right now, I think my current problem with the crimeboys ending is it being presented as a Happy ending, in the fandom now and the potential of that being the case in canon in the future.
the problem isn’t Just that it wasn’t earned in the arc as a whole, but that it wasn’t earned from the Tone Of The Stream Itself.
I can’t stomach seeing people talk about how Now, Now tommy’s secure in his relationship with wilbur and he feels wanted and loved and safe when the Only thing we have that’s supposed to give that us that answer is a book that wilbur wrote for him that we never get to read.
and front loading That is tommy being violently upset, crying and lashing out, because he thinks wilbur is going to kill himself again. something that he has every right to believe considering the last time he saw wilbur months ago Wilbur Was Threatening To Kill Himself.
wilbur only told tommy the truth, that he was leaving, after tommy pried it out of him. and then he Left, and Immediately after he admitted that he was avoiding tommy Deliberately because the idea of talking to him was Too Hard.
after it was stressed time and time again that all tommy wanted was honesty, all he wanted was the chance to be there with wilbur. and he got neither. their ending gave him neither.
so we headcanon that wilbur is sending tommy letters, how is tommy ever supposed to trust that wilbur is telling the truth in them. he certainly had no problem lying to phil in the lead up to the 16th. he certainly had no problem lying to tommy over and over again, until the truth came out to bite both of them.
tommy is chronically loved from the other room, and this is That taken to an extreme.
even if you read this as a soft ending, even if you ignore that dream is for sure going to try to murder and or torture tommy now that he’s alone, I cannot for the life of me understand how anybody could read this as an ending where tommy is Happy.
where he gets to be content and comfortable and feel secure in his relationships. when he opens up to someone for the first time in his entire life about the trauma he experienced and then they ghost him and leave.
wilbur Chose to leave this time, he Chose to leave tommy where it wasn’t safe, and he didn’t trust in tommy enough, have the faith in him Enough to be honest about that. to let him prepare for it emotionally. to even spend time with him in the space between the exile stream and him leaving.
wilbur has every right to leave if that’s what he has to do for himself, I’m not gonna deny that. but the idea that tommy could have Faith or Trust in their relationship going forwards is so.
“Now tommy is secure in this relationship, Now tommy knows that he is loved”
does he? and if he does, what does being loved mean if nobody will ever stay?
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you may have already answered something like this but, as a fan of the comics from before the show, I’m curious what your thoughts on the changes were. personally i really enjoyed it as an adaptation and my only real issues were aesthetic (it needed more bright color)
idk if I mentioned I was talking about paper girls in the previous ask or not whoops 😅
I really don't mind most of the changes! Paper Girls is such an expansive, explosive story on paper; the comic versions of these children are ping-pong balls firing off from one insane, splashy situation to the next in a heartbeat. A world made of ink and paper can afford to have crazy dinosaurs and hockey sticks sticking out of thin air and bombastic scene-scapes in past, super-past, super-future, etc. The show...in order to be feasible, kind of can't? If they'd done a one-to-one execution, 1) it would have cost a truly insane amount (or looked absolutely awful with VFX teams being run ragged lately) and 2) I don't think it would be accessible for non-comic readers. I think they did an excellent job of toning the whole thing down without losing the heart of what's happening, grounding the world so the viewer doesn't feel as though their face is being blown off with every shot.
I also think this really benefits the girls in terms of character building. KJ in the comics figures out she's gay because she gets some flash-bang images dumped into her head, and one of them is kissing Mac. That's great for that medium--but you get SO much more out of that journey onscreen by actively seeing her adult self be relaxed and happy with a girlfriend. Getting to watch KJ have that quiet mental breakdown (which, in 1988, she absolutely would do; finding out at 12 that you're destined to be queer, especially coming from a family that "cares what everyone else thinks" like hers does, would be incredibly jarring) and then slowly come to terms with what it all means is much more effective on a grounded level. Same with Mac finding out she dies, not from some random lady telling her the family moved afterward, but from the older brother she's revered her whole life--and then building on that relationship to help her on this journey of understanding she's always had value. Erin getting time to discover her adult self is way cooler than she gave her credit for gives adult!Erin's final scene so much more punch than if it they'd gone the clone!Erin route, and gives her room to learn that maybe there's more to life than just being the caretaker.
None of these story beats are better or worse, per se; they just exist more cleanly in the tone of this world. The comic beats are perfect for a comic world, and the television ones are easier to digest as viewers who watch these actors make choices to flesh out the characters scene-to-scene.
