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mrmousetolliver · 1 month

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Viktor und Viktoria (1933) written and directed by Reinhold Schunzel.

#classic #style #vintage #german film #weimar cinema #victor victoria

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jam-the-hologram · 3 months

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Does anyone know where I can watch the 1933 film Viktor Und Viktoria with English subtitles? I tried the internet archive without luck, and while it is on Youtube, in the video there is horrible Russian dubbing OVER the people speaking in German which just ruins the sound design and is just not fun to listen to. Please help!

#Viktor Und Viktoria #Victor/Victoria #please help me find this film #I badly want to watch it

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carolusofmycastle · 2 years

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Dearest @i-want-my-iwtv thank you for tagging me! I love to do this kind of tag games. How lovely to see an animation included, I chose one as well. I’m a big fan of TV series and especially German ones so there are few of them. Old and new productions. 🤓

1. Babylon Berlin (2017-2021): What a way to introduce us the reality of post war era in Weimar Germany. Class society, political wars, war traumas and in the midst of all this are crimes to be solved. Perfect ending titles. 2. Anders als die Andern (1919): The film is one of the first sympathetic portrayals of homosexuals in cinema. Released on May 28 1919, when German Republic was only 6-months-old. Young Conrad Veidt in the leading role. 3. Halt and Catch Fire (2014-2017): I’ve only seen season 1, but it already proved how effective it is when all the drama happens around one thing, in this case the evolution of home computers. Talented cast and script. Lee Pace is horrifyingly ravishing. 4. Viktor und Viktoria (1933): Best musical ever! The humor of the director & screenwriter Reinhold Schünzel, who teases us with the gender role-playing and cross dressing. 5. Das Boot (2018-2022): Imo Germans are the best storytellers of WWII and the N*zi regime so this show is one of the good examples to watch. 6. The Red Shoes (1948): Powell’s & Pressburger’s finest. The first 15 min nailed me and made me wonder why on Earth haven’t I seen this before. 7. Aladdin (1992): The message of the film ‘be yourself’ has always pleased me among all that Oriental beauty & magic. I draw the characters as paper dolls back then. 8. The Thief of Bagdad (1940): When the villain (elderly Conrad Veidt) is far more attractive than the hero. Beautiful Technicolor adventure film. 9. Corpus Christi (2019): Is both innocent and funny but also terrifying and sad. Opens up the religious side of the society. Polish language is my ASMR. Tagging: @missholson @wicked-felina @xxhellonursexx @auburnandamberangel and anyone who wants to join this! ♥︎

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giaffa · 10 months

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I was tagged by @emeraldskulblaka, thank you! 💖💖

Last song: La Fèe Verte by WinoVino

Last movie: Viktor und Viktoria (1933) and Victor/Victoria (1982)

Currently watching: Ghosts (the cbs version)

Currently reading: a book about the history of rhetoric for uni

Currently craving: pizza <3

Last thing I searched: Renate Müller, the actress who played Victor/Victoria in the 1933 film. I wanted to know more about her filmography and biography

tagging @ahoy-hoyy @peachyindeed @thegothicsainteloiser @bich-the-moss @spikeys @mirillel @violecov if you want to 💕

#i think i tagged some of you in a similar thing some time ago so no pressure if you don't want to!#tag games

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amateurbourguignon · 1 year

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"Viktor und Viktoria", la version originale de Rheinhol Schunzel distribué par la UFA en 1933. Renate Muller et Hermann Thimig en tenaient les rôles principaux.

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falsebooles123 · 1 year

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Finding the First Gay Kiss - Diary of a Big Ole Gay 12.25.22

Hey Whores Merry Christmas. Do you ever have a social interaction where you feel like you came off rude but that the other person was still kinda in the wrong. I just don't like people making personnal comments that don't need to be made.

(are gifsets you always make me feel better)

anyway I have 6 more days to watch gay movies before the new year and then I have to figure out how I want to meter this shit out.

I'm firmly withing the 1930s luckily so I can enjoy the benifits and lack of focus that sound film presents so thats nice and I'm also about halfway through the project after spending every waking moment for a month and a half watching old silent films.

