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The Whole Story

Before we begin, a disclaimer: I believe that Taylor Swift and Karlie Kloss are in a romantic relationship together. I've come to this conclusion carefully by reading all the signs Taylor has given us through her lyrics, media presence, clothing & jewelry choices, marketing, visuals, and interviews. This is all a theory of what I think has gone down between Karlie and Taylor since 2013.

2013 & Earlier - The Beginning

VS Fashion Show 2013: The first official meeting of Karlie & Taylor was at the 2013 VS Fashion Show.

This may not have been their true first encounter (s/o @sophietv for her amazing work about this, she outlines all the times Kaylor interacted prior to the fashion show in 2013!).

According to a Teen Vogue interview in 2014, Taylor and Karlie were introduced to each other at the same time that Taylor met Emma Stone by Andrew Bevan of Teen Vogue. That was in 2008 at the Young Hollywood Awards.

After that first meeting in 2008, Taylor attended a number of fashion shows that Karlie walked in: Tommy Hilfiger Spring Show (9/16/2009); Rodarte Spring 2012 show in NYC (9/13/2011); Jean-Paul Gauthier in Paris (9/30/2012), Elie Saab Spring/Summer 2013 Show (10/3/2012).

Karlie & Taylor also both attended Roberto Cavalli's 40th Anniversary Party (9/30/2010) and the Met Gala in 2011. Teen Vogue included a quote from Karlie about the Met: "Taylor Swift. I was introduced to her at the Met Gala, and we joked about having a baking date!"

January 17th, 2012: The iconic Twitter interaction between Kaylor finally happens! Taylor's cover story with Vogue includes a quote about Karlie: "I love Karlie Kloss, I want to bake cookies with her!" Karlie tweets at her the same day the cover releases.

2013 Victoria's Secret Fashion Show

By the time the 2013 VS Show rolled around, I think they were already dating in some capacity, and the fashion show was a PR move. If Taylor & Karlie were going to become "close friends" in the public eye, they needed a high-profile, highly documented story about how they met to avoid questions about the nature of their close relationship.

Taylor performed I Knew You Were Trouble (Red) for the show, and she danced with Karlie on stage while 'snow' fell.

"So it goes, you two are dancing in a snow globe round and round." - You Are in Love, 1989

Karlie later revealed in an interview that she had gotten a dramatic haircut during a Vogue shoot just before the VS Fashion Show began. This haircut was a big deal- she changed her look completely without talking to anyone about it, and Vogue asked her to keep it a secret until the shoot dropped. So she showed the VS Fashion Show like "surprise! New hair!" which drew up quite a buzz. Taylor's hair was pretty blonde and long at the time, not fully bleached but certainly lightened up in comparison to her natural hair color.

"flashback when you met me, your buzz cut & my hair bleached" - Dress, reputation

Karlie posted a ton of pictures from this event (most of which were of her and Taylor) on her Instagram. She also starts posting really sappy Instagram posts about being in love.

I think that the November 14th, 2013 post about receiving your favorite flowers from the person you love is about Taylor Swift, but who's to say!

Then, on Friday, December 13th, 2013 (Taylor's 21st birthday, which I think she references in an interview sometime when she's talking about why she loves the number 13) Karlie posts two sugarplum fairy-related photos, capturing the scene in The Nutcracker where snow falls from the sky as delicate performers dressed in white dance along the stage. This is super Taylor-coded, giving YAIL, dancing in the damn snowglobe again.

Interesting caption there, Kar. "#flashbackfriday to the good old days as a sugarplum fairy myself (aka the day I peaked)"

On December 14th, Karlie posts a solo shot on instagram and tags Josh with photo credit (this is hilarious that we let them just tell us whoever took their picture with absolutely no questioning whether they might be lying???). For some reason, I get the feeling that Taylor took this photo for Karlie the morning after her birthday when they were still together from celebrating the night before.

2014 - You're My Best Friend

Taylor buys her massive Tribeca, NY Penthouse apartment in April 2014. The home was actually TWO penthouse apartments next door to each other, and then she bought a third townhouse unit next door in 2017, and in 2018 she bought an additional 3-bedroom unit in the same building. Go off NYC Real Estate Queen! Taylor moved into her iconic Cornelia Street apartment during a round of renovations at her Tribeca home in 2016.

Big Sur Trip

VS Fashion Show 2014

Vogue Cover

BEST Best Friends

1989 - October 27, 2014

"The inspiration that I found in that [New York] city is kind of hard to describe and hard to compare to any other force of inspiration I've ever experienced in my life." - Taylor Swift, discussing the importance of NYC in an interview with ABC News given on 10/20/2014 ahead of a 1989 promo single release for Welcome to New York (1989). That quote actually reminds me of a lyric from 1989: you understand now why they lost their minds & fought the wars, and why I've spent my whole life trying to put it into words (You Are in Love, 1989).

