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mogai-sunflowers · 1 year

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there are many, many things wrong with queer discourse- it’s ahistorical, revisionist, pointless, very often racist (specifically anti-Black), completely English-centered, etc. etc. and all of those are things that absolutely are important and should be discussed more.

but one thing I’ve never seen mentioned or really discussed at all is how completely cissexist it is. the whole idea that ‘dyke’ is only ever associated with lesbian identity ignores how it is very commonly also aimed at trans people who were AFAB or CAFAB. the whole idea that ‘fag’ is only ever associated with gay men ignores all the AMAB/CAMAB trans people who have had that word thrown at them all their lives.

transmasculinity is very often the target of lesbophobia. lesbophobia is centered on misogynistic ideals of defining womanhood around perfect gender conformity performed for cis men. the same queerphobes who view lesbians as deviating from womanhood, view trans men, transmascs, and nonbinary people who were AFAB as women who are “wrong”. A bigot doesn’t know the difference between a butch and a trans man who doesn’t pass as cis. all they see is a deviance from the ideal of womanhood. sexuality and gender are inherently linked in normative definitions of the two- a cis lesbian often has similar experiences to a trans man. they are not the same, but the world sees them the same.

trans women who don’t pass as cis are very often perceived as gay men. the world views trans femmes the same way they view gay men: as “perversions” of manhood. Gay manhood is viewed as inherently less “manly”, and trans women are viewed as just “men in dresses” and there are links between these strains of queerphobia for a reason- because yet again, bigots don’t care how you personally identify- if they see a trans woman who doesn’t pass as cis, they will judge her the same way they judge a feminine gay man, and will use the same word, fag, to describe her.

the other day, I saw someone say “when has a femme woman ever been called fag?” because they genuinely didn’t believe femme women could say ‘fag’, and while that’s not true even for cis women, I saw that and just had to really sit back because as well meaning as this person was, it was clear trans people never even crossed their mind. trans femmes get called fag all the time. transmascs get called dyke all the time. that’s why this whole discourse over who can and can’t say fag or dyke within the queer community is always painfully cisnormative. trans identity is not some separate entity from gay identity. yeah, gay men both cis and trans can be lesbiphobic, gay women both cis and trans can hold prejudice against gay men, and cis queer people can be transphobic. but we all have much more in common than we think and it’s really time more people started acknowledging that.

and of course as always, race plays a pivotal part in this but I am not qualified to speak on that but I welcome additions from POC on how race plays a factor in this discussion.

#🌌when the stars align ; reigns rambles🌌#tw discourse #discourse tw #queer discourse #tw f slur #f slur tw #f slur #f slur reclaimed #d slur #tw d slur #d slur tw #d slur reclaimed #queer #queer community #trans #trans community

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harrypotterfuryroad · 1 year

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hello there

i was scrolling through your posts and i came to the realization that you have an acute distaste for trans people

if you don't mind me asking, why is that?

correct me if i'm wrong, but if the point of feminism is fighting against the patriarchy and reaching gender equality, what is discrimination against trans people supposed to do? how does it support feminism?

from my point of view, it doesn't. hell, i think stuff like j.k. rowling supporting matt walsh is actually bad for feminism. praising right-wing extremists doesn't equate to gender equality in my eyes. it feels more like the opposite.

ok this is a quibble before i get to the main points but jk rowling does not support matt walsh and the fact that you think that suggests that you’re getting your information secondhand without fact checking. it’s a small thing but it gets at a lot of the intellectual dishonesty surrounding the way the gc perspective is framed by others

like, are you saying this looks like support?

or this?

or maybe you’re talking about this one

this one is closer to support, but it’s still unequivocally critical of him. people probably just failed to notice that because it wasn’t a firehose of death threats. she’s allowed to agree with parts of his content without agreeing with his overall message (that’s called nuance - disagreeing with all his content because she disagreed with his overall message would be called reactionary (which is kinda what you’re doing here even if you didn’t intend to)). either way next time you try something like that make sure you’ve done your reading

anyway “acute distaste for trans people” is one way of putting it i guess, but i have an acute distaste for any movement systematically attempting to roll back women’s rights and gay rights. i’m not victimizing or targeting trans people, i’m just not treating them as fundamentally different from anyone else doing the same thing. i talk plenty about shitty men and shitty religious groups, i just tend to save that for my main blog because for some reason it’s ok to complain about men behaving poorly until they put a wig on. there’s even still plenty of that on this blog, just look at the post that i’m guessing sent you my way

so the next thing is whether feminism is about equality. even if it was, people are so hesitant anymore to even admit that systemic misogyny exists (obv on the right but this has been a growing problem with the left for years, guess why) that equality-focused feminist activism has trouble getting traction. liberation is the more useful way to frame it - equality still frames every advance for women in relation to men. that’s the same rhetorical trick you were trying, intentionally or not, by attempting to frame everything i’m saying as discriminatory towards trans people instead of acknowledging that i’m pointing out harmful things baked into the foundations of the ideology. and yeah feminism is about fighting the patriarchy, sure, but how does believing anything a man says accomplish that? if you believe that men can stop benefiting from male privilege by declaring themselves women then you don’t believe in male privilege, and therefore there’s no patriarchy to fight, so where does that leave you

anyway keep poking around, once you zoom out and look at the bigger picture and realize that the people you think you’re supposed to disagree with might not actually disagree with you, things will start to open up

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catgirlforeskin · 2 years

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So have you seen the latest nonsense the cishets have cooked up? Apparently they say being an AFAB trans woman is a thing now because apparently a cis woman wanting a penis is the same thing as trans women wanting to transition and we're not allowed to say anything about it.

