#vnc 59

[asogikazumas]

memoire 59 - fuga

#vncedit #vanitas no carte #the case study of vanitas #astolfo granatum #roland fortis #vnc #vnc spoilers #vnc 59 #*mine #*vnc

[grelleswife]

I’m chewing through plaster.

#vnc spoilers #vnc 59 #vnc #vanitas no carte #roland fortis #astolfo granatum #LOOK AT HOW LITTLE TOLFO IS CLINGING TO HIM I CAN’T #mochijun i’m suing you for emotional damages #she came back after that hiatus determined to eviscerate us

[kisslatr]

recently (2 hours ago) converted to roland-astolfo-father-son-ism thanks to vnc 59

#roland fortis #astolfo granatum #vnc fanart #vanitas no carte spoilers #vanitas no carte #my art #vnc 59 #mochijun #mochizuki jun #the case study of vanitas

[jemkha]

Roland: It’s no good, Olivier. I can’t save this boy…not ever.

Astolfo:

#Olivier: … #vanitas no carte #vnc #the case study of vanitas #roland fortis #astolfo granatum #vnc 59 #memoire 59 #spoilers

[cinammonelles]

Vnc 59 spoilers under the cut

Before we begin, please know that my japanese knowledge is very basic, so take everything I say with a grain of salt.

The translation here really did not do the scene justice

What Roland said was more along the lines of "I will always be by your side. There's nothing to be afraid of."

They only took out the 'always' but that one word was actually important because later in the chapter we see

The way the ずっと(zutto) turns to 絶対に(zettai), the alliteration, the way "I will always be by your side" turns to "I can never save you", THE WAY THE PROMISE OF ALWAYS BEING THERE FOR YOU TURNS TO I CAN NO LONGER BE BY YOUR SIDE. I AM SICK.

#i also noticed astolfo uses boku for himself but its written in katakana instead of kanji? #has that got to do something with his self hate? #anyway someone who knows music please explain the importance of the fugue talk #please please i wanna know so bad #vnc #vnc spoilers #vnc manga spoilers #vanitas no carte #the case study of vanitas #vnc 59 #🍀 #text

[raamitsu-sos]

I really have no words… honestly this is such a great way to show a character’s constant mental breakdown, like if there’s a way i can be easily apologetic and sympathetic towards a character that looks villainous and violent when they first appeared (cuz at the time we didn’t understand what drove them to be so strong yet so determined to accomplish something) these panels have done it well. there are more to what Astolfo, as a character, feels and it’s way deeper than that.

more of them:

you keep seeing how this boy was going through his trauma all over again and you wished you could hug him, cuz same.

#vnc #vnc 59 #vanitas no carte #case study of vanitas #astolfo granatum #roland fortis #olivier obsidian

[ereyzabethbathory]

#memoir of vanitas #vnc 59 #vanitas no carte #astolfo granatum #vnc #vnc spoilers #manga coloring

[plavi]

So Jun used Bach's "Little" Fugue as an example for fugue in the newest chapter. And it's unavoidably the most well-known example when learning fugues in music, as well as the most known to be played on an organ -- which reminds me of the Alteration Engine in S2, as it was similar in shape of one that Vanitas played to save Chloé. (Feel free to add how it could connect with the rest tho.)

Just for the added flavor, fugue comes from the Latin noun fuga, as well relates to the verb fugere which means "to flee", or fugare "to chase". The reason for this is because fugue in music is played in parts where it starts with one voice playing the main melody (the subject) and later has the second voice enter with the same melody but differs in its pitch and key (the answer) thus complimenting each other and creating a harmony, a third voice can enter later and so on. It's similar to having a conversation on the same idea (subject) but with different views (the answer), and it keeps going back and forth as a chase or fleeing.

In case of Astolfo, which Lady Archiviste comments at the end of ch59, it is his hatred that he keeps chasing after and keeps him going/surviving, but at the same time fleeing from himself as he cannot forgive himself for what he has caused so far due to his trauma.

