#pokemon discourse

[lily-orchard]

#Youtube #pokemon #pokemon discourse

[v0id-echoes]

no way shiny hunting elitists on twitter are starting discourse because they're whining that shinies aren't "real" unless the hunt was full odds

a shiny not being full odds does not undermine its value, full odds is cooler sure but other than that it does not make you better than everyone else this is such a stupid thing to get pissy over, a shiny is a shiny

full odds hunting is literally just for bragging rights get a life omfg you people are ridiculous 💀

#pokemon #pkmn #pokeblr #pokemon discourse #pokemon twitter #pokemon posting #shiny hunting #shiny pokemon #this fandom is so embarrassing istg #go tf outside seriously #how are shiny hunting elitists even a thing #that is just sad #it literally doesn't even matter #“you're not doing it my way so you're wrong” mfs

[tdicktiefling]

It's particularly frustrating to hear pokemon fans rag on legitimately good games in the monster taming genre because they are "pokemon ripoffs". I love Coromon, Nexomon: Extinction, and Monster Sanctuary and thing they are legitimately good games that had a ton of effort put into them with good creature design. Ya'll complain so much about the current pokemon games yet when a competitor shows up and offers an new experience with fresher designs than the majority of bad ones gamefreak has cooked up, ya'll shit on it.

#pokemon discourse #pokemon #coromon #nexomon #monster Sanctuary

[duchesscelestia]

this week's video discussing whether or not palworld stole pokemon's art style is now live!!

#youtube #art commentary #speedpaint #commentary #art community #art cc #art drama #palworld #palworld drama #palworld discourse #palworld controversy #palworld game #palworld plagiarism #palworld pokemon #pokemon #pokemon palworld #pokemon drama #pokemon discourse

[kob131]

So apparently TPC International is looking to hire a 'DEI director' or some shit and people are losing their minds, proclaiming 'go broke and go woke'!

Thing is, half the time people proclaim this they do so towards the dumbest shit possible. Like that time they tried claim RWBY Volume 9 was woke because of Bumbleby...even though it was the first Volume in a while to acknowledge Jaune outside of 'Oh hey, I guess we have to let you do something now.' Or Hazbin Hotel, saying it was going to be woke garbage...didn't work out.

What really hits the nail for me? Everyone proclaiming and championing Palworld as the 'anti-woke' game.

... The game that has the dreaded 'Body type 1 and 2' label and openly admitted to making character models ugly to appeal to westerners.

These guys can't keep their narrative straight for five fucking seconds.

Especially since the position is with TPC INTERNATIONAL. AKA THE WESTERN BRANCH.

#political discourse ahead #Pokemon discourse

[moved-to-piersgender]

How about we all agree that taste in Pokemon designs is subjective and every gen has had hits and misses designwise (and which is which is gonna be different for everyone) and quit fucking bitching and arguing about it

#Pokemon #Pokemon fandom #Pokemon discourse #Bitchpost #I love a lot of the Pokemon that get cited as bad designs in gen 1 tbh (Muk Electrode Persian etc)

[jestressofnihil]

growing up means realizing fire type pokemon designs are generally kinda lame

while bug types are

rad

Actually Pokemon could very well exist without any other type and little of value would be lost. Change my mind.

#pokemon #videogames #bug type #fire type #pokemon discourse

[mrmallard]

So here's my problem with modern Pokemon. Yes, this is my boomer-ass genwunner rant, finally realised and in the flesh.

So ever since gen 6, Pokemon as a franchise has relied a lot on redesigning old Pokemon and adding gimmicks to the gameplay loop. I'm talking about Mega Evolutions and Dynamax, but I'm also talking about regional variants. As much as the team make new Pokemon every gen, they rehash old Pokemon with a new coat of paint.

And that's fine. I don't have beef with any of that. Perfectly neutral, and frankly some of the new forms are badass.

But I think gen 9 has come to a head with that.

Much like prior gens, Paldea has Pokemon like Wiglett that rehash old Pokemon designs. There's a land-walking Tentacool, there's Clodsire etc. etc. Wiglett is explicitly calling back to Diglett in a new context. Clodsire is explicitly Quagsire but Different. You couldn't argue that these new Pokemon aren't specifically calling back to older Pokemon designs - and it's cute and fun and all that. Game Freak does design throwbacks like that. That's not inherently an issue.