2015 - Hiding in Plain Sight

1989 era so many public appearances blah blah blah they were girlfriends in public kissgate gay whatever, everyone agrees that Karlie & Taylor were dating in 2015 during 1989 World Tour etc

2016 - Beards or Bust

Politics and Jared Kushner

The unfortunate reality of 2016 was that Donald Trump really did get elected president, and then he really did take office and become the President of the United States from January 2017 - January 2021. (Sadly, none of it was a nightmare or even a collective hallucination, all of this actually happened in the good old U.S. of A., yeehaw!!) The sociopolitical climate in the US is charged, fraught, uncertain, and divided. Even worse for Taylor & Karlie is their closeness to Jared Kushner, Josh's older brother who is married to Ivanka Trump. Jared served as a senior advisor to Donnie Boy for his entire term, and he did such a good job being Don's accomplice in negligent, ethnocentric, homophobic, misogynistic leadership from the White House that he was made the Director of the Office of American Innovation (this entire office was created by Trump in March 2017 and dissolved by Biden in January 2021).

I think (and this is JUST speculating, I have no real evidence compiled yet to back this up, but I'll look for it eventually) Jared Kushner & Ivanka Trump are also in a queer-bearding relationship contract. I'm not going too far into it now, but there's stuff out there for both Jared and Ivanka, like former Trump staffer Noel Casler's allegations that Jared is gay and in an "arranged marriage" with Ivanka, who doesn't care about his sexuality due to her own sexual opportunism and likely queer identity.

If Jared and Ivanka really are queer and in a non-monogamous, mutually beneficial public relationship that allows them to co-parent their three children, then their involvement in the Trump administration makes things pretty damn unsafe if they ever were found out. So, I think that when Trump was elected, the entire Kushner family had to be super locked down to keep both Jared & Ivanka AND Josh & Karlie (and Mikey and Taylor) safe from any unwanted allegations.

Since the Kushner and Hess families hold international influence, wealth, and power, if all these billionaire men were suddenly outed as gay there could be serious economic and political consequences across the globe.

Not so coincidentally, Karlie and Taylor's last public event together was Lorde's birthday on Monday, November 7th, 2016. The 2016 Presidential Election took place on Tuesday, November 8th, 2016, which sealed the fate of the Kushner name to be attached to Donald Trump's Presidency. I believe that if Trump had not won (which no one expected him to do) Karlie & Taylor would not have started this Love Blackout.

This photo is the end of Kaylor's public friendship, and the start of their Love Blackout (shout out to @sophietv again for being the BEST!!)

Joe Alwyn - A Perfectly Palatable Person

I'm sure when the team realized Trump might actually win the election, they started looking for an acceptable beard. Joe really was a great choice for Taylor's life: he had features similar to Karlie's (light eyes, tall, blonde hair), he didn't have much going on with his own reputation, he had a sparkling clean dating history - because Taylor was his first ever girlfriend, he was a fellow artist and was already media trained, and he was gay, too!

Met at the Met - May 2016

red herring lyric (tied to VS 2013 show)

First Reports - May 16, 2017

The Sun broke the news of Taylor Swift and Joe Alwyn dating on May 16, 2017. According to Tree Paine a source, they had been secretly dating for months. It's later assumed that they started dating a few months before January 1, 2017, (revealed in a Lover journal released in 2019). Some sleuthing swifties connect a lyrical swap in the acoustic cover of "September" by Earth, Wind, and Fire as performed by our girl Taylor (Friday, April 13, 2018) to the diary entry and determine their anniversary was probably September 28, 2016.

Supportive Boyfriend Award? - December 8, 2017

Joe does something of heroic power. He goes to a concert with his popstar girlfriend. He apparently attended Taylor's performance in the iHeartRadio JingleBall in NYC and "stayed for the whole show and they later left together as well." lmao wut, okay, lots of people stayed for the whole show, this is such a boring relationship roll out, especially for Miss Extra!! (lovingly)

Toe is Officially Official - May 8th, 2018

Joe finally takes his instagram off private mode and posts a picture of himself, alone, next to a big cactus. Taylor also posts a picture of herself, alone, near the same big cactus. Alright, I guess that *technically* counts as giving the public some confirmation that you two know each other, but I bet Tree was mad as hell when that was their "official instagram announcement."

Then, Joe joins Taylor at the opening night of the Reputation Stadium tour in Glendale, AZ. He wore a baseball cap low to cover his face and "stay incognito" (Joe, babe, no one knows who you are...but like okay i guess, be weird about your fame that you literally wanted and signed up for). But during the song Gorgeous apparently Taylor pointed at Joe in the VIP tent, while he proudly filmed her.

Taylor travels around the country for the Reputation Stadium Tour from May-November 2018. The Rep tour is SO, SO GAY, like Jesus Christ Lesbian Jesus save us from all the rainbow and bisexual flagging!! Check my twitter thread for a full analysis of how gay the Dress performance is.

Reputation Promo:

Taylor Swift socials

Karlie Kloss socials

Reputation, The Album

Reputation was released on November 10, 2017.I consider Reputation to be Taylor & Karlie's "I'm so in love that I might stop breathing" album. This is the honeymoon, this is the up all night, can't stop, won't stop, I need you more than air kind of love.

This album is all about the pining and desperately waiting, hiding their anticipation, hands shaking from holding back from touching each other where anyone might see them. Much like Taylor's own media presence & public interactions in the Reputation era, Kaylor had gone dark, nobody heard from them for months, but they're doing better than they ever were.

