#trans yjh

[hearthomelesbian]

me when i'm cisgender

#hi. im having a normal time about yoo joonghyuk lately #can you tell from the. everything #orv #yjh #yoo joonghyuk #i should start a tag #trans yjh

[jomeimei421]

one day I will sit down and properly explain how YJH’s narrative is very fitting to be trans-coded, but this is the summary:

#mei talks #I feel like people usually draw on the Breaking the Sky Sword technique and the Punisher for trans YJH #and while that is valid it also has some gaps that could be construed in other ways #all of that only truly comes together under the thematic umbrella that yjh is a person created to transcend the nature of his creation #he will always escape from the constructed roles and perceived limitations placed on him by others #he’s transcendent #he is the Man (as in humanity) of all time #a person always in the act of discovering their own personhood #which is pretty trans coded of him ngl!!!

[dreamsevens]

this years femslash februaries pt1

#im way busier but god forbid i don’t make at least a few drawings #revue starlight #nanamaya #persona 5 #shuake #orv #yoohan #trans yjh yuri . btw #love live #aqours #yohamaru #mahihika #love live superstar #kekekanon #kuukaa #liella #my art #art tag #femslash february

[hellofeternity]

ORV transcends language | how ORV is kind to readers (1.1k words)

the difficulties in analyzing text are already numerous without a language barrier, the way one word can mean 5 things and when you put it in a sentence suddenly it can mean 50 things and put that sentence in a paragraph? go further and put that paragraph in a page? construct a whole world around it, weave it into the fabric, and suddenly you are painting with words.

ORV is a daunting text, it calls and references so many mythos world wide, greek, roman, indian, chinese, japanese, it plays with meaning and intent and uses gaps in our knowledge like weapons, making us extrapolate our own meaning between the sentences, it is a tome of knowledge when it comes to histories and philosophies it feels at times like I will never understand all these things inside it.

One of the difficulties of reading a translated text is that when we analyze a text the authorial intent weighs very heavily in our minds, sure we can immerse ourselves in the world but once we start picking apart at the threads we hit a wall pretty soon when we start asking ourselves "what did the author mean by this?" however in a translated text there is an obvious gap, a game of telephone, did the translator actually capture the authors intent? or are we just reading the translators perception? sadly I don't know korean, and I cant say I have the drive to learn it, as such I know there will forever be a side of ORV that I will never be privy to - however I am bilingual and had the pleasure of reading two translated versions of ORV, an English translation and an Arabic translation, I didn't finish reading the said Arabic translation but a couple things stood out to me when I briefly did ORV is very kind to readers, following along in other stories can seem confusing at times, the pacing might be too fast and you might miss some details in a characters actions, the wording might be too vague and ah damn 20 pages later you realize you don't actually know why the characters are doing what they are doing. A big writing adage that you will see a lot is "show dont tell" and it holds merit, but ORV doesn't subscribe to it, because ORV shows AND tells. ORV built a world around readers and reading, and it makes sure that there is clarity every step of the way on what is happening, first by starting out as a homage to the isekai genre, and not deviating too much at the start, making the readers feel at home in a worldview they are familiar with, systems, leveling, videos games etc, and when it starts deviating it explains things with clarity that no matter how bad the translation is you understand the general intent, and secondly by being VERY blatant about the names of things and having a built in "story" system that is built on common story tropes and names the themes for you! take for example "unbroken faith" and "Blade of faith" both of these are two translated versions of dokja's sword. I will never know which one is closer to the original authorial intent, but I can tell you something, dokja's sword is symbolism to the faith he is wielding. (CH386 vague spoilers) or the entirety of "the great war of saints and demons" being about the concept of good and evil fighting and how kimcom aren't just above being good and evil, they are both. By using story tropes that we are familiar with to explain the complexity of situations in a simple forms you no longer have to worry about losing you readers understandings through language barriers. Every story in the world in every language knows what good vs evil is, every language has the words to explain them. and therein lies the beauty of ORV. But of course this isn't to say translations don't matter, it does speak to the strength of an original texts clarity when it accounts for the big things by making them simplified, but when we get down to the nitty gritty it starts to lose form take for example

"Tell me, you fool. If I continue to regress, will I ever get to meet you again?"

this person here has a great write up explaining the translators thoughts behind this specific line

but it has spawned a lot of debate in the English speaking fandom, as to the strength of its translation, I remember when I first saw someone claiming that its a mistranslation and "you fool" isn't part of the original, my first thought was "and so?" I do not mean to be dismissive to the original text, but I do not exist in a space where I can appreciate it in the original korean, I do not exist in a worldview where I can understand the historical implications of a lot of the characters, and even when I try to research it in English sadly the resources do not exist yet and its even more laughable to think of finding these things in Arabic. (Goryeos first sword doesn't have an English wikipedia page as a clear example) a lot of people have issues with the most popular English fantranslation of ORV - and I can understand why, being bilingual I have a lot of opinions on how a lot of things SHOULD be translated most of the time, and have done my own translation work but as I sit and think about this popular translation I cant help but just feel love for it, it might be lacking to some, it might be inaccurate at times to others, but its just enough for me to paint the gaps in the text with my perceptions, the words used are tied to my affections the Arabic translation of ORV is clunky, it is messy, it doesn't have as much grace as the English translation of ORV does, the words barely string together cohesively, but it has enough clarity, enough intent, and enough love for its readers, to catch their hearts, their attention and their energy

