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azural83 · 2 years
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They completely missed the point of sophie's character
Sophie was an arrogant,selfish and a narcissistic person behind her sweet facade who didn't believe herself to be evil,who did terrible things including murder as her anger grew. movie sophie on the other hand? She's the "posessed victim" that the mainstream seems to be obsessed with these days
Making her an outcast with agatha was an odd choice,sophie didn't want to get away from a town who hated her,she was tired of her normal life and wanted to go the school of good because she thought that's what she deserves
She did good things (including being friends with agatha) just to change her school not because that she was a nice person,she discovered her evilness and powers on her own not because of rafal (who literally was supposed to remain in the bts and not let Sophie fail instead of brainwashing her) we as audience do know that she really is evil deep down and why rafal saw her potential despite her denial. The movie makes you wonder that what did rafal even see in her? She's a very sympathetic person in the film who goes through hell
She is a great friend towards aggy and only turned against her because of rafal's influence,the scene where she accuses agatha for stealing everything from her feels cheap because there is no build up;she was simply upset and seemed to forgive agatha while reading her letter,while in the book we saw how her jealousy grew over the time to the point she attacked everyone several times and killed all of the wolves and fairies but she barley hurts anyone in the movie,heck one of the first signs of her evilness is when she drowns the beast after he cuts her hair,but in the movie it was lady lesso for some reason and it only makes us feel sorry for sophie. Completely erasing it's meaning. A weak attempt to make her seem like a "bad bitch" in the aftermath when we were supposed to see her true colors
Sophie was such a complicated and complex character but they managed to remove her agency in her own story
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I'm rereading book 1 after watching the movie because nostalgia and one of the earliest things that I just can't figure out why they would change is no one in Galvadon knowing about the school/it being a vague legend sort of thing, when the Literal first lines of the book are
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In the book, the school for good and evil is not only a very real thing, it's an established part of their culture. The townsfolk figured out many generations ago that, every four years, two kids would go missing, one "good" and one "bad", and in the following years after mysterious fairy tale books would be delivered to the village bookstore, depicting the missing children in their illustrations.
I just don't understand why that is something they would change for the movie since it makes no difference for the runtime, if they were already going to spend that time in Galvadon they might as well have shown us some incredibly interesting scenes from the begining of the book, like how the whole village prepares for the night the School Master comes for the children in desperate panic, including the children themselves terrified of being taken away from their families. Like:
Handsome ones had their hair lopped off, teeth blackened, and clothes shredded to rags; homely ones were scrubbed, swathed in bright colors, and fitted with veils. Mothers begged the best-behaved children to curse or kick their sisters, the worst were bribed to pray in the church, while the rest in line were led in choruses of the village anthem: “Blessed Are the Ordinary.”
Fear swelled into a contagious fog. In a dim alley, the butcher and blacksmith traded storybooks for clues to save their sons. Beneath the crooked clock tower, two sisters listed fairy-tale villain names to hunt for patterns. A group of boys chained their bodies together, a few girls hid on the school roof, and a masked child jumped from bushes to spook his mother, earning a spanking on the spot. Even the homeless hag got into the act, hopping before a meager fire, croaking, “Burn the storybooks! Burn them all!” But no one listened and no books were burned.
I honestly believe that the first few scenes in Galvadon from book 1 are some of the best writing Soman has done, and it's sad that we didn't even get to see Sophie's father boarding up her window only for her to tear it off and wait for the School Master with her bags packed, which is not only hilarious but it really adds to her character imo. In the books, Sophie has known about the school and wanted to go there all her life. It's not some impulsive idea coming from a rumor that she learned about that very same day, it's a very present part of their day-to-day life! And it would've cost them no extra screen time at all to show even a little bit of that, it's actually quite sad.
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defsiarte · 1 year
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read the school for good and evil. PLEASE.
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okayclaryfray · 11 months
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SGE FANART
My lovessss<3
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ryhoferu · 3 months
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So, I have a lot of different little things that I want to post, so I decided to divide them into small groups(yes theyre all about sge)
And lets start with cloooothes
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Sketches for Sophie's dresses based on pinterest photos. The first is for "I'm a princess, I'm a good girl" period, and the second is for "I'm a bad beach, and I like it" period(or just first and fourth book)
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+ some ideas of uniforms for good school girls (probably need to decide on clothes for boys too)
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azulasstuff · 11 months
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Leonora:I lost Sophie
Clarissa:How did you LOSE Sophie?!
Leonora:To be fair, she is very small.
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blanchettsisla · 1 year
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Why can’t a girl boss do anything in a film without it being for a man? YES. I’M TALKING ABOUT THE SCHOOL FOR GOOD AND EVIL. Lady Lesso is CLEARLY a lesbian. She literally said Dovey was the love of her life in the books (they weren’t just friends let’s be honest) WHY WOULD SHE BE INTO RAFAL?? SHE IS A LESBIANNNN.
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lesbian-in-leather · 5 months
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Gone back to reading SGE (I'm part way through book 4) and look,,, I know this is a controversial topic in the fandom and I am mayhaps going to be swinging at a hornets nest, but this is literally the only fandom where I (and please hear me out) understand the incest shippers
Because like, Soman does queer-code the fuck out of Sophie and Agatha. And yes, canonically they are sisters! However, he doesn't write them as sisters. They didn't grow up as sisters, hell, they didn't even know until the end of book three. And even after that point, he still writes them with most queer-baity shit!
