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littlebluejaydraws · 6 months
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-I'll die first -I suppose you will
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jackexmachina · 1 year
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Casifer // Touch In the vision, Lucifer touches me and I feel calm like things will be alright. And that's not something I would ever come up with. I mean that is the last thing that I would ever feel.
image description: scene comparison between Lucifer in Castiel's vessel vs. other scenes with Castiel or Lucifer. Scenes from "The End," "Abandon All Hope," "Caged Heat," "The Devil in the Details," "Into the Mystic," and "The Vessel"
5x10 & 11x10: Castiel watches, trapped in a circle of holy fire, as Lucifer reaches out to Meg, holding her head in his hands gently. // Lucifer leans in to hold Rowena's face as she closes her eyes, but then he snaps her neck and she falls to the floor.
5x04 & 11x11: Future!Lucifer possessing Sam approaches Dean, attempting to put a hand on his shoulder sympathetically. Dean shifts away to avoid contact. // Lucifer puts a hand on Dean's shoulder and Dean looks up from the hand to his face as Lucifer pretends to reassure him.
6x10 & 11x14: Castiel picks Meg up and pushes her against a wall to kiss her, as Sam and Dean watch surprised. // Lucifer grabs Sam by the front of his shirt and pushes him against a pillar. Sam looks confused and afraid as Lucifer taunts him.
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multifand0mbabe · 1 year
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We went from "Officer Bradford you're getting our hotshot"
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"Last night was our first date, for sure that's a better story for the grandkids" 🥹🫠
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dailymichifer · 1 year
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via @/spnscripthunt - Superwiki "Scripts and Casting Sides"
"idolized" is a very interesting choice of word for an archangel
idolatry: the worship of something or someone other than God, as if it were God (prohibited)
Exodus 20:3-6 You shall have no other gods before Me. You shall not make for yourself an idol, or any likeness of what is in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the water under the earth. You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God.
Samuel 15:23 For rebellion is as the sin of divination, and insubordination is as iniquity and idolatry.
Isaiah 46:7 They lift it upon the shoulder and carry it; /They set it in its place and it stands there. / It does not move from its place. / Though one may cry to it, it cannot answer; / It cannot deliver him from his distress
Lucifer keeps saying that he "loved God too much", but it doesn't mean God was the one he loved the most. In fact, it's interesting how he talks about how loving God too much was his downfall in front of Dean (The End)* with no mention of Michael, but call God his "dick of a father" in front of his true vessel and vents to him, talking about how much Michael's betrayal hurt him.
*(Not to mention Endverse is an alternate universe model that was created by Zachariah, NOT time travel, meaning Endverse!Lucifer might not be fully in-character, as all his lines are based on Zachariah's own perception of the Devil's personality)
He says he loved God "more than anything" (The End), but did he move him "more than anyone"? If God is a parallel of John, Michael is a parallel of Dean, and Lucifer a parallel of Sam, then I think the answer is obvious.
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deangirldisease · 2 years
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god maze is so fucking hot
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marvelfanfn2187a113 · 3 months
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Hope
Sam and Dean Winchester & little sister!reader, Crowley & Winchester!reader (platonic)
Requested by anonymous
Synopsis: (very very loosely) set during 5x10 when Sam and Dean get killed and go to heaven (doesn’t follow cannon really)
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Crowley took in the room before him, a pit opening up in his gut at the gruesome scene. Sam and Dean were splayed out on their respective beds, chests gaping open from near-identical bullet wounds. And then there was you.
The brothers’ young sister was sitting on the floor between the two beds, the demon-summoning ingredients in front of her. She was shaking from head to foot and her eyes were red-rimmed and wild with desperation. Her eyes met Crowley’s, and he nearly staggered back just seeing the haunted terror residing there.
“Darling…” Crowley’s voice was quiet, apologetic.
“You have to bring them back,” you whimpered. “Please.”
“I…I can’t,” he sighed. “Just because I’m king doesn’t mean I can just reanimate whoever I want. Not without…” Crowley stopped suddenly, but it was too late. Your eyes lit up with realization. “No,” Crowley said, but you were already nodding.
“I’ll do it,” you said. “You can have my soul, just bring them back!”
“It’s not that simple. If the demons find out that I brought their biggest threats back to life…” he was stalling, and you both knew it. He didn’t want your soul in hell, but he would never admit that.
“Please,” you pleaded. “Crowley, I-“ your voice cracked. “Please. I-I can’t live without them.”
Crowley looked from the boys’ dead bodies to you, then back again. You followed his gaze, your eyes settling on Sam first, then Dean.
“It was hunters.” Your lip quivered. “They-they said Sam was evil, and-and he had to be stopped. Then-then Dean recognized them, so they said that…” your voice cracked as tears slid down your cheeks. You took a deep breath before continuing. “They said they had to kill him, too, so that he wouldn’t come after them. De-Dean didn’t even care.” A sob wracked your body, and Crowley had to resist the sudden surprising urge to comfort you. “He didn’t care that they were gonna kill him, he-he just told them over and-and over not to kill me. I guess they thought I couldn’t be much of a threat.” You pulled your knees up to your chest, and your next sentence was so quiet that Crowley had to strain to hear. “I wish they got me, too.”