2018 - Desperate Measures

The honeymoon phase ends in 2018 as shit in America gets worse for queer folks. The sociopolitical climate is getting more dangerous now, and Trump's constant attacks on LGBTQIA+ rights & safety is making matters much worse. Jared Kushner & Ivanka Trump are in the media a lot now, which means all eyes are on Josh, too.

Toe is Officially Official - May 8, 2018

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Instead of hosting her usual big 4th of July Party at the Holiday House in RI, Toe goes on vacation to Turks & Caicos to celebrate the holiday. They call Backgrid to take a few pictures of them "frolicking" at the beach together. I'm so convinced, they're in LOVE!! Can't get enough of each other!! They totally hold hands all the time, this feels so natural and not weird at all!

Karlie posts a few photos in a row about the 4th of July this year. First, she's in her Anti-Hero colored pajamas with her left eye closed in a wink, sitting on a few suitcases, captioned "Kissin Paris Goodbye. *kissy face emoji*"

Then, another post on the 4th itself is of a WMAG stylized photoshoot where Karlie is a cowboy, for the Wild West with Cowboy Karlie campaign. It's captioned "Going into the 4th like *cowboy emoji* @/wmag" EXCUSE ME. "You're a cowboy like me, perched in the dark, telling all the rich folks anything they wanna hear like it could be love I could be the way forward only if they pay for it"

The implications of a Cowboy Like Me reference and this photo's timing has on their engagement story has me dead. I'll do a whole lyrical analysis and tie in of it soon.

And then she posts this pic of her swimming in an unidentifiable body of water. Could it be Turks & Caicos? Maybe!

Joshlie announces their engagement on July 24, 2018 while the two are on a vacation in XYZ? People Magazine reports that the proposal "took place a few weeks ago during a romantic weekend together in upstate New York." So they got engaged sometime in the beginning of July, right?

On July 10th, she posts a video of herself voguing down the runway with "This Kiki is Marvelous" playing in the background during Paris Fashion Week in September 2013. Her performance was considered one of the highlights of Paris Fashion Week. She captioned the video: Mood. @/jpgaultierofficial.

Quick question for Karlie, why do you feel the same way you felt before you went on stage for a make or break performance out of your comfort zone? You performed incredibly but it could have easily turned out very differently. Why would you be feeling like that right around the time of your engagement to Josh Kushner?

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Karlie's instagram post on July 16, 2018 captioned "bestest of weekends with my bestest of friends" included group photos and a video of her & four girlfriends from her childhood.

So she got engaged and then spent a weekend with her friends, who then commented on instagram pictures from the weekend saying "remember, there's nothing better than old friends!" Why the heck are they talking about friends so much!? She literally just got engaged to Jo- ohhh.... Oh, right, he's gay, and she's gay. Old friends. Ahhhh.

Taylor responds to the engagement news breaking by having special guest, Haley Kiyoko aka Lesbian Jesus, join her for the Rep show at Gillette Stadium on July 27, 2018. Taylor specifically requests to sing Curious with Haley, which is a song about a lesbian woman singing to her ex-lover who is now dating a man, asking her ex if she lets him touch her the way she used to. So gay, so timely, Taylor is a petty bitch & I love her.

Do the girls back home touch you like I do? Delicate (Reputation)

The Wedding, October 18, 2018

Karlie wears her custom Dior gown and very amicably marries Joshua in someone's backyard, it looks like. Things seem perfectly pleasant, almost like watching a wedding scene featuring two actors with no sexual chemistry whatsoever.

2019 - Every Time I Don't, I Almost Do

Lover Promo is all very gay, very loud, very comingoutlor.

ME! out now! on Lesbian visibility day, April 26, 2019.

YNTCD music video out on June 16, 2019.

The Wedding, Part Two: Cowboy Karlie and Her Cowboy, Her Man

Karlie Kloss and Joshua Kushner celebrate their wedding again with a private group of friends from June 20-23rd, 2019 in Wyoming. It's cowboy themed, for whatever reason.

This wedding into a honeymoon in Africa would have been a wonderful strategy to keep the spotlight off of Karlie in Taylor Swift's immediately impending plan to come out on June 30th, 2019. Go read @sophietv's incredible post that details the failed coming out (fuck Scooter Braun).

2020: The Great War

January:

February: Karlie is in Paris, Taylor is advertising The Man MV (out February 27).

March: Quarantine begins March 16th & Taylor starts writing folklore almost immediately, which means that the events in folklore have already happened before COVID begins.

MORE ON THE WAY! I've got:

What happens when Karlie gets back to the US?

How does the Lover era go?

