#so I understand her concern

[violentbirds]

Let this man be happy.

I thought I’d draw another Stardew valley character, but I accidentally drew Shane again.

#happy tag #fanart #stardew valley bachelors #stardew valley #sdv Shane #Shane the chicken man #my fiancé is becoming jealous of Shane #we were playing a co-op farm and spent our joint funds to buy him beer and pizza #so I understand her concern

[tora-the-cat]

An interesting little fun thing with team 7 is that you assume that Sakura's gonna, like, woobify and simplify Sasuke by putting him on a pedastal,cause her goal is centered around him and shes a 12 y/o fangirl so like of course her understanding of him is skewed cause she doesnt see him as a person, just an object of affection, right? She's can't get Sasuke, can't imprint on and/or traumabond with him like Naruto and Kakashi do. They don't see him with rose tinted glasses, because they've lived through their own Horrors and empathize with Sasuke's experience.

......right?

WRONG lmao!! They have too many ghosts!! Naruto's single-minded codependent ass won't get out of his own way long enough to see Sasuke for who he actually is, only able to empathize with the parts of his trauma Naruto relates to and not really capable of understanding him outside of the context of himself (because Sasuke is. His other half). And Kakashi is far too jaded to be fair to him!! He can't decide if Sasuke is gonna end up as a mini-him or a mini-Obito or maybe a mini-Itachi, but either way he ALSO is too traumatized to see Sasuke AS SASUKE.

meanehile SAKURA'S autistic ass may have dogshit empathy, but you know what she does have? A special interest in sasuke. Nothing better to do then give herself a degree in Uchihaisms. She can write character studies about him. she can read his soul. Whenever she says something about him she is right. Every fucking time! She is RIGHT!!!!

'sasuke would NOT compliment me this directly or explicitly express worry unprompted, especially if it gets in the way of his goals' correct.

'Sasuke shouldn't hide that curse on his neck its not healthy BUT if I tell anyone about it he'll never trust me again, which might be even more dangerous for him then the curse mark. Like he can probably handle the curse mark but no one else can stop him from ripping peoples arms off.' correct.

Speaking of! 'Sasuke would not hurt me even when he seems to be...possessed? whatever the only way to knock him out of it is to present myself as Alive and thus something to be protected rather then something to be avenged, because he gets really stuck in his own head about revenge' CORRECT

'hey so um. like. Sasuke's gonna leave Konoha. I'm not sure anything can stop him at this point and honestly I'm kinda starting to doubt anything should, so the only thing I could possibly do to help him at this point is ALSO defect.' CORRECT!!!!

#shout out to @Obihoe cause this started as a tag comment on one of your posts that got WAY too out of hand. just like old times lol #team 7 #haruno sakura #sakura haruno #sasuke uchiha #team crackhead #naruto #naruto uzumaki #sasusaku #doesn't have to be but like. Yeah #for the record no disrespect to my boys Naruto n Kakashi I love them dearly. but like. they got their issues. that's half the fun of team 7 #And Sakura has her problems with Sasuke too!! But her problems have nothing to do with understand him or his motivations or his personhood #and more to do with. Well. her absolute dogshit empathy. Emotionally disregulated ass. #'if you leave me I'll feel just like you did when your parents died' My beloved. Iconic. Great line. No notes. She's really just still so #inexperienced and naive that means she can explain and predict and KNOW him and his actions but still not empathize. She can say shit #like that with a straight face because she's never FELT loss like this before (except that minute she thought he was dead on the bridge) #so she can't imagine a worse pain. Just assumes it can't GET worse because she has no emotional concept of 'worse'. so it must be the same #she's literally the only person with a chance of convincing Sasuke to take her with him to Orochimaru because he's SASUKE of course she #knows all the right pressure points and keywords and concerns and stuff that she needs to convince him. #she's literally playing a little diolouge tree game with him. And maybe even winning up until that line! it's the dealbreaker

[hajihiko]

i love the thought of fuyuhiko being multilingual, what other languages do you think he'd speak?

Italian, French, Thai, Mandarin, Russian and Spanish is what I thought of. And ofc Japanese and English.

