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ludinusdaleth · 11 months

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on a similar note, i do think that there's a lot of people that are just outright evil towards the female characters moreso in this campaign than ever before, with people literally demonizing imogen for so much as breathing in laudna's direction as being an evil, toxic, heartless abuser and "worse than delilah". and people notably didn't care at all about ashton until they realized they could ship them with laudna and further make out imogen to be a monster.

i cant say that this is the worst it's been, historically. the way keyleth/marisha was treated for years was probably the most notable, gruesome, & well known example of misogyny in the fanbase, something that affected marisha ray personally and still does - iirc, part of beau directly spun from her willingness to spite her detractors. many a reddit incel would not shut up about every detail of marisha's rp as the druid. i appreciate that cr responded to that over the years narratively as spitefully as possible.

but, yeah, i think, especially on tumblr, there are some odd attitudes at work. imogen, fearne, & deanna are taking the full brunts of it -

deanna is called evil or disappointing for not being a shining cleric of holy goodness praising the gods bluntly to the screen, and is dehumanized by fans by being put into the mammy stereotype whenever she talks to imogen, even when her plotline is literally centered on realizing she's more than a nurturer (and aabria has liked my tweets on this subject, so maybe, we can assume she shares bitterness at this?). almost no one ever wants to acknowledge her beyond the trait of being motherly, or being lovers with chetney, and dont get me started on how people said she was feral because she killed a goat and made imogen cry?

fearne is treated as a ditzy kooky bimbo fae, with many people ive seen refusing to acknowledge any of her character development - folk get angry when ive mentioned her doing anything, saying shes just a selfish bitch and only that, that she needs to be "put in her place" by any character witnessing her mischief.

and for imogen - i know people dont want to woobify her, but in the process, holy fuck does cr tumblr become judgemental. i have seen, verbatim: "sorry she isnt your girlboss and her actions will hurt others when she turns evil", said pre-solstice, and then, she wasnt. her tendency toward her darker powers and her considering ludinus's pov (yknow. like many a protagonist tries to see the antagonist's pov. thats normal in narratives) because her mother joined him has damned her into the fandom thinking she's a beast to be put down. frankly, even if she did turn evil? id support that narratively, that's fantastic. but she didn't and there is a smugness to the fact that she is now the most clear headed against ludinus when people were sure she would turn, and wanted blood on that assumption.

as for ashton, yeah. i.... have a lot of thoughts on how fandom treats them - they definitely were treaded around til shipping began and only then they were considered palateable, and then were noticeably only called he/him pronouns by the terfs of the marisha/laura-ship brigade. if im being honest, i have not seen them directly used against imogen, and i dont think im the person to discuss imodna or shipping wars with you. but i do think every other bells member is utilized as some kind of cudgel against her (namely, in my experience, orym). to this fanbase, imogen is not allowed to have her traumas in the literal face of ruidis, the source of it.

i know this harsh simpleminded view on the ladies of cr has always existed. i could go into it in every campaign thoroughly. but i do think c3 is unique in how tumblr is treating it. do you know how badly you have to screw up for cr twitter to be calmer & more rational on the topic of women existing in a narrative?

#van speaks #asks #long post #critical role #campaign 3 #misogynoir #misogyny #racism #deanna leimert #imogen temult #fearne calloway #ashton greymoore #transphobia #critical role meta

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mell0bee · 3 years

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the official mell0bee campaign 3 predictions/wishlist (let’s be real here mostly wishlist)

that one post abt gay ppl talking abt the next critrole campaign like its the superbowl is correct

also i wrote the majority of these in may but never posted it

SAM RIEGEL PLAYS A CLERIC. this is not a prediction this is a THREAT.

i made a whole powerpoint about this i think u guys already understand why lol

specifically i think knowledge domain would be so cool for sam (and also i love knowledge domain so i am biased)

ashley johnson plays a bard (or at least SOMEONE plays a bard)

someone plays a full paladin not just multiclass (marisha!!! laura!!!)

someone plays an artificer (travis!!)

someone plays a fighter (personally rooting for eldritch knight they’re so cool)

oh man i only got 2 more classes left huh i may as well throw my hat in the ring, i think druid/sorcerer and rogue/monk??? idk who would play what tho.

