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exobyharu · 5 years

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PCY - Ch6

Originally posted by iyeolie

Chapter 6 - If there’s one thing clear

(Part 1)(Part 2)(Part 3)(Part 4)(Part 5)

Summary: You don’t die, Junmyeon gives you space, PCY gets unlimited punches, and Baekhyun’s a whiner.

⏰10:49 AM 🌏SM Entertainment headquarters (disclaimer: you didn’t wanna be there) 🌞Too much sun, but that wasn’t what the beach towel’s for 👥 YN, Park Chanyeol, Kim Junmyeon, Byun Baekhyun, EXO’s manager, your best friend Jane (mentioned)

Notes: Happy Birthday PCY! I love you with all my heart! OBSESSION just dropped and I love how there was fire and everything. AND EVERYTHING! I’m so excited for them all. Kai’s moves are to die for. What was your favorite part of the video? Everything? Me too! That’s all kids, bye. (I’ll start doing my face like CHEN’s starting tomorrow)

Words: ~2,200

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One of the worst things that can happen to a non-celebrity is to be mistaken as a celebrity. You would realise in a few hours that there were at least a hundred worse things you could name, but being kidnapped from your morning walk in the hotel gardens seemed to top your Most Unfortunate Events In My Life list. You will also realise much later that it was not exactly a kidnapping that happened. But the point was that you were freaking out because you did not know who wanted your person recklessly shrouded by a beach towel and ushered to a tinted van with a startling sense of urgency that made you start hearing your own pulse inside your head.

Am I going to die?

It was nothing close to escalating to an attack of uncontrollable anxiety, however, considering that your brain preferred to panic over much more irrelevant concerns. Death was not something you were wired to fear, but the thought of not knowing what was going to happen next made the experience almost intolerable. There was nothing quite like the distress from not knowing what to do while the rest of the people inside the van fretted about what to do with you.

You did not know whether to yell or cry. No amount of coffee or muffins would make up for how the staff members – whom you had come to know were from Chanyeol’s entertainment company – had essentially abducted you. That stuff’s supposed to be against the law, right?

So, nope. You were not doing as they said. You were not going to make yourself comfortable in this pretentiously minimalistic room and lean back on the steel sofa because the door would be right behind you. You were not going to help yourself to treats that were served because you did not need sugar and caffeine – you needed Xanax. And the wi-fi password they offered? What kind of idiot did they think you were? Why would you trust people who knew your full name and where you lived without having to ask you? You did not need more information about you out there, within their easy access.

It did not matter how many times this guy named Suho, whose alabaster skin and enchantingly stunning face apologised for their relatively unconventional manner of securing you from reporters who were chasing after Biscotti Girl’s true identity. You had just recently lost your trust in handsome faces like his. Falling for handsome faces like his was sooo twelve hours ago.

Not again, you made sure, even though he may as well break his back from all the bowing he would repeatedly do after every interaction you had. Here was another one because he had just finished making a phone call outside the lounge, promptly shutting the tinted doors before a whiny pink-haired guy managed to follow in his steps.

“Forget the phone! I wanna see!!! Junmyeon-ah!”

Despite how it bustled with activity outside with so many people rushing about, it was a rather quiet holding room, with only you and this guy, whose real name was apparently Junmyeon. He bowed again, apologising probably for the twenty-seventh time – because it almost entertained you to count if he managed more than thirty – and he finally confirmed having spoken to Chanyeol. He left it at that, stepping out once more because he probably felt that this morning was already wearing your patience out.

It was the longest two hours alone for you until the glass doors finally slid apart, welcoming a less-startingly tall Chanyeol into the room. He had a sullen mood, as usual. Unconsciously, you braced yourself for another exchange of hostility, mimicking his facial expression. It turned out that the look he had was for the pink-haired guy outside.

“That guy Baekhyun’s a whiner,” he complained, allowing himself to fall onto the couch right across from you. Clearly, he was nowhere near as disquieted as you were. His apparent lack of empathy confused you. You pouted, as there was nothing but plain weariness in Chanyeol. But now, he was relaxed, as if keeping Baekhyun out of the room was all he needed to put everything in his life in order. You waited for him to address the elephant in the room.

He did not.

After a few seconds, the guy sat up as if a thought energised him. With a grin, he rested his head on his hands and faced you, beaming. “I finished the song, by the way!”

“And I can finish you,” you replied, glaring at him with a potent mix of impatience and contempt. You were a couple of twitches away from either breaking into sobs or kicking him where it hurt. “God, not even an apology, Chanyeol? Really?!”

“Calm down, YN,” he interrupted. You expected him to strike back with an even louder yell, but he did not. Instead, he scooted over, took the empty space beside you and placed a light hand on your back. “Okay, I’m sorry. I was just giving you the good news before the better one.”

You swatted his arm away. “And the better news, then?”

“There’s a plan. You can consider this Biscotti Scandal fixed.”

You tried to contain your outrage with a blink. He called it a scandal. Was it officially a scandal at this point? And what a ridiculously named scandal, at that. You went through the usual warnings, keeping your temper in check before responding to Chanyeol, whose only intent was to comfort you.

Be nice. Be nice. Be nice x1000. Your mouth was dry when you swallowed. “So they’ve stopped talking about us?”

“Well, no. But I–”

“Then you haven’t fixed anything!” you yelled, your composure wavering.

Last night, you were thankful for a chance to see Chanyeol for the final time and leave a good impression. Such impressions no longer mattered, seeing that you may have to spend even more time with him. This was certainly not what you wished for because he kept screwing up everything!

Abandoning restraint, you finally landed a series of punches – the strongest ones you can throw – on his left shoulder, which ended up hurting you more than it did him. The guy did not even show any serious effort to block your hits that probably seemed like taps to him at most. And yet you did not care because you were angry – plain and simple. Not easily tired, you retaliated when he wrapped his palms around your fists, restraining you effortlessly with lights hands. “Listen, will you? You help me this once, and they will stop. I know they will.”

Despite your relentless bawling, Chanyeol was doing a good job at pacifying your bout of anger. With an even face and a calm tone, he let go of your hands and let you punch him some more until you felt foolish for even trying. There was no way the Chanyeol you’d imagined would pull off a stoic face through an outburst like that.

“This is all your fault!” you yelled, as a final attempt to hammer down your point. You were upset with him, and he knew that. You just needed him to be aware of how hard this situation hit you. There were a hundred other places you would rather be, especially after wrapping up what was supposed to be an eventful soul search these past few days. You had an entire day planned with Jane and a mandatory meet up with your parents that evening. And now, this inconvenient morning was too quick to pass and you hated not knowing how much longer you had to stay for.

You were catching your breath, more worn out by your feelings than the colossal waste of energy you just pulled off. And Chanyeol did not say anything, possibly waiting for you to speak first. He could be a gentleman for that, or he could be waiting for your breathing to even out because he wanted you prepared for his next story.

It was the latter.

“I told them that you’re my cousin.”

His preposterous declaration left you frozen for a moment and all that happened after that was in red. You started seeing in red. You realised the next second that your foot had already landed a blow Chanyeol’s shin, and this time, it hurt him enough to make him throw his hands up in defence.

“Yah yah! Before you freak out, just listen okay? LISTEN!”

But you were not going to. You were really starting to think that Chanyeol was sabotaging the whole thing for a hidden agenda. Wasn’t it a thing? That idols like to stir up some scandals for attention when their fame seems to be waning? Wasn’t he popular enough?

Without glancing back, you stood up from your seat, cautiously avoiding Chanyeol who had pretty much figured out that you were on your way to the glass doors. Turning on your heels, you closed your eyes, as you drowned in contempt, savouring the sound of your shoes, stomping against the floor. Words in your head began to string themselves together into a smart parting line that would make it clear that you were not joining him on his bullshit. When you opened your eyes, you stopped, catching Chanyeol’s reflection on the doors.

He was on his feet, shoulders squared with hands fisted on his sides. You took notice of the skin in between his brows, all bunched up whenever he was in a sour mood. This time, it was different.

“They believed me, YN.” Chanyeol’s eyes were begging you. “My manager believed me. Junmyeon believed me. All we need to do is make the rest of the world believe it.”

“Sounds easy.” No to puppy eyes had always been your policy.

But Chanyeol innocently overlooked your sarcasm, and sat down when he finally got your attention back. “Because it is. I just need one afternoon on Instagram to broadcast it. And I need you there, doing your own thing, being you, in your house, with the rest of your family casually–”

“PARK CHANYEOL you leave my family out of this!” And just like that, you were darting back to the center of the room, finding yourself in a rare opportunity of standing taller than him for once. “Me, and my family are not going to help you propagate a lie!”

“Come on, YN. It’s easy to lie to the members. The fans are much harder to convince.”

“Is that your only problem with this plan? Why can’t you just tell the truth, anyway?”

“I can’t tell them I started a fight with a stranger!”

“Then tell them I started it!”

“They won’t believe me!”

“And you expect them to believe I’m your cousin?!”

He made a face. He was loud, but for once, you were louder. It was almost a wonder how nobody had burst into the room with all the shouting. Then again, it was much louder outside and you could not hear a thing.

Soundproof walls: perfect for your table flipping tendencies. You stared at the marble tiles, blinking as Chanyeol’s shadow loomed in front of you now.

“The truth,” he whispered.

You did not believe that you had convinced him at first, but when you glanced up, his smile was resigned. “All right. I messed up, anyway.” And then there was that split-second hesitation that you would have missed if you were not looking at him already. This was not easy for him. “I’m sorry, YN. Believe it.”

He pursed his lips as a faint shade of pink dusted his cheeks. Chanyeol, who was tremendously uncomfortable with the practice of verbally apologising outright, finally tried. This was the sincerity that you needed to appease the part of you that hated him. And it may have felt like a win for you at first, knowing that you had finally settled the matter in your terms, but more than anything, all you could think of was that you were finally going back to your own life, apart from this guy’s.

This was it – the last time and place where you would see him – or at least you tried to convince yourself that it was. Your intuition was usually on point so you merely hoped that it was truly over. True enough, a man you had not met entered the room before you could formally say your goodbye.

Chanyeol squared his shoulders, acknowledging the man who turned out to be their manager. It did not look like good news at all. “Baekhyun beat us to the announcement,” said the man in a suit. He placed a hand on his pink face as he sighed, and it looked like he had just come down from an outburst too. “We want you to confirm this once and for all.”

Just another plot twist that you saw coming two seconds before it happened. Your gift of intuition was as good as no intuition, at this point. You did not even want to look at Chanyeol anymore. He would not say anything. “You better get ready because Junmyeon is going live in thirty minutes and he wants you there. It’s up to you, Chanyeol. You can bring your cousin along, if she wants.”

You sure as hell did not. It was sad to say, but that was the only thing left clear to you now.

💙💙💙 - to be continued -

#happy loey day #chanyeol #chanyeol scenarios #park chanyeol #exo scenarios #exo #park chanyeol scenarios #exo fanfiction #kpop scenarios #kpop fanfiction

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thezfc · 5 years

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OK- I decided to combine all the anons I have about Fiona/Zhora/Stalkers because it’s ALOT.

Anonymous said: Ok, I must vent. It chuffs my ass to no end to see these bitches brag about how this is their 3rd time meeting Tom at stage door! They're taking up space in line when someone who has never had the chance to meet him but wants to yet doesn't get that chance. Meanwhile they think the more he sees them he's going to magically fall in love with them. They're so fucking selfish. You've met him. Get over yourselves and let others have the same chance. 😠 Btw, before you say anything, I live in (pt1) (pt2) states and have no chance of seeing the play or meeting him. And I'm fine with that. It just really pisses me off to see these immature bitches act so selfishly. News flash: He's NOT going to fall for you so get on with your lives! Thanks for letting me vent. Anonymous said: To anon saying you should have Fiona on your podcast. No, don't be dumb. The problem with you guys is you're so fixated on your hatred of Zhora that you'll ally with anyone she argues with... But those people are just as bad as her. It's not a win to have a creep on your podcast just because she hates Zhora. That's hypocritical.

Anonymous said: Lmao someone asked Fiona if Tom knew she rented Airbnbs near his house and so on and she didn't answer, just got all sanctimonious again 🙄🙄🙄 What's your opinion on Fiona then, Zero? You seem to have a very wishy washy opinion on the issue. Half the time you scream stalker at anyone you hate, then you downplay it or suggest others do the same when you like them? Anonymous said: Actually the legal definition of stalking in the UK includes "loitering (in any public or private place" as one of the potential factors. There's a lot of wording about how many factors have to be present to bring a case of stalking to the police, but these fans tick one or two behaviours that *can* go hand in hand with stalking. Loitering in a public place... Near his house... If Tom really wanted to I bet he could bring a case against one or two fans, and threaten a few others.

Anonymous said: Also lmao at FR coming on here to whine about Zhora. Honey, Zhora DID talk to you about this, more than once. And you and your pack of dogs hounded her off Tumblr last time she called out your hypocrisy. Zero, I know you hate Zhora but she was right on the money about Fiona. Fiona's a hypocritical creep. She grandstanded about Grace when she's exactly the same, maybe even worse. Plus, hon, not everyone who talks about you is Zhora. You brag about this shit all over your various SM handles.