#not an art #He and Peko aren't fully fluent in them all tho. They also understand more than they speak #Trained in business lingo and concerning phrases. Do not fully know how to ask for a grocery store and those basic phrases #Meanwhile Sonia is pretty much fully fluent in many languages and is EXTREMELY polite #Had to sneak learning swears and vulgar phrases and casual language in her personal time #Sonia voice in a 3rd language: please excuse me revered madame but could you be so kind as to tell me where I may purchase bread? #Fuyuhiko voice in a 3rd language: where can I find... bread family... Turf.

[s-aint-elmo]

that tidbit in @kchzndrvh‘s post about nana transferring a lot bc of her family and therefore being incredibly lonely is kinda making me a little insane. bc in that situation kids typically either wall themselves off and stop trying to make connections OR present themselves in a way that invites interest and fosters connection (even if their presentation is dishonest or the connections are shallow). and the way that nana clearly went hard on the latter option—making herself appealing by centering others and making herself available to counsel or comfort them, then feeling worthless when she perceives that her help isn't needed (as seen in overture my best friend overture)—makes me SO sad. just. the image of this desperately lonely kid who got it in her head that to be loved she has to be needed, and to be needed she has to be useful. who chose to be useful by being kind and nurturing and offering her love one baked good at a time. kinda tragic kinda heartwarming (as many things about daiba nana are)

#revue starlight #daiba nana #mine #do you understand. DO YOU UNDERSTAND #i love daiba nana so much. the way that she's so kind and so loving and so lonely and so UNWELL #THE WAY. that this adds yet another layer to her Fated Stage(TM). she'd finally found the love and community she was starved of growing up. #of course she'd want to stay. by any means possible #i'm not over it. she chose to keep loving and keep putting herself out there even if the way she went about it eventually became untenable #and also insane and concerning #big banana character of all time #this was supposed to be a dm but if there's something i want to be known for in the revstar circles it's spiralling over daiba nana #so here it is for the world (my cherished revstar followers and mutuals) to see #if you want to buy my silence in the public arena please tell me there's a revstar discord

[camellcat]

WTFFF I thought thirteen would be my new girl crush love of my life heart eyes wife you-came-after-twelve-you-must-be-better-than-they're-all-saying bbygirl and then I had to sit down and watch as she told a man who (if he were not a murderer, of course) literally every regeneration before her would've LOVED and FULLY SUPPORTED that "the systems aren't the problem. how people use and exploit the system, that's the problem. people like you" </33333 !?!?

#WHERE IS THAT POST THAT SAID NINE WOULD KILL THIRTEEN FOR BEING A CLASS TRAITOR #WHY WOULD YOU SAY “ERODE PEOPLE'S TRUST IN AUTOMATION” ALL WORRIED AND CONCERNED LIKE THAT??? #WHEN DID YOU START LIKING AUTOMATION OVER PEOPLE THINKING AND DOING THINGS FOR THEMSELVES??? #AND WHY ARE YOU TRAVELING WITH A COPPER??? WE HATE COPPERS?????? #did we FORGET into the dalek?? how about how he treated danny?? god there's so much more I can't even remember off the top of my head #(I understand soldiers are different from cops but c'mon don't even PRETEND twelve would've been any nicer if blue or danny were just COPS) #also a bit off topic bUT MAY I JUST TALK ABOUT ARACHNIDS IN THE UK FOR HALF A GODAMNED SECOND— #I know the companions are usually the ones to do the doctor's dirty work here but like #I just can't see the other doctors NOT having the business man lure the spider for being so fuckin annoying about it #like I was genuinely surprised when they had him do that whole song and dance about not doing it and then he actually just. didn't do it #the doctor LOVES fucking with evil rich business men this is PERFECT. plus why not get back at him for being awful to their companions? #absolutely gobsmacked thirteen let him act like that. I am wrong in thinking that the others would've shut his shit down a LOT quicker?? #anyways. I love jodie whittaker and it's just so upsetting to have her doctor do something so wildly off #THIRTEEN PLEASE I HAD SUCH FAITH IN YOUUU I WAS IGNORING THE HATERS AND FOR WHAT #I can SEE the other doctors in her still I can FEEL them they're there she's doing an AMAZING job but. oh my god. what did they make her do #I can't even say she feels ooc as a whole because jodie is bloody brilliant. it's just these... moments. that don't make ANY sense to me... #especially coming off of twelve?? I get the radical personality switch but that belief is a core part of the doctor. or at least I THOUGHT #thirteenth doctor #doctor who #I still love all of you who love her and reading ur posts/fics but I. will not be making any myself. I do not think.