Crowley had been ready to leave you here, to turn down your deal and walk out and leave you with your brothers’ corpses. He didn’t want to make this deal, he didn’t want Sam and Dean screwing things up for him in hell, and he didn’t want you, just a kid, to give up your soul. You didn’t deserve hell.
But the last thing you said—your wish to die alongside your brothers.
Crowley couldn’t turn away from that.
“You’ve got yourself a deal.”
Crowley was gone before Sam and Dean opened their eyes. They sat up simultaneously, identical gasps leaving their throats as they breathed again for the first time.
You were off the floor and in their arms before they even knew what was happening.
“What happened?” Dean asked after he had gotten his bearings. “We were caught by Zachariah, how did we…” Dean caught sight of the summoning ingredients on the motel floor, and it hit him like a truck. Sam and him hadn’t gotten out by themselves.
“No…” Sam breathed, his gaze following Dean’s. “Y/N, no, tell me you didn’t.”
“Don’t pretend you wouldn’t have done the same,” was your response.
You flinched when Dean slammed his hand against the desk.
“What were you thinking?” He demanded.
“That I wasn’t about to let the two of you die,” you shot back.
“We could’ve gotten out ourselves!” Dean exploded. “The angels need us alive!”
“Yeah, but they would’ve tortured you until you said yes to Michael and Lucifer first!”
“How long did you get?” Sam’s quiet voice interrupted you and Dean’s shouting match. His tone sobered the room.
“A year.” Your voice was no longer strong or defensive. You were scared, and the boys could see it instantly.
“We’re gonna get you out of this,” Dean promised. “You’re not going to hell. I’m gonna call Crowley and—“
“Who do you think I made a deal with?” You sighed. “He may be the king of hell, but there’s only so much he can do. It was dangerous enough for him bringing you guys back as it was.”
“I don’t care,” Dean said. “He helped get you into this, he’s gonna help get you out.”
The year passed faster than anyone had anticipated. Crowley never answered when the Winchesters summoned or called, and they hadn’t been able to track him down or summon any other demons either.
You were on your last day, sitting on a motel bed next to your brothers, when he finally made contact.
“Hello, boys. Y/N.”
All three Winchesters nearly jumped out of their skins at the sudden appearance of the king.
“It’s about time, Crowley,” Dean growled. “We’ve been trying to contact you for—“
“Three hundred sixty-four days, twenty-three hours, and twenty-six minutes,” Crowley interrupted. “Y/N’s almost out of time.”
“Exactly,” said Dean. “Now fix your mess.”
“I can’t undo a deal, Squirrel.” Crowley couldn’t meet your eye as he spoke. “There’s nothing I can—“
While his gaze was focused on Dean, he didn’t notice Sam pulling out the demon knife until it was up against his throat.
“Then why are you here?!” Sam demanded.
“I can’t undo the deal,” Crowley said, his hands raised defensively. “Nor can I tell you about the hidden escape hatch out of hell. It would be utter treason for me to accidentally leave Y/N’s cell door in hell open in exactly seventeen hours and twelve minutes, when the guards change. It would be an affront of all I stand for to give you boys this address,” Crowley reached into his pocket and pulled out a piece of paper, handing it to Dean while Sam kept the knife on him. “It also wouldn’t be possible for me to tell Y/N to take two lefts and a right, and that the escape hatch is behind the giant rock shaped like a nose—trust me, you’ll see it.”
The trio of siblings was silent for several long seconds as they took in Crowley’s words.
“Why are you doing this?” Dean asked.
“I didn’t want to make this crummy deal in the first place,” Crowley sighed. “But you Winchesters are stubborn, so I made it. Now I’m doing the little I can to un-make it.”
The Winchester brothers began questioning Crowley about the specifics of the plan, but you remained silent. The men seemed to forget your presence until you suddenly interrupted them.
“So I still have to go to hell?”
All eyes turned to you.
“I’m afraid so,” Crowley said, still unable to look you in the eye.
“Dean?” Your pleading voice had your big brother in front of you in an instant. “Does…” your gaze focused on your fidgeting hands, and your voice came out in a tearful whisper. “Does dying hurt?”
Dean’s heart lodged in his throat. He wanted so bad to lie, to tell you that you wouldn’t feel a thing, and that you’d be reunited with your brothers before you knew it. But you didn’t want just assurance, you wanted the truth. You needed someone to trust more than you needed comfort. So he did the last thing he wanted to do; he told you the truth.
“Yeah,” Dean sighed heavily. “Yeah, it’s gonna hurt like crazy.” Dean’s hands found your fidgeting ones, and he held them tightly. “And those seventeen hours are gonna feel like a whole lot longer. And it’s—“ Dean’s voice cracked. “It’s gonna be real dark, and you’re gonna feel like the only person in the universe for a little while. Then the demons are gonna come, and it…it’s gonna be really bad for a while, kid.”
Tears were steaming down both of your cheeks now, but still Dean continued.
“But you just gotta hold on, ok? Hope is the only thing you’re gonna have down there, so you can’t let it go for anything, understand?”