Anonymous said: I don't think Tom's "bothered" by the stalker fans, but I think he's not aware that FR also stays in his area on "holiday" and so on. That might change his outlook somewhat? But still, even if he doesn't feel threatened by it, he knows what they're doing and why. It's not like he thinks they're really cool and should be his BFF (or sex partner like they dream of). Plus him not being outwardly bothered doesn't mean its okay!!!! It's still fucked up. Anonymous said: Talking about stalkers, two french girls keep "bumping" on Tom. One even left france for months to live there and the other met him multiples times same for cumberbatch and a few others actors. Anonymous said: Diff perspective on 'stalker' fans-I have a few degree separation w/intl famous band & spouse & friends involved w/fan fundraisers/events worked w/mngmt etc. Had issues w/some stalker fans & I got irritated cuz seemed like they got 'special' treatment from band but had VERY revealing convo w/mngmt & security once on how they were all VERY aware & it was more a case of "keeping them close to keep an eye on them". So just cuz TH is smiling doesn't mean he's cool with everything (+ he's an ACTOR!) rllca submitted: “as long as the frequent flyers stay reasonable”…..but middle-aged women spending that much money and seeing his play so many times is totally UNreasonable. He must think they’re nuts! tomhiddlestonangel said: Keep holding up the mirror to these crazy stalkers. There is nothing more terrifying than having a reflection you don’t recognise. Denial is one of human natures worst enemies. Their just a bunch of Buzz Lightyears waiting for their epiphany 💡 Keep going Z, if nothing else their reactions are hilarious 🤣 Anonymous said: Here’s some piping hot tea for you: Zhora Salome is old enough to know better than to behave like a goddamn child. Why do the rules she set up not apply to her? I hope someone makes her take a long walk off a short cliff.

Anonymous said: “Photographic evidence” First of all, he’s an actor. He’s spent years acting excited to see the same people over and over again. Second ... have you looked at the body language in those pictures? He’s entirely angled away from them, the smile doesn’t quite reach his eyes and he looks like he wants to sprint into the night.

Anonymous said:

If instead of paying ten grand to see him now why not invest it in something worthwhile, wait five years when his career isn't what it is now, then take it out and have a few more dollars to see him at a convention or in his latest theater project?

rllca said:

$10 000 for a few minutes of small talk, then you go on your way. He doesn't give a shit about you.

Anonymous said:

Tom is probably really flattered that these fans spend so much money going to see his play multiple times, who wouldn't be. He seems to enjoy interacting with fans at work e.g. stage door etc. I think if he realised she was staying so close to his house that she can see in to his courtyard he would probably not be so happy.

Anonymous said:

Congrats Fiona, when's the wedding?

Anonymous said:

www.instagram.com/p/ByJU1b_F1jb/?igshid=1xkp9nn1bqujk Ugh. She keeps conveniently skirting over the fact that he probably doesn't know she lurks around by his house every time she's in London. I remember her and Saney being bitches about Grace, when isn't Fiona exactly the same? It doesn't matter if Tom looks happy to see her, the FACT is, she shouldn't be lurking around his neighborhood like a creep. Stick to stage door, ffs.

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To the third anon down asking me about my opinion- I feel like you are probably the same person who called her out on her blog. I don’t know Fiona- she messaged me just this last week to tell me about the Omaze thing- probably to get ahead of it and I have been honest with her that I have been very vocal about my thoughts around this obsessive fan girl behavior and her reply was actually pretty reasonable- she wasn’t a bitch about it and didn’t try to change my mind. But I have received more information from other blogs and anons with receipts that she is lying that she’s never stayed near his house and she in fact has very recently. I don’t like the lying- admit it or else you KNOW it’s wrong.

EIther way- I don’t have to shit talk every single one of these frequent fliers, I don’t want my blog to become just a place to bitch about them- there are SO MANY that it’s too much to keep track of, and I’m sure there are plenty more who don’t post on open social media accounts who have been there a zillion times- I know of plenty that I’ve said nothing about. I said my peace on my blog and podcast and this Omaze raffle was it’s own whole drama.

In conclusion- I will be very happy when this play is over and this issue stops being drama and everyone can stop treating him like a zoo attraction. I”m sure the anon is right that the frequent fliers will be all of over the place this week getting their last fix.

#th fandom fuckery

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reveluvlybabe · 5 years

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RED VELVET TITLE TRACK RANKING

AKA: THE MOST SUBJECTIVE AND ALSO CONTROVERSIAL THING I’VE EVER DONE

disclaimer: I love all of Red Velvet’s songs, and I would rank their lowest title track for me at like an 8/10, still. So if I rank your favorite song in the entire world low, it doesn’t mean I don’t like it, I do. Alright, now let’s judge my opinions.

#15. Happiness

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t hate this song. In fact, I really like this song! I really like all of Red Velvets title tracks a lot. But Happiness is just the weakest of the bunch, in my opinion. The outfits aren’t great, the song itself is good but kind of loses its magic pretty quickly, the chorus gets really repetitive (and this is coming from the person who will be ranking Rookie and RBB much much higher on this list) and the song overall just doesn’t feel very Red Velvet. Also, it doesn’t have Yeri, and that in and of itself could drop it to the bottom. Overall, it feels like a debut song. Like a group that hasn’t quite found itself yet. And that’s not a bad thing, and for them not having “found themselves” yet, this song is fantastic. I think it just highlights how far the group has come.

The hair is dope though.

#14. Red Flavor

I feel like I’m going to have to repeat myself on this a lot, I DON’T HATE THIS SONG. Also, I feel like this ranking will spark pure outrage (although not as much as some of the rankings to come ooh boy). I know that this song is one of Red Velvet’s biggest hits in Korea. I get it. But also, I just think this comeback lacks… something, and it doesn’t really showcase Red Velvet’s best qualities. First of all, this area is easily one of the least flattering as far as hair goes, without a doubt. I mean they somehow made IRENE look bad ( or as close to bad as she gets). I don’t even know how they managed. Wendy’s hair looks super damaged and unhealthy for some reason? And the blonde they picked doesn’t really blend well with the brown they picked? Seulgi’s hair is fine, but the styling looks really awkward in the music video? Even Joy’s red hair, which is great, is sometimes styled weirdly? Other than that, the song and MV are just kind of… boring? I got tired of the song super quickly, it just isn’t that interesting and (unpopular opinion) Power Up is a better summer bop, although this one still has great positive energy. This song just makes me kind of bored by this point. If I haven’t listened to it for a while I’ll usually enjoy it, but that’s about it. The rap section is pretty good, although I’d say it’s probably the weakest out of Red Velvet’s title tracks, and the rest of the bridge is alright. I’m just underwhelmed by it at this point, I think. It’s definitely a good song, and the dance is fun. But I feel like there are more fun and interesting songs in Red Velvet’s discography, and I feel a little disappointed that this is one of their bigger hits.

This one has Yeri though, so it’s not in last because of that!

#13. Ice Cream Cake

I actually really love this song, I think it’s a high-key bop and I almost never skip it when it comes on. In fact, the way the song sounds is its strongest aspect, in my opinion. But I’m not ranking these on just the songs themselves, I’m also considering visuals, concepts, execution, the era as a whole, etcetera. And all of that puts this era a lot lower. Concept wise, I think this is probably Red Velvet’s weakest. I’m just not really sure what we’re going for. It has cutesy, creepy, sporty, and retro aspects, but it doesn’t really commit to any of them and I don’t really know what it’s meant to be. And based on their stage outfits, SM doesn’t know either. The music video is cool but, again, I’m not really sure what it’s going for. Although, this song does have one of Red Velvet’s best rap sections, so credit for that. Not quite as good as Dumb Dumb, but probably second to that. Overall, this song is great, but the concept needs workshopping.

As for the hair… Automatic did it better.

#12. Bad Boy

Here’s where we get controversial. Yes, I am ranking Bad Boy this low. Because sometimes I feel like everybody absolutely worships Bad Boy, and I don’t really get it. I like the song, I do. It has a really nice flow to it, and Red Velvet absolutely obliterated the girl crush concept. But compared to pretty much any other Red Velvet title track, Bad Boy seems kind of… flat. It lacks the life and energy of RV’s other songs. And don’t tell me that’s because it’s a slow and sexy song, have you even SEEN Automatic and Be Natural? Red Velvet can be sexy and also entertaining. Don’t get me wrong, the members all do amazing with this song and its concept, especially Seulgi and Irene. And the visuals as a whole during this era are definitely a standout. But almost every other aspect: vocals, dance, uniqueness, etcetera, seem to be lacking? You could make an argument for this being the era where every member looked their best, because yes, they all looked amazing. The visuals here are stunning, for sure. But sometimes I feel like that’s the best part of this song. And so many people now say that Red Velvet will never top Bady Boy, but I don’t think this is their best, and it wasn’t their best when it first came out either. Every member has done better in both vocals and dance. On top of that, this is probably one of the least musically interesting tracks Red Velvet has done. There’s nothing risky here, nothing new. It feels like it was made for mass appeal, and that’s not why I came to love Red Velvet. I just feel that this song is overhyped, and there is so much more intrigue and excitement to be found in Red Velvet’s discography. In the end, although I still enjoy it, Bad Boy kind of falls flat

#11. Automatic

Really, we’re being this controversial again, already? Fine. Let me clear though, I really like this song, and I am 1000% aware of the fact that me ranking it so low is entirely because of my own music preferences, and that it is not an accurate reflection of this song’s quality. This song is an incredible R & B style song, I just don’t really enjoy that style. In general, I prefer Red Velvet’s Red side to their Velvet side simply because I really like upbeat and energetic songs. But this song is great, and for how little I usually enjoy this genre of music, I really enjoy this song. It’s sensual, flowing, sexy, and surprisingly catchy for this style of music. And the music video is incredible, talk about iconic visuals. So yeah, this is a great song. I just have weird preferences.

Also, this is the best blonde era, hands down.

#10. Peek-A-Boo

Fun fact, this is where my current ranking changes DRASTICALLY from my previous one, which I will put at the end just for comparison's sake (because this ranking will probably change again). This song used to be in my number 2 position, and I still love it, but there are a few reasons why I moved it lower. Mainly, it’s the fact that this is one of the songs I listened to way too much. So it’s gotten a little stale to me, but nowhere near as stale as Bad Boy and Red Flavor have become. I think that, except for maybe Yeri and Joy, the members all had better visuals in Bad Boy era, and when I first got into Red Velvet I thought that those two eras occurred right after one another, which isn’t true. But the creepy concept is honestly one of my favorites Red Velvet has done, they pull off the creepy almost emotionless stares so well, as you can see in both this and Russian Roulette, but I wish that energy could translate over to the stage better. Overall, I love this song and it’s absolutely amazing, with some great visuals, and it is definitely quintessential Red Velvet. Also, he dance is beyond iconic and the post-chorus section is a bop that gets stuck in my head approximately 20 times a week. We love a legendary creepy bop.

#9. SAPPY

Does this count as a title track? No? Too bad, I’m ranking it as one anyways. So, I love SAPPY. It’s iconic, easy as that. I genuinely think this might be the most fun Red Velvet song in their entire discography, I’ve never listened to it and been in a dull mood. I wish that they promoted it more because I feel like very few non-reveluvs have heard it and that is a CRIME against humanity. This song is upbeat, it’s catchy, it has some ICONIC vocals (this is probably Joy’s most vocally impressive song, but every member sounds amazing) and it’s genuinely just such a lively song, it feels surreal and bubbly and chaotic in all of the best ways. It also has such an interesting and unique sound, and the visuals in the music video are extremely fun and bright and absolutely perfect for this song. This song sounds like someone took chaos as a concept and made it a song, in the very best way. What an underrated bop.

Everyone also looks good here, especially Joy. Kudos to the hairstylists

#8. Russian Roulette

It was really hard to choose ranking positions between this song and Peek-A-Boo (although I did ended up putting SAPPY right in between them). However, I finally decided that Russian Roulette wins out over Peek-A-Boo, and that’s mostly attributed to the iconic music video. I think Russian Roulette is one of my favorite music videos period, let alone of Red Velvet’s MVs. The deadset stares in every frame, the creepy doll-like positioning and facial expressions of the girls, the juxtaposition between the violent off-screen murders and cutesy colors, outfits, hair, and environment. The abnormal, bright and colorful hairstyles of this era are so much fun and add perfectly to the vibe of the song and its video. Also, this song works great being cutesy while performed live, and great being creepy in the video. The dance might be one of my favorite RV dances, behind Dumb Dumb and a little above Peek-A-Boo. The outfits are a little strange in some live events, but that kind of works with the almost surreal nature of the song. On top of that, I just love the song itself! I still love listening to it today and I think it’s a really fun and energetic listen. Overall, this is just an iconic song, and you can definitely tell why it used to be my #1 favorite.

#7. Power Up

Wait, this song was controversial? Why? What? Well, unlike apparently most people, I loved this song on first listen. Unpopular opinion, this song is a more iconic summer bop than Red Flavor ever was. Power Up > Red Flavor. This song is like sunshine personified, it’s so upbeat and summery and bright and fun. The bright visuals in the music video are AMAZING and every member is glowing and gorgeous, they all look so healthy and happy. I can’t watch them perform this song without smiling. And hearing Wendy say reveluv still makes me happy every time I hear it. This song is everything it needed to be and more, it is a summer anthem and I can’t believe there are people who don’t appreciate it. The dance is bouncy and cute and fun and it perfectly fits the song, and the outfits are iconic as well.

Long story short, this song makes me happy, and I love it.

#6. One Of These Nights

This song really snuck up on me, if we’re being honest. I thought it was pretty at first, and then I heard an MR removed of it and WOW, the vocals in the song are really phenomenal. Every single member sounds amazing and the harmonies in this song are absolutely breathtaking. Seulgi and Joy specifically sound amazing in this song, their tone is perfect for it. The vocals, the outfits, the visuals are all so beautiful and somber compared to the rest of Red Velvet’s discography, and it’s done so well. So I already really liked this song, and it was definitely my favorite velvet song as soon as I heard it. Then I read the comments on the music video and, from there, I read about the heartbreaking tragedy that is the Sewol Ferry Incident and this song took on a whole new meaning. It’s a pretty widely accepted theory that this song is about that incident, and having that knowledge puts the music video and the song’s lyrics into a whole new perspective. This song is beautiful, haunting, and heart-breaking. Listening to it now almost makes me cry, every time. The depth of emotion that it creates is hard to describe. It is not only an amazing song, but a beautiful, painful, and important reminder, and tribute.