I think trans people as a group should have had our Rachel Dolezal moment years ago because I feel like stuff like this actually does do harm as it hurts our ability to function as a political block because everything we say has to be filtered through like 10 steps of threat modelling and clarifications before we've even gotten to like idk what we're supposed to be fighting for? Like imagine a crowd chanting "not that we're saying it's a requirement to be valid or that dysphoria makes you trans, or that those that don't want to aren't trans but we think trans healthcare is a human right for those that think they need it to validate their gender" it sounds crazy but could you imagine what would happen if we tried to demand pointed concise legal protections and solutions? Like we'd be destroyed by "our own community" long before anyone else :/

Idk maybe I'm doomering or wrong here but still it feels shit, and it feels like I'm going crazy because seeing people who claim to be trans (because let's be real who's going to stop them) not only jam discussions surrounding some of our most important issues but be praised for it, like I legit saw people advocating for HRT to be considered a secondary treatment and that therapy should be the first thing trans people are put through and get praised for it despite the fact that they litterally just re invented conversion therapy but in a woke way.

Idk am I wrong? Am I losing the plot here? Idk anymore.

yeah it’s always annoying seeing like, afab non-binary people go “I’m a trans woman, I’m trans and a woman :)” or the even worse version with transmascs of “I’m not tme, I’m affected by transphobia and misogyny, therefore I’m a target of transmisogyny too :)”

At the end of the day, like, what other queer people call themselves in their personal lives is their own business, even if it’s something I personally disapprove of, and if there was a huge contingent of cis women who wanted penises but in a girl way instead of a transmasc way that would honestly rule and be swag as hell

BUT the tme people who try to claim transfemininity for themselves usually do it as a political sleight of hand to absolve themselves of any possible culpability in transmisogyny, because if it affects ALL trans people, then they don’t have to listen to trans women when we bring up the real harm being done by shit like, say, participating in harassment callouts exclusively targeting trans women

#asks

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lizardywizard · 1 year

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Reading about potential bans on drag shows and realising that, as a transmasc in this era, I’ve been living with a privilege I didn’t know I had.

I always say that I didn’t really have much gender dysphoria until I went to college and had my first experiences of feeling truly Perceived. In truth, it started before then: I was saddened when the neighbourhood kids began to separate into gendered friend groups. I didn’t like my name, and I didn’t want to grow up to have boobs. But until I really started getting those boobs, and being Noticed for them, I never felt like I needed to change anything about my body in order to live as myself.

A big part of that, I realise now, was that I was allowed to dress in a way that I found gender-affirming. Growing up as a kid in the UK in the 80s, it wasn’t shocking if an AFAB person wore trousers or shorts; it was seen as progressive and feminist, and while my neighbours might not have been the most progressive folks, I had a mother who encouraged it. I stopped wearing dresses around 5, at my own insistence, and though she was sad because she found them cute and enjoyed making them, my mother never made me wear them again. I’ve travelled in multiple countries with varying amounts of queermisia, and no one has once commented to me along the lines of, “Why don’t you wear dresses and skirts? Isn’t that a bit, y’know? Weird?”

An AMAB kid who doesn’t want to dress masculine, though? Unless that kid socially transitions to female and is fully embraced as a girl by their community, they have so few outlets. I hear all the time about kids and teens sneaking their mother’s or sister’s clothes, petrified of being caught. Or cherishing that one year where they got to wear a princess dress for Halloween when they were 5, or dress up in a boa and put rouge on their cheeks. How rare and precious and secretly cherished those times were to them, because it was impossible, unthinkable, to just want to wear dresses.

It’s an experience that’s alien to me as a transmasc, but at the same time chills me to the bone, because what if? It wasn’t always like that for AFAB people either; go back a few decades before my birth and, yeah, people did look at a woman in a trouser suit funny. If US society does go full fucking Gilead on us, I’m outsies, because there’s a lot of trans stuff that isn’t a need for me but I know if I was forced to dress like a tradwife I’d absolutely snap. I would go feral. There aren’t a lot of things I complained about in my childhood, so the fact that I made very clear very young that I wasn’t going to dress feminine.

But here’s the thing: transfems and GNC AMAB people are already having that experience. It’s not “women in suits” these laws are targeting, it’s “men in dresses”. A visibly AFAB person wearing masculine clothing is a “go-getter”; a visibly AMAB person wearing feminine clothing is a “pervert”. My society’s stereotypes, not mine. That’s a lot of shame that is already dumped on those kids from birth, and if we don’t fight it, it’s only going to get worse.

Personally, as a transmasc? I suggest utilising that difference for the greater good. There are plenty of people who will throw a fuss about “men in dresses” but aren’t going to want to give up their own pantsuits. If laws like this ever pass, we need to flagrantly break them, in order to take the whole farce to court and get it shown up for the regressive conservative hateboner it is.