[hojiteaversion]

I'd like to think Mehmed is thinking the same with regards to her, in this scene.

He gave her the sword. He controls his temper around her. She stabbed him and his response was to admire and kiss her. He promised to not hurt her friends. He kissed her in this scene because otherwise he would probably tell her everything, which he supposedly can't do yet. He's far from perfect but she is his one "weakness".

Lale was undoubtedly under his power in an unbalanced/dangerous way‚ but he is absolutely under her power as well‚ especially now, and I think he's known it for a long long time.

#i think their love story is beautiful. there‚ i said it #for as much power as he had over her‚ Lale genuinely cherished him‚ because Lale is genuine and loving #and he refused to appreciate or understand how much that was worth‚ because for him‚ love was a game of power. love was not a given #and so the way he saw it‚ Lale had power over him and could thus destroy him. he could be in her mercy‚ and he refused that #he probably forced her to get married and ignored her concerns/doubts‚ because he needed to prove himself/conquer constantinople #so he put her in second place‚ he forced her hand‚ and she died. #and now‚ 600 years later‚ he absolutely understands and cherishes the gift that was her love #he returns that love in kind‚ and worships her because he understands how special she has always been #he comes to terms not only with the fact that he put her through hell‚ but that it was someone who never ever ever deserved it #someone who knew and suffered the worst of him and who *loved* him even when he didn't ''deserve'' it #he gets and values what he couldn't back then‚ and her love is finally respected and returned like she (and they) deserve #their power play is about *serving* her‚ not controlling her #it's satisfying and a bit soft‚ and i love it #romance club #mehmed x mc #rc mehmed #dracula a love story #dracula: a love story #dals spoilers

[sexyladyotd]

MONIKA IS ALSO A CHILD??????

#the dev has stated shes 18 and has in universe had multiple birthdays since the games release meaning she could be in her 20s. i am so tired #i understand why people would be concerned but you can Just Google Things sometimes

[seabeescribbles]

Illustration based off of book descriptions vs what keeps happening. When it comes to fan designs, I guess I can understand not quite remembering the book descriptions or taking liberties with it, but when it comes to official art there is no excuse for this.

#artemis fowl #holly short #the dark red or bright orange hair is y'know #at least they remembered auburn is a kind of ginger #I do have auburn hair though so I think about it quite a lot #it's normally just reddish brown #it can vary #the hazel eyes though are described as hazel and brown #they probably have some green or yellow in there because hazel eyes are brown with more colors intermixed #but yes they are brown #the white skin is just ridiculous #but the nose description varies #as does the hair description but it's never LONG #anyway don't take this as me attacking fan artists #I'm mostly concerned with the official art #they only seem to be getting more of an understanding of the character recently #which is ridiculous because we get a description of her in the first chapter she's in

[dimiclaudeblaigan]

ah yes, she's concerned about the aggressor and attacker who was invading them six months ago. something is wrong with the empire right now, poor edelgard; whatever could've happened to her? :(

like... what. why do you care about what's going on with her specifically when she's the person who made the decision to invade leicester? does the whole war just mean nothing to marianne? it's just totally fine that all those people died in a war edelgard started? poor edelgard, something happened to her after she started her attack? you're concerned about the leader who gave the order to attack your home?

hopes has stupid lines but this one is top tier of the top tier and just an excuse for more edelgardjerking from the writers.

#DCB Three Hopes Run #like no sorry if someone attacked the country i live in and then suddenly their army was a mess #i would /nooot/ be concerned about the leader who ordered an invasion of my home #you'd never see a character being like wow i sure am worried abt dimitri and claude #who are just defending themselves and fighting for their lives out there #but here we get marianne being worried abt the person who declared war on her people #this game tries so so SO hard to make edelgard seem justified and doing a good thing #and also has tons of characters being like wow i sure do just want the best for her #like no i would not want the best for someone who invaded my country unprovoked #being worried abt the civilians in the empire is one thing bc the imperial army was out of control #but just wanting edelgard specifically to be okay? uhhhh. seems like this was just #the only way the writers could keep it in their pants without having shez make a sex joke at edelgard like byleth can #like does marianne not realize the end goal here was to defeat and thus kill edelgard? #it doesn't happen bc of the plot bc thales' magic and yadda yadda #but ultimately without that happening she would've had to be killed to be truly defeated #she's not like claude who would prioritize survival. she would fight to the end #like if you're that concerned about the person who started this war then why are you fighting against her? #either join her side or stay out of the war. really don't understand why anyone from leicester in ag would be worried abt her #they can't even use the classmates excuse bc they weren't even classmates for that long (and it's a stupid excuse even in gw) #but like no rly this game just has ppl love up on edelgard for absolutely no reason #she comes in and starts killing their soldiers for her conquest and marianne six months later is like wow i sure am concerned abt her!! #literally like imagine someone from crimea being like ''im concerned abt ashnard''