Lover social media & marketing presence

8.24.2019 - Blue

9.9.2019 - Lover in Paris performance

10.7.2019 - Sad Girl SNL

10.11.2019 - Sad Girl TinyDesk (& ring)

Continued sus social media from TSwift

Miss Americana

2020: The Great War (3.16.2020, Quarantine begins)

Lonely Millennial Woman Covered in Cat Hair

folklore

evermore

Karlie's Pregnancy

2022: Go Viral (Midnights, Red TV)

2023: Midnights, Eras, Speak Now TV, Broken Toe, 1989 TV, Kaylor Renaissance

My Predictions

#kaylor #lsk #taylor and karlie #gaylor #lgbetty #taylor swift #1989 taylor's version #reputation #lover #folklore #evermore #the eras tour #karlie kloss #Youtube

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9w1ft · 6 months

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Interested to hear your interpretation on Suburban Legends

first off the song and beat sounds so similar to mastermind and gold rush. particularly mastermind. listen to the opening seconds back to back! she sings through a lot of it similarly in my opinion

and it has some of the similar mechanics of mastermind in that it leads you to believe the song is going one way but then pulls a switcheroo on you at the end and the swell in the music aids that at the end which makes it a really sweet and emotional listening experience. i’ll get to that in a second.

i think at the beginning of taylor knowing or being aware of karlie (so like, your kitchen or mine times), this was very much the situation. karlie is in her peripheral vision (on her radar) but just as taylor described in gold rush, karlie seemed like something utterly unattainable. in lover as well we get the line “i’m highly suspicious that everyone who sees you wants you” and i think this fits with this description of karlie.

i didn’t come here to make friends echoes their entire conceit of mastermind, and a lot of the kaylor discography that uses the word ‘friend’ — another way to say “i don’t want you like a best friend” etc

also this is a sort of throwaway point but “i didn’t come here to make friends” was a 2000’s reality tv phrase that came into popularity via the show America’s Next Top Model. it was iconic and soon every competitive reality tv show under the sun had contestants saying it.. but it’s origins are from a show about models! of which karlie is one.

more importantly, the “you kiss me in a way that’s gonna screw me up forever” is like the follow up to the gold rush “eyes like sinking ships on waters so inviting i almost jump in” language. it’s cruel summer’s “snuck in through the garden gate every night that summer just to seal my fate” because falling in love with karlie lead to taylor wanting her complications too

mismatched star signs works because fire signs traditionally match best with air signs. also visually, stars mismatched fits in with mastermind’s “the planets and the fates and all the stars aligned” — things that weren’t in alignment coming into alignment.

there’s a bunch of story page chapter stuff throughout taylor’s discography, some of which makes its way into kaylor but i’d probably write for way too long so i’m just gonna skip over that for now

this part might be a bit tricky but i sort of blame it on many kaylors not talking that much about really early kaylor possibilities out of (a sort of unearned) respect and the one way street principle of staying in our lane but the idea of taylor saying “i know that when you told me we’d get back together and kissed me that you remember[ed] we were born to be national treasures” isn’t that too wild of a statement if you imagine them as maybe briefly connecting or talking at some point before taylor made her plans to make karlie hers. indeed, we know their paths crossed several times before they were first connected at the 2013 vs fashion show.

*for posterity, i included the apple music lyrics as the genius lyrics appear to be worded partially incorrectly

this is the part of the song which i just think is so beautifully done. in particular i love the “you don’t knock anymore” of it all

at first it sounds like she’s saying karlie doesn’t knock anymore because she come around anymore, or this idea of there having been a breakup or a period of not being together or something sad, which is matched by the tone of how she sings it for the first time. the waves crashing to the shore feels like a storm.

but at the end of the repetition her voice becomes more upbeat and it dawns on you, you’re like, oh wait karlie doesn’t knock anymore because she doesn’t need to knock anymore, she has a key! (“is that your key in the door?” anyone?)

and suddenly the waves meeting the shore is a pleasant image of unification and happiness. she closes with the thought “you don’t knock anymore and i always knew it” which makes it feel a bit more like mastermind’s “you knew the entire time, and now you’re mine” — always knowing they would get together, taylor always knowing karlie was the one. “and my life had been ruined” is sung in a sort of sweet resignation, one that i find throughout a lot of kaylor music, the idea that she knows its complicated but that its what she chose.

so yeah! that’s why suburban legends is a kaylor song to me 😌

#kaylor

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pinkorchidsinspring · 11 months

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I just would like to bring up this heavenly cover, (if you haven’t watched her cover of this you need to) because I have many things to say after reading comments, and just watching it.

(This cover aired October, 2014)

I love that she’s so “straight” that not only did she not change the pronouns, but her and the interviewer said the song was from a woman’s perspective.

Let’s simply go through the lyrics shall we? Here’s a little key for my organized babes reading my complicated explanation 😘

Orange: Karlie

Pink: Taylor

Blue: 1989

Green: evermore

I was scared of pretty girls and starting conversations

Taylor was scared of pretty girls, does that sound like any supermodel we know?

This guy decides to quit his job and heads to New York City

Taylor quit her life back home in Pennsylvania & Nashville and headed to New York City, and lived near who? Cornelia street anyone?

This living situation obviously resulted in quite the album called “1989”.

This video came out on October 9th, 2014, it was obviously promo for 1989 which came out October 27th, 2014.

We obviously know and realize that part of 1989 is about Diana Aragon and Taylor’s relationship with her.

We also realize that by the time both this interview and 1989 came out Taylor had publicly known Karlie for 11 months.

However this Victoria’s Secret fashion show⬇️ was actually taped in November of 2013, so they had officially known each other almost a full year privately.

So the way she didn’t change any pronouns and was so happy singing it because of this lack of change, implys her happiness with whatever relationship they had going on. Whether that be platonic or romantic.

