#tme/tma guide

[strawberry-crocodile]

TMA? TME? What's that?

This is a question I get a lot on my posts talking about transfeminism; I intend to make this a masterpost with which to send people if they are genuinely curious.

What does TME/TMA mean?

TME- Transmisogyny Exempt

TMA- Transmisogyny Affected

More specifically, TMA is a catchall term for people whose experience being assigned male and transitioning to a feminine gender or presentation has made them the focus and primary target of transmisogyny. TME people are everyone else.

But isn't everyone affected by transmisogyny in some way?

In some way, yes. But TMA people are, by definition, the ones who are the primary target, and the ones who cannot escape it. A trangender man might be mistaken for a trans woman on the street and accosted, yes! However, his interactions with family, the legal system, other queer people, and any partners are going to be affected by transphobia, but not transmisogyny, because these people see him as outside the "MtF" category. This is the core of transmisogyny and why transmisogyny as a term exists separate from transphobia.

Why not use transfeminine/transmasculine?

Where I'm standing I'd like to be able to use those words with the rough understanding that they are related to one's relationship to assigned gender and transmisogyny, but there are people who do not feel that this adequately describes their identity (ie transfem people who were AFAB). I'm taking these people on good faith, but I still want to be able to discuss what TME/TMA is discussing.

Isn't this just reinventing the gender binary?

It's describing a preexisting one. The White/POC dichotomy is not "reinventing race science", it's describing how the society built on that lie affects people. Someone who uses the word "nonblack" probably knows that racial categories are artificial, but is still affected by anti-black racism, and deserves the language to talk about it. Understand TME/TMA the same way.

Also, to be clear, cisgender men are TME. It is not just restating your AGAB.

What about intersex AFAB people?

This is where I am going to bow my head and admit that I do not know, exactly. It's undeniable that there are similarities in the bodies of TMA people and a cis woman with PCOS, just for example, and that the hatred that such bodies attract are going to affect her. However, it's also true that having been assigned, raised, and legally defined as a "female" is going to provide a different set of problems. If someone wants to have a genuine discuss about this, my ask box and messages are open- however, if you are not yourself AFAB and intersex, I do not care your opinion on the matter.

If it has so many problems, why use it?

Every term used to discuss marginalization has problems. "White", for example, is a category that can include or exclude Ashkenazi jewish people depending on context and usage; the border between cis and trans is one that has edge cases. But these terms are important for describing oppression and helping marginalized people! It would be absurd to completely abolish them, wouldn't it? It's the same with TME/TMA.

I fundamentally disagree that this category of people you're talking about deserve or need a word to describe their oppression, or that they have a unique relationship to that oppression.

Well. You're wrong, so

#tme/tma #transmisogyny #tme ppl #dalucaray #tme/tma guide #tme/tma reference

[trans4trans]

i brought this up to my wife, who is a trans woman and told me i should post this, but speaking as a tme trans man, i do feel like majority of tmes on this side of tumblr don’t actually take the time to think about how they can and often do wield transmisogyny on this site. like yeah we have those tmes on here who have “terfs dni” in their bio and think saying queer is a slur means you’re a terf but there’s tmes on here who know better than that and understand the tme/tma labels and understand that “transandrophobia” is just men’s rights activist bullshit that trans men use to be transmisogynistic but still haven’t really taken the time to think about their own actions and how they’ve engaged in harassment campaigns against trans women or how they continue to engage in harassment campaigns. many don’t even know how to recognize transmisogynistic language in posts spread around on here.

what i’ve noticed from being in these spaces (and what many trans women have already pointed out) is that there’s this sort of performance going on of being supportive of trans women and loving trans women that’s expressed through reblogging simple but transfem positive posts, for example, the one about making it easier for trans women, but in reality there is a tendency to be extremely selective about which trans women these tmes want to “make it easier” for. i said this in a previous post already, but a lot of tmes will reblog a post saying it should be easier for trans women and then the next day make it harder for them by participating in a harassment campaign against a trans woman. i’ve seen many of them reblog that post of transfeminist readings but perpetuate the exact behaviors listed out in one of the readings titled the abuser’s guide to transmisogyny (aka “how to cancel a trans girl”) by wyatt fractal starlight (please read it if you haven’t already, and please check out that list from @/molsno), which leads me to believe that many just hit reblog and did not actually take the time to read what was shared.

to me it seems like many really don’t care about understanding transmisogyny beyond a surface level, most definitely because as tmes we’re not affected by it. but even though we’re not affected by transmisogyny, that shouldn’t make us less concerned about learning more about it and our privilege as tmes. we owe trans women so much support and we talk about supporting trans women but this behavior continues to be prevalent and its just extremely frustrating and tiring to see again and again.