#5. Really Bad Boy

On to something a little less heartwrenching now, let’s talk about my maybe controversial RBB ranking! Yet another song I don’t understand the dislike for. Seriously, I love everything about this song. The cheesy horror movie aesthetic of the iconic music video, the painfully 80s outfits with glitter galore, the sharp, bold and striking choreography, the sort of grungy punky vibe of everything, it’s iconic, it’s everything that I live for. Also the VOCALS, the belting in this song is unparalleled in the rest of Red Velvet’s discography, Seulgi and Wendy especially really shine vocally in this song (and I love me some quality Wendy and Seulgi vocals). Also, Yeri’s backing vocals through the bridge are amazing. This song also sounds so cool, there are some really great ad-libs and harmonies and the brass instruments add such a cool vibe to the song. The purposefully repetitive and even shallow lyrics feel so cheeky and playful, this song has the cool, untouchable vibes of Bad Boy with all of the liveliness I feel like that song lacked. So yeah, I love this song and will be repeating the words “you’re a bad boy and you’re bad for me” for the rest of my life

#4. Zimzalabim

If Rookie and Happiness had a chaotic and mischevious child, it would be Zimzalabim. And WOW, this song has worked its way into my heart, and my top 5 favorites, in such a short amount of time. I love it, and I WILL defend it against the entire world for the rest of my life if needed. I don’t care, this song is amazing. The structure is incredibly unique and interesting, and the unexpected rises and falls really demonstrate the rollercoaster theme. The rap section in this song, as short as it is, is great, the harmonies are great, the chorus is beyond catchy, the drop is iconic, and the ending is an incredible accumulation of the song as a whole. The instrumentation is so interesting and unique, with the gritty bass, the cowbells, and the thrumming percussion. The outfits are WEIRD, and kind of ugly, they don’t match, they don’t make sense, and god damn it that is so perfect for this chaotic, high-energy, non-traditional song. This song gets me hyped up like no other, it feels like the older, wiser, and cooler sibling of Happiness and the vibe of the song really matches the message the song is trying to put across.

Zimzalabim baby

#3. Rookie

I love Rookie, so damn much. And I did NOT love this song from the start, it was once in my bottom 3 of my title tracks ranking. And here we are today, with the song in my top 3. Oh, how the times have changed. I love almost everything about this title track. It is so hyped up and energetic, from the first few seconds of the music video you KNOW you are in for it. Everyone sounds great on this track, especially Irene, who got more lines than usual for a title track without a rap section, her voice fits this song so well. The ad-libs throughout the song, the energetic, quick paced non-lyrical chorus, the amazing vocals from every member, the iconic visuals of the music video, the Alice in Wonderland-esque concept, it creates such a fun, surreal, playful, vibe to this song. The music video and outfits feel chaotic and out of the ordinary and it all blends into an iconic concept. This is the original zimzalabim, a unique song with a repetitive non-lyrical chorus, an iconic Wendy high note to close out the bridge accompanied by Seulgi and Joy vocals, rounded out by a beautifully mischevious vibe from the members and, of course, it is the original controversial Red Velvet title track. On top of that, this song has one of my favorite Red Velvet dances, and some iconic hairstyles (Irene and Seulgi with red hair is what we didn’t know we needed). In this case, the original truly does take the cake… the ice cream cake.

(I’m so sorry)

#2. #Cookie Jar

I feel like this ranking is, a surprise. Then again, this song is kind of the combination of all of my favorite elements from the other Red Velvet tracks. The slight creepiness in the music video from Russian Roulette and Peek-A-Boo. Some amazing vocals from Seulgi in the bridge (can you tell my bias) and amazing Wendy ad-libs throughout, an iconic dance move that fits the song (aka the hashtag thing that I can’t stop doing), an accumulation of all the elements in the final chorus, some incredible visuals in an amazing music video, some of my favorite hairstyles from each of the members, and an overall fun, upbeat, MISCHEVIOUS vibe can we tell what I love from Red Velvet yet? The section at the end of the bridge where most of the instrumentals fall out is SO well executed and perfectly builds up to the final chorus. I am absolutely obsessed with the guitar in this song, which seems to make up most of the instrumentation along with some snapping and clapping as percussion, it makes the song feel almost jumpy, and the drop right before each chorus with the words “#Cookie Jar” is absolutely perfect. Yeri and Irene even get some great lines in this one, including lines in the chorus! HELLO! I can never talk enough about how disgracefully underrated this song is and that’s a fact. So give in to temptation, put your hand in the cookie jar, and give this bop the love it deserves!

#1. Dumb Dumb

This is not only Red Velvet’s best song on their entire discography, but it is also possibly one of the best songs in all of k-pop. Change, my, MIND. Spoiler alert, you can’t. Past me was SLEEPING on this iconic, legendary bop. I had it ranked at number 10, what was I doing. This song, video, concept, everything about Dumb Dumb is genuinely the best content we have ever gotten from Red Velvet, period. Every. Single. Member. Is killing every single second they are in the spotlight. OR OUT OF IT. From the second this song begins it is iconic, interesting, energetic, unique, and absolutely captivating. On another note, this is Red Velvet’s best dance. Hands down. The pure energy in every second of the dance is insane, even when the members are mostly or completely still. Also, this song has the best rap in any Red Velvet song. Irene, Joy, and Yeri all get a section of rap (even if Yeri’s is later in the song and somewhat smaller) and each section is perfectly tailored to their tone of voice and style of rapping, it’s incredible. The chorus is belted fairly high but, unlike Rookie, it never sounds too bright or nasally. Their voices are strong, supported, and powerful, they pack a punch that perfectly delivers the power behind this song. The repeated “dumb dumb”s between each section almost become an instrument of their own, somehow managing to never feel repetitive or unnecessary. The tones rising in the background of the verses, the clapping as percussion, the trumpets that make brief appearances, it all adds more and more energy into this song until it almost feels like it’s going to burst. Not a single member is slacking in this era, they are all at the top of their game in vocals, visuals, and dancing. The outfits in the MV and the live stages for Dumb Dumb are also incredible; the casual, almost sporty but still, often, unique and abnormal clothing that emphasizes the strength behind the song and the self-confidence it emulates. This song is empowerment, through and through. In my opinion, this song also has the best bridge of any Red Velvet song, although it’s hard to even decipher which section of this song is which because there is SO MUCH going on. The transition from Irene and Joy’s incredible rap with the rising tone that falls into the section of Yeri singing, until the buildup begins again with another rising tone. Finally, we hit the climactic moment of the bridge with Seulgi and Wendy’s harmonized belting, a moment that still blows me away every time I hear it. This song is powerful, it is fierce and sharp and intense and unique, it is the best gift Red Velvet could have given us, and I don’t know if I’ll ever be over it.

I’m dumb over this brilliant song.

Previous Ranking (May)

1: Russian Roulette, 2: Peek-A-Boo, 3: #Cookie Jar, 4: Really Bad Boy, 5: One of These Nights, 6: Ice Cream Cake, 7: Bad Boy, 8: Power Up, 9: Happiness, 10: Dumb Dumb, 11: Rookie, 12: Red Flavor, 13: Automatic

#red velvet title tracks #title track rank #red velvet #red velvet comeback #red velvet ranking #bae joohyun #kang seulgi #son seungwan #park sooyoung #kim yerim #irene #wendy #seulgi #joy #yeri

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migleefulmoments · 5 years

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In case you were feeling compassion for the CCers yesterday, you can stop

Below you will find a true heinous CCconversation from this morning. What is truly shocking about the fandom is that they have learned absolutely nothing from their meltdown yesterday. Yesterday Darren Criss did something that was 100% consistent with what we know about him and what we have seen in the last 9 years. He did something he has told us he was going to do for over 1 year. He did something he talked about semi-regularly when he did press for his various activities. Yet, the CC fandom had no idea it was really coming. They had a meltdown last night that was almost hard to watch because of the anguish. There were a lot of shellshocked people with only themselves to blame. I feel compassion for the young kids who didn’t know better but many CCers are older..they just wanted to believe and the CC leaders have spent 9 years grooming the fandom; teaching them how to pick apart a photo or video and what standard techniques are to be applied to debunk the “loving couple” messaging PR wants us to see.

Photos:

is he standing next to her?

is he touching her?

are his hands pulled away from her body? Is he leaning away from her?

can you find a photo in the lot that shows him bored, angry, disinterested? Use that one exclusively.

do his lips touch hers?

do his lips line ups with hers?

is he holding her hand correctly

is she grabbing his neck with her claws

Videos:

did he walk away from her?

did he look away from her?

is he interested in anyone else?

is she forcing him to kiss her?

did he kiss for only a few seconds?

Is Ben around? What is Ben doing?

did they walk the NORMAL way, side-by-side, hand-in-hand?

was Darren smiling the entire time?

Contract:

Can the contract be used to justify anything Darren is doing?

Can the “Ricky wants to ruin Darren’s life” trope be applied?

Can PR be blamed?

Let’s talk about the Board of Directors: they spent 2 days having anxiety attacks and crying and were ultimately gobsmacked when People Mag published the announcement. They raged for hours...writing good bye letters. None of them spent any time at all thinking about WHY they were so shocked, WHY Darren “deceived” them and WHY they didn’t see it coming when it was plain as day to the Miarrens. None of them contemplated why the Darren they saw last night and ccDarren are so very different. The answer is obvious to us but clearly not one of them has the self-reflection skills needed to take a good, hard look at themselves....except in their narcissism. Their narcissism is on display in all its glory. Why do the hard work when It’s so much more fun and easier to come back and rage about Mia. THIS is the hot mess they came back with today:

flowersintheattic254 (My comments italicized)

Wedding based on Fandom not feelings.

You know what gives this away as a sham apart from the lack of rings, B/en’s face and the private licences is M herself. I’m pretty sure the pics were from before the wedding. My fan who ran into them told me she saw them, she thought, before the wedding. Joey had a beer or a drink in hand that seems weird if the wedding just ended and I honestly can’t imagine them getting married in a hotel unless it was something super historic and gothic. Mia’s ring was on her right hand- usually where brides put their ring so the wedding band can be slipped one so PreWedding pics. Ben was in the bridal party so I am sure he was over whatever feeling he has for Mia (eye Roll font)

When you seem to put your whole outfit together with a mind to pissing off and mocking our fandom. You know it more about her love of herself.

The lank hair with the pink, the outside underwear corset, but the boots which for me are the giveaway especially as we complained when she kicked him in her black versions. That’s aimed at US.

Her whole attire speaks nothing about D but says a ton about her and her motivations. Most brides pick a dress they love btw. The Darren they hate always looks and acts the same way. When will it dawn on them that is because that is the real Darren.

flowersintheattic254

Update - I missed this but an account on IG didn’t.

They chose a wedding date of 16 Feb.

Making it 216

Yep totally about upsetting fandom. It’s actually hysterical that she was that ‘pressed’ to do all of this, but I’m touched she did the planning with us in mind as D gave her power of attorney on the arrangements. If you read this M 👋.

inccwebelieve

Thx for sharing is was me 👍 spread the news that i hate her more then befor didnt know that was possible

scorpiowoman1107

If this relationship were real she wouldn’t need to mock and / or stage thing to piss us off. What other SO of a celeb does that? None! Hell even past beards of closed celebs did not engage in such behavior. She’s pressed as you said @flowersintheattic254, to say the least.

ajw720

Not to mention, their “friends” were posting pics on SM yesterday afternoon in causual attire to taunt us when the wedding was happening. They played games with us for days. And this what D has chosen, I don’t think what he wants, but he made his bed and only he can lie in it

#WTF #narcissist #narcissist personality disorder #CC #CCer #CC fandom #CC blog #CCers #CC family #Darren Criss #MIa Swier #Darren and Mia get married #It isn't about you

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twiddlebirdlet · 5 years

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Post Digest

I had so many posts yesterday, and I could not possibly answer them all in this lifetime. My apologies for not addressing these, but here they are.

The words belong to the anonymous original writers. They do not reflect my opinions. My posting of them doesn’t imply any endorsement.

· Anonymous said:

Chris really is trash for ruining another relationship maybe him and Jordyn woods can join the home wrecker club

· Anonymous said:

Mood, give up. People will blame you, the girl, the weather, everything but Chris, who could have easily avoided any assumption by not taking the pics. Pics with kids, pic of dog, hospital visits, videos for sick children all this is good PR and he used in the past. But where is the good on taking pics with dancers? They were not fans. He is not helping to make them being respected or less objectified. He is not bringing any discussion about their work conditions to the table.

· Anonymous said:

People saying this is nothing how do they explain her boyfriend deleting all of her pix? If it was nothing if she wasn’t with him why is boyfriend reacting that way?

· Anonymous said:

That girl was so completely lusting after Chris in her pics and posts that I think she absolutely would jump out of her current relationship if Chris so much as blinked her way. She was going to go anywhere he was. I will wait to see what happens but it looks like Chris may have made another poor decision. Why is this man so intelligent in some things but when it comes to women he is just so way off? If he thought SSH was bad, just wait for a young social media millennial. Disaster.

· Anonymous said:

Bella & her bf are still following each other on Instagram. Maybe he deleted those photos of her as a way of protecting her? Maybe he didn't want to make his Insta private & thought this would be a better way of doing things. In any case, he doesn't seem angry enough at her to unfollow her. But I don't think they broke up before the Chris thing, as he still had their professional couple photos up & they were still posting gushy comments to each other. So it's still weird and suspicious.

· Anonymous said:

What is up with Chris and taken women

· Anonymous said:

So I guess Chris really is a home wrecker

· Anonymous said:

I just want to say thank you for all the information you're providing about this whole Chris situation. I'd rather have the full (or as full as we can get it) story with all the pieces together so I can make up my own mind what to think, vs bits and pieces and people misreporting information that they heard third hand, etc. So your summary post with receipts was very much appreciated by me.