#transmisia #dragmisia #queermisia

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thefloatingstone · 10 months

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I left a comment about this, but you dedicated a fair chunk of the Velma video/videos discussing the “cable TV” line but I think you misunderstood what it was being stupid about. It wasn’t talking about “serious” as in “taking the subject matter seriously”, it’s a shot at shows like South Park. The “serious” at play the line is discussing is when shows present a truly held belief in an absurdist way in order for it to not be rejected. I cite South Park first and foremost because I’m old enough to have watched how the 4chan ironic bigotry thing evolved directly out of South Park love. Like, the entire “says something bigoted they believe, calls it just a joke” cycle was codified and made into a formulated concept by South Park.

However, I think the best example is the trans episode of Family Guy. At the end, Brian finds out he slept with a post-op trans woman. He and Stewie proceed to vomit for way, way, way longer than you’d expect a show to continue that going. Later, Seth McFarlane would defend the scene, saying that that is how he would react if he were in Brian’s position. So the joke was never that Brian is ridiculously transphobic while claiming to be left wing, which would be a good joke, the joke was that cishet men are disgusted by trans women regardless of other politics. That is what the line is trying to talk about. While also being ANOTHER thing the show does constantly, because the show is terrible. Like, if this somehow came across as defending the show, it’s not. It’s just that it’s important people know about this actual thing that is done and while your section on it was really good, I don’t think it really addressed the thing being addressed.

But yeah, the “cable television doing something funny and serious at the same time” line is about how shows will preset the writer’s bigotry as a joke where those who aren’t bigoted might laugh at the characters for being shit, presuming it to be an Always Sunny situation, while the bigots will get that the joke is at the expense of the group targeted and not the people targeting them. If you can think of a group people hate for no reason other than bigotry (so, like, rich people don’t count because there’s actual material reasons for that), South Park has probably done it. Think “every queer person on South Park”.

I really wouldn't give the writers of Velma enough credit to have thought about it this deeply. I think they meant it exactly the way they said it because Charlie Grandy said that every time he thought of a joke he's just add it to the script without thinking it through.

#C-Puff answers

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madtomedgar · 1 year

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grr. i get the need for clinical, neutral, inclusive language, but it’s ironic that so many people going for “clinical neutral inclusive language” around issues relating to abortion and reproductive rights/justice just wind up implying that if you’ve had your uterus or other related reproductive organs removed then none of this applies to you in a way that really feels remarkably similar to the whole “you’re not a real/whole/complete/authentic woman anymore” or “don’t count�� or are “damaged goods, so sad” attitude that mainstream cis-hetero-patriarchy adopts because it thinks that woman=incubator, which is where all these issues spring from. and idk what the solution is to it because like. yeah those issues don hit people who have functional uteruii, including cis women, trans men, and some non-binary people much, much harder than trans women, transfem nonbinary people, afab people who’ve had uterine, cervical, or ovarian cancer, or afab people who have reproductive health issues or have had their reproductive organs removed for whatever reason. but also, part of the reason that trans women, transfem nonbinary people, and all afab people who’ve had their reproductive organs removed, including cis women and trans men, are all seen as broken/worthless/bad/wrong is because we aren’t performing and can’t perform cis-hetero-patriarchy’s demands here. And like. clinical, neutral, inclusive language is important and good but sometimes i feel like it draws lines just as much as, and in the same way as, gendered language. and those lines make it harder to recognize and understand that our liberations are bound up together and none of us can get free by only focusing on ourselves.

but also if i have to see the phrase “womb-haver” used to describe people targeted by abortion bans and birth control restrictions again i’m going to lose it.

(womb isn’t even a scientific term!)

sincerely the person whose lyft driver asked me if i was planning to have kids soon on the way back from my hysterectomy post-op

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think-queer · 2 years

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“this is my first time ever doing an ask thingy so hear with me if this is awfully written or such jwhsjws

this may sound like a weird question and maybe this fall more in "we need to talk about these people" more than an actual question in itself but i need to understand just how usual it is for queer activist who are trans / n-b to also be transphobic / n-b phobic?

for bit of context though, i used to be friends / mutuals on twt with people who were all trans / n-b (though there were also others who weren't and had the same attitude) to some extent and noticed that a lot of their opinion on our issues were... highly transphobic. by that i mean they'd say they "hate" afab n-b who still call themselves women or that have links to womanhood or dress fem because "what could they even be dysphoric about" and just saying a lot of "fuck non binary people" and one of them which striked me hard said he was glad he realized he was trans binary and not non binary because "ew" which 💀 yeah i don't even have the words for that.

i remember seeing so many "takes" of theirs with lots of underlying transphobia (and ig in a way misogyny due to the fact it's always targeted to anyone afab?) and all linked to their hate towards non binary afab (most of these people also are afab which is even more worrying imo)

and the worst is that these are opinions shared by a lot of other people with a pretty "big" voice and following in the lgbt activism online (this was on the french side of it but i have seen so many people with these type of opinions and harmful rhetoric across the community)

i'm just wondering if anyone has had this experience and how the hell did we come from sharing our experiences and fighting for our rights and identity to be recognized,,,, to hating on and blaming people literally just living their life and being comfortable with themselves for being "the reason" we're not taken seriously.“ -Anonymous user

I think that a lot of, if not most, trans and non-binary have some level of internalized transphobia and enbyphobia/exorsexism just from living in a transphobic/enbyphobic/exorsexist society.

