#sge spoilers

[atrenchcoatfilledwithbeees]

The way that the sge movie seems to paint Sophie as a victim pisses me off to the nth degree

She is supposed to be evil and vain and looking down on everyone from the beginning. She looks down on Belle for feeding the homeless woman in the square because the woman was fat, she refuses to eat the food Honora makes for her despite her making Sophie’s favourite because she hates the woman. She makes friends with Agatha initially only as a good deed, treating Agatha as a means to her own ends and not as her own person. She feels no guilt over upsetting Radley who just wants to be her friend simply annoyance that she may not be taken to the school for good because of it. She does deeds she thinks are good such as placing a mirror in the church bathroom so people can go back to the pews looking good and she donates soap to an orphanage. Everything she does is based on the delusion that she is too beautiful and by extension good for her village. Her actions are clearly driven by her vanity and arrogance.

The movie makes Honora seem like an evil stepmother thus making Sophie’s dislike of her appear rational. The movie also changes how the girls first become friends so that it seems to be a genuine friendship on both parts. Because the girls only find out about the school that day, any “good” deeds Sophie does before this day become genuine to an audience. Visually as well, Sophie’s appearance is downplayed immensely: her dress appears to be hand made but not to the quality the original Sophie would want, the duller pinks of the dress make it seem dirty which makes Sophie appear less vain. Especially as her hair doesn’t appear to have had anything done to it nor does she appear to be wearing any makeup. This setup creates a character that is sympathetic to an audience with no vanity, no duplicity and no reason for staying in what is portrayed as a very unpleasant town.

Because of this setup, Sophie being sent to the school for evil makes no sense to an audience and even seems to merely be an admin error the staff are too scared to fix. This creates sympathy for her in an audience as this situation appears to not be her fault at all and looks horrible for her. Additionally Agatha blames Sophie’s action on Rafal and his “blood magic” (which was incredibly unnecessary) thus absolving her of any blame or responsibility for her actions.

All of this combined makes for a completely different character that appears to be a victim of circumstance instead of the original intention of her being this 100% evil girl who has been able to hide behind her beauty and the misconception that beauty makes people good

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[azural83]

You know the whole "women can't be evil on their own and their actions happen because of men" thing? Yeah. That's exactly what they did to sophie in the sge movie

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[bookhorder16]

All right now that I am somewhat calmed down from the movie. Even though it was amazing I have some problems.

*spoilers under cut*

No August Sader are you kidding me!!!

The forest was not blue

There was no circus of talents

Which meant no big reveal at the circus

No bane and no secret about what happens to the students

The trail by tales was all messed up

I loved how the ever ball ended up going but I wanted to see Sophie stop the arrow and break up the happy couple

There was no man wolf in the room room! We didnt get to see sophie murder anyone

There was no princess Uma! I loved her

There wasnt a barrier between the schools so no Agatha arguing with it

I loved the actress she was beautiful kinda too beautiful to play Agatha but still amazing

There was no candy room which I really wanted to see

Sophie never got "F"s painted on her so she didnt do any of the classes or outifts

We barely saw any of Anadil's rats

No different colored finger glow

No frog pajamas for Hort

There weren't any school crests like not at all

The symbol on Sophie's mother's grave was a butterfly not a swan which is small but becomes important later on in the books

Sophie's father was suppose to be blonde which again is small but plays a bigger part later on

Dot wasn't big which as a big person I was really looking forward too

Yuba wasnt really there

No Castor and Pollix whatsoever never even mentioned

The whole storyline kinda took away from the mystery surrounding the headmaster which I didnt like

Sophie was nicer during most of the movie. She didnt really use any one that much and wasnt as manipulative till then end.

The whole kidnapping readers thing was all out of whack they didnt even have the story book deliveries

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[petrichora-art]

evelyn sader, dean for the school for girls

i really wanted to draw the beautiful evil lady who's absolutely mental. terrified the movie sequel (unavoidable) will butcher her.

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[samestupidthings]

I watched the movie and I still need time to process things but here you go:

First of all thank god for this cast because this movie wouldnt be good if it isnt for them..