· Anonymous said:

To me the whole intern thing just seemed like she was trying to be linked to him judging by the times the ig pics went up. I guess everyone has their own opinions I know people who have basically said it was nothing and refused to talk about it but if it was someone else they would be all over it. It seems with him people pick and choose what issues of his they want to discuss. All of just seemed iffy especially know knowing that her bf deleted her pics. Hope you're have a lovely day.

· Anonymous said:

I’m worried about the people worried about your health. They’re so invested in this celebrity that they are policing your blog. He’s a successful, famous actor. He has a whole team of people to handle this. And, none of those people are contacting you...

· Anonymous said:

I don't get anons coming in here and complaining that you answering asks about the saturday night events is somehow blowing this thing up and causing drama. This anon should go to twitter where there are accounts that tag CE, JS, enty and provoking more and more ridiculous accusations, including Chris roofying Bella's drink etc. Twiddle at least sticks to things we can prove so if you wanna complain, go there and set these people straight. They make real damage not anonymous tumblr

· Anonymous said:

The boyfriend could just be fed up with her throwing herself at ce and then getting comments forcing him to go private. That would be enuf for a 20 yr old in a long distance relationship. Doesn’t mean she is shaking up with ce. He’s too paranoid to do that

· Anonymous said:

From what I've seen on Twitter, there's a little bit of talk about the burlesque aspect of it (mostly "Ugh, you're all such prudes, get over it!") but no one seems to be picking up on the intern part of it except for like 3 people. I'm torn. I kind of want to see him get shit for this, because he was very stupid and irresponsible, but OTOH I'd hate to see what kind of PR crap his people will pull up to distract everyone. A PRomance with Brie Larson, perhaps.

· Anonymous said:

Just a funny coincidence but it appears her (ex) bf and Chris share the same birthday lol. But either way not looking good. We can only speculate but it looks like her ex bf/bf didn't like her behavior towards him or something really did go down. 🦊

· Anonymous said:

I think everyone needs to accept their portion of responsibility in this situation. The people that harassed or contacted the interns, the girl and the performers need to respect boundaries. I understand you posts Anons, but you also decide which and how many. Yesterday you provided a platform and it had consequences, people felt emboldened and crossed lines. I think everyone can learn from this experience and correct their future behavior.

· Anonymous said:

So you keep saying your not sure if mark was there when multiple people keep saying he was.YOU keep saying that the pics were taking at the same or about the same time but theres no proof that they were. YOU keep putting out info that isnt accurate or just coincidental. that girl bf realise his gf is a thirsty ass and she got what she got but it doesnt mean anything happen between her and chris. NOTHING HAPPEN WITH THE INTERN STOP SPREADING SHIT!!

· Anonymous said:

I think the bf just wanted people to stop harassing him about her so he did that instead of privatize. Seemingly less like a breakup.

· Anonymous said:

It’s possible and probable her boyfriend deleted any pictures of her/them because he was tired of being harassed and getting bombarded with comments. He still follows her. He could have just muted the comment section, but maybe he was hoping by doing that it would help this all die down, and for people to lose interest. Which is laughable, because this particular fandom has a hard time letting go. Either way, I don’t necessarily think this is the beginning of a new relationship for Chris.

· Anonymous said:

Sending you love! I truly enjoy your blog and your commentary. What you wrote about your struggles with OCD resonates with me (I had anxiety issues as a teenager. Mild in comparison to some, but they dominated my life). I will try not to clutter your inbox from now on, but, please know you are appreciated and I love the discussions we have here.

· Anonymous said:

I think that putting the blame on this or other blog is a total waste of time. You know what would have avoided all this? Not taking those pics. How hard would be for him to STOP doing something that is doing no good to him? As you said, nothing positive comes out of this. He is not attending the ask of a cute kid. He is not visiting a hospital. He is helping a club to promote their name, something totally uncessary for an actor who reached his fame.

· Anonymous said:

The intern thing didn't make the rounds in the internt, but the meeting with Dan Creshaw did. Chris is being criticized for that and for the twitter interaction.

· Anonymous said:

Oy, its looking like she really did risk it all. Dumb childish mentality, what did anybody honestly expect from this situation? That poor boyfriend.

· Anonymous said:

I don't think it's a proof that something happened between her and Chris but for sure her bf (probably now ex) didn't aprove her behaviour and probably he thinks that some limits were crossed. I have to admit that I would not like to have a bf acting like that around a famous woman or any other woman and leaving traces in SM which is worse. I really, really hope that Chris is smart enough to stay away from that or another kind of fame will get attached to him besides the "f*ck boy" image.

· Anonymous said:

WHOA! Deleting all her pics? Does that mean Chris successfully ruined another relationship??? Whuut!?

· Anonymous said:

You are very kind and your head is definitely on straight. You’re less of an “opinion” blog and almost more of a news blog anyways. Don’t listen to the haters. You aren’t being overly invested, cruel, silly, or anything else. I’ve always found you to be fair.

· Anonymous said:

I looked at mark’s following list and he followed one other intern (a girl) who was also in the city but didn’t post from the box!

· Anonymous said:

Tbh, good for her bf-her behavior (the comments) were completely inappropriate IF in a relationship, long distance or not. Unbelievably disrespectful to him. Hope her thirstiness was worth losing a relationship and (maybe) an internship. I am several years older, but there is no way I would have behaved that way during my college internship. Morality clauses apply to personal time as well.

· Anonymous said:

Omg he deleted every pic with her. So now we know for sure that something happened that night lol

· Anonymous said:

And now apparently twitter thinks harpy was there with Chris and they're back together. Oh for fuck's sake!

· Anonymous said:

It's funny because many Chris instagram fan accounts just share the pic of him and the black singer/stripper but skip posting the other with the women group with clothes close to the nothing that they find I guess too trash for share with their followers in saying Chris with a fan in NYC without details.

· Anonymous said:

In the name of everybody sorry for the large number of asks we sent you and the tiredness we,people agree or not agree, have caused you. We don't think when we send you an ask that you will receive many, everybody, after seeing one and your answer, wanting share their opinion about what an anon or you said even if it's for exprime our agreement. It's a circle without end. I hope you had a good night. Let's forget that,this girl is history now,the fire is extinguished now. Kiss

· Anonymous said:

I've been seeing this gifset on my dashboard lately from Chris' interview captioned "I'm smarter than I look". No idea if the quote is real because I've never seen this particular interview but I think given the turn of events of the past few days it's appropriate to say "no, Chris, you aren't" LOL

· Anonymous said:

Ok, I can't believe I'm saying this, but this whole messy situation really turns me off. I've always known Chris isn't a saint, that he's NOT Steve Rogers irl, going to clubs like The Box is not a new thing for him, but he should've known better. I want to believe he's not that dumb, but he's THAT dumb. This is really upsetting and I'm so disappointed. After all those good days working on a serious project in DC, does he really not care about his image being sleazy like that? Damn it, Chris.

· Anonymous said:

So Chris alone went to greet the dancers? From what Manuel submitted, that’s what it seems like. She wasn’t there with him and his friends exactly, but somehow found out where they were and met up with them? I’m so over talking about this. Idk how you’ve done this all day Twiddle. My bedtime prayer is dedicated to you tonight.

· Anonymous said:

Thank you Twiddle for taking your time to answer here and on DM. I know you also do it so that you will be best informed to answer any questions here, we appreciate that some took the time to gather more information for the rest of us. It seems like at the end of these gossip we all end up confirming our first guest. I feel we shouldn't give this girl more room. My conclusion for the day is either he never thought that girl was that thirsty or he's really just dumb. I'm going with cute but dumb

· Anonymous said:

It's not a great look for him to be pictured at places like that, particularly when he's employed by a family-friendly company like Disney. He's been obsessed with protecting his image ever since he got the role of Cap. Btw, I am not surprised he goes to places like that but you'd think he'd be smart enough not to get his picture taken.

· Anonymous said:

Have people forgotten that one of these thirsty hanger-on types (just like this intern seems to be) is someone who sent a video of Chris to tmz? I mean, he wasn't doing anything bad-just partying it up after a super bowl and he looked like a drunk frat boy. But even that got a dodger pic response. My point is that he should be smarter about people around him, especially when he's drunk.

· Anonymous said:

Denying pics comes with its own risks. You don’t want to piss people off because that can have its own dangers. This has happened with other celebs. There have been several occasions where his pics have been in return for free bottle service or other perks. I am not saying that is the case here though. Not trying to argue with you mod, just saying it’s not black and white. A lot of mistakes were made here and the worst part is how avoidable it was. But most seem to hinge on Bella’s actions. 🐩

· Anonymous said:

Mark follows a few of the interns from DC, 2 of whom (Bella & another woman) posted from NYC Saturday night & this evening. Also a few of Mark's friends are NYC as well. It's not far fetched that going to The Box was his idea. Also Mark would've needed to make a reservation to ensure they got in.

· Anonymous said:

I think you hit the nail. What Chris gets from taking those pics? For sure he is being polite and the people involved get happy but taking how society works and how many people think and what they can do with that information, he got nothing good on posing for those pics. And saying that is just pointing out and realising how society works. People are hypocrite and mysoginist.

· Anonymous said:

I feel you on the eating away at your Sunday. It’s not my blog and even *I* can’t believe how much time I’m devoted to this, much less the swamp you must be dealing with. Really appreciate your views and your time. I feel so silly that I’ve gotten so caught up in it but it’s like a car accident you can’t turn away from. Get some rest and lots of love. 🐩

· Anonymous said:

People been posting Info but clearly no one believes it. That tree anon mention it.

· Anonymous said:

People who are saying Mark was there and that she was there with a group of friends are just assuming as much as anyone else who says Chris and the girl were there with each other. The only thing we know for sure is that they were both on the same place, at the same night, around the same time, after meeting the day before. We can't deny that.

· Anonymous said:

I’d like to say this girl blew her chances but this is the same guy who gave MK & JS multiple chances despite their fame whoring ways. Whatever it is it won’t last long but I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re seen together again. Too bad. His political project was exciting. Now it’s tainted because he’s proven what a lot of people thought of him to be true.

· Anonymous said:

You need to let it go now. This is a non story. It’s looking more like two separate trips were in the works and it was a “oh hey us too maybe we’ll see you we were thinking of checking out this club” now apparently you think because he’s ancient and she’s an impressionable child and burlesque shows are akin to live porn he should have shut it down. But those of us in the common sense world see this for what it was. Which is a giant nothing. So tip to TMZ. Guarantee they will think the same.

· Anonymous said:

For gods sake. Read and post my second ask to you. Stop all this madness. Yes they know each other. That is it. They were at same club and of course hung out a little. So what They met at first dc meet I think. He was nice to her She was nice back. Nothing wrong with people meeting and being cool. Even if famous

· Anonymous said:

Maybe I should rewrite this but Your acting as they were they in DC together. They MET and photographed but wasnt there together as Your wording puts it. Like I said you dont know of they were backstage together. Pics can be upload at any time of the night . Your just jumping to conclusions like everyone else.

· Anonymous said:

The way some of you talk about women is so damn depressing ugh this fandom is on one today.

· Anonymous said:

Liked what the PR/crisis anon mentioned, that it's wrong to think Chris was uninvolved in JS and MK's stunts when he dated them. It's naive to think he is that helpless and easily controlled.

· Anonymous said:

What i really don't understand is how chris could have been so so dumb and didn't think of the consequences. Also his pr underestimated the whole situation. The girl was blatantly seeking attention and a story to tell, and any person with a brain would have got the danger of the all situation. I know that he loves partying but he was so superficial i can't even put into words. In my opinion the project has been hurt by this and everything happened today showed that.

· Anonymous said:

2/2) as if he wanted to do that. I doubt he asked, but was asked to do it. 3) The girl jumped on the chance to go backstage after the invitation and took the pic. 4) People put the pieces together because the girl was thirsty the day before and liked the attention she got from her friends but now there is a chance she ruined the trip a little as people ran to protect their privacy.

· Anonymous said:

I think if Chris wants to be taken seriously in what ever he decides to do. He needs to grow up and act his age and stop drinking as much and hang around different people that includes his friends from Boston. I feel most of his friends are just there for the ride including Tara. If he does ever get married she will have to trust him to no end.

· Anonymous said:

"it's not at all weird for people here on a blog that is predominantly about Chris to talk more about chris' antics than about anyone else's. It doesn't mean they're more worried or think what he's done is worse, it's just that this blog is a place to talk about him more than anyone else. Nice try though." Nice try what? If you read the full ask, as Chris's fan, I'm more concerned that's he's doing publicity pics with treasonous Nazis than hanging at a burlesque show w/ an intern. But you do you

· Anonymous said:

Hi! Sorry for this question but I just don´t understand what is going on here with Chris and this intern? I try to scroll down your page but I still don´t understand what has happened.

· Anonymous said:

Some who don't have problem that Bella flies to NY and post the picture at the same place where was Chris was the first to be offend that Jenny posts pic when she was at the same place that Chris whereas she was dating him. Be careful anons I'm not a pro Janey but people were rude with her when it was normal(even if she trolled), she was spending time with his boyfriend but when another women did the same, without dating him, they think it's okay. Why?

· Anonymous said:

I'm genuinely curious about what kind of impression he was trying to make on her? like you wanna hook up with this chick & you're letting her know that you like to gawk at other half naked chicks in your free time? Unfortunately this will never blow up, if his PR team can bury homewrecker scandal then they can bury anything.

· Anonymous said:

He seems to unconsciously be attracted to attention-seeking women who view him as a prize. I wonder if it’s a defense mechanism to prevent him from entering a serious relationship? Also, seriously, why wouldn’t you just make it clear to her that she shouldn’t post their escapades on social media from the start? Has he learned nothing from the Jobby debacle????