“Ok,” you choked, holding Dean’s hands in a vice grip.
“Ok,” Dean forced a fleeting smile. “Good girl.” He pressed a kiss to your forehead. “You’re gonna be ok, alright?”
You nodded, leaning into your big brother’s touch.
Dean felt you flinch in his arms, and he pulled back to see you glancing around wildly.
“Did you hear that?” You breathed. You glanced up at Sam and jerked back, gasping in surprise.
“Hey, hey,” Dean tried to grab your arms, but you backed away from him, trembling. “What you’re seeing, it’s not real, ok? Y/N, it’s me.”
“I have to go, they can’t see me here.” Crowley was gone before anyone could comment.
“Y/N, it’s Sam.” Sam appeared on your other side. “It’s ok, you’re ok.”
“Baby close your eyes.”
You looked up to see Dean staring down at you.
“Just close your eyes,” he repeated. “It’ll be ok.”
You closed your eyes tightly before the hallucinations started again, your last visual memory being that of your big brothers holding onto you. You felt Dean’s hand squeeze yours, and your breathing turned to hyperventilating when you heard the hellhounds burst through the door.
Your instincts were screaming at you to open your eyes, but Dean seemed to read your mind.
“Keep your eyes closed, sweetheart. We’re right here, we’re not gonna leave you.”
You couldn’t help the terrified gasps that were escaping you, but you listened to your big brother and kept your eyes closed, even as you heard the vicious bark of the hellhounds.
Even as you felt their claws rip into your flesh.
You shrieked in pain, and you struggled to back away from the hounds, to no avail. But you never opened your eyes.
And you never let go of your brothers’ hands.
Seventeen hours later, Sam and Dean were waiting at the address that Crowley had given to them. Your body was laid out carefully in the back of the Impala, having been carried there by Dean. Dean told himself over and over again that you weren’t dead; they were just waiting to get your soul back to your body.
“Is there something we should be doing?” Sam asked, glancing around.
“Not according to Crowley,” Dean sighed. “He said as long as her body is here, and she gets through that escape hatch, it should be a done deal.”
The brothers had done what they could for your body; Sam had stitched up your wounds, and Dean had done a homemade blood transfusion using his own blood. They could only hope that your soul returning to your body would somehow help the more internal injuries that they couldn’t fix. Dean insisted that they do this, since Cas wasn’t around to heal your injuries, they didn’t know what state you would be in when you got back to your body.
“So we just sit he—“
Sam’s question was cut off when your body suddenly jerked upright, a deep breath filling your lungs.
“Y/N!” Dean was by your side immediately, Sam coming to stand beside him.
“Dean? Sam?” You were out of the Impala and in your brothers arms before you even finished getting their names out.
“Hey kid,” Dean breathed a sigh of relief as you relaxed completely in his arms. “Miss me already?” He quipped, but his forced easygoing tone dropped at your response.
“It felt so long.” You held Dean tighter and started to cry into his shoulder.
“I know, I know it did sweetheart.” Dean brought his hand up to cradle your head. “I know. You’re safe now, ok? We’re right here.”
“Hey,” Sam pulled you away from Dean and held you at arms length to look at you. “How do you feel?”
You touched the stitches running up your stomach.
“It feels sore, like-like it’s healing.”
“Ok.” Sam sighed in relief. “Ok.” He pulled you into his arms, letting you relax against him.
“Let’s get going,” Dean said. “We don’t need any demons figuring out what happened.”
Dean regretted his words when he saw you tense in Sam’s arms.
“Hey.” Sam noticed too, and he pulled away and brushed your hair away from your face. “We’ve got you, ok? You’re not going back to hell. Ever.”
For the first time in months, a smile found its way onto your face.
“Let’s hope so.”
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shinelikethunder · 7 months
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kripke: show creator; seasons 1-5 showrunner; wrote or co-wrote 1x01 pilot, 1x02 wendigo, 1x09 home, 1x16 shadow, 1x22 devil’s trap, 2x01 in my time of dying, 2x22 all hell breaks loose part two, 3x01 the magnificent seven, 3x16 no rest for the wicked, 4x01 lazarus rising, 4x07 it's the great pumpkin, sam winchester, 4x10 heaven and hell (story), 4x22 lucifer rising, 5x01 sympathy for the devil, 5x09 the real ghostbusters, 5x22 swan song, 6x22 the man who knew too much; directed 2x20 what is and what should never be, 4x22 lucifer rising
gamble: seasons 6-7 showrunner; wrote or co-wrote 1x03 dead in the water, 1x12 faith, 1x14 nightmare, 1x21 salvation, 2x03 bloodlust, 2x08 crossroad blues, 2x13 houses of the holy, 2x17 heart, 2x21 all hell breaks loose part one, 3x02 the kids are alright, 3x07 fresh blood, 3x10 dream a little dream of me, 3x12 jus in bello, 3x15 time is on my side, 4x02 are you there god? it’s me, dean winchester, 4x09 i know what you did last summer, 4x17 it’s a terrible life, 4x21 when the levee breaks, 5x02 good god, y'all, 5x07 the curious case of dean winchester, 5x13 the song remains the same, 5x21 two minutes to midnight, 6x01 exile on main st, 6x11 appointment in samarra, 6x21 let it bleed, 7x01 meet the new boss, 7x10 death's door, 7x17 the born-again identity, 7x23 survival of the fittest
edlund: wrote 2x05 simon said, 2x12 nightshifter, 2x18 hollywood babylon, 3x03 bad day at black rock, 3x09 malleus maleficarum, 3x13 ghostfacers, 4x05 monster movie, 4x08 wishful thinking, 4x16 on the head of a pin, 5x04 the end, 5x10 abandon all hope, 5x14 my bloody valentine, 5x20 the devil you know, 6x03 the third man, 6x09 clap your hands if you believe, 6x15 the french mistake, 6x20 the man who would be king, 7x02 hello cruel world, 7x09 how to win friends and influence monsters, 7x15 repo man, 7x21 reading is fundamental, 8x05 blood brother, 8x13 everybody hates hitler, 8x21 the great escapist; directed 6x20 the man who would be king, 7x21 reading is fundamental
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roxyandelsewhere · 2 years
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Angels’ trueforms in their most memorable moments [25/?] - Cas and Lucifer in the "What a peculiar thing you are." scene in 5x10 Abandon all hope.
