#they obv have light skinned privilege (as do I) but. yeah

[rebellum]

The whole transandrophobia discussion thing is weird bc it feels like it's a bunch of poc and jewish trans people being like "here are my experiences of how specifically being MASCULINE had affected me, and the discrimination and violence I experienced based on that. And here is how that relates to me being a racial/ethnic minority"

And then a few loud white trans people going "ohhh you wanna be oppressed so bad you *slur*. This is why there aren't any poc in your movement it's because REAL poc understand intersectionality"

#hot take white culturally christian or athiest leftests do not properly interpret white jewish ppl #like as a poc i and other poc understand that white jewish ppl often get racial privilege #but a) not always b) they experience oppression based off of their ethnicity #idk from my perspective it seems like white goyim either see jewish ppl as 'the disgusting exotic enemy' or 'basically WASPS but they #wanna feel special' #with no nuance. no recognition #look maybe this next part is bc i didnt grow up with jewish ppl and therefore didnt know until I was 18/19 that jewish ppl can count as #white. but like. idk how to say this. i dont wanna speak over white jewish ppl. but like. #jewish ppl that have obvious jewish features (whether Ashkenazi facial features OR they dont have those but wear eg kippahs) #arent like. white. idk pls correct me if this is antisemitic or incorrect or something. #but like. light skinned =/= white obviously. #i just struggle to see how my bestfriend with her lovely dark eyes and curls and nice nose counts as 'white' when ppl call her the k slur #across the street. ykwim? #like white doesnt mean light skinned. it means 'part of the in-group of white ppl' #like my ex who is white and jewish? yeah hes white. if he didnt wear his necklace then goyim wouldnt know. you know #like obvs he still experiences ethnic oppression but he doesnt experience racial oppression #but other ppl with more prominent eg ashkenazi (im singling them out bc most jewish ppl here are ash.) like i dont GET how they have racial #privilege.

[jackienautism]

Literally hate that dedue, the only dark skin team mate you get is so sub servient to a white male character and I feel like no talks about this,

hmm you're. absolutely right. i never actually thought abt it like that before. it really DOES give off white savior type shit... i know dimitri's whole thing is trying to get dedue to FINALLY see him as an equal, but youre right. the implications of it are very... bad. esp when it couldve been ANY other character in the game, but they chose to pick the black man? esp ESP when lorenz in one of the beginning chapters says that some nobility bullshit probably is even worse than slavery? like. lets be for real

also? i never rly thought abt it until now but like. of COURSE the regions outside of fodlan (almyra, duscur, etc) all have some sort of .... conflict for lack of a better word w/ the white man from the church right? of course theres people LIKE ingrid in faerghus that disdain people of duscur due to what happened. and of course people of the alliance are weary of almyrans too. LIKE. of COURSE realistically racism is going to exist, but to have both places have such huge conflicts and be portrayed as the "Evil" towards the primarily white area is a bit ............. bad. it's bad. fire emblem needs to be better. adding one person of color per house isnt going to magically make the game's own racism disappear. doesn't matter how much "discussion" they have surrounding it either, theres still bias and prejudice seen in the game itself

like they rly gave petra an irish last name? making people doubt that brigid is most certainly inspired by polynesia? they clearly did their research when designing her, so why didnt they do more when naming? it just doesn't make any sense.

and with shamir? she's from dagda but... what IS dagda meant to be? they just say shes from a foreign place and refuse to elaborate. but i suppose that's just petty of me to bring up, its just somethign that's always bothered me

and you're right that no one really talks about it. /I/ certainly havent seen much discussion surrounding it, but then again i dont necessarily go out of my way to search for it. but yeah. it deserves to be criticized

and maybe all that i talk abt doesnt even matter or its not a big deal or whatever but like. whatever man. i sometimes just want people of color to just exist in my silly fantasy video game. without Racism and the change everyone has to go through being their like. main arc

#mine #text #asks #anon #fire emblem #fire emblem three houses #does any of this make sense? sorry if it doesnt #and sorry if its not even something to make a fuss over. i just. idk #i love fire emblem so much but they have such a long way to go lmao #esp seeing that their company ISNT white! #they obv have light skinned privilege (as do I) but. yeah #they included japanese characters quite nicely in fates #but of course once it comes to the darker skinned characters. all hell breaks loose #my FE tag #FE #FE3H #my thoughts

[keshetchai]

I don't know how to phrase this question exactly but please understand that I'm being genuine! ... Do white jews and white converts suffer from anti/semitism? Because I'm not sure if it's a racist issue,,, or if Jewish is even an ethnicity?? ahh i have a lot to learn. I hope this isn't insensitive. thank you