Even the colors, I understand. Like. The comics have some of my favorite art, hands down. Paper Girls and Wicked and the Divine are probably my top-tier comics for just how gorgeous they are--but, as with the languages of the future teens and the Old Timers, I wonder if having the palette that extreme would have been alienating to the eyeballs. The whole final episode is kind of rough to watch simply because they've cast that magenta filter over it all; imagine a whole show with such vibrancy. It's possible to do, but I don't think it would have fit the tone as well. I think they found a middle ground that works really well for a first season, and if they get a second, I would think that is where they might start to play with expanding the imagery.
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How do you feel about Ash Ketchum (aka World Champion) retiring from the anime soon?
Very bittersweet :’) On one hand it’s really difficult letting go of a core piece of my childhood, on the other I think we’ve seen p much everything there is to see from Ash’s journey and it’s at a very good stopping point now, so I’m comfortable with his story ending here.
I’m actually very excited to see which direction they go in with the SV anime, and since I absolutely adore SV’s story I really hope they adapt all of that in the new season. It sucks we won’t be able to experience that with Ash but that boy’s been carrying us long enough, I think it’s time he finally gets some rest
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the heavenly beggar's only desire was to fight kyrgios again, after having lost to him before. he vowed revenge, but he never got to meet kyrgios. their paths split, with kyrgios transcending and the heavenly beggar becoming a constellation. lee hakhyun simply fulfilled his wish.
the heavenly beggar notices the constellation's indirect messages, and again chastises the constellations for being the only one to risk it all and join the scenarios.
but he didn't really risk it all. instead of choosing to be reborn as an ordinary incarnation, he chose to possess another human instead. he's still a constellation, he's just temporarily come down to participate in the story directly. he hasn't really risked everything, he still gave himself a chance to escape.
and then it's revealed that there's a meteorite right nearby. :(
now, lhh could call the constellation a coward, could have called him pathetic for deluding himself from reality, but doesn't everyone dream? instead, lhh asks if he can see the story clearly now. he asks for the medicine and the flag. the constellation asks if he would be able to take care of everyone in the station, and even if lee hakhyun isn't confident, this is something he will have to do. lhh asks the constellation to return to the sky, even if loses everything here, his story still remains.
the constellation agrees, and starts to speak-
but something's wrong. above seoul station, there's a great hall. the meteor was from another world. probability sparks everywhere, and a disjointed messages comes out, "don't interrupt a predetermined story," "foolish writer of this world." <- these are spaced out in the text. the gods of another world.
they face off, and lhh runs forward lee hakhyun's skill hasn't activated, so he's not in danger. the outer god, controlling the incarnation body, goes to protect the meteor. but that wasn't what lhh was aiming for. he picks up the flag, and gains control over seoul station. with a thought on whether the outer gods outside the scenarios or the system from the scenarios are stronger, he invokes punishment.
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Therapist Doffy has lived rent-free in my head for some time now. Poor little reader pulling up to a house on the outskirts of the city that you couldn’t even dream of affording in three lifetimes, but he said over the phone that he’d gladly work with you on the cost, and can offer a sliding fee scale.
He’s the only therapist with open appointments less than six months away, so you eagerly accept, though the tone in his voice and the way he laughs low and dark on the other end of the line suggests that your fees aren’t subsidized by his wealthier clients, and he’ll expect some sort of payment from you one at or another. 😌 And he barely even has to lift a finger to get you dependent on him, convincing you that he’s the only one you can trust, the only one that matters, the only one who can fix whatever’s broken in your silly little brain, even as he unravels you more and more every session.
_ノ乙(、ン、)_ Ah... That's it I'm dead for good now...
Oh my god, that thought is just so dark and desperate and makes me want to crawl up a wall. It just hits so close to home, you know? Many of us would take whatever appointment gets thrown our way - just please, please, anything, just a little relief or at least the illusion of hope. And to stumble right into the arms of someone who has the very opposite of our best interest in mind, who'll actually make us suffer more than we did before, who'll turn us so utterly dependent on them we won't even be able to see those tricks and mind games for what they are - oh god.
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I've had to make a spreadsheet to keep track of the vignettes. and I'm pretty certain over half this book isn't going to be about Conall and Arlo. This format really gives me room to play with the whole time fuckery that happens around Arlo so the connections between sections are going to be more about themes vibes and flow than linear story progression. Like I'll make a key that sorts all 7 ish timelines linearly within themselves and another that sorts them all into one timeline. Because a good portion of these happen concurrently.
Like, A scene might play from Arlo's pov and ten sections later you'll get it from Conall's. and while that's happening the two different versions of Asena are both doing their own thing at that same moment.
Also there's 2 Asena's now. one of them isn't happy about it but the other doesn't know that other version of herself exists.
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