· Anonymous said:

Okay, from her comments and that pose, that's a girl that has no problem pushing someone out the way to get noticed. Like the pic, the side she was on was trying to get four people in, compared to the 3 on the other, so they had to turn sideways. I can see her making sure she was the one next to him. She didn't have to put her hand on his shoulder or stomach. She was trying for his attention. Did she get it? Don't know. Don't really care, but that's a college-age Janey. Just want that fame.

· Anonymous said:

Now that there are pics of them together and seeing the way she's posing with her hands on his chest and shoulder (it is very reminiscent of SSH, isn't it? Which would hurt if I was js lol) taken with the comments from her and her friends, all I can say is YIKES. And also, SMH. I am not a prude and I actually like burlesque and have been to The Box and fully expected him to hook up with somebody in DC ~on the low~ but even I can say this is not a good look for him. This boy will never learn.

· Anonymous said:

I’d like to think that he’d cut all ties to Bella now the he’s created a PR nightmare for himself, yet again. But considering for almost 3 years he was involved with a woman who was married when they originally met & got involved, I don’t think he will care. At least Jenny was almost the same age as him. He’s looking like an upgraded version of Dane Cook. For anyone who doesn’t know, Dane Cook’s girlfriend is 19, they started dating when she was 18, but were “friends” before that 🙄🤢

· Anonymous said:

The more I see from this girl the more I think she’s just a thirsty very immature little girl. And has no idea what she could potentially cost Chris. But he’s not innocent as she found out where he was going somehow.. And then posted it everywhere. Him or his team should have warned them to be cautious. And once they arrived not continued to entertain them and allow them backstage. An adult would have said nice to see you I’m going over here goodbye. Just another dumb d*#k brain decision.

· Anonymous said:

Oh, man... the boyfriend. I didn't even think about him. Can you imagine if the situation was reverse and her bf was acting that way towards a famous woman? I can imagine myself on that situation and I wouldn't like it. Even if she was just joking, which i don't think she was just doing that, it would be disrespectfull. I hope he is not hurt.

· Anonymous said:

Tks for the clarifycation for don't hate the player. So the girl had no shame to run after a man who has close the double of her age just because he is famous. Not sure she is again with her boyfriend but if she is, he would be very happy. It's clear,even if Chris makes bad choices in women, he wouldn't do nothing with her, discretion level he couldn't count on her. 5min with him and she shared and tried already trash things.

· Anonymous said:

And Chris, wearing that Red Sox cap in NYC will bring you a lot of unwanted attention ;)

· Anonymous said:

He was probably advised to stay away from twitter or he decided to do that.

· Anonymous said:

"He doesn’t deserve to be placed on a pedestal. " Literally no personal should be put on a pedestal. NO ONE. Mothers, fathers, friends, siblings, celebrities, every single person does stupid shit or has 'problematic' opinions. If you place anybody (family, friends, celebrities) on a pedestal, you're only looking to get disappointed.

· Anonymous said:

Lets be real-Chris is charming, he is a schmoozer. He was working the crowd in DC. If you are nice to someone, than you get your interview. This time he snagged a desperate fan girl & hung out with her. Not the type of guy I would ever want to be involved with. I could not be w/ a guy that wanted to go to those types of clubs. I think SSH didn't like it either. If this is the life he wants to live he will either have to find a person ok with it, change or be single. 10 steps back for me.

· Anonymous said:

I think she is just a fan with a crush and people are reading into this way too much. I don’t think that’s her hand on his shoulder and the pose is also something we’ve seen in comic con pics. Her “way good friend lol” to means she is joking because he isn’t. The “don’t hate the player hate the game” is again joking and means don’t be mad at her because she got to meet him and her friend didn’t. Was there flirting ? Maybe but we know he does with everyone and she might thought it was just her.

· Anonymous said:

I don't know how publicits work. Do they keep track of the mentions of their clients in SM? I wonder if Chris' publicist is already checking the situation. TIME FOR A DODGER PIC IF YOU ARE READING HERE!!!!!

· Anonymous said:

I find it hard to believe Chris would use this venture to go fishing for a college aged hookup or girlfriend. He mentions age and sneaking into bars in that video, so he also knew her (Bella’s) approximate age. I have no doubt he gets plenty of action and isn’t a saint, but this truly seems like she is playing up something that doesn’t exist. I question her more than him here, again, because he knows this is an important project with “real life” important people, not hollywood actors.

· Anonymous said:

Chris seems so immature. I know we want to put the blame on Janey and MK and all the other girlfriends but honestly am I the only that thinks maybe it’s HIM who’s the problematic one? Idk I’m young so maybe I don’t know what I’m talking about lol

· Anonymous said:

All this shot is crazy. I’m know Chris is no saint but come on! At least let her be in her late twenties or early thirties! That’s nasty because she’s two years younger than me!

· Anonymous said:

I’m not down for slut shaming in any regard. If anything happened, Chris was most definitely down for it. I just think it was dumb on her part, because she posted about it. Any potential employers could see this as a red flag. They don’t want to deal with the fallout of an employee causing a potential PR scandal, especially in the political world. Like if she did this once, she’ll prob do it again. I don’t think she’s gunning to be Mrs. Evans, but she def wanted to party and maybe hook up.

· Anonymous said:

There was another video of him sending a message to a different person on a different day. I don't think the fact she ask him to do that means anything

· Anonymous said:

For someone who seemed smart enough to get near a HW star, she sure was pretty naive and had no clue on how this fandom work LOL

· Anonymous said:

But what damage could be done ? It’s not like he did something bad. There is no need to excuse his behavior because nothing illegal was done it’s not like he was caught with a 17 year old in a “massage parlour”. You guys also need to stop with this “he is almost 40” like he was supposed to stop having fun and living his life at 35. If you don’t like it fine don’t live YOUR life that way but don’t be mad at him for refusing to just settle and die because he is “almost 40” .

· Anonymous said:

Not be agree with the places Chris frequents doesn't mean we think he is Cap. I have enought to hear this explication, like we are too much stupid to make the difference between the actor and the role he plays. With the conversation we have here, the majority of anons aren't teenagers i guess. A lot of people don't feel comfortable with the sex industry(porno,stripclub or the one night stand). It would be my brother,my neighbour,my cousin,it's a vice we don't understand not naivety about Chris.

· Anonymous said:

I don't have much to say about this situation but I wouldn't be surprised if it does turn out to be something sleazy. I mean, this is a guy who had an affair with his married co-star and just a few weeks after she actually left her husband for him, he was going to strip clubs & she was tweeting about how that upset her. So he's not always a stand up guy. Mostly I find it funny that even when the girl is a young intern not in HW, she's STILL an attention seeking type. His picker is so broken.

· Anonymous said:

Well, Chris definitely has a type.

· Anonymous said:

I don't think that people are being judgemental but more worried about the consequences that this could create. Internet can make things scalate too quickly and even change the facts. But let's be honest. Chris is white, male, straight, rich. He will be ok. But he has to stop taking pics in those places. Remember when he was dating JS and he went to a certain place in Canada? No pics, people left it behind. That's the right thing to do. No pics, so it's as if it didn't happen.

· Anonymous said:

Burlesque clubs in NYC are often listed in magazines as “things to do” in the city. They are seen as touristy activities. I can see a young girl being excited to go & asking for a hookup to get vip treatment. The place is not what you guys are making it out to be.

· Anonymous said:

Oh please. How should he have celebrated international women’s day ffs. This is starting to get ridiculous. Women. Including 20 year old ones are allowed to go to burlesque clubs. Get out of here with that comment. And if you’re going to invoke a feminist day maybe consider the fact that she went of her own volition? I mean this insinuation that he took a naive child to a strip club. It’s starting to get a bit unhinged up in here.

· Anonymous said:

Are we forgetting he got involved with a whole ass married woman? Lmao, this whole situation is not much of a stretch as people are making. I wish he’d grow up like all of you. He talks the talk of wanting to be a husband and father. He paints himself as a family man. Which yes, he is family oriented. But then he does things like this, which are unfortunately also on brand given his past. Megan, his publicists names I believe, better be getting paid time and half putting out these fires lol.

· Anonymous said:

Right but this is like barely a scandal. We’re just focused on it and there are some social media comments. So for all those saying he should be seen doing serious things umm he is? For the casual fan his serious image is 100% in tact. And my guess is will stay that way. This will blow over in 48 hours tops. It’s not getting any traction other than gossip corners of the internet. Being seen seriously doesn’t mean living like a monk ffs. He didn’t do anything wrong, y’all just dramatic and judgy.

· Anonymous said:

I think we can all agree no matter what the reality might be, the optics aren’t great. If him &his friend are trying to get this new project off the ground in DC, and hes being photographed in a burlesque club in NYC in the same vicinity as DC interns, the DAY AFTER giving interviews, the optics are awful. Politicians would be quick to distance themselves from their project and with those hes already met, potentially wouldn’t give him their time again, especially if their interns are involved.

· Anonymous said:

fans saying he should live his life however he wants-nobody is saying he shouldn't. But people shouldn't be naive enough to think that optics don't matter. They matter a lot.

· Anonymous said:

If the other interns were there they were smart not to post about it. Like that other anon said I imagine the people in D.C. will not be happy about this I’m sure there are social media rules about how to behave.

· Anonymous said:

Mark's been to The Box before, he's posted stories from his trips there.

· Anonymous said:

Some are ok to see a 38 years old man having habits in strip,nightclub and before Playboy party. Good. Some women don't like men like it!Chris or not Chris! I find it perverse,it's all. Frat boys aren't my type of men and great my man isn't like it. And i don't see Chris change when he will be married. There will always be a Mark or an Adam for ask him to go. Scott seems to enjoy trashy club but Zack too so they go as a couple. Maybe am i too prude 😒

· Anonymous said:

This truly blew up fast. Not a Pats fan, but a few years ago, Edelman hooked up w/ a girl he met out partying & she posted a pic of them in bed the next morning on Snapchat. I’m not saying that Chris hooked up with her, we will never know & honestly it’s no one’s business. But both situations definitely seemed opportunistic, but at least with this one people are holding Chris accountable too. The other girl got slut shamed majorly. Like girls, you don’t have to post everything on social media.

· Anonymous said:

Even if there were more interns there, even if Mark was there with Chris... if they went with the interns it's still not a good look. They are both near their 40's. It's a no to rang out with 20's, principally in that kind of enviroment that revolves around sex. This could be used to damage his image, his career, this could be used to damage their initiative about the political site. It just take one article or one tweet from a Trump supporter with many followers for that.

· Anonymous said:

She may or may not have been the only intern with him. She may or may not have ended up with him last night. This time it’s slipped on social media. Imagine all the other times it hasn’t! Disappointed if he’s on the same Leo, Cary Fukunaga and Jake train but are we surprised? Women around his age think differently, and clearly he’s not settling down this minute. Wonder what else would leak. I’ll be here with my tea and popcorn.

· Anonymous said:

This doesn’t look good, but at the same time I feel bad for this girl and her BF, fellow interns, friends, etc. Suddenly a rabid fan base is combing through their every move trying to play detective. I get the curiosity, I’m curious too, but I know how people overreact. And while most are fine, already people are crossing the line and commenting. Not a kick on you, just kinda crazy the lengths that some go to. I’m so glad I grew up without social media for most of my life.

· Anonymous said:

don cheadle once saying on a talk show that the cast of the avengers(including chris of course) all went to a burlesque bar in london. ALL of them. it's not a crime...or is it??? and as for that bella chick going wit him?? who the hell wouldn't go if we were invited? good for her.

· Anonymous said:

I feel that a conveniently timed Dodger video (or photo) is imminent. Or will we go really old school with a video for a sick child? Some sort of distraction from the current (I agree ,totally inappropriate) drama. Thing is that sort of tactic will only work for so long, less and less people will forget each time. While there's no problem visiting a burlesque club,hell I've been myself, it's the company you take to the club that should be more carefully considered. Not a smart move.

· Anonymous said:

Of course he has pr. But people don’t understand how pr works. He doesn’t clear every private dumb decision with them and ask for professional pr advice. He lives his life (and makes dumb mistakes clearly!) but typically a professional pr team isn’t involved unless it affects him professionally, like blows up into a scandal affecting his image and work. They don’t babysit his private life. We’re all fired up about it on our corner of the internet but we’re not really at a true scandal.

· Anonymous said:

People were rightfully dragging Cavill for dating a 19 year old.Chris went to a strip/ burlesque club with a young girl (since one woman posted about them on the birthday video we know they were there together) and there are people still thinking this is ok? (Not saying you do mood) He is stupid many times: one for doing it, one for thinking that is ok, one for leaving traces of it.Oh, wait.The girl is the one who left the traces. That remember me of someone else who used to leave proofs behind.

· Anonymous said:

Ok. I remember when him an Janey broke up, and a few weeks later he was in Houston for the Super Bowl. Him and his friends met some girls at a party, and he invited some of them back to the house with them. Some videos were uploaded. I don’t think this is that different. He went away for a trip, met a girl, and invited her along for the ride. More than likely this is nothing, and this girl is just being opportunistic. He really needs to pick ladies who can use discretion in the future.

· Anonymous said:

I think this is just an example of how celebrity image works. If you aren’t part of Chris fandom or gossip you have no clue. Just a basic google news search for him right now shows his DC rounds and Captain Marvel tweet. And that’s the image he wants to have (and I think genuinely does to a point). But isolated Instagram pics that don’t fit easily into a narrative are never going to get traction. Sure they’ll always be there because internet, but give it another week and it’ll barely be a blip.

· Anonymous said:

Chris is this guy who invite strangers during party/games night in his house or girls who his friends and him met to à bar for partying in friend's house(the tmz video after the end of round 1),it's seem to be how he is but he is the guy, in doing that who trust in everybody and after there are these kind of pic/video not flattering in not flattering place. I see some say he is single so he's enjoy it but he did it when he was with JS, her tweet where she was upset to his bf going to stripclub.