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#twentyfiiiiiveeee#spn#spnart#spn art#trueforms#mine.caro#spn fanart#ok so cas in this one isn't that special. he's pretty much like he was in 4x16 with some extra things so not that different from#the first ever trueform i made!! wow!! throwback monday! the differences are that the Red Right Hand 2: Gay Boogaloo is there#and there's a line like the ones in the fallen angel designs running through the trueform to parallel lucifer's fall like in the ep itself#and i tried out a new color i got recently in the wheels that is SO pretty. it's turquoise but sooo shiny. like the gold and silver paints#the red in the hand isn't as neatly edited as i'd hope for bc i'm still using photopea and it's so laggy#but anyways. cas wasn't the focus here bc he's pretty much 4x16+ftbym. the focus was lucifer bc i chose this moment#to be the one lucifer trueform i'm gonna make bc let's face it#the main things don't change much throughout time. and he had to be different from every other angel#so i thought. what's a deviation from geometric AFS that isn't flowy non-geometric and is clear and noticeable and gritty and grim#and i thought it could be the black and white not being separate at all anymore. a whirlwind of distortion from isolation and torment etc#so i did a basic trueform with a felt tip pen (a new eye design with some spirals sprouting from it and some upside down wings)#and then i smudged it all with rubbing alcohol on a toothbrush. you can still see the pattern underneath all this as the basis#then i did some fuckery with black and white acrylics and a really rough paintbrush. and then i got some crimson red and some silver#i dunked a metal chain in it and i smacked the paper with the chain. the idea was for that to be the vestiges of the angel wheels#crumbled and torn and broken. red and silver. smudged. uglee#and there's the Wanting hands coming from that whole mess. all reaching upwards whereas when cas has them they're reaching everywhere#oh and i added some white paint with a really tiny paintbrush too. and i think that's it#i'll add these to the stores later and i still haven't added zachariah bc i haven't managed to edit the scans with the right specs#but soon#this lucifer has some pollock vibes but it was honestly accidental it just built up as i added more layers
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archangelsammy · 1 year
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episode summaries for context:
5x03 Free To Be You And Me
Sam and Lucifer meet for the first time. Lucifer first appears as Jess, and he promises to never lie to Sam, and to never trick him.
5x10 Abandon All Hope
Sam tries to kill Lucifer, and Lucifer summons Death to finish raising the Horsemen. Dean gets knocked out, and Sam and Lucifer have a chat.
5x19 Hammer of the Gods
Sam nearly gets eaten by Pagan Gods. Lucifer then slaughters them all, and then his brother Gabriel. rip Gabe 😔✌️
7x15 Repo Man
Sam and Hallucifer best friends arc. Sam let's Hallucifer in to help him find Dean. But then Hallucifer doesn't let him sleep.
7x17 The Born-Again Identity
Sam and Hallucifer in the Psych Ward! Best friends (derogatory)
11.09 O Brother, Where Art Thou?
Lucifer sends Sam visions of the Cage, making it seem like he's the only hope against the Darkness. Sam travels to the Cage to talk with Lucifer.
11.14 The Vessel
Sam finds out Lucifer is possessing Castiel, and the soul fisting scene 2.0 happens.
13.21 Beat the Devil
Sam dies in the Apocalypse World, and Lucifer brings him back. Calls back to 5x03 where Lucifer claims he'd just bring Sam back if he tried to kill himself.
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ruinedsam · 1 year
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spnmarchmadness · 1 year
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LETS GO SPORTS FANS
the official ranks are in. if you want to participate in the bracket contest (its free. the prize will be the valor that comes from a job well done), you can do so here. 
if you just want to make a bracket for funsies, here’s a google sheet with the intial match ups seeded. The full seeding list is below the cut!