ok obviously this is not gonna be the lineup and idk if this party is balanced but FOR SURE i think they’re gonna be more healy after only having one healer at the start of C2 shbfnfj

SOMEONE PLAY A WARFORGED/AEORMATON pls i wanna see it

someone should play a changeling it would be funny

i’m not sure of guidelines in LA but i really hope the setup is the group is back at the table again but it’s still prerecorded (live closed captioned and prerecorded talks machina, my beloved)

idk what the seating chart will be. i sure hope it is chaos. (i saw a post a while back that was like the Ideal Seating Chart pairing everyone with people they haven’t sat next to before + for the Peak Chaos the but i forget it F)

i really hope laura and sam get to sit near each other again though

set in a new continent, i think vasselheim would be very cool but honestly anywhere we go i will not complain

i think a bunch of agnostics on the God Continent would be a cool contrast to C2 where half the party worshipped illegal gods

yknow i was gonna say they start at level 3+? maybe? i am not sure if that’s matt’s style but they could wanna do something different than c2

i thought that there wasn’t going to be as much of a timeskip compared to VM to MN but honestly with exu there might be? say like 8-10 yrs after exu takes place or something, so uh a While after the MN

i would say they might play pre-calamity too but that just seems like a worldbuilding mess for matt so maybe not

someone better play a pair of siblings. it will make me very happy.

someone plays the opposite gender (i think maybe liam)

someone other than sam (alongside sam?) plays a tiny character (pls guys it’s so fun)

also laura’s character continues to be underneath 5’5, small character or nah (but yes pls play a small character that would make me so happy)

as for ppl who i want to have backstories together: travis and sam, liam and marisha, so then tal and laura or laura and ashley

laura and sam would also be good

(yes i am saying travis and sam should play the siblings)

also ashley and liam would be very good too

marisha has a high charisma modifier!!!

sam is tiny again (i think it would be funny). also definitively does not have any children. no kids. not for sam. someone else can have a kid.

LET LAURA GO FERAL. I WANNA SEE HER HIT THINGS AND JUST BE UNHINGED.

both of liam’s PC’s parents are ALIVE AND WELL AND GOOD PARENTS. also a hit die higher than a d6 and a positive CON modifier dear lord liam you know the most times KO’d on critrolestats is not a competition right

opposite of liam. i want travis to try a glass canon for once. also if he is not an artificer i want him to be a full spellcaster it would be so good!!

honestly all i want from ashley is for her to be there the whole campaign, no work taking her away from it (and maybe playing a more outgoing character! if she feels comfortable!!)

and idek what to expect from talesin at this point i am sure his character will bring out some sort of morality crisis in me tho (they always do and i love him for it)

also tangential, and idk if it will happen but someone playing an aroace character or just generally an aspec character would make me an aroace very happy :>

i feel like getting some form of queer characters is a given and obviously i want that and any form of rep but aspec rep is so rare and cad is! so good!

also let liam and sam romance each other 2k21

#critical role #campaign 3 #critical role campaign 3 #bells hells #bee watches c3 #long post #bee post

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thequeenofmyownscreen · 2 years

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Twelve things I noted about CR2E52 “Feral Business” and the Talks Machina about it :

Sam has an opponent in his campaign ! It's not Marisha, who is "too young to run for office". It's not Taliesin, who is a citizen of "a country who doesn't exist anymore". It's not Travis, "who failed the IQ test". It's Liam O'Brien, and he doesn't pull any punches !

Oh. This is it. This is the moment. Travis just announced that they're gonna launch a Kickstarter. Oh ! to see history being made !!

Beau : "I don't want to be a baby again. Being a baby sucked !"

Me, hearing Beau describe how she is transformed into a dude tiefling by Caleb : "oh. I hope this doesn't awaken anything in me."

Everyone is horny for the minotaur. Me, I'm horny for Matt's description of the giant turtle that carries whole neighborhoods of goblinkind of its back.

Nott, to the minotaur : "And is there a Mrs. Sunbreaker, or... ?" Fjord : "Are you flirting with the fucking minotaur ??" Nott : "He is fucking hot ! And, you know, 50/50 my husband is dead, so..."