Yeah it has flaws of course but I didn't expect a perfect movie so I'm trying not to think about scenes they take out

I'm just frustrated that they take out dovey and agatha scene. We can still see that as a deleted scene tho

Tagatha was sooo good!! Even tho they don't have book moments that much, their chemistry is out of this world😭 and I think they make sense more in the movie. To be honest I'm glad they didn't make Tedros trying to kill agatha like in the book

Tophie wasn't a even there you guys 😂 actually now that I'm thinking Sophie isn't obsessed with Tedros at all in the movie. She didn't even try to cast a spell on him 😌

Over all this is a fun movie to watch. And you all should go and watch and support this cast ! They did so good 😭

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[timbourinedrakejr]

Heavy is the head that wears the crown

#Tedros the One True King but at what cost #tedros pendragon #sge tedros #tedros of camelot #idk what tags people actually use for him #school for good and evil #sge #the one true king #sge spoilers #I guess. even though this book came out ages ago #<- I say that like I didn't only JUST get round to reading it despite originally preordering it

[rosellemoon]

Unpopular, possibly controversial opinion: "Rafal" in the main series is slightly more alluring to me than Rafal in the prequels. Sure, you could call him creepy, but he had a certain power and mystique about him that was distinct from the original's.

Sadly, I don't feel the same about Rafal in TLEA. He's a lot more brooding and moody compared to his scenes in the other books.

Allow me to remind you how weird and unhinged this man is:

"Ah, but there's only one way in this world to prove who you are." The Storian stopped its busy writing, sensing a pivotal moment. Slowly the School Master turned. For the first time, his blue eyes had a glint of danger. "What's the one thing Evil can never have . . . and the one thing Good can never do without?"

Absolute fucking creeper. You can imagine the sound he makes as he slowly turns around, like a creaking door. Gives me chills. I love him.

Also, he's rather funny:

The Storian plunged to the page: "Stupid girls! They were trapped for eternity!" "I suspected as much," said the School Master.

These two could've been a comedy duo. Too bad the Storian sucks.

Maybe it's also the way I'm writing him in Ever Never After. Kinda makes me wish I didn't have plans for him to revert to his original appearance permanently. I mean, it's a real fix-it fic.

I just...

MMMMMMMMmmmmysterious.

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[ryhoferu]

I have finished the third book (a while ago actually)

And I want to belive Sophie will not betray anyone ever again after everything that happen. She will peacefully live by herself being a good dean for her school.

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[blousemouse]

Tbh it’s interesting to me how many people will say something cannot be queerbait just because they end up being siblings. Why is it that two characters with a very queer relationship who insist they are friends is queerbait but it’s not the same when those characters are revealed to be siblings? I’d honestly say that’s even WORSE bc not only are they saying it’ll never be canon they’re saying YOU are in the wrong if you see it as romantic (or ever did) it’s just like. So gaslighty. “You didn’t see anything romantic there they were just a normal sibling relationship” idkidk this is probs incoherent but I just HATE the fandom response to agaphie and how they treat soman like he can do no wrong.

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[novainthevoid]

SGE SPOILERS

Not to be discourse on main or anything but the school for good and evil isn’t queer baiting because Agatha and Sophie don’t get to together, it’s queer baiting because of the way they’re literally revealed to be sisters in the third fucking book after ALL the stuff they’ve been through and done for one another. Idk I’m a big proponent for strong platonic relationships but god they came across as not only queercoded but in some way queer with one another.

Edit: y’all should check out my reblog of this post for a more in-depth explanation

#school for good and evil #sge spoilers #school for good and evil spoilers #agatha x sophie #agaphie #nova speaks

[atrenchcoatfilledwithbeees]

Said it before and I’ll say it again, if you are going to have a big role in producing a book to movie adaptation, you should be required to have read the books beforehand to ensure you don’t fuck up numerous plot points and/or get rid of important characters and their personalities

#yes this is about the school for good and evil movie #rereading the books so I can see what else they fucked up #never been more angry in my life I don’t even know what to say #sfgae #sge #sge movie #sge spoilers #the school for good and evil #sge agatha #sge sophie #JUSTICE FOR AUGUST SADER AND CHADDICK AND PRINCESS UMA AND POLLUX AND CASTOR AND OTHER IMPORTANT CHARACTERS #EVEN FUCKING RADLEY

[reviewing-the-views]

Things that were missing in the School for Good and Evil movie

So, I have seen people comment on areas from the School for Good and Evil movie that failed to hit the mark, and I wanted to chime in some of my own thoughts:

What was up with the blood magic? I have only read the first book (I'm slacking, I know), but there was no mention of it, from what I recall. If anything, they have regular magic, which would have worked much more effectively. Plus, we were robbed by not seeing Agatha's finger glow being golden, nor Sophie's, which was the iconic color of hot pink.