1. 5x22: Swan Song 2. 5x08: Changing Channels 3. 6x15: The French Mistake 4. 13x16: ScoobyNatural 5. 3x11: Mystery Spot 6. 2x22: All Hell Breaks Loose: Part 2 7. 4x01: Lazarus Rising 8. 10x05: Fan Fiction 9. 11x04: Baby 10. 11x20: Don't Call Me Shurley 11. 2x20: What Is and What Should Never Be 12. 3x12: Jus in Bello 13. 4x22: Lucifer Rising 14. 8x23: Sacrifice 15. 9x23: Do You Believe in Miracles? 16. 14x13: Lebanon 17. 14x20: Moriah 18. 1x22: Devil's Trap 19. 2x01: In My Time of Dying 20. 3x03: Bad Day at Black Rock 21. 3x16: No Rest for the Wicked 22. 4x18: The Monster at the End of This Book 23. 4x03: In the Beginning 24. 5x10: Abandon All Hope... 25. 5x21: Two Minutes to Midnight 26. 7x10: Death's Door 27. 11x09: O Brother Where Art Thou? 28. 2x15: Tall Tales 29. 2x21: All Hell Breaks Loose: Part 1 30. 4x16: On the Head of a Pin 31. 4x06: Yellow Fever 32. 5x04: The End 33. 6x20: The Man Who Would Be King 34. 8x17: Goodbye Stranger 35. 1x12: Faith 36. 12x10: Lily Sunder Has Some Regrets 37. 5x14: My Bloody Valentine 38. 5x03: Free to Be You and Me 39. 4x20: The Rapture 40. 13x06: Tombstone 41. 14x14: Ouroboros 42. 3x13: Ghostfacers 43. 7x17: The Born-Again Identity 44. 8x11: LARP and the Real Girl 45. 7x20: The Girl with the Dungeons and Dragons Tattoo 46. 15x09: The Trap 47. 12x11: Regarding Dean 48. 6x04: Weekend at Bobby's 49. 12x06: Celebrating the Life of Asa Fox 50. 8x08: Hunteri Heroici 51. 5x16: Dark Side of the Moon 52. 13x05: Advanced Thanatology 53. 1x06: Skin 54. 9x18: Meta Fiction 55. 10x22: The Prisoner 56. 15x18: Despair 57. 14x04: Mint Condition 58. 2x13: Houses of the Holy 59. 9x06: Heaven Can't Wait 60. 15x15: Gimme Shelter 61. 3x08: A Very Supernatural Christmas 62. 10x14: The Executioner's Song 63. 14x10: Nihilism 64. 11x14: The Vessel
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jackexmachina · 2 years
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Lucifer’s Ring You know why that is? Because we’re two halves made whole. M. F. E. O. Literally.
image description: various shots featuring Lucifer wearing a wedding ring from “Abandon All Hope...,” “Meet the New Boss,” “Hello, Cruel World,” “Repo Man,” “The Born-Again Identity,” “There’s Something About Mary,” “All Along the Watchtower,” “Devil’s Bargain,” “Exodus,” and “Let the Good Times Roll”
5x10: Lucifer speaks to Castiel who is trapped in a ring of holy fire, his ring glints in the light, and he seems to warm his hand on the flames
5x10: Lucifer performs the ritual to summon death with his hands spread as he turns around to face a group of demons.
7x01: Hallucifer tells Sam he’s wrong about being free of the cage, gesturing with his hands.
7x02: Hallucifer sits at Bobby’s kitchen table picking at his nails with a knife while Sam is on the phone.
7x15: Sam hangs up after leaving Dean a voicemail, Hallucifer tells Sam that Dean not answering his phone is a bad sign, gesturing with his left hand. Sam ignores him.
7x15: Sam sits on a motel bed, trying to ignore Hallucifer, who points to him and tells him that Sam let him in.
7x17: Hallucifer appears to blow away a ring of salt, Sam leans into the wall behind him, afraid.
12x21: Lucifer sits on a chair with his hands braced together in front of his face, he is still captured and in chains in Crowley’s lair. He rolls his eyes.
12x23: The camera pans up Lucifer walking through a destroyed room with blood on the floor, as he twirls a lock of Rowena’s hair in his left hand.
13x13: Lucifer looks over at Sam as he clenches his fists, Sam is hunched on the floor trying to gasp for air.
13x22: Lucifer glances around, seemingly friendly, gesturing with his left hand to Sam as he tells everyone they should be thanking him for bringing him back to life.
13x23: Lucifer raises his left hand to angrily point at Jack, as he tells him that he’s too much like his mother.
13x23: Close up on Lucifer’s hand, his ring glints as he uses his left hand to summon his archangel blade. The shot changes to show Jack and Lucifer standing in front of stained glass, Sam off to Lucifer’s other side. Lucifer watches Sam as he drops the blade; Sam and Jack watch it drop to the ground between them.
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Thinking abt how how Lucifer never really asks Sam to say yes rn. He says that Sam’s his true vessel and that he will give in eventually in 5x03 and is like “I don’t suppose you’ll just get this over with” in 5x10 but he’s never explicitly like “pls let me in” I don’t think. Inchresting
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rottencaniness · 1 year
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“you are not taking Sam Winchester. I won’t let you.”
|| 5x10 Abandon All Hope… || Castiel talking to Lucifer
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thebeautyofspn · 1 year
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5x10 Abandon All Hope...