#disclaimer: i am not perfect by any means but i am actively working towards expanding my understanding of transmisogyny and transfeminism #and how transmisogyny is wielded in online spaces. i am not free from criticism though #transmisogyny #also if theres any mistakes within this post please do lmk. nervously hits post #this one is okay to rb but if i notice any tmes acting up i’ll turn off rbs

[sexisdisgusting]

tme/tma bs allows TIMs to make sex-based social/political analyses & framing females as the class that oppresses them because of their maleness. This MRA framework is rapidly institutionalizing itself like i've seen some pretty important universities including this tme/tma crap in their language guides !!!

I'm astounded by the number of feminists who accept this MRA theory without being able to recognize it for what it is. Feminist threat detection has been so wiped out on the left

hey anonita? can i give both of your hands kisses and also your brain because you have put into words what ive been fucking thinking and im going WILD rn

the instant i read your ask i started losing my mind because THIS. IS. FUCKING. ITTTTTTTTTTTT... THIS IS IT!!!! ITS SO FUCKED UP AND SINISTER THEYRE REALLY TRYING TO TURN FEMALES INTO THE OPPRESSIVE CLASS HOW DONT MORE PEOPLE SEE HOW FUCKED UP THIS IS!!*!?@,@?#?!?@

*pins like 50 of these to you*

THANK YOU. FOR THIS BEAUTIFUL MESSAGE. YOU'RE SO SMART ITS UNREAL

#asks #anon asks

[bleachellie]

handy guide to trans terminology for pride month!! 😊

mtf = moth to flame

ftm = foot to mouth

tme = tull metal alchemist (other ppl Swear they thought this meant “the mandela effect” but they’re actually incorrect and probably misremembering)

tma = the magnus archives

“e” = ecstasy

“t” = tumblrino

[kahmeokiblog]

Wow. This mra theory is spreading and institutionalizing itself rapidly. The universities of Massachusetts and Pennsylvania have both published documents (language guides) on their websites that included TME/TMA. This is an endorsement of the idea that female privilege (''tme privilege'') exists

Edit //

It's from a training course civil servants are being sent on by the Scottish Government. The second link of the list ''the trans language primer'' has a section about tme/tma.

#trans #misogyny #afab #radfem #transgender #feminism #radical feminist #radical feminism #radical feminist safe #radical feminist community #radblr

[azuremist]

✧ — My favorite original posts

Dead Plate 3DS theme

Web weaving (Dead Plate)

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On Marina in “Suffer No Fools” (Splatoon)

Pearlina as a princess x knight dynamic (Splatoon)

Haruka has an intellectual disability (and why that matters) (MILGRAM)

Needy Streamer Overload anime

Marina’s Dev Diary #8 (Splatoon)

“TME” and “TMA” are intersexist

Marina’s Dev Diary #1 (Splatoon)

Let Agent 8 rest (Splatoon)

The Furret walk being recognizing by Pokémon’s YouTube (Pokemon)

Papicoco’s wedding armor (Flip Flappers)

Trial 2 thumbnail scenes (MILGRAM)

Papika in episode 7 (Flip Flappers)

The balcony scene (Cherry Magic)

Papika really loves Cocona (Flip Flappers)

Guilty Kotoko propaganda (MILGRAM)

All references in Shiver’s Frostyfest dialogue (Splatoon)

Intermission animation (I’m In Love With The Villainess)

Kieran being 14 years old (Pokemon)

Hopeless romantic aromantic Mahiru (MILGRAM)

‘Alterhumanity and Autism’ follow-up survey

Kieran never hates the MC (Pokemon)

Bisexual Pokemon characters (Pokemon)

Kieran’s eye shines return (Pokemon)

How you would fall if you were an angel

The parallels for each prisoner pair (MILGRAM)

Lumity x “My Love Is Mine All Mine” (The Owl House)

Doki Doki Literature Club’s twist would have been better if Monika was a male character (DDLC)

Amane, Kazui, and how your childhood follows you (MILGRAM)

Panels from “The Bravest Prince” (Adventure Time)

An analysis of Marshall Lee’s nightmare form (Adventure Time)

