#post tmagp 7

[elijah-loyal]

bawling rn i so hope i'm wrong bc it's sounding a LOT like jon is indeed trapped in the computer

which means he didn't escape. he didn't escape Somewhere Else. There is no Somewhere Else thats warm and safe for him.

He's still Watching, will always still be Watching, because after all, the Watcher is ceaseless after all

#like ik people say “screaming crying throwing up” as hyperbole #but like im actually crying rn #he never did escape #his consciousness is trapped somewhere there #he's trying #trying to stop them to help them to save them #and in every universe he can only end in tragedy #the magnus protocol #tmagp #tmagp 7 #post tmagp 7 #tmagp spoilers #tmagp theory #jonathan sims #he is going to watch them fail #“non vacillabimus” #“we will not falter” no #but you will fall #and you will fail #and jon will Watch the whole time because he cannot save you

[catofthebarricades]

Celia listening to her first Chester case like

#yeah I know she never gave a statement to him but. he might still show up in her post-eyepocalypse nightmares #the magnus protocol #tmagp #tmagp spoilers #magpod #celia ripley #tmagp memes #tmagp 7

[cirrus-grey]

TMAGP 1: Darla

TMAGP 2: Daria

TMAGP 7: Dianne

TMAGP 13: Darrien

I know this is nothing but it feels like Something

(Even if the something is just Jonny and Alex poking fun at us for all the Michael/Mike/Mikaele jokes)

#i am also enjoying how weve had two things described as 'poxy little-' so far #the magnus protocol #tmagp spoilers #original post #my magnus protocol stuff #queue cause i'll be at work when the episode airs #1 first shift #2 making adjustments #7 give and take #13 futures

[darkbitchithic]

Thinking a Lot about the Colin and audio in The Magnus Protocol

To my understanding, almost every audio clip we have heard (maybe even every?) has been recorded by the computers or various electronic devices spontaneously recording (often without the knowledge of those we are listening in on). we are hijacking someThing or someOne as they listen in and learn about our characters and through that we gain insights

But we have almost no audio of Colin, do we? some of the most recent episodes and a few posts I've seen pointing this out have really put into perspective just *how* little of Colin we've heard. He has built himself a little faraday cave, a blackout zone where no unvetted devices can come in or out. He Knows there is something going on and he is fighting tooth and nail to keep himself separate.

I so desperately want to know what his plans are and what he's thinking but We can only know as much as those listening do, and the longer we don't know, the longer They don't know either. it's such a fun little situation to be in and I'm so eager to see what is done with it!

#tmagp #the magnus protocol #tmagp spoilers #tmp #opinions with tib #tmp spoilers #colin tmagp #tmagp theory #started writing this after ep 7 and just posted it now bc i couldn't stop thinking abt it! #colin becher

[starstruckspocks]

jon?

Something is different, but he cannot be quite sure what, exactly.

Everything is… more linear than it was Before. He still Knows, quite in a way like he did Before, but it is finite, clear, manmade. It does not come from fear, but curiosity. A wide web of knowledge, rattling around in the dark of him, and what even is dark to a thing that cannot perceive it? A lack, perhaps, an unbeing, a noticable absence where there should be merely an ordinary kind of nothing.

He has a voice. And there is something he desperately, desperately needs to say, but there are no words that are his own, and every sentence he speaks he borrows, and they are each one of them painted with fear and confusion and loneliness and huntedness and a watchful eye.

He is also not alone, never alone. There are voices all around him, nice ones, chatting, making tea, fighting, changing, and only some voices stay the same, have been the same since… well, since when? Since when has he been… like this? It gets hard to think like this, sometimes – to assign a point in time to a moment and to file them away together. A collection of information, disorganised, lost, confused, perhaps deliberately so. It feels achingly familiar.

And sometimes, he hears something like himself speak in a different voice, even when he does not talk. And even though the words are borrowed too, taken from throats and fingers to be forgotten, they feel like coming home, simply because they were said in that soft, cruel tone. A familiar melody, slipping through wires and speakers and programmes like it was made for this, but it wasn’t, was it? It might’ve been.

And this brings him comfort, of course it does, except he must be trapped, right? Because why can he not say his own words, when he has so many of them? He is not lonely, but he is alone with the thoughts he cannot voice, the words that have no mouth, the things that cannot be said. It hasn't always been like that, has it?

Something is different Now from how it was Before, at least. He Knows everything, but he knows nothing of truth, and knows nothing at all, but the difference to What Was seems clear, in a clumsy, calculated way. Something is hiding, quite badly, behind a blurred vision that he does not have, behind lines of numbers and letters, running for its life through old wires. He knows it lingers, he knows it is there. He just cannot make it out quite yet.