Gotta love it when Matt does a character so weird that 80% of the cast loses it for 10 minutes. The last time it happened : Victor !!

There's ads in the middle again (I'm guessing since episode 52 is the moment they separated themsleves completely from G&S), and I want to watch "Travis' Yee-Haw game ranch" for the accents and the horrible phrases. Also Liam's Hamlet-like monologue is so good, he's so happy to do Shakespeare again ! Also the fanart gallery is giving me LIFE

The return of "Nott the Best Detective Agency". I love them so much !! They were definitely the best persons to go talk to the Lady Zethriss, and I'm not saying that ironically. She already discovered that they did not know stuff, and were true outsiders of the Dynasty... So imagine there would have been humans before her !

OH MY GOD THIS IS THE EPISODE WITH THE FAMOUS LAURA WINK THAT HAS BECOME A FAMOUS GIF

Laura doesn't have a backup character because she has the feeling that if she creates a backup character, that means she's okay with Jester dying. But she's not !!

Dani says that she has to vote for Sam, because she's his campaign manager. But also he's not paying her... So... If Liam were to pay her... *wink wink*

#my thoughts #critical role #cr campaign 2 #CR2E52

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nochiquinn · 4 years

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campaign 2 episode 94: emotional whiplash

[insulin fund]

does it count as an accent nail if it's the only one polished

marisha's eye makeup, tal's hair, liam in the comfy sweater.....I'm bi

"get smaller dice bags to put in your dice bag"

isharnai: I too have been bamboozled and misled

"did you give up something?" "a spell slot"

"this is a show about a weasel"

"I gave her my last cupcake" not actually a lie

"I'll do a lot for a blueberry cupcake"

can y'all interrogate her in the hut or SOMETHING please I have anxiety

"is it a ghost" travis: [nopes out of existence]

matt: I will use this map if it kills all of you

I've started doing little simple d&d sessions for Kiddo (arrakocra barbarian) and my hand-drawn maps are enough for her but I just stare longingly at matt's

shadow caleb!!

liam: it doesn't...hit...?? I don't understand

liam please be careful saying "nega-caleb" with an accent

this just makes me want a l4d crossover

left 4 dead one-shot when

(have they played it on game ranch, I want brian jumping on cars like SOME PEOPLE I KNOW)

I heard "flashing damage" and had a sudden vision of fjord in a trenchcoat

that's fucking metal

Foreheaded by the Monkey Wang is the name of my neo-punk ska group

marisha

"this is the signal!"

yessss like cad's scene in the intro, this is all I wanted out of this combat

oh good matt sat down

just give jester ptsd it's fine

how do I kill 40-50 feral bog zombies in 3-5 minutes

"mr. stone" matt be nice

roll for relatability

okayokayokayokayokay

fjord cast the scry sense thing

taliesin

"die, probably"

"don't worry about me" too late

hug beau

throwing a rock in far cry

fjord mvp

"you have to stay in here and listen to us, the alternative is zombies"

travis practiced this speech all week

dad friend DAD FRIEND

beau is Correct

ashlEY

"absence isn't the opposite of love" lays in floor

I just love nott so much. Just. everything about her.

parent feels! confused adult feels! midlife crisis feels!

yoga class in a zombie swamp

"everyone lay on your back" how

jesterrrr

hot take: caleb's soft spot for jester is at least halfway just liam's inability

not to make heart eyes at laura "harp music" bailey

is this monster breakfast club bc I want it

"do you think they made it?" "no"

"are you excited about the boat bc it'll stall for three weeks" "I don't know"

at least he's honest

"we WANTED to care"

be nice to caduceus, he knows where you sleep

caleb spends two hours getting bullied

"we care about many homes"

whole discord: "I love her" me: "they're getting fucking robbed"

"I'm a stranger and a goblin"

rage washing

vendetta

"how much time do you want to spend on this" "all of it"

cad: I ain't telling you SHIT

aggressively likeable

"I don't have one" "that's weird"

you backflip over that question beau

travis: please remove us from this scene immediately

parasol essek art in 5...4...