But this time, Wiglett and Clodsire and all of the throwback Pokemon are actual, new, registered Pokemon. Like, Alolan Raichu is its own thing, but it's not called like Umichu and given its own Pokedex number - it's understood that there's an evolutionary difference between Pikachu that's native to places like Kanto, Johto, Hoenn etc. and Alola. It's Alolan Raichu.

They took Diglett, made it into a barnacle, gestured wildly at it and went "look it's Diglett as a barnacle!!!" and made it a new Pokemon.

I feel like these new Pokemon go past the point of homage - because I would argue that those other gimmicks like mega evolution and regional variants are a form of homage. It's covering old ground, but it's being cute about it. But with Wiglett and all that, they're actually padding the Paldean Pokedex. "OoOoOoOoOoHhHhH it's a NeW sPeCiEs~~~~~~~~", meanwhile it's indistinguishable from a regional variant of Diglett, or Tentacool, or Quagsire from an older game. It's explicitly a throwback in the style of regional variants, except it's been labelled as a distinct, seperate entity for what feels like a completely arbitrary and creatively bankrupt reason.

That being said? I understand that Game Freak are overworked, and they're churning out crap like Scarlet/Violet on development time-frames that are less than a year. And I know that's a contentious and facetious opinion - it's less that Paldea is Bad, and more that the games were completely unoptimised and underbaked, even with the bold new open-world direction and inspired new gameplay elements that the games introduce. Paldea is fine, but the games themselves are these awful products of corporate greed and crunch, and you can blatantly see the seams.

Game Freak made that game in maybe a year or two, probably beginning pre-production during the development of Legends Arceus to lock down the design and aesthetic of Paldea and then entering full production after Legends came out. I'm not a game dev, I'm just speculating, but if that's true, S/V was in full production for less than a year. And when you're under the crunch like that, with a franchise that's been recycling old designs for years, you're gonna hit a point where you either take more of the critically short dev time to make up some new pokedudes or you do the same song and dance of dressing up mutton as lamb.

So like I can understand why this might have happened. I'm not crossing my arms and throwing a tantrum at the devs; S/V genuinely seem hellish in the way that they were developed.

But I still don't think Pokemon like Wiglett and Clodsire should count as their own Pokemon. I think it's a product of crunch, but I still think it's a bullshit decision. They're so, so clearly regional variants. And like - I think they should exist in any and all facets that they can exist in, it's not that I'm decrying their entire existence. I just don't think they deserve to be a new Pokemon when they're clearly a homage to Pokemon that came before, like with a new mega evolution or a regional variant. And I find the fact that they do qualify as their own distinct new Pokemon to be creatively bankrupt and extremely cynical on behalf of the Pokemon Company.

Detractors have been throwing the idea of "Game Freak running out of ideas" around for years. We've all seen bullshit hater kvetching about the ice cream Pokemon and the car key Pokemon and the trash Pokemon, and we've seen the counter-argument of older Pokemon with bullshit designs etc. etc. I don't go for that, and I never have. I'm not a fuckin Klefki rabble-rouser.

But Diglett and Wiglett being legally, textually distinct Pokemon with their own seperate Pokedex number is bullshit, right? Like it's not controversial to say that these are just elevated regional variants that are bizarrely and cynically considered new Pokemon for the sake of padding and not on their own merits, right? They're fine designs, I'm not saying they shouldn't exist, but having the games go "This is Quagsire, and this is Quagsire's Paldean cousin Clodsire, and they're different :)" after years of toying with the idea of regional variants is just bullshit. It's actual, unabashed bullshit.

That's my boomer-ass genwunner Pokemon rant. The fact that Paldean regional variants are considered entirely new, original and fresh Pokemon for the sake of filling out the Paldean Pokedex is a lazy, cynical decision - and it may have a sympathetic motivation, but it doesn't make the decision any less bullshit. I've always been a flexible Pokemon fan, I haven't been a hater up until now, but this is bullshit.

#pokemon #like there's a thousand pokemon now and almost no-one gives a fuck #that's monumental. that's a milestone. but who can tell you what the one thousanth pokemon is off the top of their head? #long post #pokemon discourse

[seven-oh-four]

i think people rag on gen 1 pokemon designs for being uncreative too much when that's not really the point. at the time pokémon's identity wasn't all about the deeply researched origins of every pokémon, it didn't have an identity yet. the pokémon needed to do one thing: be cool monsters you wanna collect. if you bought pokemon for the first time and found a grimer you wouldn't be like "a slime monster? so generic". it would be a travesty if this monster collecting game didn't have a slime monster! a giant bird might not be the most creative thing in the world, but it's a giant bird! it's a raptor you can ride through the sky!

you don't have to think they're good designs, i just think it's not a bad thing that they're generic. you gotta have the monsters you'd expect to find in addition to the more unique and nuanced ones. you just gotta.

they didn't need to do the whole "thing evolves into three of itself" more than once though i think diglett could have evolved into biglett instead of dugtrio. like cmon wheres the mole monster youve always gotta have a mole monster. it fits thematically for magnemite tho

#pokemon #gen 1 #gen 1 pokemon #pokemon gen 1 #generation 1 #pokeblr #pokemon discourse #pkmn

[holydiever]

People have sorely exaggerated pokemon's glitches tbh.

