#seer classpects

[aortaobservatory]

Hello! So, I wanted to know this: What's your take on the Seer of Blood? Your analyses on classpects and how they interact is pretty fascinating to read!

Thank you! The Seer of Blood is a canon classpect that belongs to Kankri, and I will say that one of the things that got me into classpecting as a whole was how... flatly the dancestors were written as characters. I figured that looking at their classes would help to ascribe some deeper meaning to them than how they were portrayed in canon, and I believe wholeheartedly that I am right about that.

The analysis written below is my own writing, analysis, and thoughts. The statements are my own analysis, but they may function as a “fill in the blank” statement for you to create your own interpretation of the classpect as you please.

-aortaObservatory

Seer of [Blood]:

Know - Too Little Experience with Blood

A player who lacks experience with [Responsibilities and Camaraderie], leading to a fierce drive to study [Promises and Relationships] and gradually learning of its potential to affect them or the ones around them

A Seer of Blood is surrounded by impulse and independence, and lacks responsibilities and camaraderie in their life, and as a result are driven to learn everything they can about how promises and relationships work in order to understand what they previously lacked.

Seers study their aspect, craving knowledge of it from their previous lack of it. They seek knowledge of their aspect with a fierce intensity in order to gain more understanding of it, acknowledging the potential consequences of doing so and dealing with them later. Their challenge is to learn how to translate their insight and knowledge into action and decision, as well as learn how to manage their engagement with their aspect so as to not overwhelm themself or others.

Inverse Classpect Analysis of Seer

Seer of Blood: Blood (Promises, Responsibilities, Relationships, Camaraderie) is passive and lacking. Too little experience with aspect causes lack of understanding of it.

Inverse: Witch of Breath

Breath (Impulse, Adaptable, Freedom, Independence) is actively changed within the Seer as they experience Blood (Promises, Responsibilities, Relationships, Camaraderie) to understand it from its passive presence.

Breath (Impulse, Adaptable, Freedom, Independence) embodies the Seer, but is changed to Blood (Promises, Responsibilities, Relationships, Camaraderie) as they experience Blood (Promises, Responsibilities, Relationships, Camaraderie).

#seer of blood #kankri vantas #classpecting #classpect analysis #homestuck #seer classpects #blood classpects #ao classpecting #of 144 #(another thing that got me into classpecting was looking at the thief and prince classes. those classes are not inherently bad!) #(just like how rage is not an inherently bad aspect either! in fact those classes and aspects are some of my favorite to analyze because- #-theyre just so complex. and it really makes you think about what kind of experiences we have as human beings) #(and how those experiences shape us.)

[ithinkdogshouldvote]

Guardian swap au for 4/13 ^ ^

#for claritys sake. these versions of the kids are functionally the same character just with different upbringings #like dave still likes music rose still likes knitting (though she has to hide it because bro will throw her yarn off the roof) #jade still likes science. john still likes movies etc. their nature is the same its the nurture thats different #beta kids #homestuck #homestuck humans #guardian swap au #fanart #fan art #Dave strider #dave lalonde #rose lalonde #rose strider #john egbert #june egbert #john Harley #June Harley #jade harley #jade egbert #homestuck au #bro strider #classpect #witch of breath #heir of space #seer of time #knight of light #hs #digital art #implied abuse. Rose is losing at strife and injured #413

[crocutacanidae]

A homestuckie and a echo(fvn) enjoyer?! This means you are legally required to give all the echo cast classpects since you know everything ever about echo and homestuck, so, Please. tell -m-e- us what chunter's aspect is.

Chunter's a prince of blood

mired in cyclical suffering, given to destroying everything he has, gods speaciealest little boy? It's so obvious to me

As for the others,

Leo- Knight of Hope

Carl- Heir of Space

Tj- Mage of Life

Jenna- Seer of Heart

Flynn- Thief of Rage

Leo's so entirely like me, he gets my exact classpect. i used to hate him for it but now I love him for it

Carl I used to think could be Mind or Life aspect-wise, and possibly a bard classwise. Hell, there's an argument to be made for Witch of Space. Carl's hard to get a grasp on when it comes to these things. He's so often a non-actor in the story, but his inaction comes across as self-serving sometimes. His route lends the most credibility to both the Mind and Life aspects, in relation to Carl's need to decide what he wants without input from others as well as the decisions which granted him his family fortune. Actually. Witch of Mind Carl. Final answer.