Parasol Essek is one of his unlockable alternate skins

you unlock it by taking 999 points of sun damage without dying

aaand we're walking

🎵on the trail we blaze 🎵

when did vinnie jones get here

vjored

oh god he got eaten by an octorok

jester

"with WHAT" "with ME"

“the hag and the maiden” that’s really cool

monkey frumpkin is just abu

jester no

“do you trust me?” NO

IS IT

IT IS

IT HE

did JESTER make him a god??

jester is suzumiya haruhi I CALLED IT

MATTHOLOMEW

“GO BACK TO YOUR HOME DAVID BOWIE”

“if I ever met a god and they said that I would be like ‘now I believe you’.”

jester helps him figure out wtf, he makes her a god in return

I love everything about this

#critical role #spoilers #reaction post #liveblog #crititag

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eponymous-rose · 5 years

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Talks Machina Highlights - Critical Role C2E52 (Feb. 26, 2019)

There’s a lot to unpack here.

This week’s guests are Laura Bailey and Liam O’Brien!

Announcements:

Travis Willingham’s Yeehaw Game Ranch debuted today on CR’s Twitch channel! Travis and Brian will be livestreaming every other week at 4 PM Pacific (alternating with MAME Drop). Today’s episode will go up on YouTube on Thursday. On Monday, March 4, the Kickstarter for the VM cartoon will go live! They’ve been talking about this almost since the start. This episode of TM will be uploaded to YT on Thursday morning, and will be available on a one-week delay in podcast form!

The cowboy hat makes the rounds. Laura points out that she was actually in an episode of Walker, Texas Ranger.

Okay, on to episode 52: Feral Business. (Liam, just as the splash screen comes up: “That means masturbating.”)

Laura: “I think everybody should refer to their penis as a tiefling. Anyway, continue.”

There’s a discussion about classes for said tieflings. It gets a little out of hand.

Stats! Jester got her 5th HDYWTDT of the campaign against the shoosuva. Caleb has now dealt over 1,400 points of damage. (Liam: “Really?”) Frumpkin got his first natural 20 to perceive the rats and shoosuva.

Laura and Liam have a heated negotiation about who gets to cuddle the Jester and Kiri plushies.

100% of the out-of-character motivation for the Disguise Self was just Liam missing being Laura’s twin. Liam: “You know, I like to have fun in my D&D games.” They enjoyed getting to sit next to each other again at the live show.

Brian: “What were you gossiping about?” Liam: “Your tiefling.” Laura: “Specifically yours.”

Jester’s view on Caleb hasn’t changed since his backstory reveal. Laura: “I feel like it makes more sense that he’s more standoffish, and it made me feel much more guilty for the times I gave him shit for being muddy and stinky and stuff.” She points out that Jester got to see a lot of different types of people pass through, not to mention listen in on their conversations, and probably has a broader experience with a variety of people than some might expect.

Liam talks about how Xhorhas is “rough, and the customs are different, but it’s a real place” and not the bogeyman often presented to the Empire.

He objects to a question talking about how Caleb’s planning to take down people in the Empire, pointing out that he’s never confirmed that. Laura immediately concocts a theory about Caleb being a top-secret spy for the Empire.

Laura: “Jester has no idea that her charisma isn’t as high as... Beau’s or... is Beau’s very high?” She loved leading a diplomatic conversation, and didn’t know how it would turn out, but she feels like she killed it.

Snoozy Henry!

Liam: “Caleb’s not scared of being manipulated. I think that’s done.” It feels off being away from the Empire, not because he still feels loyalty, but mainly because everything that matters to him is still there.

Another round of dick jokes comes to a climax (sorry) with “Cocks Machina”.

Gif of the Week! Jester learning the ways of the goth.

If the opportunity presents itself, even in Xhorhas, Jester will 100% pull a prank and try to spread the word of the Traveler. “Nothing is sacred to Jester!”

Laura mentions that she has no backup character planned if Jester dies; she feels like having a backup will make her more likely to accept the possibility of losing Jester.

