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b0ylik3r · 4 hours
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b0ylik3r · 18 hours
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PAT HIM PLEASE PLEASE PAT HIM HE DESERVES IT SO MUCH PLEASE DONT KILL HIM
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b0ylik3r · 18 hours
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I dont wanna get myself involved in any more ZADR discourse, but I also don't want misinfo to spread around and people to get discouraged or anything like I had been for a while. So I'm going to say this: Zim in Invader Zim is most likely a child.
There are a plethora of reasons I think this, but if you don't care then scroll. I'm going to provide my reasoning under the cut.
My first reason is that from a writing standpoint, there is absolutely nothing appealing about the dynamic between Dib and Zim if Zim is an adult. What would or do you find enjoyment out of their dynamic if they are not meant to be foils of one another like the show HEAVILY implies them to be NUMEROUS TIMES? If Zim is a child, their dynamic becomes "2 children want parental approval and go against each other for it, when in reality the approval and love they seek is unattainable because the parental figures will never give them it. They would be better off being friends or allies, but instead keep fighting to be loved because they're dumb kids and don't realize that it's fruitless and dumb". If Zim is an adult, their dynamic becomes "Immature man cannot beat child". What is to be enjoyed or explored there?
My second reason is that Zim acts like a child in a multitude of different ways. His interactions with The Tallest, his general immaturity, and even how he surrounds himself. He goes to school. He has made himself robot parents to support that idea. He needs different disguises to act like an adult. Again, from a writing standpoint, if he was an adult infiltrating a school building and pretending to be a kid, that's just fucking weird. I don't think Jhonen is that type of person. I don't think the writers are that type of people.
Also on this subject is the episode Tak: The Hideous New Girl. At the point of the episode, Zim was trying to impress and "crush on" and be the boyfriend of this middle school girl. It doesn't matter if Tak was actually irken. It doesn't matter if she is the same age as him actually. It doesn't change that Zim was trying to get into a human relationship with what he thought was a middle school girl. If he is an adult, that's pretty fucking weird. Again, I don't think Jhonen is that type of person and I don't think the writers are that type of people.
The "flying ships before you were born" only proves that on Irk, he was an adult or at least the age that would permit him to fly ships. Calendars are manmade, why would irkens use the same years? Zim's age could also easily translate into human years into the late tween years. We also have to think logically about things.
Also, I sometimes feel like people are forgetting that Irk is a dystopian society. They are a hyper-militarized alien race that codes people's brains on the daily and does not wait for the children to grow up even a little before they start military training (or, at least training for military training). What morals prevent them from using child labor or child soldiers? We also have to remember that in accordance to The Trial, Zim was a smeet or older allowed into violent chemicals and resources that can kill, like it did Tallest Miyuki and Tallest Spork. That, in a way, proves that Irkens are not above dangerous child labor.
One other argument I have is that in Enter The Florpus, during the species change clip, Zim, Dib and Gaz switch species. The thing is, Dib and Gaz look the same as Zim in this clip. They don't become little smeets, they don't become tiny kids. They become Zim's age. Zim also does not become an old man in this clip. He stays the same as Dib and Gaz. Being that these are their canon human/irken translations, I don't see how someone could still defend this.
You could take all of this and say "Okay, but ZADR is still proship because they are abusive to each other so why are you so pressed". But like I said in a previous post, there is a major difference between "haha 2 people fight each other n get hurt haha" and "this adult man is grooming this child sexually". That's not funny. That isn't cartoony. That is a fully serious topic taken seriously in every single media that it is represented in. Cartoony unserious fighting has been a staple for years in animation and media. Grooming is not cartoony. That is why so many people have a problem with it. Some people don't enjoy shipping things that are seriously fucked up in the real world like that, or shipping proships.
This all started because of one singular tweet Jhonen made that you all believed. I bet if he tweeted "guys invader zim didnt actually happen and dib was hallucinating the whole time, lmao dream theory is canon", some of you would believe it.
I leave you off with this: "If it looks, sounds & acts like a kid, it's a kid, no matter if it's actually 1000 years old or not."
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b0ylik3r · 19 hours
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me: if I become the evil overlord I will never harm my minions
[5 years later]
highly throwable imp: hoohoohee
me: hmm
#rb
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b0ylik3r · 1 day
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hey guys new diagnosis just dropped: EVIL AUTISM
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hi sorry if this is random but I love ur pfp sm <3
AWWWW TYYYYY!!! its a screenshot from ETF but zim looks just so :< in it and i love it sm i HAD to make it my pfp :3
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b0ylik3r · 2 days
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ZaDr isn't a pr*ship, Zim is a child and is referred to as a child in the show Bible itself and in cannon is never implied to be an adult even jhonen ship's zagr which would have implied Zim is the same age as Dib and Gaz, also Tak, Tak was your love interest character for Zim and Dib which if would mean Zim and Dib are similar if not the same age
THIS.
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b0ylik3r · 2 days
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I promise u that not every ZADR shipper is a proshipper. I'm a biiigbigbig ZADR weeb & I don't see it as a proship. And I'm not a proshipper. Ur valid here
THANK YOU FOR THIS. ive been seeing a LOT of proshippers on the zadr tag in the last few days and it felt so weird to be so into something so many proshippers claimed as their own. sometimes you just need someone whos like "hey! hello! i dont like gross stuff either!", tysm i appreciate it
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b0ylik3r · 3 days
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I just think they would be such a cute couple:3
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b0ylik3r · 3 days
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LITERALLY. ZIM AND DIB ARE THE SAME AGE????? IT'S NOT PROSHIP????????? and all the other stuff is cartoon violence that nobody cares about unless they're doing a hyper realistic fanfiction about the effects of it and even then it would NOT be zadr. there's a HUGE difference between cartoon violence and "this guy is 20 nd grooming this 6 year old". thats not funny. thats not cartoony. that's just proship. that's the difference between people who like zadr and proshippers.
do you guys ever just have a moment where you realize that "oh. oh that ship im obsessed with. everyone else who ships it is a proshipper. they're all proshippers and think the ship that i like that is not a proship is a proship". because i just had that now.
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b0ylik3r · 3 days
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do you guys ever just have a moment where you realize that "oh. oh that ship im obsessed with. everyone else who ships it is a proshipper. they're all proshippers and think the ship that i like that is not a proship is a proship". because i just had that now.
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b0ylik3r · 3 days
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womp woooomp
oooo my first ask AND it's hate mail!!! how rare
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b0ylik3r · 3 days
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why was there a proshipper defending r*pe and age gap ships in the zadr tag
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b0ylik3r · 4 days
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i hate scene kids who wear gir stuff that haven't watched invader zim. im about to gatekeep gir from people. name the plot of 3 episodes and 5 characters NOW!!!!!!
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b0ylik3r · 6 days
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I need you to understand how tiny Zim and Dib canonically are, Dib in "vindicated" is 3'3 or 99.06cm, and zim is about an inch taller
For reference my 3 year old sister is 3'9 or 114.3cm
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b0ylik3r · 6 days
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The space on the top of an Irken's head between their antennae is for kisses.
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b0ylik3r · 7 days
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Watching the unfinished episodes of invader Zim and over thinking is realizing how fucked up Irkens are and that Zim is just a little kid
Then you realize that these are just ugly cartoon blorbos in a show that's not meant to be sad
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