Tj is pretty defined by his knowing of the details of the tragedy which changed everyone's life. Mages are prophets whose words both harm and benefit them. Tj is damned if he says the truth and damned if he doesn't. Keeping it in burns him and yet keeps things the way they are. Saying it frees him and yet causes everything to collapse.

Jenna's Classpect I saw coming from the beginning. Biased as she is, her every word on the conduct of her friends is correct. She manages to see through to the heart of Echo but fails to see it as anything of worth. It's a place she hates with her whole being, I think. Her problem isn't if she can see, but whether she can judge it fairly

Flynn i also saw from the beginning. Rage concerns actual rage, but also arbitrations, tangents, and contrivances. Flynn seeks to cut through all the bullshit that rage represents, which is honestly a pretty Light thing to do, but i believe he shares more in common with Blood and worldly suffering than with Breath and detatched idealism. Thieves struggle to be good, but I don't think that's flynn's thing completely. He wishes to join the two versions of his persona that exist, but this doesnt map very cleanly onto any class. Thief it is

#ground quakes #classpecting #echo vn #chase hunter #leo alvarez #carl hendricks #tj hess #jenna begay #flynn moore #i talked a lot and i have more thoughts on this #but i cant really articulate them well here #oh well! #prince of blood #knight of hope #witch of mind #mage of life #seer of heart #thief of rage

[superxstarzz]

round 2!! mage/seer time!!! the seer is definitely one of my favs that I've done but I maaaay be a lil bias...

anyways, the understanding classes!!

#me n my bffsie frfr #hes a mage of blood #and im a seer of void #anyways the swirlies bring me joy and whimsy #homestuck #art #artists on tumblr #homestuck art #my art #homestuck fanart #homestuck redesign #redesign #god teir #classpect #classpecting #fanart #digital art #gif warning

[cringefail-clown]

Mages are speedrunners

Seers make the walkthroughs

absolute fucking banger u just summed these up perfectly

#EXACTLY #homestuck #classpect #seer #mage #ask

[nebularious]

What if being unaffected by trickster mode wasn't just a Dirk exclusive event but instead just a heart player thing

The other trolls: *making out and shit*

Nepeta, standing there: :33< youre all demewsional, time to go update my shipping wall- goddamit equius I thought mew were better than this

#heart aspect #homestuck #homestuck classpect #homestuck aspects #heart #homestuck heart #prince of heart #rogue of heart #mage of heart #page of heart #sylph of heart #maid of heart #knight of heart #witch of heart #heir of heart #seer of heart #bard of heart #thief of heart #lord of heart #muse of heart #holy shit #dirk strider #nepeta leijon #meulin leijon

[nintendont2502]

These are so stupid holy shit

#seer of space #knight of light #<- that me #page of time #time aspect #space aspect #light aspect #classpects #homestuck #homestuck meme #me.jpeg

[yourfaveisclasspected]

DR. COOMER is a SEER of VOID!

Requested by @the-overment-man!

#homestuck #classpect #seer #void #seer of void #dr coomer #hlvrai #mod tacky #as a former hlvraihead: this is so based. i love all your reqs you dropped also #nmcsp

[sideblogdotjpeg]

hey guys does anybody know whats the date today

#.... SORRY. #posts by me dot com #ok. i rembered it was hs day today and did this in about. 1 hour. at 5am rip #i. TTRULY did not spend enough time + i dont rmb enough to give them accurate and true classpects. but #okay. heres my rationale for all of them #callie rogue. obvs. her family are smugglers. she took one of those smuggled goods (serpent egg) and tried to give it to someone better. #stealing and redistributing hope etc. hope i chose for idea of potential & infinite possibilities (destiny peregrines). #also if i rmb right.. hope is one of the classes for like losers. which. i mean that is all of duck teams. losers who realise they suck #AND kick ass #sol blood. connections & bonds we fight for. also his whole arc abt family. etc etc #page because. ok uh #pages have a whole thing of starting out as nobodies and becoming someone. v dteam. i did also consider giving him knight but. ultimately #wanted to draw sol in the page shorts shorts. so. well. #calder i was. least sure abt #gave him void i think relates to his feeling of smallness/insignificance/uselessness + the helm... #and a knight. bcus hes a selfsacrificing guy. also his entire character is like... protecting ppl. very knightly #i dont remember that much abt the knight class tbh tho. RIP #also not featured but oliana/aryox seers of mind. OBVS #......... we are NOT main tagging this one gang B)