This cowboy's running from himself

Taylor is running from herself and the pain she caused herself with her last relationships. And of course Incidentally references her not yet planned 9th studio album.

And the song called “cowboy like me”

You're a cowboy like me, Perched in the dark

Telling all the rich folks anything they wanna hear

Eyes full of stars

Hustling for the good life (fame +riches)

Never thought I'd meet you here (at a VS fashion show? 😏)

It could be love

Wonder who that songs about… anyway-

And she's been living on the highest shelf

Karlie is a supermodel, she makes bank, and gets the highest tier treatment.

Closest thing to Michelle Pfeiffer that you've ever seen

(Michelle pfeiffer left, karlie kloss right) If you skip to 2:20 in the video, Taylor cannot keep a straight face simply out of anticipation to sing this lyric. She’s grinning up to her eyes. 💗

A little bit self explanatory why this cover wasn’t done just for promo isn’t it?

Taylor communicates with us. People just don’t listen.

Link to my other song analysis’

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gojoandtojisleftnut · 2 years

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jjk men’s reaction to your vs catwalk

Pairings: gojo x reader, toji x reader, geto x reader, nanami x reader

Genre: headcanon

A/n & possible tw: I want this to be all inclusive for everyone even though it’s a Victoria’s Secret show. Think of it more a Fenty one not just skinny and tall but with the VS style if that makes sense. I’ll put references of each fit. <3 fem reader, fluff, suggestive content

✓ Gojo

This bitch brought everyone he knew to come and see you. Firsts years second, third, even Gaku.

He’s wearing his best suit. He needs to look the best for your big day.

You haven’t showed him your fit or told him when you’re coming out so it’s all a surprise for him.

He’s a Taylor swift stan, I’m convinced so this is great for him.

When he sees you open the show wearing all white and huge angel wings he goes crazy. He’s convinced it’s because you wanted to match him.

He gets up from his seat and starts clapping and cheering like a mad man.

He tells everyone around him your his girlfriend. Of course he receives weird looks.

He made Shoko record you with his phone because he claimed he wanted to focus on the real thing and not the camera.

At the after party he refuses to leave your side. You make him meet all the other angels all while his hands are around your waist holding you close to him. Occasionally giving your wet neck kisses and promising you to treat you right at home.

Gojo reference: vs fashion show 2013/behati opening

✓ Nanami

He’s so nervous. It isn’t something he’s used to, the whole scenery.

He’s brought Gojo with him. Big mistake, he acts like a child all he wants to do is see girls in their underwear.

Since dating him you always tried to match your stuff with the color yellow, gold and colors similar to them cause it always reminded you of him.

So when they gave you a beige set with gold accessories and yellow and orange feathers you were in cloud nine.

‘Sexyback’ starts playing and Justin Timberlake is on stage. The song choice making him nervous.

Then you come out. His whole face turns red seeing you looking so confident wearing his colors.

He’s so modest about it. And kind of embarrassed because Gojo is next to him and he got to see you like that.

He claps and when you turn to look at him blowing him a kiss he dies right then and there.

When the show is over and you’re at the after party he’s still not over it but keeps calm holding your hand while you introduce him to everyone. He congratulated you with a huge bouquet of flowers.

Nanami reference: vs fashion show 2006/gisele opening.

✓ Toji

Daddy Toji takes a lot of pride into the whole thing

He doesn’t know anything about your outfit nor when you come out .

I feel like Toji would either like dark colors on you like black or dark red or pastel pink no in between so he’s hoping for either one of them.

He likes the rock feel of the stage so far and then you come out.

Opening the show wearing exactly red and black. Sheer panties only a small part covering your private parts.

He feels like he’s in heaven.

He doesn’t bother to film he knows it gonna broadcast so he takes in the view.

He doesn’t like the idea of other men looking at you in this state but he reminds himself that he’s the one who gets to fuck you later.

At the after party you barely manage to introduce him to everyone. He just pulls you away to make out with you.

He’s so impatient to go home and fuck your brains out but he knows you guys have to stay and doesn’t want to just fuck around in the bathroom.

Long night ahead of you.

Toji reference: vs fashion show 2017/ Candice opening

✓ Geto

He’s a simple man really. Whatever you wear he’ll be happy.

He’s nervous for you but he’s calm and collected just like Nanami.

He has Gojo and Shoko with him for support.

When the music starts playing he lets his nerves get the best of him and he shakes his leg uncontrollably.

Then you walk out. With a fuchsia set so simple but really it’s enough for him to get him going.

You look at him and wink and he returns the biggest smile while clapping for you.

Gojo pats his back proud for his friend

Till the moment you disappear behind the stage he doesn’t take his eyes off you.

At the after party he’s very excited. He meets everyone shaking everyone’s hand but never taking his eyes off you. He congratulated you with a lot of kisses and dancing.

Geto reference: vs fashion show 2009/ Alessandra opening

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chosetherose · 1 year

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She’s singing “it was enchanting to meet you” in a bridal dress that has the same vibes as Karlie’s crystal bodysuit from the 2013 VS fashion show. 🫠

It’s like the bodysuit burst into daisies or something. How will I sleep tonight?

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mayapapayaxox · 10 months

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Which VS fashion show robe should I get? 2010, 2012, 2013, 2014 or 2015?