[sysig]

You’re gonna die if you keep that up (Patreon)

#Doodles #SCII #Helix #ZEX #Kayako #And Teisel's there technically #*Die again - he's sticking with his track record lol at least he's consistent #Ghost/Curse GF arc!! I enjoy seeing ZEX happy but I am Concerned for him lol #ZEX be attracted to something/one that won't brutally murder him challenge - difficulty impossible #His affection for the grotesque and monstrous - I mean while it's admirable he does regularly put himself in dangerous situations! #Runs solely on the Suspension Bridge Effect lol - attraction and fear so conflated in his mind <3 #I keep thinking of his human instincts as specifically Max's instincts since it's his body - Max's self-preservation and fear and hunger #Which ZEX dutifully ignores lol Max's body tells him to bolt and privately replies like ''Yes yes in a moment'' haha #His fascination wins out! To his own detriment haha #Although I say all that as though I don't relate in my own way - I have maybe just a few too many notes relating to ZEX lol #It's always been hard for me to get into horror in the way it's intended to spook and scare because I tend to get sad :') #So many monsters and ghosts and creatures are victims of circumstance! Like Kayako! As she is here she's not even malicious just dangerous #I've never seen the Grudge so it's only speculation but it seems very sad that she was tethered as a Curse rather than a malignant spirit #Like a battery moreso than an individual - what a terrible after-existence! It makes me sad to consider! #ZEX reaching out to her in his own way is very sweet <3 He's so biased towards his darlings hehe #In a way being human does suit him - we'll packbond with anything that Might have even the slightest inclination to not maim us lol #And the way he personifies her! (VUXonifies her?) Reading intention or emotion into her actions with no proof and no understanding! #The way he ''tries to read her face'' as if he hasn't been struggling with that this entire time - with other humans who can tell him so ♪ #His pride is so delicious <3 He is so easily blinded to his own shortcomings in the face of pleasure and the potential for connection! #It's no wonder DAX worries about him so much hehe ♥ #It also always makes me so happy to have something fit together so perfectly like those last two hehe <3 #That vine didn't exist when this happened! But there it is!! I love newer memes on older media hehehe ♪♫

[rotisseries]

worst thing about getting into bsd rn is my trusted sources telling me that the fanfic fucking sucks like ok WHAT am I supposed to do when I finish this then

#the main concern in my mind when watching smth is just the fanfiction it's true I will watch smth just for fanfic. suck it up #hella needs to write her dazai character study so I have smth good to read at the end of this WHAT DO YOU MEAN ALL THE FIC SUCKS #I gotta gauge how bad it is. I gotta ask her if it's bad cause SHE'S picky #(completely understandable as she's THE QUEEN of writing only things that he would absolutely fucking say) #or if it's like. completely unsalvageable. cause I tend to be more forgiving with fanon then some of my mutuals I think #I get annoyed with fanon but I have to bake in it first #I have to spend long months comparing and contrasting the most popular fics with my understanding of the characters #and my understanding of the characters also has to bake for months in analysis tumblr posts and shit #but like. immediately after finishing something? my range for what I'll believe he says is a lot wider #so I need to know if I can go in a fugue state week long garbage binge at the end of this or if the fics aren't even good enough for that #WHATS WORSE. WHAT'S WORSE. SHE SAID THE MAIN SHIPS ARE VERY NARINESESQUE #DO YOU KNOW HOW DEVASTATING IT IS TO KNOW SHE'D COMPARE THESE SHIPS TO NARINES. BUT THE FIC SUCKS??? #I'm starved for narines I'm looking for substitutes AND THE BSD FIC SUCKS???