[highoncatfood]

Rainstuck 4th and final part of the classpect reasonings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

putting these 4 together bcuz i feel like kurumis and desuhikos analysis dont even deserve their own post bcuz of how unsure i am abt them, halaras too kinda. i also dont have any additional drawings for them so! theres that i guess. more notes in read more if u care...

pt.1 pt.2 pt.3

im kinda bummed that i couldnt rlly incorporate their fortes into the classpects in form of powers bcuz that would make this like 3 times more awesome. buuut it would be so hard to try and make it all work in a way that both their personalities And the powers would make sense for them as characters AND the classpects. so i had to choose and i think matching their personalities was more important. idk

im most happy with vivia. i feel like i could find sth better for halara but honestly i kinda dontttt care for halara that much in general so i probably just dont understand them enough to properly analyze them. desuhiko being heart-bound is nearly perfect if u ask me. maybe i could find a better class for him. kurumi as a heir of space is like... fine. i think i made it work and its enough but again theres probs another classpect that fits her better that i just cant figure out! oh well.

i mentioned grimdark vivia but after refreshing my memory on the horrorterrors i realized that they only communicate with derse dreamers. i could go around it somehow and say that maybe bcuz of his connection to ghosts and shit he could access the outer gods DESPITE not dreaming on derse???? idk, its a bit of a stretch. maybe he could have 2 dream selves! a wink towards his forte? this is homestuck we're talking abt. why should i look for logic here.

another idea for his dream self is that i think it would be fun if he could wake up on prospit pre-session despite not being a space player (tho im not 100% sure thats even canonically a space player thing). "hes just special like that" right. lol but yeah this guy would enjoy prospit i think.. snoozing a lot just like jade and escaping into the perfect peaceful moon world... kurumis there too like "how did he GET here" i dunno im just thinking out loud at this point ermmm

#grghhghh brain overheat #rainstuck #rain code #homestuck #hs #mdarc #master detective archives: rain code #raincode #vivia twilight #halara nightmare #desuhiko thunderbolt #kurumi wendy #classpect #classpect analysis #sylph of void #seer of hope #page of heart #heir of space #catfood art

[aortaobservatory]

i'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on the seer of doom! one of my fantrolls is a seer of doom although im not entirely sure if that classpect fits them yet, so i'd love a more in-depth analysis of it.

Seer of [Doom]:

Know - Too Little Experience with Doom

A player who lacks experience with [Compliance and Wisdom], leading to a fierce drive to study [Acceptance and Sympathy] and gradually learning of its potential to affect them or the ones around them

A Seer of Doom is surrounded by growth and perseverance, and lacks compliance and wisdom in their life, and as a result are driven to learn everything they can about acceptance and sympathy in order to understand what they previously lacked.

Seers study their aspect, craving knowledge of it from their previous lack of it. They seek knowledge of their aspect with a fierce intensity in order to gain more understanding of it, acknowledging the potential consequences of doing so and dealing with them later. Their challenge is to learn how to translate their insight and knowledge into action and decision, as well as learn how to manage their engagement with their aspect so as to not overwhelm themself or others.

Inverse Classpect Analysis of Seer

Seer of Doom: Doom (Acceptance, Compliance, Wisdom, Sympathy) is passive and lacking. Too little experience with aspect causes lack of understanding of it.

Inverse: Witch of Life

Life (Growth, Perseverance, Empathetic, Healing) is actively changed within the Seer as they experience Doom (Acceptance, Compliance, Wisdom, Sympathy) to understand it from its passive presence.

Life (Growth, Perseverance, Empathetic, Healing) embodies the Seer, but is changed to Doom (Acceptance, Compliance, Wisdom, Sympathy) as they experience Doom (Acceptance, Compliance, Wisdom, Sympathy).