I think im leaning towards 2014 & 2013 rn but lmk!!

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r1ghtwhereyouleftme · 6 months

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I watched that new vogue interview with karlie aaaandddd- I have thoughts

(Let me preface tho- if you're here to shit on me or gaylors or kaylors or anything. Please don't. Just leave)

1- the vogue 2009 picture reminds me a lot of the rep photo shoot. The slicked back hair, the bare neck/shoulder line, darker kind of look

2- NOT THE 2013 VS FASHION SHOW I CANTTT- no bc she said so little about this look too like- 👀👀

3- "being on the cover of vogue is like winning the superbowl" hm👀

4- looking camp straight in the eye 👁

5- I didn't know she was on project runway with Christian Siriano. That's interestinggggg (lover coming out dress)

6- karlie in a suittttt slayyyy, they had a chance to show that pic and they took it. We love to see it

#gaylor #friends of dorothea #lgbetty #gaylor swift #kaylor #late stage kaylor

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duhragonball · 1 year

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Dream 9 Toriko x One Piece x Dragon Ball Z Super Collaboration Special !! (2013)

Okay, let me start with a disclaimer: I know nothing about Toriko and extremely little about One Piece. No disrespect to One-Piece, but I didn’t like this special very much, because it’s basically crammed full of characters I don’t know, and the ones I do know don’t get a lot of screen time.

So I wasn’t particularly excited to cover this one, and now that I’ve watched it, I can’t say it was a particularly great introduction to Toriko or One Piece. All I really got out of this were a few good screenshots of DBZ guys.

I’ve heard good things about One Piece, and I might check it out one of these decades, but I’ve also heard it’s over a thousand chapters long, and still going, so I might be dead of old age by the time I’m ready to try it. And I have zero interest in Toriko at all. For years, I kept having trouble remembering who the third guy was in this thing, and for some reason I kept thinking it was Bleach.

So this is a good old fashioned crossover, like Superman vs. the Amazing Spider-Man. Well, actually, all three properties are under the Toei banner, so this is more like an intra-company crossover event, like when the Avengers, Fantastic Four, and X-Men get together to do stuff. Or Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman. Basically, in 2013, these were Toei’s “Big Three”, and they wanted to do a cross-promotion.

I never quite understood how DBZ got roped into this. There had been a Toriko/One-Piece crossover before this, but this one aired the week after Battle of Gods first premiered in Japan. So there was a coordinated effort to promote the movie along with the two TV series.

Personally, I have trouble buying into Toriko as one of the “Big Three”. This feels more like Superman and Batman hanging out with Captain Atom or something. And Captain Atom is like “Hey guys! It sure is historic that we’re all teaming up like this. The three greatest superheroes!” And Superman and Batman have to try not to roll their eyes at him. I’m not saying this to bash Toriko or Captain Atom, but they’re not on that level and they know it. I feel like I’ve heard One-Piece has already surpassed Dragon Ball on a number of popularity metrics, and while I find that hard to accept, I believe it, because I hear about it all the time. They made the theme song Krillin’s ringtone in Resurrection F. Every time I hear about Toriko, it’s always this special, where he teams up with two much bigger franchises.

To be fair, Toriko had a much shorter run than the other two. The anime ended in 2014, and the manga wrapped up in 2016. So maybe it just had a smaller pop culture impact.

But I think it might have something to do with the author’s history as a sex offender. In 2002, Mitsutoshi Shimabukuro was arrested and convicted for violating child prostitution laws. He was sentenced to two years in prison, but for some reason the sentence was suspended. So if it sounds like I’m not showing the proper respect to the Toriko franchise... this might have something to do with it.

Okay, so this crossover is organized into two episodes. The first part is Toriko Episode 99. The conclusion is in One Piece Episode 590. Apparently both of these are going to get an English dub when they air on Toonami March 4. That’s like next week, but I don’t want to wait around for that, so here we are.

Here’s the skinny: All of these characters live in the same world now, apparently. Just run with it. The IGO has organized a special tournament, with the winner receiving the Carat-Sized Cattle, a delicacy so tasty and precious that... I don’t know. I saw Goku eat a cloud once, so he seems like more of a “quantity over quality” kind of guy. The Toriko characters are all about gourmet food, so I assume this is to keep them interested. And I think Luffy is another hungry action guy in the tradition of Goku, so that’s enough to get him involved.

Anyway, the tournament is really more of a race. A large crowd of people enter, but early into the event...

A giant antlion or something shows up and most of the contestants get lost in the sand. Did they die? Who knows. All that matters are the characters who didn’t get slowed down by this, and they continue towards the goal.

Sigh... let’s go over the characters. The Toriko side, from left to right is: Toriko, Sunny, Rin, and Koichi Hirose from Diamond is Unbreakable I mean Komatsu. yeah, that’s definitely what I meant to say. We never learn jack shit about Sunny and Rin, so I won’t have much to say about them. Komatsu is some kind of chef, and Toriko’s sidekick.

I literally just finished watching this and I couldn’t tell you anything about these characters. Okay, let me try a little harder.

Luffy’s the stretchy guy with the hat. He’s the leader of the Straw Hat Pirates.