· Anonymous said:

This would not be blowing up if this bella girl had seemed to be in the company of the same friends at the box as she went to NYC with but that is not the case. Mark might have been with them too but why would this rocky lanes person only follow bella's IG and not Mark's too?

· Anonymous said:

All of this stuff is already on twitter and instagram tagging Chris, Megan and even Josh for some reason...

· Anonymous said:

Maybe i missed something, but what’s wrong with Chris taking pics in that club or wherever he was & why couldnt the girl(s) put the pic on her ig

· Anonymous said:

I haven't heard the video but the "my way good friend" comment seems like a joke. Like "this is my very famous friend who I just met and we're already close" And I think that if he denied those girls of taking a picture he'll be criticize, and considering what they work in and those outfits, seems to me like he ows them that little courtesy 🙄 cause

· Anonymous said:

My phone was acting weirs so I don't know if my last ask got through: this bella girl is in NYC with friends from DC and a guy named doug, who works in DC, and has also met Chris is with her. If you go through their IG stories they spent the day together but she is the only one of them to post from the box something.

· Anonymous said:

High end club or not, I checked the pic bellanovemberr posted with the women in her stories and their room seems cheap and have holes in the ceiling. It doesn't matter how expensive those places are, I always at least side eye how they treat women. Their employees deserve better and more respect.

· Anonymous said:

C'mon! It is one of the most exclusive night clubs in NY. I read the reviews of The Box on the web and there’s nothing wrong with attending such a place. It is not absolutamnete a local “hard”. as he quotes a review I found: “It’s definitely not a local hard if any of you are asking, it’s fun, crazy and weird … it totally reflects New York.”

And, maybe, it was the birthday video girl who invited Chris to go there.

· Anonymous said:

Do you think it’d be weird if Chris hooked up with a 20 year old...I mean look at Leo Dicaprio and his girlfriend

· Anonymous said:

Some people have serious problems with celebrities (here: Chris), pedestals, and managing their own fantasies and expectations. They build them up up up, and inevitably get SERIOUSLY broken hearted, hurt, and bitter, when the celeb in question obviously fails to live up to them. I mean, how can they? They're human, and almost never actually aware of these expectations. And I wish I could say that these fans are young and inexperienced, but a lot of them are adults, so...

· Anonymous said:

"Her IG is also followed by Mark Kassen, who is also in New York." Mark followed her the same day she posted that video.

· Anonymous said:

I'm not naive to think single/married man and other famous actors don't go to those places but how many of them have pics taken there? None. I checked the club and it's a sort of freak show club too and celebs are part of the customers. A Vanity Fair article mentioned some names. But no pics. So it doesn't stick with them. It can be said that it's hipocritical go there and refuse pics but it would be the best decision for his image. Let's bet he will post a pic of Dogder?

· Anonymous said:

Recently I came across this Don Cheadle interview on Seth Meyers, where he talked about him,Evans,RDJ,Hemsworth & Renner going to Burlesque club in London & nobody recognising them on street so I guess they all are into this kind of entertainment but only this guy is dumb enough to take pics

· Anonymous said:

That girl’s comment about SSH made me laugh! Hope he had fun at that burlesque bar! Establishments like those are sooo nice.

· Anonymous said:

The fact his boyfriend(ex now) deleted all the pics of her means himself discovered how is she is: at the same time she was dating him she doesn't have qualms to touch too much a man who has the double of his age, play like she said and pursue him in NY in a burlesque show, that imply naked women and alcohol when he was in far away of her. She didn't do all the things without have something in mind. She lost her boyfriend for have the attention of Chris for few hours. Well play girl.

· Anonymous said:

I don’t think that one who makes a happy birthday video like this to a girl for her twenties, surprising her age so young, then he decides to have fun with a girl of the same age or little more.

#twiddledigest

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abbarillonph · 3 years

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Hello, friends!

I was supposed to post this journal this 3ish in the morning but I fell asleep 😅 I was so tired to function yet I thought this might be a good read for those who need it. Yes, this one is again unsolicited but hello, I just want to share what I think can be of help to others 😊

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Hi, friends!

It's 2:31 am and I am here writing in the middle of the morning because suddenly a precious realization popped out into my head making me want to write this asap before it's gone.

Just a quick background story, I was so busy the whole day. I forgot to check my emails, check SMS, WhatsApp, and other communication tools that I use for work. Took a bath after dinner and fell asleep right after changing my clothes. Beautiful memories came out of my head while I was in deep sleep. I do not know if this happened to you before but I think I was in the middle of a sleeping session with a sleeping coach. Flashbacks of my childhood memories, sweet feats, and other things circled my head for some time. There is also this glimpse of the little me and my grandfather having a conversation about something and we were laughing so hard about it. Ugh, those were the good days. Suddenly, I was again pulled out to reality and realized those were just part of my dream.

I woke up, checked my phone, and found tons of messages to check. After sending replies to a few of them, I started to think of the dreams that I had. Have I thought about it before I slept? No. Have I thought of my tatay before I slept? No. What might be the reason for those memories to visit me suddenly? After some reflection, I realized maybe that dream wanted to tell me something. And that is to appreciate the life that I have, more than what I used to.

I was raised by two beautiful people and a loving family. We might not have the sweetest bones to say I love you each day, but the warmth I felt never runs out of flame. I, my brothers, and cousins, were used to battle tough times and maybe that's the reason why I easily get over with bad experiences. I am not used to dwelling on the things that I do not feel good about. But I know how to acknowledge and understand those kinds of things. Yeah, I feel depressed too. Failures and bad decisions make me cringe and even cry from time to time, but I happen to surpass them. Most of the time, I couldn't care less about something, not because I am not concerned about it, but because I try to see the goodness in it. You know, whine today and get back on the battlefield after.

Bottom line is, I just wanted to share, especially for those who haven't realized it yet, that life is just so beautiful. Most of the time, we are so busy thinking about how to make it through the day. Yet we tend to forget how wonderful the process is in making our day a "day". Yes, it's tough. The process is tough. Making decisions is tough. But the beauty in it is that we get to learn how to risk. That's why I am so proud of those people who can file that resignation, start a business, work on their dreams, or change careers in the middle of these hard times given that they also help provide for their family needs. Through risking we get to lessen the "what if's" and those "could have been". The flight's not easy. Making ways to make our goals happen can be a very lengthy draining journey. There will be scars, yes. But the scars bring out the extraordinary in us. And that's what makes life more beautiful and fulfilling.

Anyway, I am just so thankful for everything I have now. I am thankful for my parents, my family, my loved ones, the experiences, the good and bad times, for they brought about the better version of me. And oh, apologies if I tend to get easy even in rough times. Some people used to hate me for that and label me insensitive, but that does not mean I see your concerns less, than what I have in my baggage. I understand where your pain is coming from and I respect that. May you see the wonders of life even in its darkest times. Have a healthy mindset!

Good night!

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decoding1432 · 7 years

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Parents & Friends

Some stans have picked sides due to the parent’s behaviour on SM. Just the way some reflect all the hate collected from other stans onto the girls, it’s the same deal when it comes to their parents. Due to the fact that certain people can’t stand them, they decide to whether unstan or throw shit at the girls for it.

If you don’t think all these subtle shade going on is done with a purpose, try to give it a second thought.

The thing with this whole “shading” is that we've got two viewpoints:

From Camila’s side we saw how her parents stopped acknowledging the group & this happened since the fighting days. Now, let's put ourselves in the Cabellos’ shoes for a moment:

Imagine one day your daughter & her bandmates are played such a dirty trick & they cut communication. (Yes, I still believe this is how all went down). Anyway back to our scenario, now thanks to this they are not on speaking terms anymore. Your daughter releases her first solo project. It's important for her. However the people pulling the group strings are setting her in a very dark position. They are painting her in a very negative light in front of her fans.

Around those days, you log into your Twitter account several times & you see one fan turns against her. But as time passes by that one “fan” multiplicates & turns into 10 more haters. Then 50, then 100 & so it goes on & on. The situation worsens. Now, your daughter starts receiving hateful tweets 24/7. Your daughter starts getting sick. Her mental health state is seriously compromised but the people behind her career are doing nothing to help the situation, in fact they are making it more toxic for her. The issue with her bandmates is still not solved. The haters seem unstoppable at this point… Your daughter is mentally exhausted to a point where she describes her anxieties having anxieties.

That continues for a year. Along the way your daughter & her bandmates rekindled their bond. But it’s not all bright again since they must not give that away on camera. Another thing to add is that her bandmates are told not to defend her on SM to make the haters cease. Tell me are you happy with the brand & the poisonous environment they created around your daughter? The answer is obvious.

Let’s take a look at 5H’s angle. The way I see it, you’re a 40-50 year old & you spend your days bashing a 20 year old through Twitter... immaturity at its finest, right?

The tricky aspect here is that the parents’ wishes contradict their actions.

E.g. The parents want hatred to stop. Some like Mama Dre have expressed it & also it’s not even necessary to have this captured on a tweet to understand. Anyhow, they want the hate to cease but they encourage haters with their comments? Logic 2+2= potato

Now, personally the moment Mike started being shady that seemed fishy af to me. We’re talking about the same person that liked C’s departure letter (apparently he unliked it a little after, not really sure). Anyway, even if he didn’t, he was always all about the five girls & one of the non-problematic ones before the mess started unraveling. It makes sense that they started using him, not only to cut all ties with Camren but to influence the stans more strongly as well.

I asked lawyerlarry if this has happened with their boys, using their relatives to mold or push the narrative. This was her answer:

Since we don’t know what type of contract the girls are under we can’t know for sure if the parents are completely obligated. However one thing is for sure, clearly as a parent you’re going to want the best for your kid.

I’m bringing back some points I’ve written about this same subject in a past masterpost…

TV anon: “The thing about the parents is that THEY ARE PARENTS so they are gonna be protective and going to support their child 100%. Now, the moment the girls became legal, the parents are off negotiations or meetings so the only thing they know is what their daughters told them (and we don’t know how restrictive the contract is or even if the girls go and spill full deets to their parents) and you are right, their behavior is very contradictory, even from parents of the same child. Example, Lauren’s parents. Her dad it’s super supportive of the 5 of them and her mom is really over the top, to be honest lol. I have seen them throwing shade and then talking about supporting the 5 of them so maybe the shade is for the label. Or at some point it was for Camila but then they got informed and realized the situation, who knows. Let’s not forget, they don’t belong to the industry so they don’t know how to handle situations like these. Such as their children, they are too emotional. The parents and friends subject is tricky, cause who knows how much they know/or don’t know.”

Every single time I get worried I might be overthinking I return to the question told above: If they know they are only worsening their situation & attracting more toxicity toward their daughters why would they continue with this childish behaviour? Also the girls are not stupid, cause even if these were truly their parents’ actions don’t doubt they wouldn’t stop them.

Once more, this applies to their parents. When it comes to other relatives like Leilani, we're completely unaware of how close she's or not with Dinah, let alone the rest of the girls. She could be throwing shade in order to help them or simply she’s an attention seeker. For all we know a) she could have been told an alternate story along the way b) she is acquainted with only a very small part of the truth c) nothing at all & she knows just as much as we do.

When it comes to friends, let alone not their closest friends, we can coincide that they surely don’t know the story from head to toe but since they’re familiar with the girls at a certain extent they claim to for the sake of rts & attention. Dealing with the parents topic is ambiguous. “I think the parents ought to know everything, don’t fool yourself, why would the girls keep things from them?” Believe it or not, there’s always possibility. Here I consider a list of reasons why it COULD be true:

TV anon couldn’t have said it better…

When the girls became legal, procedures & regulations on the entertainment business gave a 180 degrees turn.

Non-disclosure agreements are a common thing in the industry.

Thus far none of the girls has shaded each other. Although, other people have accomplished a fraction of this “dirty work” for them. Such as friends, crew team members, & their parents. What I’ve caught on this culmination of “bitterness” is that it’s quite contradictory. To elaborate: Lucy shaded Camila around two or three weeks later by liking one IG post that was referring to C as “Canola”. What I found funny is how less than a month before, Lucy literally appeared on Dinah’s livestream hanging with her & Camila at their bus.

When I wrote that, the BB 5H issue hadn’t come out yet. Also these past few days, Lucy has publicly shown her support for Camila on SM. Also let’s add, she isn’t the only connection from Lauren that’s been doing this lately...

Now, some of LAND’s friends have publicly supported C. To me, it hints at the bigger picture that the ladies are in good terms. Some of you might disagree, maybe you consider they’re not friends any longer. Fine that’s your POV, but I don’t share that perspective. Not because I refuse to let go OT5 or anything remotely similar, but like I’ve said numerous times before, the fact that the girls knew about C leaving since 2015 & all the moments we had along 2016 I consider it a sign that they were able to somewhat fix whatever issues they had a year before.

Even if you agree or not with me on their current friendship status, you can’t deny the following: LAND doesn’t speak badly about Camila bts unlike what media wants to make us believe.

(Fun fact: Josh liked the following two days after the split announcement)

Enough with Josh (he stans Camila hard lol) Let’s check the rest of their friends...

I would insert here the videos of Simone & Sydney jamming to CITC, unfortunately I couldn’t download them but that doesn’t me we must not take them into account as well.

Next one might not be recent but reminder that Normani wrote as part of those thoughts: “I have love and respect for all four of my bandmates whether you choose to believe it or not” “I have to address foolishness manufactured by those that have absolutely no idea what goes on” “For those who enjoy speculating and creating drama that doesn’t exist, please keep in mind that myself and the other girls in the group are PEOPLE” etc...