The specific hatred of non-binary people who were AFAB is something that I’ve been seeing a lot recently which I have found very concerning. The specific hatred of non-binary people who were AFAB and still have some connection to womanhood and/or femininity seems to have it’s roots in transmedicalism, it sounds basically identical to the way people would describe “transtrenders” when that was the big concern.

Something that I’ve also seen a lot of is accusations the non-binary people who were AFAB weaponize their femininity the same way cis women do. I find this very worrying because it typically ends up lumping non-binary people who were AFAB along with cis women and treating those two groups as the same. I imagine this is something that does happen at times, but it’s not something that I’ve ever seen personally. I also find it concerning that people are reducing it to a problem with AGAB, when in my experience it’s really not. The weaponization of femininity isn’t something that I only see coming from people who were AFAB, it’s something I see coming specifically from white people who are perceived as women or feminine. My experience might be affected by being from the USA, where we have a history with white womanhood being used as a weapon, so people from other cultures may see it very differently. But when people reduce it to just an “AFAB thing” it feels like an attempt to take a real issue and twisting it to attack non-binary people who don’t sufficiently perform hatred of their AGAB.

Unfortunately it feels like this is just the newest target of exclusionists and infighting. When I first joined tumblr it was asexuals who were the target, for awhile it was non-binary people as a whole... It seems like there’s always some group getting targeted in many online queer spaces. It’s really depressing to see, especially when it starts to feel like a neverending cycle. If it’s any consolation I don’t see it very often in offline queer spaces (although I have had to stay away from most of those spaces for a couple years due to health issues) In online spaces I think that there are a lot of people who find some comfort in hurting other vulnerable people, it makes them feel like they have some sort of power and control. It’s really horrible, but when I’ve been part of a targeted group I have found some comfort in trying to keep in mind that these are just people who are looking for any acceptable target. It’s really not about you, or any non-binary person who was AFAB, it’s just about finding someone socially acceptable to hurt. And you will be able to find people and groups that aren’t like that, usually the bullies are just the loudest.

I’m not sure I really made any sense here to be honest, and I’d welcome anyone with a different perspective to add on here.

#I don't have anon on for my own mental health but i will post asks anonymously upon request #TQA #enbyphobia cw #exorsexism cw #obviously don't add on if you're going to be a jerk #i hope that goes without saying

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cock-holliday · 10 months

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Sorry for the ask I’m Tumblr Stealth but re: transandrophobia, yeah. My mom hasn’t preached to me about how her precious daughter was stolen from her because I wasn’t smart enough to notice I was being brainwashed and how I’m stealing from actual men when I compete in singing competitions because I’m not actually good enough to win as a girl and how I just do this to manipulate people into thinking I’m special for people to say that trans men just don’t ever get targeted. All the above is shit that pretty much all of my other transmasc friends have also experienced. Part of why I’m stealth is because I’ve experienced sexualization specifically because of my gender since I was a preteen. It’s abysmal and made even worse by so many circles acting as if trans men get off with no problems at all and are actually super privileged

It’s so sad, I’m very sorry. Transphobia exists in different ways and there are aspects of transphobia that trans men face that are blamed on trans women, lots of transphobia is thinly veiled “the Jews are behind this”, some transphobia against trans men is misogyny, some is antimasculism. Some transphobia against trans women is misogyny, some is antimasculism.

In different circles trans women are seen as predators, in others (and sometimes the same) trans men are seen as predators. Both get accused of stealing things from women and invading women’s spaces.

Issues trans men face like reproductive healthcare issues gets 1. Ignored 2. Blamed on trans women.

Hyper-visibility is bad, erasure is bad.

There IS more focus on trans women, by conservatives and “feminist” circles, but oh is it soooo dangerous and dismissive to pretend transphobes are not painfully aware of trans men to the point that entire parts of the movement are exclusively focused on trans men. It gets seen as a “lesser” threat because it is layered with condescension and “protective” language. That doesn’t mean it isn’t violent.

It’s so so violent and then people pretend it isn’t happening. Even other trans people. It’s so fucked up. And I’m so sorry it’s hitting you like this.

I hope you are able to find circles where you can be yourself and find community.

Trans men and trans women are not opposites or enemies in this fight. Not every trans person is one or the other. There’s so many variations of us all in this battle together.

Blaming one group of trans folks for the suffering of others seeks only to drive a wedge. I hope we can recognize we are all under the lens of transphobic scrutiny and we need to come together.

Wishing you luck and safety, anon.

#ask #anon ask #transphobia

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spacelazarwolf · 1 year

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Sure sure it's "misdirected" transmisogyny if someone mistakes me for a transfem person and hate crimes me accordingly. Whatever. They're still targeting ME. I'm still the person getting hurt in that situation, because of the perp's transmisogyny.