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slayernina · 1 year
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Speculation Time: season 6
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Season 5 had his highs and lows and surely it’s divisive among the fandom. For me, it has some of the best ideas of the show but badly executed. Since the fandom more or less agreed about how rushed everything was on season 5, what would you have changed in the case season 6 was green lighted? What would you have cut, or change, or rearrange, or extend from season 5 into season 6?
The episodes are separated into Plot A (Liv’s brains) and Plot B (what characters do outside the murder of the week, during the full season).
My ideas:
During season 5
From 5x01 to 5x06 everything is more or less the same, but most of scenes related to Plot As and Bs are separated and rearranged:
• Plot A. Rose McIver will continue to entertain us with her acting abilities and over the top brains, but the brains are used again to make Liv reflect on her undead life, like on season 1.
• Plot B. Instead of a terminal disease, Evan joins the Renegade team on 5x01. Liv and Evan work together and had all that deleted plot of Evan’s sexuality. He starts living with Liv, appears regularly and hangs out with the heroes during season 5 and 6. Evan could help Liv with a case and after an episode full of sibling banter, reveals his sexuality (and his boyfriend). Eva also appears mid season 5 a couple of times.
• Plot B. Martin should have been introduced earlier on season 5 and should have stood around more, both as Liv's dad and as an antagonist, so his murder was more impactful (and the fact he was the creator of Utopium too). He would have been killed around 5x11 anyway. In that episode, a Martin/Eva flashback of their relationship would have been good.
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• Plot B. Enzo/Major are more or less the same as the real season 5, and both are expanded well into season 6 (their character arcs and ending are also the same). Justin is a frenemie during both seasons, but we see how he got into the Big Brother cult. There is also at least one Liv/Justin scene discussing their past relationship.
• Plot B. More Dale interacting with the heroes in all episodes until the end of season 6. She has Baby Olivia at the end of season 5.
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• Plot B. More Darcy, at least one scene in half of the episodes. How she went so hard into Don E? Why she was so on board with Blaine’s gang? Introduce her formally as Don E’s girlfriend to the heroes and make them interact with her. Of the good guys, she only met briefly Major and he never asked why she was there, when clearly she wasn’t a zombie, a drug dealer nor a prostitute… The fact Blaine tried to hide Darcy in the basement with him can spark several fics itself lol. Maybe Liv or Ravi can brought up Isobel to her, and she reacts with “I’m not a sick angel or a placement goldfish” reaction. We could have had an exploration of another type of sociopath, or just how sick people =/= good. Her death and why she died would have happened around the end of season 6.
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• Plot B. Until 5x10 aka the Noir Episode, more Candy. I just love her. We never really knew why she went on Blaine's side so willingly even when she was human, and given how she was the only "bad" zombie character surviving, she deserved more scenes. For those who watched Lucifer, the Candy of that show acted like a dumb bimbo but it was all a charade. At the end, this seemed to be her case.
• Plot B. Dolly Durkins is clearly the Big Bad of this season. She confronts Peyton in public over and over again and mess with Fillmore Graves in secret. At the end of the season, she has become Mayor because she spilled Peyton’s idea of how she got the budget for the HiZombie webshow. When she is about to take charge, one of Mr. Boss minions kills her on live TV.
• Plot A. Ditch Sporty!Liv, it didn’t add anything to the plot, the character and it wasn´t fun to watch (except the kegel exercises and the Pavi sex scene). Keep the scenes with the Death Enders and choose instead another brain.
• Plot A. Liv eating the brain of a drug addict. Let's watch the show from "the other side". Plot B could be an investigation at the Scratching Post, but following the everyday of the workers instead (this must happen before 5x10 aka the noir episode). Candy went from one scene Trivial Genie, to cosmetologist, to the only human at a brain zombie scheme, to mutineer, to Madame, to the only member of Blaine´s gang getting away (and surviving). Tanner was one of Major’s kids that went wrong and we never explored that. Darcy became Don E’s girlfriend. Why. I need more of those people. You know your society doesn’t work if regular people are better under someone like Blaine than having a normal life in “the system”. Blaine and the Eberhard twins could count this in regard to Mr. Boss, so a flashback or conversation of how they ended working for Mr. Boss could have been great. Bonus points if Tanner’s sister makes a cameo and is played by Julia Garner aka Ruth from Ozark (after all, Blaine’s accountant is called Marty XD).
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• Plot A. Brain of a journalist. Liv investigates something and the episode brings back Steph (it’s a news camerawoman), Shawna (she is a blogger) and Rachel (she is a journalist and made a cameo on the real season 5). The three of them roast Ravi and Major together. Plus, Al Bronson is around that and joins the investigation and non-officially the hero group in the following episodes.
-Major trashes the place while Liv is hiding, drama with both Major and Justin.
-Clive (and somehow Ravi) spend a full episode learning to be a father with puppets, Dale is Liv´s investigator partner.
-A brief scene of Blaine, Don E, Darcy or Al going to the morgue for whatever reason, to find out it’s the afternoon shift instead and Liv and Ravi were on their free day XD. Bonus points if there is a girl like Liv and a boy like Ravi. More bonus points if Liv 2.0 is played by Kristen Bell and Ravi 2.0 is Raymond Ablack (there’s no budget and schedule limit for imagination lol).