and so I want this to be the first post on this blog because, the author is dead here, not because I buried them, but because the tower of babel fell down a long time ago, and all we have is rubble and each other. a lot of the analysis on this blog will try to be respectful to the korean original wherever it can, however my words will be coming from an anglosphere perspective, and build on other English reader's perceptions of a text translation that a decent amount of people don't think is adequate, but just like ORV is kind to us, we can be kind back, I will quote the most popular version because its what connects us together, and while the authors intent might be lost, we can share our own meanings with each other, and build our own intent from the rubble.

#orv meta #orv #orv analysis #r1864 #a big wall of text for me to go lol orv is queer and yjh is trans coded #but this is tumblr so everyone knows that already #also I still don't actually know what naming convention is correct I've seen many discussions about this #I just go with what is most popular for ease of understanding and ease of reading #also i find the naming thing very funny in english and latin letters because there isnt nearly this much drama about it in the arabic scrip #I just assume its like any other language that doesnt use latin and we are just trying to break english to sound out letters they dont have #i do like how dokjas name sounds like its splitting in the middle in the correct pronunciation 'dok-ja' adds to his duality #and i am sad that gets lost in the latin script sounding

[purgatz]

Behind Every Great Man Is A Great Woman. Behind Every Great Woman Is A Smaller Woman.

#orv #kim dokja #yoo jonghyuk #han sooyoung #trans yjh my beloved

[nekomim1]

Yu Junghyuk transgender. Yu Junghyuk she/her pronoun user.

#orv #omniscient reader's viewpoint #yoo joonghyuk #yjh #i will speak the truth until my dying breath #i mean cmon shes a pro gamer that like the number 1 trans girl profession after coding #just sayin

[via-val]

He says, “My name is Yoo Joonghyuk.” “You’ll have to write that one down for me later,” Kim Dokja smiles, his dark eyes shining with all the stars missing from the night sky, entire constellations for only Yoo Joonghyuk to see. “I bet you chose some real chunni hanja for it.”

Yoo Joonghyuk didn't need to worry. Kim Dokja has it bad for him in every universe, every form of existence.

#dokjoong #joongdok #kdj #yjh #kim dokja #yoo joonghyuk #trans yoo joonghyuk #my writing #ao3 fic rec

[whomstwhowhat]

#thread #fic #joongdok #sangsoo #kdj #yjh #hsy #ysa #kim dokja #yoo joonghyuk #han sooyoung #yoo sangah #trans egg kdj AU

[rubyneo]

doing my best to ignore kdj's transphobia

#slash j i think he just doesn't understand #love that yjh had ONE argument with jhy though and immediately went..hm. yeah. youre a woman. #trans inclusionary radical misogynist ❣️❣️❣️ #cj.txt #orv tag

[hearthomelesbian]

*dresses her in a little outfit* *dresses her in a little outfit* *dresses her i

my layers

#hi. i am having so much fun #i am sort of just putting her in my clothes gjdjs so. if u have any requests feel free to send them in‚ i welcome ideas #ive gotta add some hair clips too #i got the model pose from zoehong on etsy when i reverse image searched a pose i liked on google <3 #elliot art #id in alt text #yjh dress up #< for bl #trans yjh

[ot3]

(orv spoiler talk)

What do you think the meaning of the scene where YJH as the punisher cuts their hair short? SnS could have just had the hair short anyway, if they wanted it that way. So does it have any potential meaning?

i think yjh has Gender and needs to work through it is my take.

#orv spoilers #operation trans yjhs gender.

[betawooper]

im typically indifferent when someone interacts with my posts here or on my art ones in my sideblog, but when it comes to literally anything transfem yoo joo-related and someone likes the post or leaves nice tags, i lose my mind for a while /positive

#like 'oh thank FUCK im not the only one who Understands' #or if any of my besties (mutuals) find it i feel like im getting a thumbs up #thank you for encouraging my brainrot #yall probably dont know what the fuck im talking about #and if you did read orv you probably didnt expect me to fixate so heavily on such a small hc/au #considering the kny rewrite #this is what happens when you give me media thats actually Good #i will be a lil silly about it #its kind of a running joke in my friends server where i grab some random character (usually male) like a squeaky toy #and then trans beam them #and usually its bc it makes shit funnier in their personal narrative to do so #i mean i do take into account the deep sentimental stuff but there is personally not enough content #that makes the transness of a character comedic simply through the affirmation of their gender identity #and idk where the hell i would look for the kind of thing im looking for so im fucking making it myself #im just a silly little guy teehee #sauce reads orv #talking #transfem yjh au #transfem yoo joo au

[arytha]

You think I will get revenge. Right?”