Um I’m a lil low on spoons rn but I’ll try to just…generally answer and other Jewish followers can add on?:

1.) Jews are members of an ethnoreligion. Meaning that the majority of Jews are ethnically/genetically related to each other, but that ethnic group also shares a religion. The exception is generally speaking, converts, who may not be ethnically Jewish. There’s a lot more nuance there but I’m just saying the basics. But yeah you can be ethnically Jewish. 2.) Jewish people existed as an ethnoreligious group prior to the modern idea of races/race in general. Uhhh…basically the concept of human races comes after the concept of a unified Jewish people/identity, afaik. 2a.) Related: early “race” classifications tended to do….weird things! (Hello that’s because racism, obvs) but like in the 18th century a lot of white Europeans classed a lot of MENA people as “caucasoid” - actually let’s be super clear: racist ass 18th century Germans said this. And Caucasoid was divided into Aryan, Semitic, and Hamitic. So…Europeans, West Asians (“Middle Eastern”), and North Africans, plus some of India. …conveniently encompassing anywhere that had been Ancient Rome, Egypt, or Greece, basically.

That dude ranked light skinned people at the top of his model and everyone else below - even within “Caucasoid” as a race. KEEP THAT RACIST GERMAN GUY IN MIND. Uh…then other ppl came in and…edited that model.

Most racial categories have some kind of system where people are divided into European, Asian, African, and American (as in Native), plus possibly something that covers Oceania (one person called it the “Malay” race). We….generally speaking have not really gone very far beyond that, at least not in the US, where MENA people are still auto-categorized on the census as “white”. (And because the US government doesn’t…really account for mixing of indigenous ppl with colonizers well, most latinxs are forced to mark themselves as white Hispanics/Latinos if they’re not also API or black or registered native, regardless of whether or not they are say, European-white and Latino or not.)

ANYWAYS throughout history Jewish people have been persecuted for being Jewish and different, and therefore as the concepts of races were developed, the ethnicity of Jews played into negative treatment of Jewish people.

3.) by the time Nazi Germany rolled around, that racist 18th century German guy? They basically said “Look at the caucasoid race. The darker Slavic ones are inferior, and the Semitic people (read: the Jews and only the Jews) and Rroma (who fit under that loose - we include India and west Asia definition) are poisoning the race.” so caucasoid or not by anyone’s older and equally racist definitions, they were not Aryans (the very same Germans that 18th century dude talked about being the height of superiority) and they basically claimed that Jewish and Rromani people were vermin/a racial plague/going to be the downfall of the race, etc etc.

I don’t really know how to best explain this atm but basically whether or not Jews were or are caucasoid or white was an incredibly moot point in Nazi Germany. It did not matter.

4.) Antisemitism was and has always been about hatred of Jewish people, regardless of their skin color or tone or regardless of whether or not “Semitic” was classified under “caucasoid” at any point. White Jews are the victims of antisemitism because antisemitism is about hating Jewish people (even if they are caucasoid, because you have to understand that if someone is using those old and racist terms, they genuinely believe Jewish people are going to be the demise of the Aryans, whom they believe to be the superior Caucasoid people/the “whites” vs the…other ethnic ones).

5.) Basically all Jews - even converts - are the targets of antisemitism because it’s aimed at anyone Jewish.

White converts will usually not be the victims of antisemitism aimed at the “ethnic” features of Jews, but they can and do still face antisemitism.

6.) white (usually xtian) people, historically speaking, may see some assimilated “white” Jews and treat them like white people (until they feel like not treating them like white people, in which case they will stop), but white Nazis will never consider “white” Jews as anything but Jewish.

Since race is a social construct: some Jews can ascribe to whiteness but may have that taken away from them at any point by white supremacist/neonazi groups; Jews are “Caucasian” but can never be Aryan “white”, only “Semitic” and antisemitism means hating Jews; Caucasian is not synonymous with “white” or occupying the status of being “white” in society since plenty of MENA people, Indians, and Jews are not light skinned and aren’t treated as if they are “white” in society; but all white people are Caucasian; and when people say “white” they usually MEAN white as in “looks Aryan/light skinned” but “white” doesn’t actually play out that way socially, and includes non-Aryan but sufficiently light skinned people; Jews might be able to be “white” but they’re never “Aryan” and white supremacists/neonazis care about “Aryan white” specifically.

So like even if some ethnic Jews have white skin and occupy relative white privilege (over darker Jews even) in today’s world, they can still be murdered by white supremacists for not being white.

White converts remain the same race and ethnicity they were previously, but can still be targeted by antisemitism.

#shoah tw