repair.
That said, I feel like Io and Jason are annoyed with Herc, but not like they don't ever want to be friends with him again or anything.
Do you think Strife can influence emotions? Is him standing so close to Iolaus an indication that he's nudging Io to be more irritated with Herc? Or is it all to do with the conversations they had? Hmm. I genuinely don't know enough about Strife's abilities right now to know either way.
Ryan Gosling, perhaps because he really was just so young at the time, is really great at selling that sad puppy look when Herc is feeling guilty or hurt, and it always makes me want to reassure him.
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