Lady Lesso, I'm sorry, did not strike me as being evil enough to be a professor at the SCHOOL FOR EVIL. Also, what was up with Dovey? Her character gave me mixed signals: was she truly good or shallow like the rest of the school for good?

I love that they got Sofia Wylie to play Agatha, she did well with what she was given. Having this character be represented as a POC gives an extra layer of nuance. However, I am concerned with how they pushed Agatha aside to give Sophie more screen time. Many fans also have mentioned the treatment of Agatha's hair during her time in the school for good, while also talking about how the character is not meant to be conventionally beautiful. But given that the choice to cast Agatha as a POC yet to give her less screen time has implications that I wanted to showcase.

I liked how they did the wish-fish scene as it remained pretty faithful to the book. However, I wish they included some more scenes that were so impactful for Agatha and Sophie's character arcs. Some of these scenes include: the Circus of Talents, Sophie killing the swan, Sophie drowning the beast for cutting her hair, Agatha smiling for the first time and realizing her own inner beauty/self-worth, Agatha accepting herself and coming to terms with her own goodness. These nuances are what make the book great, and it is a shame the film didn't include them.

WHERE WAS THE RANKING SYSTEM?!?! Yes, they mentioned the fact that three failures would lead to an expulsion, but the rankings helped develop Agatha and Sophie's growth. They didn't fit the mold right away, both earning 1's at the start. But once they took control, they quickly became the top student at their respective schools.

The beginning had good action, but why reveal the biggest mystery in the entire book? Doing this made the story bland, they should've kept the original pacing.

Speaking of original, why remove the fact that the village is aware of the school? This added a whole layer of meta commentary as the town folk quickly realize that they cannot leave beyond the forest, and that if every fairytale starts at a village, then they are that village. This is why two children are taken every four years -- leading to preparation to protect the village kids and the iconic opening line of the book.

Also, removing the fact that Sophie became friends with Agatha only as a "good deed" is a disservice to both of their characters. This should have never been changed.

It feels like the movie is dead-set on showing how morality isn't black and white. Which, to be fair, is a good take, but the book already addressed this in a much more nuanced fashion. In the book, it is known that each person has a certain percentage of good and evil within them. Those that have more good are sent to be heroes, whereas those that have more evil are sent to be villains. Yet, Agatha and Sophie are different because they are the only ones who are 100% on one side: Agatha is 100% good whereas Sophie is 100% evil. This, to me, is much more nuanced because it establishes the fact that everyone can be both good and evil. Yet, those who are purely and entirely good DO exist, and when they are around, beauty and peace follows. At the same time, true evil CAN exist, and when left unchecked, can be dangerous for all.

Talking about the percentages, this is why Sophie and Agatha have a story being written about them in the first place. The film briefly states how the Storian doesn't write a tale for everyone, so the fact that it begins writing about the two of them is rare and sets in motion their tale. But the reason why it does so is partly because of Agatha being 100% good and Sophie being 100% evil, which is never addressed, thus it doesn't have enough impact in the film.

The romance between Tedros and Agatha was okay. I liked how the two had a earlier connection, but it was missing the spice of the enemies-to-lovers trope while also having no room to grow. He just likes her because "she's different," but it's never shown. Both characters seemed pretty bland as the film went on, which truly is a shame.

I wish they gave more time for the coven to interact, as well as establish Sophie's planning for a Nevers Ball. In the film, it just sort of happens without establishing the fact that only Evers have had a ball. It was also such a great twist for Sophie's actual plan to turn the school upside-down morally.

Sophie should've been more corrupted. Having wrinkles and white hair doesn't compare to the book version in which sHE LITERALLY BECOMES BALD AND FRAIL! She honestly should have looks like Smeagol from The Lord of the Rings to show how deeply a nemesis affects a villain and how evil can truly corrupt.

Talking about evil Sophie, where was the confrontation between her and Agatha? Where she nearly kills Agatha due to her hatred for her? Where she gets Agatha to slow dance with her, leading to the heroes attacking a "defenseless school?" WHERE WAS THE MOMENT WHERE SOPHIE'S PLAN LED TO TEDROS ALMOST SHOOTING AGATHA WITH AN ARROW?!?! This scene could've been as poetic as it was in the book.