He is constantly having other characters make jokes or comments about how they're girlfriends, or they were "just off kissing somewhere" (Hort legit says this in book four). That's not how people talk about sisters! At all! And Sophie and Agatha never even bother to address it. Like, sorry, but if someone made a joke about me and my sister dating or, god forbid, having snuck off to make out? You best believe I would be gagging, like wtf?? Who says that??
And it's not like the others don't know, because ~everyone's read the Tale of Sophie and Agatha~! So why does he write them like this! Right from the first book, they've been in this weird in-between of "they're fighting over a boy" but they also have this... weirdly fruity tension. Sophie's dance with Agatha at the No Ball, saying Agatha is "hers" or some shit ("to get at Tedros" but like... weird flex Soph), Agatha saving Sophie with True Love's Kiss... right on the mouth. I do not kiss my sister on the mouth. And yeah, they didn't know at the time, but like, Soman (theoretically) should have known, and it's a weird Luke-and-Leia-esque vibe to put in there. Throughout every book, there are a thousand little moments—I mean the whole three-way true love thing! Because yes, you can make the argument that true love doesn't have to be romantic..... except everyone else keeps treating it like it's only a romance thing. Also, if it doesn't have to be romantic, then why can there only be one???
So yeah, idk, I just feel like there are so many other plot points in this series that make less than no sense and it constantly contradicts itself anyway so... if people wanna say "fuck that" to the sister reveal and ignore it in favour of so much canon queer-coding then... yeah. Not opposed
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soulsintheashes · 10 months
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saw the school for good and evil movie about a week ago. i'll post a short review later but i saw this post and it reminded me of sophie
@twinkdrama
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dovessoiscanon · 1 year
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I found that bees scene in SGE too funny, it was like:
Rafal: *Rocks up after 200 years in a dumbass bee costume*
Lesso: "oh my fucking god he's finally showed up"
Sophie: *Confused*
Lesso: "This is the moment I finally get rewarded for carrying all evil on my back for the last 200 years, thank the jesus"
Rafal: "You're doing wonderfully..."
Lesso: "THANK you, finally some goddamn recognition..."
Rafal: "SOPHIE..."
Lesso: "oh bitch you better be joking."
AHAHAHAH AND THEN...
Rafal: *is not joking, leaves back out the window*
Lesso: *turns to the bitch that upstaged her solid 200 years of dedication*
Sophie, still confused: "who the fuck even was that..."
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Sophie in a school for evil staff meeting: Hello everyone, today we will be talking about…
Hort, mouthing out her notes to her: Building loyalty.
Sophie: Killing royalty
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azural83 · 2 years
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You know the whole "women can't be evil on their own and their actions happen because of men" thing? Yeah. That's exactly what they did to sophie in the sge movie
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Look, the school for good and evil movie was a shit show in many ways, but one of their main fuckups was their portrayal of Sophie becoming a witch, shown in an incredibly antisemitic way: when she transforms into an “ugly evil” type person, her nose grows and hooks. Not only is this portrayal of witches inherently antisemitic from its earliest roots, but it wasn’t even in the books.
In the books, her hair falls out, boils form on her skin and her eyes turn to this faded grey colour, while her hands turn to gnarled claws. Her transformation is more about becoming sort of monstrous in the books, unlike the movies where she becomes this caricature of a witch that doesn’t even look ugly. But calling her ugly when she looks fine just makes the movie look incredibly antisemitic and stupid
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zelda-donovanboat · 2 years
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SGE Jewish headcanons because I Can (and because Yom Kippur is tomorrow)
Agatha - Probably devours challah bread  - Has a mini golem figurine in her room in Gavaldon, on top of her pile of storybooks - Favorite holiday is Purim because people are supposed to be able to confuse the “Good” guys and the “Evil” guys and it’s the only time she isn’t seen as inherently Evil Sophie - Learned her mom was Jewish and latched onto it (Stefan isn’t) - Really likes the one story of Soloman involving the baby - “Lign in drerd un bakn beygl.” Callis - Knew Agatha didn’t want a bat mitzvah (too many people, too big an event, too much spotlight on her) so instead she saved money for Agatha’s 12th birthday and made her favorite foods (latkes, matzo ball soup, and homemade challah). - Uses lots of Jewish/Yiddish slang (schelp, klutz, kvetch) Vanessa - Loves eating apples in honey for Rosh Hashana - Always said Sophie took after her in terms of her “chutzpah”  Lesso - Has a mezuzah on her office door (which she moves to Dovey’s old office door in TLEA. Dovey never moves it from her office after Lesso dies)
Hester -  (HER MOTHER'S STORY IS ANTISEMITIC PROPAGANDA BUT IM USING IT IN MY FAVOR) - Really likes halvah - And also marror  Guinevere  - I MEAN COME ON IM RIGHT - She was definitely so excited when Tedros started asking questions and stuff after TLEA, like she definitely continues to explain things to him with the utmost patience and cooks for every holiday and NO ONE makes hamantash like she does Tedros - His mother is Jewish but his father isn’t - He was indifferent to/opposed to learning about it for the longest time, but after TLEA started to get curious and interested - Agatha had shown him her golem figurine in AWWP and he asked Guinevere to help him make a new one for his and Agatha’s room in The Camelot Years. He holds it when under particular stress as King. - Least favorite holiday is Purim because he already has enough trouble distinguishing Good from Evil
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ryhoferu · 9 months
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I have finished the third book (a while ago actually)
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And I want to belive Sophie will not betray anyone ever again after everything that happen. She will peacefully live by herself being a good dean for her school.
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azulasstuff · 11 months
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Clarissa:*looks for something*
Sophie:What are you looking for?
Clarissa:Generally your dean's attention, but now just my ring
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