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• Plot B. Al is introduced like she was on 5x04, but she goes on a full relationship with Blaine. Meanwhile she “investigates for the article”, she helps Liv with cases since she has access to more information, and helps destroying some minor Blaine and Dolly’s business. It looks for the audience like she was sent as a mole by Blaine, but at 5x13, turns out she was destroying him, Liv, and all Mr. Boss enemies, and her real identity (and the article) is revealed.
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• Plot B. Blaine spend season 5 living his best life, fluffy scenes with Al included. He got everything he wanted but at the end of season 5 he is annihilated by Mr. Boss and Al´s article and his last scene is going to prison.
Season 6
• Plot B. Call-backs to other seasons, after all is the last one. Make it feel like a big reunion. Bringing back characters like Johnny Frost, Johnny Frost's unknown wife (insert someone like Godess Gina Torres here lol), the lawyer, Jimmy, Vampire Steve, Pam, the group of superheroes… Also call-backs to past brains or jokes.
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• Plot B. Evan betrays the Renegade group because Enzo took his boyfriend, but at the end of season 6 he is the one killed at the news station in a dramatic way after shooting Enzo instead of that what’s-his-name-teacher.
• Plot B. More Ravi (and Blaine, Don E…) reacting to brains. The brains used on other characters other than Liv was severely underused.
• Michelle is killed at the end too, but we get to see Clive-Dale-Michelle coparenting before.
• Plot B. 6x01. Season 6 would have happen during 2020, so this would have been one of the shows that got cancelled or halted because of the pandemic XD. I propose to use it for plot reasons. Seattle is fully safe because of the wall. People are dying outside everywhere, so Mr. Boss uses all those extra brains to feed the city. He is appointed as the new Mayor because people, humans and zombies alike, prefer to be feed and safe. Riots of people in favour and contrary to Mr. Boss ensue. Mr. Boss and Al are a powerful Evil Team, like Vaughn Du Clark and Rita were, but this people did love and care for each other. But around 6x10, Blaine goes on full berserk and kills everyone (they are just humans after all).
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• Plot A. 6x02. Brain of a dull office worker ala Colin Robinson from What We Do In The Shadows. To compensate the boredom of the brain, the rest of the characters should be bonding. The show is severely lacking on terms of family bonding overall. Clive introduces Dale to his parents (or viceversa) and we discover they are amazingly embarrasing XD. Plot twist at the end of the episode: turns out the office worker wasn’t killed, it was a suicide. Liv and the other zombies reflects on how being undead have make them alive and make things they wouldn’t have done, retaking that Liv/Blaine conversation about being a zombie of 2x06.
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• Plot A. 6x03. Brain of a housewife/househusband with vivid imagination, thus creating a musical episode. Liv eating Rachel Bloom's brain and not turning anything into a musical only in Liv's imagination was a waste of a brain. Plus half of the cast can sing/play instruments so… Insert here over the top Moulin Rougesque musical numbers. At the end of the episode, we discover the housewife used musical numbers as a way to cope with their abusive partner.
• Plot A. 6x04: Surgeon doctor in a hospital episode. A what if episode of Liv reflecting what she could have been. Plot B could be more exploration about the Freylinch kids. They were crucial but we only know "they are super cheerful, macabre kids". One of them was the victim and other was the murderer. Let's explore terminal diseases (yes, I watched The Midnight Club) and how that affect people and their caretakers. Darcy should take the centre of the stage here. Eva Moore helps with the investigation too.
-After the hospital episode, she joins the Renegade team. Cue to hilarious scenes in which a Karen follows all the characters (I would kill for a scene of Eva confronting Don E and asking for the manager XD). Despite everything, she is useful around, though.
• Plot A. 6x05. Religious zealot. Also bringing back some Brother Love fanatics, their ideology shouldn't have disappeared like that. Maybe Liv has to eat that brain in secret because the family didn’t want “the corpse corrupted” or whatever. In a show of undead people, I’m surprised the idea of souls/aftermath/etc only gets briefly explored in a couple of throwaway lines during a Chase/Blaine scene.
Plot B. Angus tried to play matchmaker with Liv and Blaine. Blaine and the Eberhard twins worked for Martin. Something must be done with this, please.
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• Plot A. 6x06. Bridezilla. Liv eats a paranoid soon to be bride, and the episode is full of Lilymoore scenes. In the heat of the moment, bringing back her one night stand with Chase to create drama with Major. At the end, Liv and Major agree to get married… someday. We see Dale and Clive parenting, and Michelle on her own too. Pavi scenes. Ravi trying to introduce Peyton to videogames. Ravi and Peyton have an honest conversation, she doesn’t want to be a mother and they agree to be a childfree couple.