Out of all their friends or people they’ve worked with, in my opinion, when Angie (their temporary guitarist after Ashlee left) commented on C’s IG post is the one proof that I would take over any of the above to pinpoint that THIS...

...doesn’t reflect any of THIS...

In conclusion, I believe that the relatives & some friends are attempting to help the girls as much as they can. I repeat, it’s uncertain how much the girls are allowed to tell them. But some things are undeniably true... They (parents & friends) know how fucked up this business is, they have seen how much the 5 ladies have struggled in these past years. If there’s something they can’t do, is stop this madness. They can’t break the system, they can’t protect them from this industry. But they can try to fulfill part of the “dirty work”, otherwise I’m sure it would have to come directly from the girls. Don’t judge them, they are willing to do anything if it means taking some of the burden off of the girls’ shoulders. How do I know this latter? Cause I might only be a fan but I would do it too.

Question: if you had a friend or a relative in they industry, would you doubt putting yourself in the spotlight for a second in order to give them a hand?

P.S. Alejandro liked Clara’s “shady” tweet that was supposedly aimed at Camila.

#sorry if it took too long but i've been trying to put my life in order #hope you enjoyed it #next time you choose to call out their parents think about how much they love their kids

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alwaysforyouscully · 7 years

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Since I was called out…

So let me start by saying I had no intent on offending anyone with my ‘behavior’ post but since it was called out (though not by name, only content) by a popular blogger in this fandom, a blogger I talked with many times while she was active on here, I would like to clarify a few things.

If you make even a cursory pass at my blog you’ll see not only am I Gillovny but I NEVER once said I believe Gillian is with Peter and I NEVER once said I believe David is with Monique. I think David and Gillian are a couple, never wavered. I have also been vocal on the fact that I believe both David and Gillian have made some mistakes in regards to their public images and how they interact with the fandom recently.

With that said, my post was directed at the constant wave of anons set on reminding me that Gillovny is dead, D & G are with other people and that I’m being disrespectful. So part of my post (the part called facts by the blogger) was sarcastic or 'tongue in cheek’, really just reflecting their words back on the anons.

Anons claim G is with PM, if she is why post like she does. To me posts about a co-star “eating my muffin” is disrespectful to her partner. Just remember, I think she is with DD so that 'fact’ should put this part of the post in context. She posts like she does because she IS with David and not disrespecting anyone.

This same argument applies my comments about MP being DD girlfriend. Not only do I not believe they are a couple, I actually think they are related. Many bloggers here can vouch for this since I have had multiple conversations about it via private message.

Finally, part of that post calls out D&G for their behavior. I do not support Gillian’s current PR. My comment about exposing herself was once again directed at the anons claiming she was on romantic holiday with her boyfriend, really? How can you not know what I wrote was sarcastic? But why she did it, is what bothers me.

Same for David, this whole MP business could have been stopped months ago. The blogger said D&G know what’s said on SM, so why not just tell MP not to post about Brick, parties at a house rented by DD, her trips to VC and not to accept follow requests. After all she’s not his GF. The 'Dirty old man’ comment seemed to strick a nerve with the blogger. Well anyone in the fandom as of late, even Gillovnys find his behavior suspect and many actually believe they are together. David is smart, sweet and kind but he can be an arrogant asshole when cornered (don’t send hate, he calls himself an asshole). He has worked really had to clean up his image and in Hollywood today ANY hint that his has influence over a young girl is bad for him. No matter how the pics and video got out there, he was actually in public with her multiple times and he chooses to continue to do so. He’s not going to comment because he’s done nothing wrong, he’ll stand his ground and basically flip us the bird. And if anyone that saw that video (and we saw it) didn’t cringe a little and think wtf, well they’re are probably not telling the truth.

Brick’s SM is wrong and there is not part of it that I agree with. If David wants to promote his projects then he should use his own account. Oh and Brick (and I mean whoever is running his account) did post about GAs Emmy look, that is a fact and MP does walk Brick, that is a fact. So to the anons, my post wanted to know why its okay for Brick to post that about G looking hot, if MP was indeed David’s GF.

I waited to post this to see if I felt the same way about the blogger’s post as when I first read it, well I do, of all the crap posted, my comments are suddenly that terrible? My post was harsh, crude and reflected my opinion on how I feel about what’s happening. I don’t apologize for that. To my mutuals (some have posted comments on this bloggers post, saying they agree with her) I meant no disrespect to you or your feelings towards David or Gillian.

We all just want the X-Files and S11 or at least that’s what I want. That’s what started this fandom in the first place. There would be no Gillovny without the X-Files. I made a comment on my original post, saying that D & G have something unique in that they still have fans after 24 yrs, that’s something to latch onto, not stomp on. I just wish they saw it that way.

#as always #long live gillovny #and gunning if you read this #my side blog is gillovnysauce #you should see the facts i put in there #really trash #god how i wish i could write exactly what i mean onto someone's brain

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beautifullystrangethings-blog · 4 years

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I guess this should be a whole, New Year, New me post.

It isn’t, it is reflective and a little bit of an apology.

When I started the series, I was fully immersed and training hard. Since then, a bunch of stuff has happened and to a degree I have probably mentioned it in previous posts. And if you follow me on SM you will already know.

A lot of it will be the same excuses I have trotted out but it comes down to, Life. Life happened. Things changed, I changed. But let us just quickly run down what has been going on before i tackle a few things.

18 months ago, I broke my wrist. At this point my training was, I felt, going really well so it really knocked me for six.

In that same period, I changed job 3 times, with 3 very different working hours and schedules. Things have thankfully settled down.

I put on A LOT OF WEIGHT

I got a PT (the last 2 are not mutually exclusive)

So lets unpack. When I broke my wrist, my consultant suggested it was probably safer for me to continue at the gym. Which I did. It was okay. But until you have an injury that limits you like this, its really hard to understand how limiting it is. This isn’t just the adjustment while you are recovering. It is how long the recovery actually lasts. I mean. I would say, even now because of the tendon injury and referred pain… I am still not 100%.

May 2019

March 2019

February 2019

Changing jobs – so while I was at the hairdressers, I was working part time and this meant I had a greater deal of flexibility and could spend more time at the gym without worrying about time. It was great. When I changed to, ironically, working at the gym, I was working longer weeks and hours, and walking more. Now walking is something I will come back to. But one thing I struggled with, is getting to the gym. Because I was on a mid shift, I struggled to get to the gym on either side of my shift and when I was on a day off, I avoided the gym. So that didn’t help. I have since started another job which involves a lot of sitting, including my commute. Which leads me to my next point…

My current job involves little in the way of activity. With all my employment while living in Northampton, I have walked a lot, walking through town to get to the bus stop, popping into town during lunch breaks, while at the gym I spent a large chunk of my way canvassing, and working to and from work. So I have now got a job that sees me spend a great deal of time on the bus and at my desk. So yeah… not ideal.

My final point, arguably the most important, is that when i left the gym, I stayed as a member, and got roped into a PT session … and honestly I am so happy that I did. I had wanted to get a PT for a long while but seriously the money was a big issue but also finding someone who I felt I could work with.

April 2019

January 2019

Now, that is obviously more than a year, but it all is linked in. I put on a lot of weight when I changed jobs, not so much not going to the gym, because I was spending a lot of time on my feet, but changing to an office based job again. And what is worse, I didn’t realise. It sounds silly, I know. How did I not realise I had put on so much weight. I knew I was over weight, again something i had discussed before, and again I could pinpoint why the weight had crept on. But this was not slow, over a few years, lets not kid ourselves. I got lazy with what I was eating, and I wasn’t doing enough exercise to combat my lifestyle changes.

I started seeing my PT just over a year ago, and I would argue with him about the fact eating plans don’t work for me, that I know how many calories are in the things I am eating (to an extent this is true) and that I was fine. I can’t exactly remember what it was that pushed me. But I took scales into work for a coworker and jumped on myself. And nearly died. I was mortified at the weight. over 2 stone heavier than I expected. So I got chatting to a friend who also happens to work in the fitness industry and she gave me some pointers. The biggest was downloading MFP (and this isn’t an endorsement, just my own experience) and I then started logging my meals. I got a smart watch for Christmas last year (I spend a lot of time debating Fitbit or smartwatch but ultimately decided that this was better for me personally) and it tracks heart points (rate – time spent with an elevated heart rate… or cardio) and time spent walking. The recommendation is 60 mins activity per day and 10 heart points per day. Easy you would think. Right? Well on a non gym day, I would struggle to manage 45 mins / 8 HP …. so yeah, no surprise why I was putting on weight. So anyway, in May last year, that is when I changed up my fitness journey. I started tracking meals, I worked out 3/4 times a week. I averaged 1lb loss per week. Some weeks I maintained. But it was actually, was easier to do than I ever expected. It was a lot of gradual adjustments.

November 2019

June 2019

May 2019

So, why did I go down the calorie deficit route, and not say, Slimming World or Weight Watchers. I have no personal experience of either. I have a lot of friends who have used them to lose weight. And for those who stick with it, the results and fast, and they are amazing. No honestly, they really are fantastic. However, once you stop following the program, the weight comes back and it comes back quickly. So I wanted rather, to make sustainable changes that worked for me. Do I fancy a donut today? (silly question) but then that means, I have to work a little harder. As long as I can stick in a deficit, or as close to… then it works. Of course I am not perfect, I mean I eat donuts. I drink. I enjoy myself. Now, the whole deficit thing, I am not being extreme, I am down to roughly 1400 per day. I won’t go below that. Because I still need to be able to function.

How, one thing that I have found, is that your body is not predictable, some days I weigh myself and i have lost 3 lbs. Some days I have maintained, some days I have…. put weight on. It is hard, not going to lie. When you think you have tracked well and worked hard.. and then your body appears to betray you. Its one thing that I have found particularly hard. When people say, hey its normal to fluctuate, or its hormones… its just not helpful? It feels like an excuse and honestly that is the last time i need to hear. Did I forget something, did I not work out enough. After I had been doing well on the weight loss, I started to lose traction again and I gave myself a kick. I decided to take the long way how. Now … this is a great idea. In theory. Its along a canal and in the summer, I am sure it is a perfectly nice way of getting some fresh air. I don’t suggest it in the winter as walking home in the dark is not fun. So i reset, and decided to go for a walk at lunch. I had avoided this previously because I like to have the time to decompress, but I was out of ideas. It does seem to have worked though.

July 2019

August 2019

October 2019

Now when I say I have run out of ideas, and this is an explanation… I usually get home at at around 18:00 having left the house before 7am. This generally means that I am really, really hungry. So if I have not gone to the gym that evening, the last thing I want to do is throw some food down my fact, let it settle and then go back out. What I am trying to say, is that it is all about being smart with your time. On a typical week, I have bellydance on a wednesday, gym friday night, PT saturday morning, gym & swim sunday. This means that I have a couple of nights off, and a day to play with. Sure, I could go for a run… or spend more time at the gym, work out at home. But if you are going to start a fitness journey, you try and see what works for you, and be realistic. This works for me.

Now, I have mentioned him a few times but lets have a look at the PT issue – like i said, I had wanted to get a PT for a while, I have had PT’s previously so I knew roughly what to expect. I guess for me, part of the issue with working at the gym is that I got to know them and how they trained. When I got roped into a session with Zack I didn’t know what to expect, which I think was an absolute plus. Now to cast back to my broken wrist. When I said recovery was a bitch, this was 6/8 months after the break and Zack had an uphill struggle with me and my inability to really do much with my right hand. But another way of looking at it, is that he also helped me strengthen my wrist so I could push more.

I am not going to lie, Zack had had an uphill struggle with me, I am argumentative, lazy, awkward, I like to chat shit. I also hate not being able to do something and half our sessions have been bargaining and debating. I am sure he has spent many a session thinking about throwing the towel in with me as a lost cause. He spent a got chunk of our sessions, undoing all the bad habits i had picked up or been taught. It was harder in a way because I was not new to the gym so I had things ingrained and that takes time to undo. One thing that I really wanted to get on with, is weigh training. That is one big reason that I knew i needed to have a PT for, as well as getting my wrist back in shape! So over the last year, I have made a lot of progress and am a lot more confident than I was this time last year. One thing that did also change… I had an epiphany … similar to the one relating to my stepping on a scale… I jumped on the treadmill. Now most of you will know that ‘not even my tights run’ but I just decided one day that… I felt like having a run. So I did. It hasn’t been easy, what with the whole ‘cardio is evil’ thing I have maintained for a number of years. I have also really made progress overall with my workouts over the last couple of months and actually feel like I have been getting there rather than treading water.

There hasn’t been a point in the last year that I didn’t want to go to the gym, that I felt I should give up. There have been several points where I was frustrated and annoyed, with myself mostly. And I think that a lot of that stems to where I was before i was injured. That I think is what is all boils down to. Knowing where I was and where I let myself get to.

December 2019

As it stands, yesterday I hit my goal weight for 2019, in that I lost 2 stone. I have 2 stone to lose and i have given myself the deadline of August – because this is the same length of time it took for the first 2 stone to be shed. I have given myself an arbitrary number to reach, it is based on my ideal weight for my height. So yes, it may need adjusting but lets cross that bridge if and when I reach it.

So anyways, that has been my recent fitness journey – thank you for reading! I hope that you reach your goals for the next 12 months, stay healthy and smash some personal bests!

Fighting Fit : Reboot I guess this should be a whole, New Year, New me post. It isn't, it is reflective and a little bit of an apology.

#fitness #fitnessjourney #fitnessmotivation #gym #new year #workout

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xteeninreallife · 5 years

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K-Pop in 2019: The Reckoning

I never imagined that my first post here would be about k-pop. I actually “founded” this tumblog a couple of years ago with the intent of writing personal think pieces that were separate from my very shit-posty original tumblog. Maybe it would be about life, maybe politics, maybe personal beliefs. Probably with the occasional shit post entry thrown in for humour. I really didn’t think k-pop would make a serious appearance here.