I did not understand this one at first, so let me place some thoughts. Anything in excess is bad; seers are surrounded by the excess of their inverse. Growth and perseverance do not seem as though they are bad in excess, but at what point do such things go too far? At what point is growth leaving behind the roots in their entirety? At what point does perseverance lose sight of the initial motivator? This Seer wants to back up, find their roots, and stay with them.

The analysis written above is my own writing, analysis, and thoughts. The statements are my own analysis, but they may function as a “fill in the blank” statement for you to create your own interpretation of the classpect as you please.

-aortaObservatory

#seer of doom #classpecting #classpect analysis #homestuck #seer classpects #doom classpects #ao classpecting #of 144

[ithinkdogshouldvote]

Holy shit i need a hobby

(Btw, that's Scott Tenorman not Kyle)

South park Sburb au part 2: here

#stan marsh #tolkien black #token black #eric cartman #scott tenorman #homestuck #homestuck fan planets #space bound #time bound #mind bound #knight of space #seer of space #bard of time #bard of mind #classpect #homestuck au #sword kind #pen kind #pistol kind #cane kind #homestuck god tier #hs #sp #stolkien #south park #sp sburb

[starlit1daydream]

HORNETSSTUCK GOD TIERS (MAYBE FINALISED PROBABLY NOT)

Jay Merrick: Seer of Void

Alex Kralie: Prince of Light

Timothy Wright: Heir of Heart

Brian Thomas: Witch of Mind

Jessica Locke: Muse of Breath

The Operator: Lord of Void(?)

THIS MAY CHANGE. ALEX AND JAY ARE THE ONLY ONES I AM 100% SURE ON

#homestuck #classpecting #seer of void #prince of light #heir of heart #witch of mind #muse of breath #lord of void #marble hornets #jay merrick #alex kralie #tim wright #brian thomas #jessica locke #the operator #slenderman

[superxstarzz]

witch of heart + seer of mind?

iiiii don't have much to say about this one but it's p coolio!!

#sorry this one took so long #i was eeby #homestuck #art #artists on tumblr #my art #homestuck art #fanart #homestuck fanart #digital art #classpect #classpecting #classpect homestuck #homestuck classpect #combination #homestuck combined classes #homestuck witch #homestuck seer

[goopiferart]

Classpect analysis notes under the cut!

Spent the last 2-3 weeks classpecting with the Book Club and here's what we largely came to agree on for MY classpects. I came to the discussion thinking "Thief of Doom" but I guess things just change! Most of us went into this with "which classpect would present the biggest challenge for me" so most of my notes take on... challenging qualities.

I'll try to post everyone else's final classpects + notes in this blog eventually (soon).

🩸 PRINCE OF BLOOD 👑

Princes are individuals who either lack their Aspect or outright reject their Aspect and are defined by their struggle to come to terms with it

The Prince of Blood may start out as an individual who struggles with relationships

They would have difficulties forging new friendships, maintaining bonds, and finding meaning within the company of others

They resent the ties that bind them to people, most likely due to their overwhelming need to honor obligations at any cost

Their highly competent nature is sought out by others but is rarely rewarded, putting this Prince at risk of being exploited if they are not discriminating in the company they keep (like Pages)

The Prince’s mean independence streak can border on the extreme if they don’t have social anchors to ground them

They have a fetishistic need to burn bridges at the slightest inconvenience, selfishly preferring to indulge in their maladapted coping instinct over rationally working things through with others

They are equally avoidant and combative, lacking the meekness of Rogues but also their knack for charm and levity

The Prince of Blood’s natural instinct is to avoid confrontation not out of fear of others but of themselves

“Nobody makes me bleed my own blood. Especially me!”