Being transmasc doesn't make me any safer from transmisogyny, because transmasc and transfem people can look identical. You can't preach to TERFs that they "can never tell" and then in the same breath say that trans men are TME. Like, can they tell or not? Which way is it?

yeah the entire concept of tma/tme relies on being able to clock trans people, which i could have sworn we agreed was bad, especially because essentially you’re saying trans women and femmes and ppl in that sphere are always clockable as trans. it’s really fucked up and i don’t trust anyone that uses that rhetoric.

#ask avishai

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spammmies · 7 months

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cis (mostly white) women are so quick to put trans ppl in the position of the predator. like we all know how they do it to trans women, but they do it to trans men in a slightly different way.

“i hate all men, that includes u.”

i can see how that is supposed to be validating, but it comes from a very myopic view of male privilege and how it is very rarely afforded to trans men. in their mind, trans men have full access to the male privilege that cis men have, bc trans men are men right? hating trans men too is affirming, right?

yes 100%, trans men are men. but trans men are NOT cis men. to group them in with cis men is to remove their trans experience entirely. to group them in with cis men is to deny their experience with misogyny and the toll the patriarchy has taken on them. it’s to completely neglect how other marginalisations come into play (men of colour, disabled men, fat men etc) for both cis and trans men. to say trans men = cis men is to set the cis experience as the blueprint for manhood.

“but trans men can be misogynistic” yes, however it’s not the same brand as cis male misogyny. from everything i’ve seen, it functions more similarly to cis women’s misogyny. it’s a vessel of self loathing, it’s a way to distance one’s self from the perceived target of the patriarchy/oppressor (think tomboyish pick-me girls ridiculing feminine girls, and kalvin garrah stans bullying non binary and gnc ppl. surely it’s not just me and u can see there’s actually a whole fuckin lot of overlap???)

anyway, sometimes i see cis women get a Little too excited while berating their transmasculine friends/partners. yeah, they’re a man (and we’ve already touched on how their manhood is not identical to cis manhood, therefore they don’t hold that same power) but let’s not forget that you as a cis person are in a position of power here. i think a lot of these cis women forget that being a woman doesn’t absolve them of their other privileges. yes you are oppressed as a woman, but you are the oppressor as a cis person. or a white person. or rich. or what have you.

they forget they’re not the only marginalised person in the room.

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mister-rad-boy · 8 months

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same anon: yes!!! it definitely comes up most in female separatism discussions but i see posts showing or promoting or excusing a lack of empathy for osa women way too often on radblr and from very popular/beloved women on here as well and it concerns me so much. how can you claim to be a feminist when you see hate directed at the vast majority of women and you're okay with overlooking it (at best) or outright enjoy participating in it (at worst)? the absolute most i've seen them do to condemn it is saying insults like "cockrider" "cumdumpster" etc are not very nice, which comes off more to me like "hey now calm down this is bad optics you gyns :(" than actually genuinely believing it's misogynistic and that's why it's bad.

like of course """heterophobia""" is not a real thing and hets are not an oppressed group, nor are het women more """normal women""" than lesbians, and anyone who says these things is ridiculous. but there's a concerning undercurrent to a lot of the radfems on here that i feel doesn't get talked about enough and it worries me how this is literally the same thing that caused me to become disillusioned with trans activism: targeted harassment being excused and not being allowed to talk about concerns you have within the movement you want to be part of.

Yeah. The hypocrisy of radfems targeting women and calling them misogynistic names isn’t lost on me. granted I haven’t seen stuff like that too often. Maybe it’s because I just happen to follow people who don’t use that kind of language. The only time I’ve really been aware of this kind of ironic misogyny was when I’ve followed radfem discourse blogs.

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assortednarutoheadcanons · 2 years

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Naruto Sexuality Headcanons

This is pre-boruto because I don’t know anything about Boruto.

Naruto is bi.

Sasuke is demi-sexual. It’s the only way I can explain the weirdness between him and Naruto, and him ending up with Sakura.

Sakura is straight.

Sai is ace. He likes paint.

Kakashi is ace.

Kiba is bi but to an almost pansexual degree? If someone’s down, he’s down.

Shino is aromantic but not asexual. He wants kids (he teaches at the Academy for christ sake! Though that doesn’t actually make a lot of sense as the clan heir... I’ll need to deal with that later)

Hinata is bi but prefers men. She’s experimented, specifically with a lot of blonds (she has a type, good for her) but really admires and respects Naruto.

Kurenai is pan.

Shikamaru is bi but prefers women. Specifically strong, domme like women (just look at Temari. Do not tell me that she would not top him.)

Choji is bi but Does Not Care for appearance. He cares more about how they treat his teammates.

Ino is pan. She does not care about age but will draw the line at children who are under 16 (my headcanoned adult age for civilian children and when Kage are legally allowed to start the spying via sleeping with a target) but she has no problem with older men, women, or unspecified gender.

Asuma is but did experiment when he was up with the Monks of the Fire Temples. It didn’t work out but hey, it’s not like he has a long lost kid somewhere being raised by a fire priest.

Neji... I can’t really figure him out. Too serious. Probably somewhere on the ace spectrum but doesn’t really care. Probably just interested in getting through life with Rock Lee as a teammate.

Tenten is BI AS FUCK

HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT ROCK LEE’S SEXUALITY IS????? I JUST REREAD THE ENTIRE SERIES AND I DON’T GET GAY, ACE, BI, STRAIGHT OR TRANS VIBES FROM HIM!