Not denying there are some but i look online and everyones screaming about gamebreaking stuff and im here like ??? I get a bit of pop in and some camera glitches but its miniscule and nothing game breaking or even all that distracting. Frame rate issues are there as well but its not enough for me to care about. Esp not in a game where the main battle mechanic is turn based.

Itd be worse if the battle mechanics were different (action rpg this wouldnt fly) but idk nothing that these games are doing is game breaking in the slightest here.

Also i have the old ass day 1 switch so its not like i have the better switch hardware or anything to effect my consoles ability to play it 🤷‍♂️

Basically, these games are rekindling my hope in yhe pokemon franchise and im actually having fun and memerable experiences with the games for the first time since like.... gen 5...

They are no sword and sheild (those games made me so mad i almost returned them ejejehe) theyre a genuine step up for pokemon and all I want now is for pokemon to keep improving on the open world idea.

And they better not treat gen 5 remakes like they did with diamond and pearl. Better yet, just leave gen 5 alone if yall arent gonna put in any effort for those remakes 😡 (i hated BDSP if you cant tell lol,,, id rather they give gen 5 remakes to fucking bethesda than do whatever they did with BDSP)

#pokemon discourse #me rambling about stupid things i saw on the internet #idk if this post even makes sense #i love pokemon so much i want it to be the best it can be and these games are making me hopeful #i have nothing against ppl criticizing the bugs tho i think GF needs to hear that stuff #i just think people online are blowing it out of proportion at this point

[husknme]

Fairymime clearly has no clue how hard professional pokemon is to break into for 99% of ppl. Most people can’t leave their 9-5 to start that stuff.

Tldr for the drama: Pokemon battling isn’t something anyone can just pick up. Its a privilege.

#pokemon rp #pkmnirl #pokemon discourse #irl pkmn #dramaaaaaaaaaa #irl pokemon #pkmn irl #pokeblogging #pokemon irl #pokemonirl #unreality

[teamsieben]

now that I am more rational:

i really love ScVi but i wish they'd gotten an extra year of development..for everyone's sake.

tbh I think a lot of what's been making me upset is the cognitive dissonance..between my value of workers rights, and my excitement for the game. I'll keep playing...but the things everyone is saying, makes me feel guilty for playing in the first place

this is the last time I will ever talk about this because honestly it just makes me tired & irrational

#pokemon discourse #never thought id type that phrase tbh #-⭐ #feel free to comment or reblog on this post though it's meant to be a discussion

[marvellousstawler]

Halloween 2023 but the post was due yesterday

As a result it's not themed, sorry, no Halloweeny business from me, my life is almost constantly spooky themed so there's no point. I'll have you know that I did wear a werewolf costume to my important government job though. I was softly encouraged to remove the lipstick-and-eyeliner cheek scratches, but allowed to keep the fluffy mitten-hat.

Art I'm going to tentatively declare that what I've been doing this week counts as art. Actually I'm going to rescind my tentativeness because it absolutely does.

First one is fairly straightforward. Because I'm too cheap to buy one, I made a pinboard out of spare cardboard wrapped in cable tape to facilitate my now-much-larger pin collection following PAX. Now my whole room stinks of the tape but it's worth it because the pinboard works very well and I didn't spend a cent. Well. On the board. Maybe don't ask about the pins.

For the next one, some backstory: Pokémon has permeated my mind for about four-fifths of my life, I own and have completed at least one game from every generation since 3 including rom hacks, and I have not once actually completed the pokedex. So that is what I have endeavoured to do -- take Young Marv's stockpiled trove of TCG cards both real and fake, and arrange them in order to create a physical pokedex. Every card that I don't have, or that the mystery box of 80 random 2nd-hand cards I bought online can't fill, I will have to draw myself. So we'll see if Future Marv can complete that one before she expires too.