[thestarsarecool]

This just in: Yoko genuinely believes that John had a vision about a man on a flaming pie who told him the name of the Beatles.

“[John] wrote a piece called ‘On The Dubious Origins Of Beatles’, and the basic line that we all laughed at was something like “I had a vision and a man came unto me on a flaming pie and said ‘You shall be Beatles with an ‘a’, and so it was.” We took this to be Goon humour and a sort of Biblical joking – “and God said unto thee ‘come forth’, and he came fifth”. That’s very much the humour that was going around Liverpool at the time.

Now, it turned out that we couldn’t have this in the Anthology because Yoko believes that John did have a vision. I’m very friendly with Yoko now so I don’t want this to look like a snide thing, but it genuinely intrigues me that she thinks this. And the way I tried to put it to her was, you can say, “I had a vision” and people will go “OK”. You could say, “A man came unto me”. “OK, it’s starting to sound a little biblical, but it’s all right, still.” “On a flaming…”. “Yes, this is OK, it’s even more biblical”. Now, if you’d have gone to the word “chariot”, we would be all right. Or if you’d gone to the word “phoenix” we would be all right. But the word “pie” is a dead giveaway. “A man came to me on a flaming pie?” I know, in my mind, that John didn’t have a vision about this, but the way Yoko puts it is, “If it’s OK for Paul to dream ‘Yesterday’ then it’s OK for John to have a vision.” So these are the kind of things that cropped up. It’s only a difference of opinion so it doesn’t matter vastly. We’ve tried to make our point, she’s made her point and we’ve arrived somewhere in the middle.”

— Paul McCartney, Club Sandwich Interview, November 1st, 1995

#my quotes #this is both genuinely hilarious #and a little worrying #the mental image of paul trying to explain to yoko that john was telling a joke #and yoko just straight up refusing to understand #it's so funny #I feel like paul would lose his mind #and I kind of love that even though the story was left out of anthology he made sure it was never forgotten #by making it his album title #petty king #but also?? #yoko genuinely not being able to tell that john was joking concerns me #like girl that was your HUSBAND #did she just not get his sense of humor? #or is she just willfully reimagining him to fit with her artistic vision #also the line about yesterday is so nuts #you get the sense that she thinks paul is just making that up #or she just doesn't have any respect for his ability #or she is just being ridiculously petty #or she just genuinely believes that john had visions #but paul saying #it genuinely intrigues me that she thinks this #is so funny #paul mccartney #yoko ono #john lennon #the beatles #beatles #flaming pie

[mayybirds]

Important question, do more of the RE8 villagers survive in this version?

Yes, very much yes. I can't, at this time, guarantee any specific characters other than Elena (definitely) and Luiza (probably), and an undetermined number of unnamed villagers, but I definitely plan for some of the villagers to survive.

While the total wipe-out of the Village in RE8 is a lot more believable than other "total wipes" like Raccoon City or the Pueblo in RE4, as it seems significantly smaller than both RC or the Pueblo, and has a more intelligent breed of bioweapon under specific instruction to exterminate the Village, Resident Evil has a weird and kind of uncomfortable history with complete massacres over its long history that I'm always inclined to push against. It's lazy, uninteresting writing to me when it's a trope recycled so frequently... especially given it's very clearly mostly used to provide clean narrative "closure" between each game by eliminating any other survivors other than the main protagonists (and Wesker lol). Like... RE4, for example, functions as a contained narrative because the Pueblo dies at its end. Its function is over in the continued story of "Resident Evil"... it only matters going forth in the context of Leon, Ashley, and Ada as characters. But as a writer, I'm much more intrigued by a version of that story that involves other survivors. What would it mean to live through something like that, not as the hero outsider protagonist, but as a civilian? How do you even recover? Who would you be after?

The weight of the horror of the complete destruction of a place that's isolated to a single game becomes faded when it's the same shit in every game. I'm sick of it, and bored of it. It would hit harder if it wasn't every damn game... better to take it apart and try something new with its empty box.