My friend (who has never watched or read Naruto), that from a single picture, that he is somewhere on the pan/ace spectrum. I am deferring to their judgment because they are non-binary, openly bi and don’t know anything about him.

Might Guy is the same as Rock Lee. Maybe straight.

Temari is bi.

Kankuro is asexual. He likes being the fun uncle.

Gaara is very much ace but loves children. So he adopts way too many children. (He’s like Batman, with 10+ children running around that he’s not entirely sure are his but eh, doesn’t really matter at this point)

Karui is straight but was bi-curious in her youth.

Omoi is a baby. Probably bi or pan, but is full of anxiety and is not allowed anywhere near romance until he can get some anti-anxiety medication.

Not to say he can be in a relationship, but he’ll probably go nuts overanalyzing and then break up with the person in like, a month tops. Unless the person is really good, then I root for them both.

Mitarashi doesn’t care about sex or romance. She likes fire and explosions.

Ibiki is Tired. (I know it’s not a sexuality, but honestly, for this man, it should be an exception. He has to deal with the bullshit people of the T&I unit. Which is an entirely other post).

Zabuza and Haku are in a father/mentor-son/mentee relationship.

Haku was genderfluid.

Killer B doesn’t really want a family. He wants to rap.

A is bi. He has a son.

Terumi Mei is a lesbian goddess. She managed to seduce Zabuza once before he tried to kill her because they were in ANBU together. And he knew her girlfriend.

Itachi was pan.

Kisame was ace (he has a KID in Boruto????) and really likes sharks. Itachi tried to avoid all conversations like that after he first told the Akatsuki and Pein banned that kind of talk from then on.

Hidan is attracted to witchcraft.

Hashirama is straight but his wife was bi.

Madara was gay.

Obito was... yeah, no clue.

Rin was straight but tried a girl. Wasn’t her cup of tea but she doesn’t care about anyone’s sexuality.

Please, for the love of god, add more characters. I have no idea how many are on this list, but there are so many more. Feel free to add your own on.

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secretgamergirl · 2 years

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Why are people talking about “TME” people now? Do I need to learn a new thing?

I just saw someone being very confused by someone talking about the disparity between herself and someone who was TME, and I figure if I’m going to explain the term to someone, I might as well write a proper explainer.

TME stands for Transmisogyny Exempt. If something or someone horrible is targeted at trans women, and you aren’t having to deal with being in the crosshairs, that’s you being TME. Simple enough.

Seeing someone explain this to someone who then asked “As in, passing? Or as in cisgendered?” it seems there’s call to explain this in a lot more detail.

Obviously, we can’t explain what TME means without first getting into what transmisogyny is. I’m going to assume you know that transphobia is when someone hates trans people, and misogyny is when someone hates women. Transmisogyny is an additional term to cover when someone hates people who are both trans and a woman at the same time.

Now you might be thinking, “OK, so we just have an extra word to convey both of these things at once?” and you might also be asking “isn’t that redundant?” Now, while it’s true that as a trans woman, I have to deal with the full brunt of transphobia- jumping through paperwork hoops, doctors blaming broken arms on hormone levels, deadnaming, etc. on top of the full brunt of misogyny- constant threat of sexual assault, glass ceiling, mansplaining, etc.

However, on top of all that, there’s a whole pile of extra hate reserved specifically for people in that intersection- Accusing people of being “men disgusing themselves as women to do crimes/cheat at sports/StarCraft/beauty pageants/Jeopardy, the trans panic defense and the whole mythology built up around that leading to cases where a woman is raped and murdered by a guy who gets off on a defense amounting to calling her a shapeshifting succubus, the most horrific sexual harassment you’re ever going to hear, just general demonization and scapegoating, chasers, I could keep going. You can’t really comprehend just how violent, intense, and omnipresent this sort of thing is if you aren’t personally being subjected to it, which is where the Exempt part comes in.

So how is saying someone is “TME” different than just saying someone isn’t a trans woman? Well, the thing about that is, bigotry doesn’t exactly have perfect aim. You’ll notice in the quote way up top, the confused person prompting this whole explainer seems to have forgotten that any trans people exist besides women, and that’s a pretty damn prevalent thing, especially with bigots. It’s not at all uncommon to see people screaming about how much they hate trans women when, oh, someone says “pregnant people” as opposed to “pregnant women,” which is weird because as a general rule, trans women are quite happy to be called women, and also as a general rule, aren’t especially likely to have a functioning uterus. It’s absolutely better to say “pregnant people” because there’s absolutely men, non-binary people, and children who have the potential to become pregnant, and it’s good to offer them appropriate medical care, but that one’s not on us. There’s also trans men who gain notoriety for things and have bigots show up to shout about how they’ll never be women, which is I’m sure a very uplifting affirmation from people trying to insult them, and of course there’s all sorts of weird lies people tell themselves about how to spot a trans woman that don’t actually work at all.