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• Plot A. 6x07. Evil Mafia Lord. We have seen Liv eating a psychopath and being a racist asshole, but we have never seen Liv been truly awful. Like using her body to get what she wants, betraying her friends or killing someone in cold blood for her own interest because she is a serial killer or something. A plot dealing with the aftermath of her actions for several episodes could have been interesting. Blaine, Mr. Boss or even Don E making an insight about it and challenging her perceptions of what it’s right or not. Liv pulling off a Stocker piano duet scene with Blaine. After that conversation about being a zombie in 2x06 and their fist showdown on the noir episode, those two didn´t interact again with deep conversations. That could have been the moment in which Blaine could have brought up the fact Liv technically created him while pouring her drink at the boat party.
• Plot A. 6x08. Fanfic writer/tumblr/Reddit fan of Peyton's webshow. Another wasted opportunity for a thousand of internal jokes and a take at toxic/incel fandom. It could be great if the characters go to a Con in Zeattle and we have Clive and Ravi together nerding around (and being the investigator partners of the episode). Bonus: Ravi meets Henry Cavill and nerd over Warhammer.
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• 6x09. Brain of one of the show writers. A meta episode explaining how they got pitched by the network despite this bonkers idea. Plot B: a full flashback episode. What the characters were doing before the boat party, and Freudian explanations about how they reacted to events later. We could have had Liv's mom pressing Liv and how her life was a Gone Girl/Luckiest Girl Alive scenario in which she tries to be perfect. How Lilymoore human ship really was and all the cracks under the surface. Ravi and his days at the CCDE, later expulsion. Peyton and her dull, boring boyfriend chosen by her parents who never challenges her and pressures her to be just a housewife and have babies (that could explain why she fell so easily for bad boy Blaine –twice- and why she didn't have any stable romantic relationship until that point). Blaine being a loser and everyone’s bitch, and his obsession with status and money. Scott E and Don E relationship with an insight about their home lives, including Scott E being so against being a father. Bonus points if they pull off a Lost flashback and all the characters cross paths (like sharing an elevator, waiting on the line at the supermarket…) but without interacting or acknowledging each other.
• 6x10. Brain of a rockstar or a groupie. I just want Rose McIver on rock/punk clothes, ok? Bonus points if it's a lesbian rockstar. Why this never was brought up (but in my mind everyone is bisexual until proven otherwise)? Lowell ate that gay brain… Plot B could be Peyton side plot as the producer dealing with all the shenanigans of her webshow. She has a road trip with Don E. She needs to get budget and sponsors outside Seattle, he smuggles her out. Turns out Don E used the road trip to visit Scott E’s child in secret. He admits to Peyton in a sincere conversation that he prefers the child is in foster care instead of his care (or his mom) because that would result in another Eberhard mess.
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• 6x11. Also, since it was 2020, you have a cop show, and one of your protagonists is a black cop, #BlackLivesMatter. It’s impossible to not touch the matter. Liv eats the brain of a black guy killed by cops. In the other side, Cavanaugh is killed on service. Liv and Dale go on an investigation. Episode full of prejudices and a white guy as the real killer pulling off a Amy Dune strategy. Ravi, while being European and brown, can also have an input about how racism works in other countries (instead of the USA “hey a cop just shot me!”). Hopeful scenes of humans and zombies joining forces to catch the murderer of the week (all the call-backs mentioned earlier, reunited in an Avengers Assembly moment). That scene with everybody happily dancing at the Scratching Post always gets me T_T.
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6x12 and 6x13 more or less as the original 5x12 and 5x13 but:
• Plot B. A darker plot for Blaine during the full season. He escaped somehow from prison on 6x01 (maybe the last good thing Don E did?) after a very, very bad time there (implied beatings and rape and everything). He stayed at Don E’s basement again, this time more depressed and deranged, but Don E ends fed up with his attitude (“I don’t want another junkie like Scott E living here!”) and throws him out. He ends homeless, addicted, alcoholic, pimping himself out for a shot, like he was while being human but way more insane and desperate. All the scenes in which he appears or interact with the heroes we see him more and more spiralling out of control. He kills Tanner and Darcy mid season 6, kills later Mr. Boss and Al. Insert a monologue ala Cruella because I think David Anders can pull off something like that in front of his grandfather’s tomb. Don E helps him to kidnap Peyton because he is afraid about the consequences of not doing what he wants. Thanks to an old chat founded on Darcy’s phone about Darcy and Don E hosting a rave at the McDonough Mansion, Mr. and Mrs. Bennet are the ones guiding Liv there (that would be the explanation on how Liv arrived on the real 5x13).
• Liv arrives on time to have a final conversation/fight with Blaine, but Don E interrupts them throwing Blaine at the well while ranting his final speech. Liv abandons him instead of killing him to look for Peyton’s corpse (and happy reunion instead).
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• I'm ok with the time skip to the future, but I would have prefer watch the characters doing stuff with Liv’s voiceover: we see Lilymoore hid at the island. The Babineaux-Bozzio family everyday, with online D&D sessions on full cosplay including Vampire Steve and Jimmy. Ravi working at the CCDE and Peyton as District Attorney (someone enters into Peyton´s office and she closes quickly a window with the Sims or COD lol). And Don E sits at the office of his club having a reunion with Mafia Lords and hinting he is the new Blaine/Mr. Boss. Even a shot of corrupted zombie Blaine at the well (but maybe that’s too much).
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