The different answers can also be what others have weighed in about Astolfo's path, such as Roland wanting him to heal and trying to redirect him from a destructive path he is on while the Church is shaping him into an ultimate weapon against vampires.

So a very cool analogy Jun made with fugue.

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Lady Archiviste: "A fugue of hatred that has forgotten how to stop."

Me: "Just add a coda and it will be okay lol"

#vanitas no carte #vanitas #case study of vanitas #astolfo #Astolfo Granatum #vnc #vnc spoilers #vnc 59

[neversetyoufree]

It's all about the cycles of violence and trauma baybee!!!

#this page is something to the effect of 'a fugue of hatred that forgot how to stop' #'who will play next?' #I'm way too tired to try and parse japanese grammar. so I had to mtl that lmao #hence why I'm not putting the translation in the actual post #but anyway. cycles!! #is it cringe to say I'm currently in the middle of an amv about this exact topic? #vnc spoilers #vnc 59 #vnc #liveblog #ID in alt text

[noes-pillow]

Watching episode 13 after reading ch59 hits DIFFERENT like the antagonism Vani throws at Astolfo over "how much it cost the Granatum family" for him to get his paladin position like oh... it cost them eVerything... Vani oh god no that was mean, babe

#vnc spoilers #vnc 59 #astolfo granatum #vanitas #vanitas no carte #the case study of vanitas #vnc #my post #vnc meta

[raamitsu]

maybe i’m too emotional but i kinda feels dejected when olivier says “hatred can keep people alive” :(

i would’ve said “it’s not fair for someone to live this way, they deserve better” but tbh, the circumstances that they have experienced in life is the source that could boost their motivation or will to live. then, olivier proceeds to say “don’t take that away from him” he’s probably right, however, astolfo has been continuously blanketed in the dark caused by his past traumatic incident (mind you he keeps blaming and loathing himself over and over) and no matter what kind of “source” that drives him to live, he is still a young boy. he’s at the state where he needs a constant care and assurance, also someone who will never give him up despite all that. i truly hope roland will remain by his side, even if he can’t “save” him.

#maybe i really took this panels way too seriously smh im sorry guys #vnc #vanitas no carte #the case study of vanitas #vnc 59 #vnc spoilers #vanitas no carte spoilers

[grelleswife]

Astolfo spoke for us all when he designated Gano as Paladin of Cringe.

#vnc spoilers #vnc 59 #vnc #vanitas no carte #astolfo granatum #gano #dude failed the vibe check spectacularly #coping with the pain via silly posts

[darlington-v]

can anyone direct me towards chapters 59 and 60? i cant find them D:

#vnc 59 #vnc 60 #vanitas no carte #the case study of vanitas

[jemkha]

My face for the entirety of ch 59

#vanitas no carte #the case study of vanitas #vnc #roland fortis #astolfo granatum #vnc 59 #ASTOLFO SAID EFF THEM KIDS

[shizukais]

"It's no good, Olivier. I can't… save this boy. Not ever…"

#anime #manga #vanitas no carte #vnc #vanitas no shuki #the case study of vanitas #roland fortis #ch.59 #vnc spoilers

[raamitsu-sos]

FOR GOD’S SAKE @ MOCHIJUN– NEVER, EVER MAKE THEM GO THROUGH THIS AGAIN 😭

I CAN’T SEE ROLAND LIKE THAT. IT HURTS ME KNOWING HE WAS TRYING HIS BEST TO HELP ASTOLFO, YET, HE’S GIVING UP ON THE SAME BOY HE TRIED TO SAVE. IT FUCKS ME UP OMG :’((((

#but again… i love this #can’t say it properly im suck with english #but yes i like this a lot #vnc #vnc 59 #vnc spoilers #vanitas no carte #vanitas no carte spoilers #case study of vanitas