So yeah, generally speaking, if you’re cis, it’s pretty likely you’re never going to be staring down the barrel of transmisogyny, and if you’re a trans woman but nobody in the world is aware you’re trans (which isn’t really what “passing” means, and honestly you should probably just remove that one from your vocabulary), a lot of the worst transmisogynistic stuff isn’t going to directly impact you, but also there’s plenty of women who aren’t trans, but bigots assume they are (typically because they have a queer vibe going, or just short hair, or they aren’t white, because wow, is there ever a whole thing with white supremacists claiming women of color are secretly men), and there’s also plenty of people who are trans, but aren’t women (again, see “you’ll never be a woman!” etc. or anything involving trans men in sports) which certainly isn’t helped much by hardcore bigots constantly spewing intentionally confusing garbage like referring to women as “men” if they’re trans, and on very rare occasion, vice-versa. So it’s possible for transmisogyny to have a strong impact on people who aren’t trans women now and then, and there’s situations where a particular example won’t directly impact all trans women.

The most typical cases though where it’s handy to have a quick term like TME at the ready are when you need a quick way of saying “hey, jerkface, you are speaking over people trying to explain a really serious issue that doesn’t actually affect you directly, so quit pretending otherwise, thanks.” Which, you know, is the main reason behind having any terms describing bigotry and the targets thereof. And since it’s one that typically doesn’t see a lot of use outside of situations where basically everyone present and involved is trans, there’s probably a lot going on in that situation that’s going over your head if this explainer here has been of any value to you and you might want to just duck out of that one.

Actually that may well be true even if you aren’t learning anything new from this primer, because yeah, TME is a useful acronym to have for breaking down what’s going on in certain discussions, those tend to be very very useless discussions. We’re almost certainly heading into the weeds where people say really absurd things like “trans women have a lot more privilege than other trans people because the only trans people anyone ever talks about are women and the rest of us are invisible.” That doesn’t so much work when the specific conversations in which cis people are most likely to focus exclusively on trans people who are women are those conversations where they are discussing the sorts of people they would prefer to not be alive. Not really a situation where jealousy makes a lot of sense, you know?

Anyway, that’s “TME” explained as best I can. It’s not really a term most people especially need to have in their vocabulary or one I’m personally ever really inclined to use, but hey, you still learned a thing.

#trans

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lochnessies · 3 years

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ok here’s a dissection of a post an anon sent me the link to and bc i have the worst time management possible and i completely forgot i had it lol so sorry anon here you go ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜

I am constantly thinking about how Edelgard just doesn’t seem designed to appeal to cishet men.

i hate to be the one to break this news to you op but just because a character doesn’t show skin like charlotte fire emblem doesn’t mean she isn’t designed to pander to men. she’s very much designed to pander to the (majority straight male) player base with her ‘uwu i only trust you professor omg did u see that rat? pls don’t look at my painting of you uwu’.

then there’s the whole edelgard c support in japanese where byleth makes reference to having come to her room for ‘yobi’ which is

there’s also the scene where byleth can make an unsolicited comment about edelgard’s breast size. which is… uhh… gross.

edelgard also has cipher cards that go from slightly fanserviceie to full on suggestive

and also her breast armor that my sister relentlessly mocked lol

and here’s a chart from the 3h subreddit about gender/sexually in regards to edelgard and edeleth. it’s extremely straight male. op might have just overlooked this since they probably don’t go on reddit and stay on tumblr (which unlike reddit is mostly female and has a high lgbt demographic).

Like the joke is that Bleagles is the Gay House, but everything about her feels deliberately non-hetero.

i don’t like where this is going…

She’s dressed in sharp outfits covering her upper body, with proportions that don’t seem exaggerated.

so women who cover up must be lgbt because straight women are naturally more revealing? oh y i k e s

Her poise and the way she effortlessly flourishes her axe exhibits an air of coolness. While titties out =/= character of no substance, Edelgard being dressed more modestly suggests that she wasn’t designed with male-centred fanservice in mind.

“titties don’t equal no substance but here’s my post on how she has more substance because she doesn’t show titties” ok

And she still looks absolutely stunning in her more modest attire (like seriously, I haven’t felt the need to return to cosplay in years but I want to do her academy look so bad).

yes she does. amazing design 10/10. i have a feeling this is the only part i’m going to agree with

Edelgard is intense. She does not mince her words and she is constantly evaluating you. Though she tries, she has a difficult time understanding her peers initially. Early on, she talks about how she would sacrifice herself and others in the name of some greater good. She is terrible at communicating with her peers. She has to be seen as infallible. Her heart has been hardened for years and she assumes she has to stay that way. She also assumes everyone mourns the same way she does - which is why she (kind of insensitively) insists you move on when Jeralt dies. Because to her, grief has to be channeled towards action, or else you’ll get lost in it. This attitude is demonstrated time and time again as she presses on. It can make her come off as cold and unfeeling - but look closer, and she’s anything but.

don’t really have anything to say at this part. it is pretty on the nose though i would slightly disagree with that last sentence a bit. i wouldn’t say she’s as i feeling as hubert is but all of her talks of the war boil down to how she feels and never her victims.

Her story is ultimately about her realizing that to achieve her goals, she needs to let people in and allow herself to want things like cakes and tea parties and lazy days in peace.