I still hate my job and I will be doing my absolute mostest to get out of that fucking sandtrap as soon as I can but before I do that sluts and hobags lets talk about the movies I watched.

Viktor und Viktoria (1933) dir. Reinhold Schünzel

so once again I am posting a gif of a newer remake of the film because you whores can't appreciate fine cinema.

So Victor and Victoria for those not in the know is a film about a women who pretends to be a man who is in fact a female impersanator. sheninigans, (that trope were a woman wants to get dick but she can't cause shes in boymode, (fuck um gay hamlet, Sylvia Scarlet, even the clinging vine in like a really weird way), ensue.

the original is actually pretty fun. Its in german and its a musical so its a little hard to get into the music.

(the lure is actually a really great example of a foreign film which songs still work but thats more because the music is translated more poetically and because the visual language of the musical has evolved. )

The Film shows a lot of feelings torwards the female impersanators that are less nuanced in the general culteral miasma of the earlier decades. Viktor OG is ashamed to admit that he is a female impersanator in a way that implies homophobia. Conflict arises when Policeman come into arrest Victoria for cross-dressing. Not for being a man pretending to be a women on stage, but a woman pretending to a man off of it. Mirroring the way that while the Feminine togs of vaudvilled were reveled and applauded, Those transvestic freaks on the street were not.

overall this is a really fun comedy that helops brind some clarity to the tropes that were seeing in this period and I also love *checks notes* Renate Muller crying like a little bitch after seeing her boy crush deliver a dozen roses to his fiance. Good shit.

Un Chant D'amour (1950) dir. Jean Genet

so this is the only film by director Jean Genet and it is very gay. We start off with these more artsy shots of trying to catch a bouquet of flowers and blowing smoke into peoples mouths and end with what can only discribe as unstimulated masturbation and gun worship. Its a very gay and a curious mixture of lets say 2000s Joe Gage and Robert Yang's Tearoom.

(so the game features you handling peoples "guns" in a bathroom but you get the idea its a lot of male cruising and phallic imagedry.)

this does feature THE FIRST GAY KISS, so far but it is like a few other artistic films like Scorpio Rising that were very underground and also sued for obscenity. So fun times. This film is also bordoring on pornographic. its artsy but once again unstimulated sexual acts in a sexualized manner.

Blonde Venus (1932) dir Josef von Sternberg

so this is a curious but I really don't know how this ended up on the list. Marlene Dietrich is bisexual and there are some vaguly queer aspects, (a lesbian coded character, dietrich apparently flirts with a women while wearing a suit in a blink and you miss it moment), but these are very slim and not entirely noticible.

the actually film itself mirrors things like Manslaughter! and Pandora's Box where you have this powerful sexpot of a women who falls on hard times because of IDK the inherant degenarcy of being a sexual liberated woman. This one has some similar elements to Morocco but to a lesser extant and while I definetly liked this movie because theres this type of golden age glamor and atmosphere that just is so intoxicating. It is simply put not that gay.

One of the things that I have to contend with is that some of the resources I have arn't always accurate or through some miscalculation I simply added a film that was listed for weird reasons. For instance we have Judith of Bethulia which is on this list because oh a pet theory by an academic which is honestly not that strong, Twelth Night by Sandor Sara is on the list because of the name. Turns out the hungarian experimental short film while being super cool and aestetic some absolute kino, it doesn't have anything to do with the play its just the random play that occurs within the film but is never actually shown. The actually film is like a meditation on ruralism and the tedium that comes with it or something.

Slyvia Scarlett (1935) dir George Cukor

Fun Fact: One of my Coworkers told me and I quote "Katherine Hepburn is not a lesbian, she had high functioning aspugers"

which is a lot to unpack. First aspergers tends to imply being high functioning. Second, the notion of high/low functioning, as far as I understand, isn't loved by the autism community. Like it has a lot of abliest notions of assigning moral worth to the ability to create profit which is honestly just a prevelant aspect of capitalism torwards various different handycaps and disabilities.

also this is really fucking important having autism or any type of nuerodiversity has absolutely fuck-all with being gay.