It would be abnormal if I wasn’t scared. I killed the person who was a psychopath in the original novel, even more than Yoo Jonghyuk. Now he suddenly acts friendly with me. I was strange if I wasn’t scared.

“Haha, don’t be afraid. Is it necessary to be wary when we have both already died? I also changed a lot after coming here. I had a lot of time to reflect.”

I was speechless. The Delusional Demon Kim Namwoon reflecting was as impossible as Yoo Jonghyuk becoming a girl. I knew it was a lie but I still activated Lie Detection as a last courtesy for him. In any case, it was a skill that I acquired to use.

[You have confirmed that the statement is true.]

…What? I was taken aback and stared at him. Kim Namwoon cried out, “I’m telling the truth Why don’t you trust what I am saying? Aren’t I living in atonement? I am even thankful that you killed me.”

laughs at kim dokja. also the author is telling us

#trans yjh real #mr orv #mara reads

[badass-queer-couples-battle]

Propaganda:

For Joongdok: "Well first of all Yoo Joonghyuk has a whole arc that is transfem coded as hell (has a power/technique that can technically only be used by women but somehow he can also use it, for a time he even turns into a woman to wield it and it's. Actually just let me get the quote "The ines of the face had changed but it was clearly Yoo Joonghyuk. No, it was even more than before.") that just kinda happens,, and doesn't get brought up again but anyway. Second of all just look at them. You see the vision. Also a bonus observation is that these two often get shipped in a poly ship with Han Sooyoung and whenever I see people make a "regular couple, yaoi couple, yuri couple, I see no difference love is love" meme with them the combination of which pair among these three is which of the categories is always different"

Note: This submission also mentions Han Sooyoung, but I decided to count this polyship submission as guy yuri as well.

"They love each other, they pretend they don't care for each other but all their actions prove they care too much, if you remove someone from the trio then the resulting duo is extremely dysfunctional, as evidenced by more than a million words of canon. Is it technically guy yuri? Well, Han Sooyoung is a woman, but in a way she's one of the guys. Kim Dokja and Yoo Joonghyuk are men, but the text heavily hints that Yoo Joonghyuk is a trans woman who's just too busy and stressed out to transition yet, and Kim Dokja has just never thought about his own gender a single day in his life. They made the world for each other, they went back in time countless times and waged countless wars for each other, they wrote and read and lived a story, their story, for each other and that's what saved them all. The way Han Sooyoung writes Yoo Joonghyuk's story to save Kim Dokja and loses herself in the process, the way Yoo Joonghyuk voluntarily lives the story to the point of losing himself too and even forgetting why he originally decided to do it, the way Kim Dokja read Han Sooyoung's story which was Yoo Joonghyuk's life and that's how he found himself, they all took so much from each other and gave so much of themselves to each other, this is all very yuri."

"they're so yuri you have no idea. they have every staple of a yuri ship. unwavering devotion. waiting dozens or thousands of years for each other. dooming themselves and the world for each other. so much yearning. i also see them genderbent a lot (including inn canon in the case of yjh) and they're right both of these people are women. i genuinely can't even see them strictly as men at this point they're just yjh and kdj and they are yuri do you understand."

"they're so yuri. the abscense of yuri is the presence of yuri etc etc. these two guys are all ABOUT abscenses. also one of them is a part time woman. the other guy is a guy but like in the same way a square is a rectangle. anyway they're so guyyuri to me. bonus points also because they have a mutual girlfriend and when she's present they're girlyaoi but that's not relevant to this specifically"

For Destiel: "There’s got something wrong with her(complementary)"

#guy yuri round 1 #joongdok #destiel #kim dokja #yoo joonghyuk #dean winchester #castiel #omniscient reader's viewpoint #orv #supernatural #(from my admittedly limited knowledge of ORV these don't seem to be that different) #(not sure if superhell is involved but they are apparently very doomed by the narrative) #btw thanks to the person who submitted this pic of Joongdok the vibes are excellent #and i dont even go there yet #guy yuri poll

[king-of-a-kingless-world]

joongdok is just so funny bc its yjh being madly in love w kdj and willing to do legit anything for him without a second thought but also partially hating the fact he likes him but still willing to do ANYTHING fo him while kdj is just oblivious. so so oblivious. and by choice. he chooses to deny the obvious. hes so silly like that. demi-aro demi-ace coded frfr.

if you cant tell i hc dokja extremely self indulgently and therefore he is trans and aroace spec and autistic because i said so.

#orv #omniscent reader #joongdok #kim dokja #yoo joonghyuk

[hsyliker]

yjh coming out would be like “im trans” and yoo mia would be like. thats cool. watch me put this entire skyscraper in my mouth and chew it like a mcdonalds burger isnt that crazy

#orv #sorry i am going through my drafts at insane hours of the morning again #insert that one onion article about bad ways to respond to coming out #mine