What little people they manage to keep around them are at risk of being put on a gilded pedestal

The Prince’s loyalty to those that they deem worthy is all-consuming and dangerous, to both themselves and others

To step outside The Prince’s idealized version of you would be to betray their trust and one-sided devotion, something they will never be able to forgive

Princes naturally gravitate towards embodying their opposite Aspect, at least outwardly

The Prince’s independence is sacred and is something they will never willingly compromise with, much to the chagrin of those around them

CAUTION: Do not tell this Prince what to do

They chafe against tradition and the status quo but lack the drive (and charisma) to rally others to their cause

They seek out novelty over the tried and true, often having difficulties completing long-term projects out of boredom or due to needing to experiment

The Prince wants nothing more than to escape the “heaviness” of Blood for the airy pursuits of Breath but will always be doomed to be tethered by their undeniable need to love and to be loved by others

Princes destroy Blood or destroys through Blood for themselves

Aside from being effective solo killers (blows up all your blood), the Prince would be able to utilize their bonds to destroy other bonds

They could form alliances or force others into contracts to help eliminate other inconvenient alliances

Obligations become weaponized as the Prince can call upon irrevocable (and inescapable) favors to their team’s benefit

The inverse classpect manifests when Players are at their worst or are emotionally compromised

The Prince of Blood’s inverse is the Sylph of Breath

At their worst, the Prince could take a dogmatic approach to prescribing their variety of independence as the one-and-only solution, forcing their brand of “living” as the panacea for all of life’s injustices

Their forced and misguided aid would make them appear to be tyrants to others despite the Prince’s initial good intentions

They could also become wholly irresponsible individuals, shirking the demands of Blood completely for a life of carefree self-destruction

🖕 SEER OF RAGE 🔮

Seers receive knowledge of their Aspects externally, not being innately versed in their Aspect early in their journey

The Seer of Rage could initially have trouble understanding anger and fear, both theirs and others, as they’re either suffering from chronic indifference or are in deep denial about their own inhibitions

They could appear to be carefree and upbeat individuals while being deeply conflicted and troubled on the inside, completely loath to let their struggles be perceived by others

The Seer will never admit to feeling powerless over their lack of agency over their base instincts, shamefully resorting to relying on the voice of more authoritative figures to guide them instead

They want others to see them as arbiters of self-control, infallible beings who keep a short leash on any unbecoming instinct that betrays their lack of mastery of the self

The Seer is oft indecisive, afflicted by the restrictions they place on themselves by being unable to look past their own fears and discomforts

The Seer comes into their own when they start allowing themselves to question their beliefs, confronting uncomfortable revelations, and allowing themselves to dabble in the mess that is “human emotion”

The catalyst needed to put the Seer on the right path in pursuing their own truths will usually be explosive, a sudden and dramatic event that would change their relationship with their Aspect forever

The Seer of Rage may be one of the more “introspective” Seers in that the prerequisite to being of any use to their team and session is to understand themselves first rather than blindly trusting external sources

They can also run the risk of becoming mouthpieces for misguided causes and manipulative forces

These Seers tend to be natural pacifists who rarely enjoy involving themselves directly in conflicts

This does not mean that they are shy about letting their own Rage loose on occasion

Seers examine (understand) their Aspect or examine (understand) through their Aspect for others

The Seer of Rage can literally see (smell?) fear

They know exactly what people are afraid of and what needs to be done to mitigate, avoid, or enhance it in others

They can be incredible strategists, capable of seeing through illusions and identifying enemies’ psychological weaknesses

The Seer is capable of identifying all the possible missteps stemming from the “human element” in plans and will work around them accordingly

The inverse classpect manifests when Players are at their worst or are emotionally compromised

The Seer of Rage’s inverse is the Witch Hope

At their worst, the Seer shirks their responsibility as the messenger of hard truths, using their extensive knowledge of fear and anger to transform “unpalatable” emotions into more pleasant experiences for others

Allows unhealthy delusions to cloud their ability to discern the truth from fantasy

Focuses too much on helping others avoid reality than on confronting it

#homestuck #prince of blood #seer of rage #classpect

[giftofclasspects]

hello friends!! i'm back with more classpect playlists!! this time, i've made playlists for the breath aspect under the cut!

maid of breath

page of breath

mage of breath

knight of breath

rogue of breath

sylph of breath

seer of breath

thief of breath

heir of breath

bard of breath

prince of breath

witch of breath

#homestuck #homestuck oc #homestuck classpect #breath aspect #maid of breath #page of breath #mage of breath #knight of breath #rogue of breath #sylph of breath #seer of breath #thief of breath #heir of breath #bard of breath #prince of breath #witch of breath