#pit madness alone doesn’t annoy me as a trope

[agoddamnrayofsunshine]

I have such qualms with the idea of pit madness that is super popular in most fics because like…obviously is completely veers away from anything even remotely canon from the comics, and it’s usually used only in reference to Jason as a way to quickly resolve the issue of his violent actions instead of actually addressing them.

But also I think that, if you’re going to use it as a plot device, it’s being severely under-utilised. Like, I think that taking the idea of pit madness to its logical extreme and applying it to all characters that have used a Lazarus pit would make for an incredibly interesting story. It has a lot of potential as a trope, considering that the general idea boils down to ‘imagine if mind control specifically targeted your strongest emotions (especially anger) and forced you to act on them’ and I think that more authors who are going to use it need to lean into it instead of using it as a throwaway explanation for Jason’s actions.

Utilising a highly popular fanon trope in your fic is fine, but I think that if you’re going to use it we need to stop ignoring what it could potentially offer for a story.

#I also think that it would reduce the issue of people #using pit madness as an excuse for jasons actions #if we were to focus more on the different ways in which this trope can be interpreted #or how it can be used within a story #why are all my authors ignoring this opportunity to experiment with this idea #do something fun with it #also I do acknowledge that most of the people who use pit madness in their fics likely don’t even know that it’s a fanon creation #I think a lot of people see it’s popularity and assume that there is comic evidence for it #and don’t have enough knowledge about comics to be aware that there isn’t #pit madness alone doesn’t annoy me as a trope #the fact that it’s primarily used as a quick fix-it does though #I mean jasons actions towards tim kind of get glossed over a lot #in order to reunite jason and his family #I think pit madness is just a way of justifying that #batman #batfam #dc #jason todd #tim drake #dick grayson #bruce wayne #red hood #under the red hood #batfamily #dcu