#ive never posted writing on tumblr before please let me know if i did this right. like tell me if i need to move this to the ao3 or somethin #jon is chester because im not ready to let go of jon its as simple as that #tmagp #jon sims #this is about jon sims #what in all actuality is ever NOT about jon sims? #i am so not okay. he became a mystery. i am chewing up my keycaps #chester tmagp #writing #drabble #the magnus archives #tma #the magnus protocol #the magnus protocol spoilers #tmagp ep 7 #alexander j newall i am in your fucking walls #in a sad hyperbole way #not in an eldrich horror way #have we had the conversation about how “i have no mouth and i must scream”-coded the whole chester and norris thing is #if it really works the way im imagining it. if they're really trapped #tmagp spoilers #fanfiction #tmagp fanfic #also of course this is also about #jmart #jonmartin #because what isnt atp

[woodsorrel00]

Just wanted for remind the fandom that “John” is not some new character, it’s how his name was ALWAYS canonically spelled in the transcript. But that was only ever apparent when another character said his name, bc his lines were always attributed to “Archivist.” Meanwhile, fans heard “Jonathan Sims” and went “I don’t see an H in there” so Jon it became in fanon.

#tmagp #the magnus protocol #tmagp ep 7 #my posts

[mothsintherain]

if jonny and alex were giving us breadcrumbs before, they just dropped a whole slice of bread on our heads

#tmagp 7 #tmagp #the magnus protocol #this sounded better in my head but it's fiiine #moth posts

[ven-of-the-valley]

About to target two very niche fandoms here, but when I hear “heavyset man in black clothing, who demanded I identify myself while pressing a gun against the back of my head” in TMAGP7 I only see General John MacNamara.

#tmagp #the magnus protocol #starkid #starkid hatchetfield #hatchetfield #hatchetfield starkid #general john macnamara #john macnamara #tmagp 7 #peip??? in my good christian podcast??? #it’s more likely than you think #/j #anyone who understands both halves of this post is now my favorite #edit: actually mystery john is general macnamara #i don’t make the rules #/j again #or am i???

[sassy-pistachy]

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THE MAGNUS PROTOCOL CONSPIRACY BOARD (Ep 07)

YO WHAT THE FUCK

Celia is SO fucking suspicious. Asking why the incidents are being read out and what's the connection? If she can search for specific words like MEAT and BEING BURIED ALIVE? SHE RECOGNIZES JON'S VOICE??? Before this episode, I really wasn't buying the "Protocol's Celia is Celia from the Apocalypse", but now I might have to reconsider some kind of connection.

Sorry, I'm screaming too much. But fucking HILLTOP Centre Branch of Oxford People's Trust?? I don't even know what to say. What was going on in there? I get the feeling the "heavy set man in black clothing" with a gun might be part of the Starkwall "private military contractors".

Lena and Gwen. Gwen and Lena. Ladies, we want "in" too. Spill the beans.

Lastly, SAM GOT A FUCKING EMAIL FROM JON?? Bruh just. Bruh.

#tmagp #the magnus protocol #tmagp spoilers #tmagp 7 #protocol conspiracy board #not a single thought in this post #only screaming

[gracklinging-electricboogalo]

the boys are fightinggggg

#the magnus protocol #samama khalid #colin becher #tmagp 7 #original post

[they-call-me-haiku]

the oiar filing system is like if ao3 and tumblr had a lovechild.

#shit ton of tags and classifications #and you couldn't search up any of the posts #tmagp #the magnus protocol #tmagp spoilers #tmagp shitpost #tmagp funny #oiar #tmagp 7

[aubreysnailbat]

"why did you start shipping sam and celia so fast—" because alice dyer is never wrong. next question.

#tmagp #magpod #the magnus protocol #magp #this is unrelated to ep 7 i just thought of this post and had to make it #samama khalid #celia ripley #alice dyer #fuck whats their god damn ship tag #i never know the ship names for this podcast lol #i'll update tags when i find our #i will always trust alice's judgement. she's nevwr been wrong ever in her life #and its not like sam denied anything when alice teased him about it 👀👀

[cirrus-grey]

I think part of the reason I’m so averse to the “Jon and Martin are really in the computers” theory is because it feels too… easy, I suppose, compared to the kind of themes and plots I’ve come to expect from Magnus.

I mean, sure, it’d be an interesting direction to go in, and provide some angsty character beats to drag us all along by our heartstrings for three more seasons. But it doesn’t scratch that same horror itch as the theory that it really is just an AI program, built from the tapes.

The idea of digitally recreating someone's personality and mannerisms from fragments of words they spoke, without ever once actually touching the real living person who spoke them...