I would never have been able to predict the nuclear dumpster fire to detonate in 2019 that the Burning Molka (or Sun) scandal would become. I don’t think anyone would have been able to imagine a world where several major top pop stars in Korea, plus the head of one of the Big 3 entertainment agencies would see their careers implode at the speed of sound.

To be honest, I still just feel a whole lot of disappointment in Seungri. He was the maknae, always the butt of the brotherly jokes, the forgotten, or ~useless one in BIGBANG. *Insert “Tyra: We were all rooting for you” gif here.* That was Seungri. JJY sounds like a creep based on his earlier related scandal. People have speculated about Yang Hyun-Suk’s shady dealings for ages. As for Choi Jong-Hoon, Yong Jun-Hyung, Lee Jong-Hyun, Roy Kim, and Eddy Kim, I didn’t really pay attention to them as individuals to form any opinion on them beyond the music they released.

But this post is about Lee Minwoo. Because as much as I love BIGBANG, Shinwha has been one of my favourite groups for almost two decades.

I count Shinhwa as one of my top artists/groups EVER, not just within the context of K-pop. Minwoo was my first bias, even if I had no idea about the concept within the world of k-pop fandom. As I grew out of my youthful fangirl phase and into adulthood, I recognized that he served as a mentor to many junior artists in the entertainment industry. To me, he was a pioneering example of how someone could evolve from the rigid confines of the first generation k-pop robotic idol, into an artist who was in control of their own career and business dealings. Shinhwa was the first k-pop group to fight for the right to own their name, and they beat one of the Big 3 (the Granddaddy: SM Entertainment!) companies to do so. They can serve as examples for groups like Highlight (formerly BEAST, and coincidently Yong Jun-Hyung’s former group), and T-ARA who leave their original labels but go to court for the right to continue as a unit. Shinhwa is today the longest-running k-pop group with zero changes to their line-up (and no disbandments). First and second gen groups like H.O.T., TVXQ!, Girls’ Generation, Super Junior, and Sechskies cannot say the same.

So, reading the breaking news story in early July that Minwoo had been accused of sexual harassment at a club was hard to take. I normally take zero issue with writing off celebrities who have been accused of, or convicted of sexual violence. Before #MeToo became a movement, my personal trauma of being raped in my mid-twenties had made me a staunch ally and advocate of the protection and rights of victims and survivors of sexual violence. For example, I grew up absolutely loving “The Cosby Show.” I still think it is one of the greatest shows of all time. But I cannot, and know I will not ever be able to watch another episode since Bill Cosby’s alleged crimes came to light in the flood of accusations a few years ago. At that point, what I had tried to dismiss as rumour became unavoidable and impossible to ignore.

I have honestly struggled with the news of Minwoo’s scandal. I hoped it was a stupid, one-off, drunken act. He would take time off to reflect, maybe seek help for alcohol abuse, maybe come back afterward as an humbled and apologetic person. I hoped it actually was just a misunderstanding. But as the days went by, I had to self-reflect and wonder why I took issue with standing with the women who made the original complaint.

No one likes to think of someone whom they admire to be with fault, and certainly not with a criminal fault. Junjin received backlash for saying that he was standing with Minwoo and that everything would be resolved soon if we all just believed in him. Like Minwoo was the Chanjo Tinkerbell. But I can understand where his comments are coming from. To him, Minwoo is not simply a bandmate or a co-worker; he is a brother. As a fan, I get it.

But this is a particularly precarious time for k-pop stars who have gone on for years in the comfort of knowing that their bad deeds were being covered up and taken care of; perhaps by agencies, perhaps by more powerful figures in the greater society. I am not saying that Minwoo must be a serial offender. Only time will bring any other truths to light, if they exist. I am saying that like the men previously mentioned, I do not believe that he will be able to come back from this.

Shinhwa will serve as an interesting case study, to say the least. Where FT Island’s Lee Hong Ki seemingly had no issue in immediately distancing himself from Choi Jong-hoon (see his epic “I eat well, I sleep well, I even poop well” comment to a fan), I can see that the other five members of Shinhwa will not be able to do so as easily. Shinhwa’s brotherhood of over twenty years has become as much, if not more of their brand as their music. I can see them choosing a passive Super Junior-esque route of quietly putting Minwoo on an unspoken but permanent hiatus until his “contract ends” and he decides to “retire” and relinquish his control as co-CEO of Shinhwa Company (see Kangin’s and Sungmin’s eternal hiatuses due to their own scandals. And I use that term very loosely regarding Sungmin because I think it’s ridiculous).

As of the date of this post, Minwoo and Eric Mun are listed as Shinhwa Company’s CEOs, but their official Twitter (which is in Korean) does not appear to make any mention of the accusations and investigation against Minwoo, and he did not receive the annual birthday salutation post on their Facebook, Twitter, or Instagram accounts. Clearly, the members have chosen to be cautious, perhaps recognizing that this is a damaged ship with only two outcomes: bail out in a lifeboat for five, or sink as united captains.

Any of the members of Shinhwa could easily go their separate ways. Junjin and Hyesung have had successful solo releases in recent years, Dongwan has found recent success as an actor in dramas and musicals, Andy has been making a comeback in variety show appearances this year after his own gambling scandal, and Eric is one of the most popular commercial spokespersons, and drama actors in the industry. None would have to make an outspoken break with Minwoo in order to maintain the success of their solo ventures.

There is no doubt that Minwoo’s absence in Shinhwa would be noticed. He is a main vocalist, the choreographer, and one of the most recognizable faces of the group. Which leads me to ask myself, am I really just having trouble accepting the end of my teenaged idol fantasy? I am a grown woman, I like to think that I can take a hard stand, but I find myself stalling on this matter. Perhaps because Shinhwa has made so much of their brotherhood and senior status as their brand; they are the forever six. Shinhwa is not just a music group, it is each member. It is equally Eric, equally Hyesung, equally Dongwan, equally Andy, equally Junjin, and yes, equally Minwoo. I think that I am not ready to mourn the end of this group. I don’t think if they were to release another album that included Minwoo’s participation, that I would be able to support it.

Honestly, I hate that. I do feel let down. I feel disappointed. I feel lied to. And I feel silly for feeling these things because I’m not an 18 year old girl bumping her “weird” Korean music in her little car as she zips around her suburban Texas neighbourhood on a Friday night. I am an adult who just doesn’t want to let that girl go. I want to protect her from the bad things ahead. I want to protect myself.

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buddha-in-disguise · 5 years

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Mistakes, rights and wrongs.

Why should we care?

Why does this matter?

In recent months, and on several occasions, I’ve been challenged over some social media posts.

The format has been the same (main examples here but not limited to them).

I have an agenda.

I have twisted words or events to suit my narrative to discredit others.

I am associated with the wrong people who are nothing but nasty bullies (or just nasty). That makes me a bully or nasty if I don't remove myself.

I am less of a fan because I don’t support only one aspect of something an actor or their character might have done, or I still support the show and other actors.

On each occasion where possible, I’ve asked for clarification by these people, preferably via direct message so as not to clog up my timelines.

In every case, more users came in with the same or similar narrative.

In each case, I reiterated I was more than happy to clarify why they felt like they did.

In every case at least one person was behind an anonymous account, as they had no followers and followed no-one, or only followed one user, nor any posts or only one or two posts prior to coming to my SM account. The other type of account used is an account when you look at their tweets and replies, all they do is go in to attack others.

In every case, I cited where I had gained the information from if it was questioning something that could be verified.

In one case, the person who confirmed some words they had, so I could use them to quote got dragged into a disagreement on what words were said, even though it was in answer to their own question and witnessed by other people as what was said.

In every case, I asked repeatedly for the differences on the wording that was causing this disagreement.

In every instance not once were they given, at least not to me, or the other person (that I know of). Nor were they even offered to be given (at least to me). It was just repeated it wasn't what was said.

On one occasion, once the person who gave me the backup and who was there, and the events surrounding when it happened were given, suddenly the complaint changed to; it was inappropriate and shouldn’t have been asked. It was disrespectful by forcing something on the people there.

This sounds similar to when Chyler Leigh stood up at Ultimates and called out against the hate faced by her and her castmates and production team, and people went after the person asking the question.

The outright vitriol might not have been the same here, but to put it on the person asking the question when the argument you'd been using was effectively shut down, does you no favours.

In other words, the reasons to say anything to us had been flipped on its head into something different.

If you don't like an answer to any question, it doesn't automatically make it that the question is wrong.

Just as difference of opinion, no matter how unsavoury to you, doesn't mean it is bullying.

I’ve made mistakes citing something on SM over the years. I always try to get it right the first time, but despite efforts to avoid it, I can get wrong information on a post or link.

Now I can accept if something is wrong. Those who associate with me, whether family or friends (not those who presume to know me), know I have done so and would do so.

I have deleted or amended posts (with explanation as to why) to reflect that.

If people talk to me constructively and politely, show me without doubt where I might make a mistake - I have no qualms on acknowledging the mistake. When though, that first comment thrown my way is an outright demand, or is behind an anonymous account, or rarely used account, or one when they only troll other people's timelines, it's already a poor reflection on those posing the question.

As for having an agenda. My agenda is simple. Trying to promote kindness, empathy and humour. Oh and animal pictures. Especially cats.

Do I always get it right? No. Well, animals can never be wrong in my opinion. But yes, I have been know to err.

Okay you have the right to say I have an agenda, but unless you say what you think that agenda is: I can’t do anything to look at what has been said and if changing it in any way helps avoid that belief.

If you believe I have an agenda, and refuse dialogue with me I can't be held accountable for that.

And honestly, after what has happened in recent months, that last chance on talking to me about it has now gone. Chances were plenty, none have been taken. I am now drawing a line under that. I can’t change what you think of me, and I can’t maintain any further energy trying to open those channels of communication up.

If all you do is demand and hide behind anonymity to try to make your case, with nothing to back it up, but rinse and repeating the same or similar words, it does nothing to help.

If all that happens is people pile in with you, but only churn out the same or similar narratives it does nothing to help your cause.

Straight away things like this diminishes any narrative you might make.

In fact, for some that kind of behaviour towards them can be harmful, as it appears intimidating and for those with anxiety or mental health issues, can really cause genuine harm.

On the other side of this, if those with anxiety or mental health issues come into your timeline, and cannot give good reasoned debating points, or show where you might be wrong; then they turn around and say it’s triggered their health - that cannot and should never be put on you.

They made the decision to come onto your account.

Sure, I would feel empathy that they're struggling, but I also know under those circumstances the blame is not mine, as long as I haven't attacked and remained polite throughout any exchanges.

The same applies even if they don’t say anything, but have watched your account. We all have control on who or what we read or watch on SM. Block if needed. I’ve no problem if anyone blocks me on SM. I don’t take it as a personal affront, but acknowledge for whatever reason they felt they had to do it. It’s your account, your choice.

If you suffer mentally, always ensure you are strong enough to go to tackle an issue somewhere else. Equally be prepared to not get what you might want from it. If you aren’t strong enough, it’s okay to ask someone else to do it for you, but again be prepared if it doesn’t pan out as you’d hoped. Also be open if someone is doing your bidding and why. It goes a long way if you or those in your stead explain who is posting and the circumstances around it.

A small side note to this - A little while ago I was accused of having a secondary account to stalk and hassle other users. I am putting it here that I've never done that.

I have no way to prove it of course, but at the same time, I won't even waste time debating a baseless accusation. Plus when I asked what account I supposedly had as a 2nd account, nothing was ever given to me. Just I had one.

See the problem here?

Have the power of your convictions. Don’t hide. Don’t deflect. Don’t ignore requests as to why you see differences.

Most of all, be polite. Don’t demean anyone, or push your own policing on how someone should phrase a question. Some types of questions do need to be avoided. However, if you can ask a question in a similar vein, or that a certain subject is brought up in the answer without prompting in the question - that means you cannot demand the restriction on others.

Being a fan isn’t a competition either. It doesn’t matter how much time, effort or money we spend on a celebrity. Worth isn’t judged on those values alone. It is a remarkably shallow way of thinking if value is only given on how much better you might be at that. That holds true for life as a whole. We shouldn’t judge on who is a winner or a loser.

People come from a wide variety of backgrounds, which means there are a wide variety of ways fans celebrate or enjoy a celebrity, show, film, band, singer etc.

Equally - there are some areas that should not be crossed, and again I’ve seen it occurring too often of late.

Do not demean a celebrities partner/spouse. Don’t ignore the fact that these are people’s real life relationships you might be dismissing or demeaning. That is outright hurtful behaviour.

Again, you don’t have to like everyone, but that doesn't excuse anyone on how you then are towards them on SM or worse, face to face.

If you can’t say anything nice, don’t say anything at all, is an adage that holds true here.

It isn’t your relationship. You don’t know the person in any way, shape or form. You only get a snapshot of their relationships or family and that distorts it, sometimes only a little, sometimes it’s considerably. Whatever level of distortion, you never see the true person or people.

Ultimately, being wrong myself doesn’t bother me one iota as I'm okay if I need to change, if shown without a doubt where I make a mistake.

I want to be the best version of myself I can be.

What does bother me is how some others approach people and simply regurgitate the same words, and can’t or don’t expand on that when asked to. But then I also know it’s usually best at that point to merely walk away. I am now going to do that if the same thing occurs on SM. As I said earlier, I can’t maintain any further energy trying to open those channels of communication up.

As with all things SM, self care is the biggest takeaway here, regardless of which side you are on. As is being kind.

We can disagree.

It doesn't mean we have to be unkind.

Note: I wrote this out a few days ago. Once again there has been an uptick in fans coming in to attack other fans or even people in other areas, with no justification to do so. Please - you can say whatever you like on your account and with friends.

Do not police others. Do not attack. Do not hate.

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