Gumlee development (Adventure Time)

Princess Bubblegum vs Prince Gumball vs Gary Prince (Adventure Time)

Bubbline and Gumlee parallels (Adventure Time)

A resource for making your personal site accessible

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Analyzing ‘(Not) a Devil’

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The original meaning of hanahaki

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AO3’s old racist mod

What is and isn’t menhera

Transphobe / TERF blocklist

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Ships that are just teenage boys are good

My list of “internet archeology for old fandom drama / events” video essays

Every OT3 has… (LEGO Monkie Kid)

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“Non-man” is a bad phrase

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The Golden Guard as a metaphor for masking (The Owl House)

My problem with “Thanks To Them” (The Owl House)

Bisexual Hunter is canon (The Owl House)

The androcentric desire hypothesis

Analyzing the themes of ‘Bad End Theater’

Canon autistic representation in cartoons

Male/female multigender advocacy

Religious themes to describe queer experiences

On the 2020 Moomin revival

Being a grimwalker as a trans metaphor (The Owl House)

Disability education resources

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That one time I predicted that Entrapta was autistic and made an analysis post on it immediately after season 1’s release (She-Ra)

#masterlist #blog info #azure does a thing

[hungerofhadarr]

Love how the new thing to use agaisnt transwomen is calling all of them interphobic when they talk about the term transwoman and tme / tma … I can promise you transwomen online talking about tranmisogyny and their experiences and the misuse of their identities are not interphobic . Here is a quick guide to determine if you’ re still so up your own ass about it

1) Are you Intersex or are you Endosex ?

If you are not intersex ( aka endosex ) then drop the topic . Intersex people have become bargaining chips and what if scenarios in this and it doesn’ t take into account that we are Real People and can Talk for Ourselves . You cannot just bring us up to try and paint every transwoman online as cruel and bigoted . You are a transmisogynist and also interphobic if you start this shit btw

2) Are they actually being interphobic or are you trying to defend yourself ?

When transwoman is talking about afab transwomen , do you think she means transwomen who have transitioned or intersex people who have afab on their birth certificates but were not seen as women growing up and transitioned to female later in life ? Or is she talking about people who grew up being seen as women and then , later in life , chose to use the term transwoman to mean “ trans and feminine “ or “ my gender is soooo impossible to understand !!! “ ( HINT ! use critical thinking here . )

3) What are you trying to gain ?

Seriously , what are you looking to gain ? When you start these accusations , what do you want ? If someone makes a vent post that isn’ t worded like a perfect essay thesis , are you really the bigger person for making these accusations ? If there is no trace of her having any interphobic posts or reblogs or anything , why are you going to accuse her of it for One Vent Post . If you made a vent post and someone started wrongfully accusing you to either protect their egos or to try and undermine your word , it would suck , wouldn’ t it ? Imagine how she feels .

#hi . #sorry I got upset lol

[happysadyoyo]

So here’s the thing about TERFs

They’re about as much of a monolith as the trans community. 

Meaning that they have a ton of little sects that disagree with each other and cannibalize each other and can fight each other just as strongly as they fight trans people. 

This means not every individual TERF is going to believe the same thing as another. In fact many of them will not agree with what we consider General TERF Rhetoric. 

The problem is that they, like the trans community, have one strong agenda. 

Their agenda is to destroy trans people specifically because they think trans people are upholding the patriarchal standards on womanhood. And see, TERFs are radfems; they seriously think the world would be a better place if it was woman, not man on top. 

And as much as I just said that not every TERF agrees with each other, radfem has its roots in excising womanhood from manhood entirely. It’s separatism plain and simple. 

I made this post a few weeks ago. It’s now the biggest post on my blog and brought a lot of my followers here, I’m sure. Here’s the thing. 

I made that post to talk about issues that trans masculine people have with TERFs specifically because I was getting tired of the argument “trans men who use the word transandrophobia only talk about trans women.” 

TERFs of course found this and have taken particular issue with “if you’re white, they want you to produce more white babies.”  Because, you see, TERFs think they care first and foremost about women’s bodily autonomy. They tend to be pro-choice, and a lot of them are loudly proud of not wanting children themselves. There’s a lot of nonwhite TERFs too, so of course they’re extra confused by this statement. 

The thing is -- TERFs have locked arms with conservative politicians. In the US, especially since Trump but pre-Trump as well, that means white supremacists. I beg you, google American politicians who cite JK Rowling as inspiration for their conservative policies. Rowling has openly embraced being called a TERF. She is one of their loud and clear talking heads. 