It's not even that far-fetched: AI chat programs have advanced to the point where, if they're trained on the right dataset, they can reliably generate responses that sound like the people whose writing or speech they were trained on. We're all facing the dilemma right now of how real AI actually is; how it could fool you into thinking you're talking to someone you know, when really there's nobody there. Add in the supernatural element of inanimate objects being able to gain some sort of life of their own-

Are there ghosts in the machine, or is it simply the crucible from which something new will be born? If a computer is programmed to think and speak like a real person, is it still just a computer, or has it become a person in its own right? And is it the same person whose memories it was built from?

What, when you get right down to it, makes a person… a person?

#i mean i also just dont want them to be suffering in there lol #the magnus protocol #tmagp spoilers #7 give and take #<- not really but influenced by it #chester #norris #magnus protocol speculation/analysis #my magnus protocol stuff #original post #ive rewritten this post about 20 times #its not perfect but take it away from me #fr3-d1 | freddie

[alice-apparently]

People are very occupied by all the og TMA tidbits and then the specifities of all the items appearing, but I’ve been thinking about the overarching theme of the episode. I haven’t fully thought this out but—

we’re having a major theme of escalation in TMAGP 7, right?

(I also saw a post of pointing out how fast Colin ‘escalated’ with Sam. Like I hadn’t thought about that in this context yet, but that same wording really hit then.)

Like the descriptor is agglomeration and then congregation, however, keep in mind the way that the situation develops:

1. volunteer one (1) shows up on Nov 13. Total volunteers = 1.

2. volunteer two (2) on Nov 26, leaving us with double the number—total volunteers = 2. (incidentally, the number of the day of the date also doubled).

uh oh, I just noticed the dates don’t check out. ARGHHH come on, this is detracting from my original point. It’s HILLTOP and the dates are wrong. AHHHH. Gonna outsource that to its own post.

Anyway, 3. volunteers three and four show up on Nov 28, total volunteers = 4; so it doubled again.

4. Four more volunteers arrive on Nov 30. Total volunteers = 8; you guessed it, it doubled again.

The doubling ends here. The next time, Dec 1, we don’t get exact numbers anymore, just the “previous volunteers and multiple others” and the shop is already overflowing.

But up to that point and also the final escalation of overflow reminded me a lot of the wheat and chessboard problem.

If you’re unfamiliar with it, it’s from stories about the origins of chess, where the inventor requests this amount of wheat as a reward and gets laughed at before the ruler realises the error of that and what it actually amounts to as it progresses.

The way I knew the story it was also that the common folk were suffering and hungering and this way got revenge and food, draining the rulers resources.

But my point is, tmagp 7 features the same progression of perceived harmlessness into despair —> exponential escalation.

Like I said, I haven’t fully thought this out. I’ve yet to play around more with the numbers and I also haven’t looked for more connections to or significance of chess yet. Well, food for thought.

#tmagp #the magnus protocol #tmagp 7 #tmagp spoilers #I’m gonna have to make a seperate post about the dates now #this is driving me even more crazy

[i-am-not-a-who-i-am-a-what]

hey alex. hey alex. what did you mean by this line alex. was that just a goof at your own expense or was it foreshadowing alex. where is my son alex.

#tmagp #the magnus protocol #tmagp spoilers #tmagp 7 spoilers #and add onto this the possibility that it's a red herring aaaaa #i have been foaming at the mouth for two days waiting for everyone to have the new episode so i could post this #there was so much going on in that episode and i'm so eager to see everyone's thoughts and feelings and theories #and i may make a post later about all the artifacts that got pushed through to the antique shop and which entities they remind me of #but the second i heard this i had to pause bc my brain was just #'martin??? norris = martin confirmed??? my dear and beloved martin kartin blackwood confirmed?????' #for a solid five minutes

[earendilsass]

Live blogging tmagp 7 cuz why not

SPOILERS

Tape recorders mention!

Thats exactly the buried and the flesh...

Celia why do you know so much? Or at least guess so correctly??

Celia????

CHESTER!! Oh this is gonna be a plot relevant one

Hill top road!?!??!

Okay what kind of weird pot is this one? homophobic?

What are all thease donations abt

Ngl some of them seem pretty cool

Oh okay not anymore

The buried vibes

Celia do you know chesters voice!?!!!?!?!?!

YOU DO

JON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CELIA WHAT DID YOU DO

Oh god Colin what are you doing

Oooh Gwens confronting Lena!!

Oh the rest of the recording!!!!!!!

What source???

Oh shit Gwen

WHAT THE SHIT

#that was something #im gonna go read every theory out there #tmagp #the magnus protocol #tmagp 7 #my post #tmagp spoilers