Nami’s like the team’s resident woman. Like, if there’s a Pirate Crime that they can’t solve because the clues involve makeup, Nami will solve it for them, because she knows all about that stuff. Also, she wants the Carat-Sized Cattle because its bones are made out of solid diamond, and she’s into money.

Sanji has a cigarette, so that’s kind of special, I guess.

Chopper looks like a deer or something. Maybe an antelope. I’m pretty sure he once teamed up with NJPW star Minoru Suzuki, so I guess he’s my favorite One Piece dude.

Franky’s a cyborg? I guess?

Slash (aka Saul Hudson) was the lead guitarist for the hard rock band Guns ‘n’ Roses.

Zoro is green and has a sword. So he’s like their Piccolo, I think.

Finally we have... fuck, I have no idea who these assholes are. Was Naruto in this thing too? Dammit, I’m gonna be writing this all day.

So there’s multiple paths in this race, so that allows the characters to split up and get their stuff in. See, my problem with this whole premise is that these shonen franchises have a lot in common, and teaming them up like this really just exposes this flaw. Most of the gags in this thing boil down to “Oh, you have a horny guy on your show? Well here’s the horny guy on our show!” Like, I’m pretty sure the skeleton man has a little more to him than that, but we’re never gonna find out in an hour special featuring 45 characters.

Also Vegeta shows up late, because no one even told him about this event, and he interrupts a showdown between Zoro and... Zebra, I think his name was. They start fighting each other, which sounds like a cool little side-thing, but this is literally all it is. The joke is that they’re fighting off-screen through the rest of the story. So tough luck if any of these guys were your faves.

Oh, hey, it’s King Kai. And he’s not dead in this, which proves that the original theatrical cut of Battle of Gods didn’t have him dead! The DVD release has halos on him and Bubbles, and I’ve known all along that Toei was gaslighting me, so this is my favorite part of this special. Anyway, he calls Goku about a Space Crisis, so Goku just teleports away to deal with that other, probably cooler adventure. Okay, so two things.

First, I really find it gratifying how they put over all the DBZ guys in this. There’s some semblance of parity between Toriko and Luffy, but Goku’s clearly shown to be on another level. They don’t even try to hide it. He’ll knock out a second adventure while he’s slumming this one. Goku doesn’t give a fuck.

Second, this is really, really annoying. Just show me the cool thing Goku’s doing in space. This little gag is basically admitting that the show would be a lot better if all these other characters would take a hike.

So Goku makes it back just as the race is coming to an end, and he still manages to catch up to Toriko and Luffy, so they all grab the flag together and it’s a three-way tie. But that just means we settle it with a tiebreaker....

So the IGO guy had prepared for something like this, and the stadium transforms into a combat sports arena. The last man in the ring wins the beef.

Also, Mr. Satan fell onto the stage during the transformation sequence, so he’s in this thing too, even though he didn’t do the race part.

So Goku works over the other two guys pretty well. I like this fight, but let’s not kid ourselves, much of this is Toriko and Luffy double-teaming Goku. They might have stood a chance that way, but then they turned on each other, and that borked it up.

Anyway, they all cut loose with their full power (except Goku who never goes past Super Saiyan 1), and they destroy the ring, so all three of them lose. Mr. Satan wins, because he managed to stay on the small piece of the stage that wasn’t destroyed.

But Mr. Satan is a magnanimous guy, and the Carat-Sized Cattle is enormous, so he decides to share it with all three groups.

So I think we’re into One Piece Episode 590 now. Everyone sits at this big-ass table and eats and talks about how great the food is. Cripes this is boring as hell. Is this all Toriko does all day?

Aw, look at Marron, she’s so cute.

Toriko says some BS about how eating with friends improves the dining experience. Okay, but I had an omelet from Denny’s this morning and I ate it alone and it kicked ass. Can I just say how absolutely goofy all these characters look when they’re in the same shot?

Then Mr. Satan says the exact same thing Toriko did about the power of sharing or whatever. Cripes this show is so damned redundant. We have like eight guys in orange-red clothes, and four sex pests and this is just dumb.

So then Piccolo and... two other people, confront the guy who organized the tournament, and they ask what the real purpose is to all of this. He admits that it was all a plot to get a bunch of strong guys together to capture the Akami, a dangerous sea creature.

I think the idea is that the Carat-Sized Cattle is so delicious that it lured the Akami up to the surface, where it then begins attacking all the superheroes. Each time the Akami nabs somebody with its tentacles, it absorbs all their power and transforms. Is this supposed to be a Toriko deal or a One-Piece deal? Who cares?

So the gang splits up to find it, because the need to capture it in thirty minutes to cure its victims. Unfortunately, it just gets stronger every time it nabs another one, and it even absorbs energy from attacks, so fighting it is pointless.

Toriko reasons that they’d have to hit it with a lot of energy all at once, so Goku proposes using the Spirit bomb, except that doesn’t work either, because the Akami sucks up the energy faster than Goku can gather it.

So Goku asks everyone on the island to send him more energy, which... I don’t see how that changes the problem, but whatever. The bigger issue I have is that we see a lot of characters sending energy even after they got drained by the Akami. So what are they sending, exactly?