Writing Okay so it probably started with a conversation with a coworker/new friend following my declaration of the physical pokedex project, about the various overly convoluted fan theories I have about Cynthia (Pokémon) specifically, which led to me discussing those with Sammy (my best friend for whom I'm using a psuedonym because she's on here and she doesn't need her brand poisoned by mine), which led to us yes-anding each other about it way too hard, which led to "what if Cynthia went back in time in Pokémon Legends Arceus instead of Akari," which led to a short improvised script of a moment between Cynthia and Cogita which was way too sweet and impactful, which led to "oh no I might actually have to write this fanfic now," which led to Sammy's simple, one-word reply: "Nano!" So a big thank you/fuck you to Sammy for removing my excuse to put off this fic just like all the others. Way to keep me accountable for my own work, you wonderful asshole.

I'm very excited because this has all reignited a love for Pokémon which I had feared was suddenly and resolutely dead. Why? Well, it's because of a cruel prank. Some people at Nintendo pulled a fast one on everyone a while back, trying to convince the whole community that there are nine generations now, when everyone knows that there are only eight, and the series ended with the release of PLA, and the end of the anime. It seems that some people in the community have been completely duped into believing that "Gen Nine" is real, and it's pretty mean-spirited of the people responsible to give them false hope like that. Which made me pretty upset, evidently. So yeah, it's good to put that negative episode aside and go back to focusing on my bullshit about Cynthia, Cogita and the male one, and all the lore around them I can squeeze into a fanfic.

Reading Okay, apparently I have failed to placate the nostalgia beast by managing to feed her a goddamn unicorn -- the last copy in the only store I found that sold it, of a volume of the YGO manga (a manga with a bajilion volumes) featuring my favourite duel of my favourite character, who of course is Mai because I'm only allowed to stan semi-irrelevant blonde ladies in all forms of media (it's a real burden). No instead, the nostalgia beast was so ravenous that she made me fixate on finding two YGO structure decks, at the only store I found that sells them (bit of a theme in this city), to subject poor Sammy to playing a game with me because I've never tried. And in all the nostalgia beasts constant squawking, I forgot to pick up those copies of Donuts that I was going to get last week.

Oh what's that? You want to actually know what I read? In the reading section? Well, exactly one volume of Donuts Under A Crescent Moon, hours and hours of lore and theories written by Sammy over text, and an obscene amount of info on YGO archetypes that had me saying "fuck this, I'll get a structure deck" within half an hour.

#journal #marvomakesathing #pokémon #cynthia pokemon #pokemon legends arceus #cogita #pokemon discourse #ygo #nostalgia #yes-and #pokedex #arts and crafts #procrastination #champion cynthia #cynthia #marv's obligation to only stan semi-irrelevant blonde girls

[trashbinkin]

I'm aware literally NO ONE follows me for my Pokemon interest but I have Covid and literally nothing else to do so I wanna get it off my chest.

Watching RTGame play Scarlet and Violet's DLC only highlights my sorrow for the franchise. How cool would it have been to actually *experience* the academy? A game oriented instead purely around an expansive Pokemon Academy? How cool that would've been?

Or perhaps in the new DLC, where there's a festival. The characters, perhaps ironically, but still, boast about it being "large". It's miniscule, with about 7 NPCs max idling in its glory. I can't help but feel we've been robbed by what could have been.

A gorgous pixel-art cutscene revealing bustling tents, similar to Black and Whites streets in Castelia city, with NPCs streaming past and a full night sky with warm lights. From what I can see, your character doesn't even get a mask to wear, despite it being custom? Zero customization, hell, the player is lucky to be gender locked (Ugh) into a hairstyle and Jinbei outfit at all.

Just hearing Rt speak my mind about how the region itself is so devoid of character and personality despite it BEING the games selling point hurts. One tiny side quest game imbued the game with more fun and character than the whole of the Paldea region. I just wish we could have experienced the wonderful culture and idea that Paldea is in a similar format of Black and White. I miss those games.

#Sorry im ill and mad #I love Pokemon #just wish theyd stop with this shitty 3d nonsense and go back to basics #and also pay and let their employees REST MY GOD #pokemon discourse #?

[aiden-stardancer]

So are all the mammals in Pokemon monotremes like platypodes and echidnas?

Like, do they still lactate and just lay eggs instead of live birth? Because I feel like that would explain why they all come from eggs.

#pokemon #pokemon discourse #mammals #monotremes

[disastergay]

pokemon is becoming a gacha game series. in this essay, I will

#gacha addiction #pokemon discourse #I saw it coming ever since SWSH featured $40 DLC