Once you realize that TERFs are siding with conservative politics, you can begin to understand why I said that TERFs care only about white wombs. Once you look at the fearmongering around young AFAB people potentially sterilizing their bodies, you can see that even though TERFs claim that they don’t define womanhood by reproductive parts, they really truly do. 

They say, as a majority, that womanhood is femaleness. When you ask them what that means, they’ll say something about DNA. When you point out they don’t know their DNA, they may waffle a bit and try to fight back but it all goes back to what they can see. 

That’s why some cis women who are typically TME suddenly become TMA. Some TERF and transphobe saw them enter a bathroom and they didn’t “pass” well enough to not get beaten up. 

So, to put a final, more nuanced hat on this particular point, no, I do not think most/any of the TERFs who have seen my post actively want to force white trans men to get pregnant and carry white babies. I also don’t think that the black and brown TERFs are intentionally hurting themselves with their worldview. 

I think they got sucked into a movement with open and obvious ties to white supremacy, and I think they genuinely have such trauma and hatred for the world around them currently that they see this as the only way forward and think they can disavow the parts of TERFism that they don’t like. 

But the problem is it’s not like how there are trans criminals. Collectively as a community, trans people know there are Bad People who happen to be trans. It’s not the gotcha that conservatives, transphobes, and TERFs think it is. But the TERFs who align themselves with conservatives, who are racist, sexist, etc -- they’re the ones who get the air time, who help guide the laws to what they want. And the people that get hurt are not just trans people. 

So I hope this is a good addendum to my original post. Thank you. 

[nothorses]

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A chaotic table of contents for posts I made (mostly) & reference sometimes, but can never find when I need to. Because nobody can stop me!

If you're here because some asshole told you I used to be a TERF, here's the context.

My Shop - Handmade fine art prints

Transmasc Discussion

"Transandrophobia" Primer

Identity vs. Position

Testosterone is not a “violent” hormone

Masculinity is not inherently toxic & Femininity can be toxic

Cis manhood is not the golden standard of manhood

On Transandrophobia

Transandrophobia on Tumblr

Transmasc experiences in statistics, Follow-up., Additional follow-up

How transandrophobia works  

Twitter thread on transmascs by @Azure_Husky

In the Wake of Elliot Page

J.K. Rowling and Trans Men

Hating transmascs is still transphobia

“Man hating” feminism hurts transmascs

TERFs love it when transmascs and transfems hate each other

Weaponizing feminist talking points against trans men

Common arguments against transandrophobia

“Trans-Inclusive” Radfems

Building Transmasc Community

Why Are We Silencing Each Other?

Yes, we know misandry doesn’t exist.

Trans Men & Male Privilege

Transfems, Transmisogyny, and the Fight to Recognize Transandrophobia

Other Discussion

On “Transunitism”

Queer History & Resources

“Transgender” and what it used to mean

Cis people fucking with gender is good for trans people too

TME/TMA’s “Identity = Oppression” problem

TME/TMA & Perception

TME/TMA Origins & “AFAB Privilege”

What Were Baeddels?

Common TERF talking points

Exclusionist Tactics 

“Kill all Men” & White Feminism

Yuri On Ice & Queerness

Interview With An Ex-Radfem

Hot Allostatic Load & Callout Culture

Competition vs. Obligation

On M-Spec Lesbians

Joan of Arc & “Crossdressing”

Resources

Transmascs of Color Rec List

Transmasc Creators Masterlist

TransTape: A Guide, (Don’t buy it on Amazon), Kinetic tape isn’t always cheaper

Types of Top Surgery Incisions  

My Top Surgery Experience

Transmascs in History

Baeddelism

Let’s Talk About Baeddels (Part 1) (Medium ver.) (Video reading) (Original Tumblr post)

When Baeddels Took Them (Part 2) (Medium ver.)

Brushes with Baeddels (Part 3) (Medium ver.)

I’ll be updating this when I think to!

[iibislintu]

(edit: NOTE: any snarky anon asks on this topic will be deleted.)

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tme, tma is a bit silly really, just another way of asking if you were born with a penis or what, well meaning i guess but another essentialist binary in truth*

transmisogyny affects everybody if you think about it at all

also if you’re wondering, i’m tmnt

(*quick guide to essentialist binaries: fuck them)

#tme #tma #fuck the binary #gender essentialism