So Goku launches the Spirit Bomb, but the Akami manages to hold it off, so Toriko and Luffy hit it from the sides while Goku goes SSJ3 and fires a Kamehameha at the Spirit Bomb to force it down the Akami’s throat. So that’s a cool variation on the Spirit Bomb. Nice touch.

And that takes care of the Akami.

So then they eat the Akami for dinner, because apparently it has legendarily tasty meat as well. So wait... they had Carat-Sized Cattle and Akami on the same day. Wouldn’t regular food just taste like poop after this? Maybe I’m not supposed to overthink this gimmick.

Then we get these really long pans across still images, as the voice actors read their lines. It’s really, really weak, and there’s like four of these in a row. Is this standard for One Piece? It just seems really cheap, especially for a big “event” episode like this one. Maybe they blew all their budget on that SSJ3 Kamehameha.

Also, they just show the same footage of Vegeta fighting those other guys, so that’s another corner cut. I mean, damn. I’m just gonna re-use the screenshot I took from the first half in protest.

And that’s it. I kind of hope they never do one of these again. Also, Mitsutoshi Shimabukuro belongs in jail.

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There is a French interview with Louise from 2019/2020 (before her album was released) where she said she said something along the lines of wanting to appear as a "naughty child'. She was 31 at the time. As for Alexa, she said at one point she never read the book Lolita but loved the 1997 film. She was still mid 30's with a Lolita phone case. // mods I know you love Alexa but she’s said quite weird and unhinged things. I found this article that seems to summarize some parts of her book IT: “My favourite book is Lolita because I just adore the pubescent teenaged girl look. It rocks. I also like the Edie Sedgwick look. How many drugs can one girl take? Never enough, because taking drugs looks really, really cool.” She also has said that her style looks like a child or something like that. “I love men. By men, I mean famous men.” an ask was sent a few days ago about Jane Birkin saying she was not ambitious and just wanted to look like Jean Shrimpton, here Alexa says why she loves Jane: “My biggest influence has been Jane Birkin. Probably because she has never done that much either.” “My mum is the coolest mum in the world. Whenever I break up with a boyfriend, she tells me to go out and shag someone else. How cool is that?” “Sometimes my male friends get really depressed. That's because they don't have enough leather jackets. You can never have too many leather jackets. I've got 25 at least. I really do believe that if everyone in the world had 25 leather jackets, no one would be unhappy again ever.” “I loved everything about the Spice Girls. Their clothes, their music, their manufactured artificiality. But I especially loved the fact they showed women could become celebrities without having any talent.” (The article: https://amp.theguardian.com/books/2013/sep/08/it-alexa-chung-digested-read) — the interview Alexa said Lolita changed her life: Q: Book that changed your life? AC: ‘Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov.’ (https://www.harpersbazaar.com/uk/culture/culture-news/news/a32800/my-cultural-life-alexa-chung/) and I remember Louise saying something like she’s an “enfant terrible”, also here: “Her name is Louise Verneuil and since the stage name it has been mentioned the golden age of French song. She is with Alex Turner of the Arctic Monkeys and she too, like Birkin, wants to be a “terrible girl” ” (“Si chiama Louise Verneuil e fin dal nome d'arte che si è data cita il periodo d'oro della canzone francese. Sta con Alex Turner degli Arctic Monkeys e anche lei, come la Birkin, vuole essere una “bambina terribile” ” / https://www.rollingstone.it/musica/interviste-musica/dicono-che-questa-cantautrice-sia-la-nuova-jane-birkin/491395/ ) ridiculous how the selling point of Louise and her music in all of the press she did for her album was being the “companion/girlfriend/etc” of Alex Turner, yet in the same interviews she says she’s been making music for 8 years and people shouldn’t know her for her “man” and called the society “misogynist” lmao. also the journalist wrote “are the fans of Alex Turner the problem?” Like be serious, if it wasn’t for Alex she would’ve stayed unknown with an unreleased album and no listeners, no luxury clothes, trips, hotels, Paris apartment, invitations to events like Celine fashion show, Beatles documentary series premiere, aanndd, ……….

Just because we are fans of many of Alexa’s qualities and her work doesn’t mean she’s never said anything weird or dumb to the press. Almost everyone in the public eye will, at some point. We also think some of these may have been jokes. The leather jacket comment sounds very different if you read it as serious vs with sarcasm.

The topic of the book Lolita is a complicated one. Like the other mod mentioned, we both read it recently to try to help us understand. It’s challenging to process and discuss because it’s written with great skill for language and structure and yet tells such a dark, disturbing and sad story. Anyone mentioning something that nuanced and complicated offhand in an interview about fashion/style/music is likely to sound foolish, and is foolish for not realizing it. I will also note that as part of this exercise I watched the 1997 film and it’s not nearly so disturbing because you don’t get so much of Humbert’s internal monologue. Its beautifully filmed and directed and much more superficial in the storytelling, as movie adaptations often are. It’s easier to see how someone could watch that film alone, not read the book, and not quite get the full picture of how dark the story is.

Anyway, pardon this brief monologue. Moral of the story: if you only watch the film and don’t read the book and then try to sound cultured, it won’t work. Just do your homework or better yet, just be yourself and talk about your real interests. 🤷🏻‍♀️

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