#Idk maybe it's because I'm Jewish but I am always expressly interested in the narratives of survivors of massacres & genocides #even over the stories of the “heroes” #and I understand! Functionally! This is not the point of Resident Evil. But I still believe there's missed opportunities in the series #in terms of not calling back to existing set pieces through the eyes of new characters #sorry i'd play the fuck out of a game set in Raccoon City or the Pueblo through the eyes of a civilian survivor. Same for RE8 #RE8 as an entity works better with its total annihilation thematically because it IS treated as a part of it's tragedy... #but it still gets lost beneath the greater narrative importance given to Saving Rose #and I'm out here like. babes what Miranda did to Rose was fucked up and I get why it's Ethan's primary concern but also #THIS WOMAN BROUGHT THAT VILLAGE TO ITS KNEES AND BURNED IT TO THE GROUND BECAUSE IT JUST DIDN'T MATTER TO HER #SHE DIDN'T HATE IT SHE DIDN'T LOVE IT SHE JUST DIDN'T NEED IT #AND THAT IS SO FUCKED UP AND SO INTERESTING AND BY GOD I WILL HAVE SURVIVORS WHO CAN CONFRONT THAT WITH HER #“YOU WERE OUR GOD AND YOU WERE OUR MONSTER AND IF WE WILL DIE IT WILL NOT BE QUIETLY AND CONVENIENTLY” #....I Have feelings is that obvious yet lol #asks #anonymous #Through the Valley to Life

[izzy-b-hands]

every time. every time without fail, that i go on a Dethklok/Brendan's music overall binge as I have been lately. I find myself looking at my guitar like. If only i knew how. if only i could do it right. I could hold her and shred and have fun making music.

alas. my skills are too lacking*

*to clarify, I struggle to read music & learn by ear, but my memory also struggles with remembering chords/finger placements/tabs so even tho i can usually hear how a song should go enough to identify notes & whatnot, and can, with enough time spent noodling, eventually recreate it on guitar. That is not conducive nor useful in actually playing and getting better at it and makes it feel like an Impossible Task lmao.

#text post #tbh it probably is actually impossible bc like #i briefly got a few heavily discounted lessons re: voice guitar and piano w/my old hs choir teacher #and we had some heavy talks abt brains & things and #eventually he was like. u can *technically* play music and sing #ur voice is *unique* like tom waits or bob dylan (read: bad or considered bad by many at least lmao) but u CAN sing #and u can play piano & guitar *in theory* but not with enough understanding to get good at it #his concern kept coming back to my maths learning disability bc he thought that was also fucking up how my brain parses certain music things #and tbh? he's probably right lol #but still. i look to her my shining axe with strings in need of tuning but eager #and then i look away bc it's a nice dream. but im probably never going to be able to achieve any level of skill let alone mastery #I've tried so many times and my brain just can't keep all that info in & parse it all consistently. & it sucks but also it's ok #someday I'll pick her up again and attempt to play and let myself suck at it & b content with that #not today lmao but someday

[raziraphale]

I have never understood people that think love & monsters is the worst dw episode (I like it, sorry) but now that I'm 3 series deep into my rewatch I think the shakespeare code might be the worst one, or at least the most poorly aged. but I haven't even left rtd era yet so I might change my mind idk different horrors still await me

#this episode truly has everything #10 being flippant about martha's concerns about time travelling while black ('i'm an alien and they don't care' you're white dude !!!!) #gratuitous hp/jkr references. it was a bit cringe even before her reputation got flushed down the toilet #10 being a dick to martha just a bit generally. like man I can understand you're grieving but stop comparing her to rose? out loud? #also a lil transphobic joke i forgot about. that's nice #anyway this rewatch I have so much love for martha I am her defence lawyer #show is so mean to her and for what #falling in love with a man who kissed her on their first meeting and then showed her time and space? #god forbid women to anything #reilly.txt #doctor who

[jelfish-aether]

NEW DISGRUNTLED OLD MAN ALERT

#flight rising #saw him. scried him with capsule. fell in love. #immediately got so many lore ideas #i’m thinking he came from a mostly guardian-based clan and came along to the outpost #and is so concerned for the political structure that he kind of just settles down there by accident #and the entire clan becomes his charge because he’s just. so worried. so worried for everyone in it #pyxis (leader) still holds the title of clan leader but everyone gets wither for help instead #she’s relieved (she’s a grieving disaster lesbian. i feel so bad for her) #wither is a grandpa that understands nothing tahts going on and just wants everyone to be safe and happy #and polaris (tries to usurp pyxis) is the bane of his existence #in a ‘what is with this sassy lost child’ way