????? what ????? her goals include imperialism, ethnic and religious targeting. her story is about having a set of beliefs and mowing down anybody who stands in her way. that has nothing to do with tea, friends, and lazy days. also am i supposed to be sad that she has to get up everyday and work? i do that and i didn’t start a war and only throw a pity party for myself

The game leaves the player guessing as to how involved the Flame Emperor was in each Part I event, makes you feel hurt by her betrayal, and leaves you with a choice: do you follow the orders of the woman who tried to make you a god without your consent, or a young girl with questionable morals about to throw the world into upheaval?

this isn’t an ideal situation but i think i’m going to stick with the woman who tried to make me a god since i’m not selfish and i know it’s not only my desires and life at stake here. plus the green hair slaps ngl

Choosing her of your own volition (not for completionist reasons) requires the basic ability to sympathize with a woman’s pain. It also requires the player to read beyond her unwavering will and dubious methods to get a sense of how deep that pain goes and how the theme of humanity relates to her differently in each route.

i’m not going to touch this since @nilsh13 made a post on it that i’ll link here. i agree with everything he said so to repeat it would be redundant.

The player must be able to see a young woman’s desperate resolve to change the world so it stops exploiting people and ruining lives. They must be able to accept the fact that women can make the same morally wrong and ambivalent decisions that complicated male characters get to make all the time and still be the one to root for.

literally the same reason i love rhea lol her goddess experiments are dubious at best but her reasons are the same you mentioned. i would say that i like this quality in edelgard too if her ending, while bloody, actually ended in a good outcome for fodlan.

This is not unique to LGBT+ people, but this population is likely to understand why Edelgard feels so strongly about why she has to change the system.

i understand wanting to change a system, i really do. like edelgard, i’m an opinionated bisexual woman (who’s also physically disabled) so yeah i get it. and change can be good but it can also be terrible. even if the church was the boogeyman edelgard treats it as she still replaces it with her own shit regime. so it’s the same circus just with a new conductor.

I don’t think “Edelgard gets undue criticism because she’s a woman” captures the full picture. An important aspect of her treatment by certain parts of the fandom is that she’s a radical woman.

or maybe she does some pretty fucked up shit and it goes unacknowledged in her own route. and yeah she’s radical but in all the worst ways.

Her hatred of the Church and the Crest system resonates way harder with people who have been hurt by institutions that are deeply engrained in our society.

and what about people who have been hurt by systems where their ‘merit’ didn’t measure up and they were left behind? what about people from nations that experienced imperialism?

Siding with her means siding against the Church - which, while different from real world religious institutions, still invokes language about “sin” and “punishment.

yeah the ‘sins’ and ‘punishments’ are used in relation to attempted murders which i think everybody can agree is a bad thing that needs to be condemned.

Choosing Edelgard will likely hit different if homophobic and transphobic Christians used that rhetoric against you.

it has literally nothing to do with ‘sins’ and ‘punishments’ in regards to being gay or trans. that’s you projecting. especially since the church has 2 canon gay characters and two coded ones.

like i can understand why having a church condemn you can be uncomfortable but i’m begging you to please look at the context of what’s happening.

I’m willing to go out on a limb and say that the reason F/F Edeleth is the more popular iteration of that ship because most people who would choose to S-support Edelgard are LGBT+ themselves. This is not a revelation. To anyone in the community, it’s fairly obvious.

i was talking to nilish and he said

so yeah… while there is definitely sapphic femleth shippers out there, there’s still a whole lot of weird fetishizing going on from straight men about edelgard.

Crimson Flower was my first route. I went into the game knowing absolutely nothing. I played it during the last week of 2020 and hoo boy was it cathartic.

i can tell. this wasn’t supposed to be a dig but it came out that way and i’m not taking it out.

I felt like I was living out a gay revolution power fantasy, where I could truly change systems of oppression while fighting alongside a group of troubled students I’d shaped the lives of.

so a gay revolution power fantasy (cringe) goes hand in hand with imperialism and installing a dictatorship? also the war had nothing to do with sexuality.

Through your unwavering support, Edelgard learns that she needs to be human, that she must listen to her friends, and that she’s allowed to enjoy the world she’s creating.

edelgard gets to learn how to be human all while hunting those who don’t. and she doesn’t listen fo her friends. she doesn’t even trust them. she’s willing to talk to byleth but keep the people who’s been by her side for five years in the dark about everything. and yeah she gets to enjoy her new words since she’s on top. hate to be a commoner under her rule after she burned down my village in her war.

I love this character so much.

clearly. and i honestly don’t care if somebody likes her. i do as well even if my sometimes scathing words can make it seem otherwise.

It has been six months since I first played and I am still analyzing her,

me too. please help me escape i’m losing my mind

because there’s so much depth. Yet so many people fail to see that depth and dismiss her as evil,

i mean, she does some fucked up shit that goes beyond any of the less than desirable actions of the other main characters and does an extremely poor job in trying to make herself seem innocent. i personally don’t think she’s pure evil but i completely understand where the people who say she is are coming from.

because they never had the will to understand complicated women in the first place.

that’s big talk from somebody who implies that a gay pope is comparable to homophobic and transphobic irl religions and that leads an oppressive regime all because she uses the vague terms of sin and punishments that you have to gay power fantasy your way out of

#i finished this at 1am so sorry if i’m incoherent #mine

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