The kiss between Sophie and Rafal was okay, but I wish they were more artistic with it. The movie focuses way too much on true love's kiss that they neglect the fact that this kiss be shared between two villains became a true hate kiss. In the book, Sophie describes the feeling as being horrible and wicked, and it's something that I feel the director could've played with in order to show how twisted evil's kiss truly can be. We have always seen a true love's kiss in media, but never a true hate kiss. This was definitely a missed opportunity to be sure.

What was that ending?! Honestly, this film feels like Netflix just flipped through the book, sniffed its contents, and figured that was enough for a movie. It’s giving corporate vibes and it shows. To me, the ending feels a bit sloppy and it doesn’t set things up for a sequel the way the book does where our protagonists leave abruptly through a magic portal after Agatha kisses Sophie. Nothing is truly resolved, making for a good transition to book 2. In the movie’s ending, everything feels pretty resolved, so it may be hard to get a smooth transition for a sequel that is believable.

Finally, this should have been a series on Netflix as clearly, two and a half hours isn't enough to address all of these little nuances that make the book so great. If they could do it with Bridgerton, they certainly could've done it with The School for Good and Evil.

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[azural83]

Genuinely disappointed with the way agatha was handled in the movie

Agatha went through an amazing self discovery journey and managed to truly understand her goodness in the book

She had very low self esteem at first to the point that she despised to look at the mirror,when she got her "makeover" she believed that she got to be beautiful for the first time in her life because everyone were shocked at the sight of her,but then she saw herself in the mirror and realized that she's exactly the same and was just smiling;she realized that she was beautiful all along. Agatha from then started to take care of herself more

Along with her appearance her opinions also got to change over the time. The moment she arrived in the school she described it as hell in the movie and...it never gets resolved? In the books Agatha only studied to not fail,she was also helping sophie as well, but as the time went Agatha truly learned to enjoy her lessons in the school! She learned to enjoy Fairytales and passionately read about heroes who defeated their villains

And the most important thing that wasn't in the movie: AGATHA DIDN'T PROVE HER GOODNESS TO ANYONE

Literally everyone suspected her,even after everything she did. Even she doubted herself but the moment she shows her talent and reveals the truth about the fairies and wolves to both schools everybody were shocked. That was her most important moment and it wasn't even in the movie.

I recently saw a post on reddit about someone who only watched the movie and asked whether if it was a mistake that agatha went to the school of good or not- I can't believe how they managed to mess up the adaptation this bad it's 2022 for god's sake

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[petrichora-art]

Would you consider drawing some sort of Hester x Anadil sketch? Your depictions of those two are the only ones I like/imagine them as lol

hey there!

thank you so much for your inquiry!

your comments always brighten my day and I really wanted to make this one special! I did go a bit experimental with the textures haha!

I know alot of people prefer my typical "animated Disney" style, so I was a bit hesitant doing something different with these characters! However, I quite liked the way it turned out, hopefully you guys do as well!

As for Hester and Anadil, I was inspired by a photoshoot and loved the pose, it suits them perfectly!

thank you again so much for your support! I hope everything is going well!

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etsy shop

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[abeehiltz1159]

What's your theory on how Rhian and Rafal were raised? I have a theory (Theories) on how they were raised. I want to see others' theories as well.

On how they were raised? Well my hc about their parents was that they’re a mix of Good and Evil and they both provided examples of what Evers and Nevers should be like. I picture their dad being oddly calm while their mom is super emotional, a trait the boys inherited. I think they were raised relatively well. If they did something bad there were equal consequences and if they did something good there was an equal reward. Their parents may have been somewhat strict, but they weren’t necessarily abusive. My theory is that they were born in a time where sorcerers were less common and local townspeople reacted somewhat badly to the twins using magic (especially Rafal for using blood/black magic). Rafal is canonically very mischievous but near the beginning of Fall, Rhian comments that Rafal is usually the one to get Rhian out of trouble.

I think their parents were fair, but wherever they were raised was a kinda harsh place (like a Never kingdom) and the boys were shunned for various reasons 🤷‍♀️

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[norahxsstuff]

dovey to lesso and emma at some point: Now if you two don't mind, I'm going to bed before either of you come up with another clever idea to get us killed - or worse, expelled.

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