Jester doesn’t really care about the Empire vs. Krynn conflict. “Political bullshit. I don’t think the Krynn are necessarily evil, but I don’t know.” Liam points out that nobody really knows the motivations behind the conflict in the first place. Caleb mainly sees it as a big mess. “Caleb will still have emotional ties to where he was born and raised, but he knows they’re flawed and awful. They’re really terrible people.”

Laura’s theory: “The Empire stole a lot of artifacts. They stole the dodecahedron. The Krynn just want it back. And now we have it. And we’re fucking everything up.”

Big Tiefling Energy.

Jester on tattoos: “Nah, I’m not afraid of the pain! I can take it! I’m really strong!” She’d totally get a tattoo if the right idea came along.

Caleb isn’t too concerned about the group getting sidetracked, since he doesn’t really have “an agenda for where he wants to go”. He wouldn’t want to do something boring, but that’s not exactly a worry with this group. “They keep going to places with things he’s interested in.”

Laura on Jester’s changing dynamic with Nott: “It’s interesting to find out that Nott’s a mom. She knows what that relationship means, and she is just devastated for Nott that she can’t be with her son.” What seemed the worst was that she didn’t have someone who thinks of her the way Jester thinks of her mom. “I thought about so many times just her not taking a bath. It just makes me so sad.”

Fan Art of the Week! A giant city-tortoise.

Liam: “Man, get a load of Brian’s kenku.” Dani: “This has to stop.”

What the heck does “consecuted” mean? Laura: “I think it means something about being reborn.” Liam: “Yeah, reincarnation.”

Liam on potentially picking the wrong spells: “I don’t worry that I will. I just know that I will.” Marisha warned him.

Brian asks Laura about where her vote’s hovering in the vote for DnD Beyond’s president. Laura: “I feel like Liam has a stronger platform.” Liam: “Is that a dick joke?” Laura: “I’m sitting next to Liam. So Liam.”

Dani: “Contractually, as Sam’s campaign manager, I have to vote for Sam. But he’s also not paying me, so I’m just saying, Liam, if you paid me, I could maybe switch sides. Look, I’m working for exposure only, and I’m feeling very exposed.” Liam: “Listen, my shell corporation will talk to your shell corporation after the show.”

Jester’s not too worried about the group being disrespectful by hanging onto the dodecahedron. “It’s a powerful thing! Look at it! We can play with it!” Liam: “Yeah, it’s not her god.”

Liam: “I miss playing twins.” Laura: “I do too, buddy.”

Henry is moved to the couch when Liam starts literally curling up on the floor to be closer to him:

Jester would create a Magical Viagra spell. Dani: “Like the Wand of Smiles, but for dicks!” Laura: “The point of it would be to just make people feel awkward.”

On Jester checking on Fjord’s tusks: “It’s important to her that he appreciates himself as much as others appreciate him.”

Liam: “My character will probably die soon anyway.” Everyone: “LIAM O’BRIEN.”

Laura points out that Jester’s come closer to death than Caleb. “If anyone’s going to die soon, it’s me.” Brian: “Stop it! Stop!”

Search for Grog Questions (SPOILERS FOLLOW!)

The group played a private home game as Vox Machina for fun recently (”It didn’t make sense, but it was fun!”). Liam was envious of the group getting to play their characters again, so he wanted to play something at least VM-adjacent. He also loves building out the world and wanted to continue fleshing that out. “She saw VM, unbeknownst to them, a couple times.” He also wanted to be able to keep people from dying and “breaking the universe.”

Laura on playing VM again: “It was really crazy, and me and Taliesin gave each other the biggest hug after the show. I missed Percy and I missed that relationship so much!”

Having Lieve’tel around was painful, but Vex “didn’t have the same reaction to it the way Keyleth did. It was bittersweet. I think she appreciated that someone appreciated what her brother did.”

Gilmore and Allura’s voices were big moments of nostalgia. Percy-Vex banter. Scanlan wanting to kill Trinket. (Laura really thought she’d have to leave Trinket behind, and the “I can carry him” killed her.) Scanlan’s singing. Pike! Liam: “Roasting the shit out of Travis.” Laura: “Oh my god.”

#critical role #critical role spoilers #talks machina #talks machina spoilers #long text post

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