Sure I don't have a smoking gun of Kathering Hepburn eating out some scarlet starlet but I'm also not calling Hepburn a Lesbian because shes wearing pants, I'm understanding her as queer coded because she was a woman who was gender-expansive, who did queer shit in her movies, and also theres a lot of memoirs that explicite confirm that information. Sure I can pretend that this was all a smeer campaign by some hollywood exec or I could take the fact that hollywood was kinda gay and she constantly collabed with the likes of dorothy arzner, George Cukor, and Cary Grant who which by the way whores was most likely pretty bisexual.

(this is what pops up when I type in Randolph Scott x Cary Grant)

But lets get into the actually movie. so this starts off with a classic Cross Dressing plot. Katherne Hepburn like oh let me just go full boymode and she sticks to it for a extremly long time. The only time that she stops is when she's literally trying to fuck a man. A man btw who absolutely was planning on fucking her in boymode. This entire movie is literally just a bunch of queers being like, "OMG we couldn't kiss that would be gay" and then winking at the haes code.

(I was trying to find that snl skit where ben alleck plays an ex-gay at a conversion therapy camp and hes doing this thing were his ex-gay boyfriend is trying to kiss him and instead of telling him to stop hes literally just opening his mouth so that there lips don't touch and its honestly kinda an amazing setup. fuck I'm going to have to make a gifset so that It exists.)

What I'm getting at is that not even Cate Blanchett could make a movie this gay and not like pussy just a little.

As You Like It (1936) dir. Paul Czinner

so this got added because I tried to add all of the cross dressing shakespear plays to my list at some point before I decided I had enough and needed to start getting to the watching phrase of this, (that moment was in my memory last week or something), This film is kinda gay but like I said in my review on LB its cause the play is kinda gay.

Rosalind has a female simp in the form of her cousin, whose like constnatly being snooty over the fact she has a boycrush and there is literally a whole scenaria where her boycrush comes up to her in boymode and is like how do I get over her.

and shes like "yeah what if I this twink just pretended to be your girlfriend bro" and hes like hell yeah.

This is "straight guy uses my ass as a a fleshlight" gay this is I'm not gay dude I'm just horny and my girlfriend won't put out gay. What I'm saying is that Laurence Olivier is a DL Cruiser who doesn't want to admit that he kinda likes dudes. which is fine come out when your ready orlando but this shit is gay and also you know who else was probably bisexual WIlliam fucking Shakespear of Avon. the bard of avon more like the bottom of avon am I right ladies.

Ok on to the last thing.

The Magyk Lantern Cycle Dir. Kenneth Anger

I've been trying to watch through all of Kenneth Angers films in order. which is differcult since many of his juvanalia is hidden or unaccesable from me. but I have managed to see so far, Fireworks, Eux D'artifice, Puce Moment, Scorpio Rising, and Inaugeration of the Pleasure Dome the Last two being actually on my list. His films are kinda hard to parse, there intense, mentally, visually, thematically but at the same time watching something like Anger or Deyen or Brakhage or some shit are honestly just super cool and make me feel like a bad bitch. While i'm on this subject shoutout to Le Cinima Club which has a lot of cool stuff like this.

I will update you more next week with gay shit. Once we get to the actually new year I will have to reassess how hard I want to go with this project.

UP NEXT: A LIST OF MOVIES I CANNOT FIND.

#queer cinema #firstgaykiss #viktor und viktoria #blonde venus #Slyvia Scarlet #As You Like It 1936 #homophobia #autism #queer Erasure #transphobia #diary

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whosafraidofvirginiawoolf · 2 years

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Viktor und Viktoria (1933) Reinhold Schunzel

#viktor and viktoria #viktor und viktoria #*mine: sc

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travsd · 5 days

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Renate Müller: The Original Viktor/Viktoria

Synchronicitously, I learned about Renate Müller (1906-1937) from two trusted sources within days of each other a few months back. One was Eve Golden, who wrote terrific articles about the Weimar/Nazi Era German movie star here and here for the L.A. Daily Mirror. The other was my wife, who was watching Müller’s best known film, the original version of Viktor und Viktoria (1933) on the Criterion…