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wen-kexing-apologist · 7 months

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Is there a character/actor you have really enjoyed analyzing body language for? What about a performance makes it interesting to analyze?

Oooo what a great question!

I don’t think I have like a particular actor whose body language I look forward to analyzing. In general, I think I’m just constantly subconsciously analyzing everything.

When I turn on the more intentional analysis brain, it is actually often for performances I don’t enjoy, and that is to help me figure out what about the performance is putting me off. Like I said in my response to @waitmyturtles yesterday, microexpressions can be kind of hard for me to see, but they are absolutely one of the most vital aspects of informing character for me. So if I see an actor who is playing a flat character, I will actually start paying more attention to them, or rewatching the show/movie and specifically concentrating on their face, backing up scenes, etc. in order to see if they are actually delivering a packed performance or if they just can’t act.

I said this in my last post too, but examples of people whose performances I didn’t really love: Copter in La Pluie and Saint in Step by Step because both of those boys are very stiff. They don’t have obvious internal monologues. It works in Copter’s favor with Lomfon, it does not work in Saint’s favor for Jab.

Examples of people whose performances I didn’t initially love, but came around to after spending some time actually analyzing their faces: Luca Marinelli in The Old Guard who is a truly masterful microexpressive actor, but the first time I saw him play Nicky I thought he was just flat, upon second, third, eleventh viewing of that film his performance grows stronger and stronger for me.

Earth Pirapat in A Tale of a Thousand Stars, I actually have yet to go back to watch the original show, but being more familiar with Earth after seeing Cupid’s Last Wish, Moonlight Chicken, and Mama Gogo, I was much more able to read Phupa’s face and pick up on things in his performance I would have otherwise missed.

There are, of course, the chameleons, like First Kanaphan, Khaotung Thanawat, and Gun Atthaphan, who are just fun to see slip in to vastly different characters. Neo is showing his acting chops in Only Friends right now in so strong a way he is truly blowing my fucking mind, because to be honest, I have not really enjoyed the other characters of his.

If you read my response to Turtle’s ask last night, you will see a pretty extensive list of people actors whose performances are truly wonderful to watch.

All of this said, if I am not actively focusing on what is making me not like a performance, I will rewind and watch scenes on a loop like four or five times before moving on if they are particularly emotionally complex. So sex scenes and fight scenes are some of my favorite things to watch because there are so many emotions flying that have to turn on a dime, and the choreography that it takes to make those romantic or explosive scenes feel believable and powerful. The way Uchino in What Did you Eat Yesterday? handles Kenji’s body after he hears Shiro express his fears that Kenji is dying, because Kenji was being cagey about his balding, is truly masterful! The way Hagiwara Riku is able to just flip back and forth between adorable cutesy boyfriend, and truly murderous violence in Utsukushii Kare: Eternal, the way Pee Peerawich handled the fight in Episode 10 of La Pluie.

I don’t know, all in all, I can’t act, so it is fun watching people who are good at their job, absolutely demolish playing a completely different person.

#only friends the series #la pluie #step by step #moonlight chicken #the old guard #utsukushii kare #what did you eat yesterday?#not me the series #gun atthaphan #first kanaphan #khaotung thanawat #earth pirapat #luca marinelli #hagiwara riku #uchino

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cherubinas · 10 months

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it's very important to me that you guys know i'm not voting for which luca marinelli character would win in a physical fight, but who i would like to pick up like ferret the most

#mostly. think that gif of jake gyllenhaal for reference. you know the one #luca marinelli

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nicojoe · 1 year

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#now i've got this mental image of yusuf pitching his voice lower for the first few months he and nicolo travelled together because he wanted

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FIRST SET PICS FROM TOG2

SPOILER (kinda) behind the cut:

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I’m just gonna imagine they have a cast group chat 🥺

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Luca Marinelli and Marwan Kenzari film a scene on July 4th at the Molo Audace in Trieste, Italy (x)

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Nicolò and Yusuf, “First Smile”

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My #1 post of 2022

i saw someone say that OFMD’s queer rep is unprecedented in mainstream entertainment and started to feel myself get a little exasperated when i realized that Netflix is entirely at fault for not properly promoting The Old Guard for what it is.

the general public (if they were even aware of it) assumed it was just another dumb, straight-to-streaming action flick when instead it’s essentially a found family story about a diverse group of queer immortals who’ve used their indestructible bodies to fight against oppression for centuries.

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fromthefishbowl · 2 years

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Okay, so... I’m seeing a lot of people already enraged about 2 Old 2 Guard, writing posts about what the producers are gonna do and what they’re not gonna do, what is offensive and what isn’t, how X and Y actors/characters should be treated, and I just need to say this: in the kindest, least personal way possible, you should know that producers, agents, and celebrities don’t care about your blogs and your opinions. They don’t read your blogs, they don’t scroll through your Twitter profiles, they don’t run through your fics. The times they interact with you, usually on Twitter, are to keep up a façade that helps them make money, because what you’re doing is free promotion for the product they’re selling.

Back when the sequel was announced in the summer of last year, plenty of blogs were already out there writing posts about how they were surprised that the actors wanted to work together “despite all the drama”, and I really need you guys to understand that the drama on Tumblr, Twitter, and generally the fandom as a whole is not about the celebrities themselves.

Did the movie give them good money? Yes.

Did the movie give them good rep? Yes.

Did the movie promote their other works? Also yes.

That’s what they care about, not the fact that a handful of blogs on a dying platform like Tumblr have been having fights about absolutely nonsensical discourse.

Fandom, for producers and celebrities, is just an easy way to promote their works in a way that is free and also ego boosting, not a well of knowledge they should dip their hands into for their newest works.

To give you a perspective on this whole issue: A list celebrities - so basically all the TOG cast, minus maybe Luca Marinelli, who is more stuck into the Italian-sphere - do not consider youtubers on the same level of fame as themselves. Remember when James Charles was invited to the MET Gala, a while ago? Not a single celebrity acted like they were his friends. He was an everyday person who wasn’t worthy of their attention. This was before the various scandals, this was before Bye Sister, this was when James was at the top of his career, with millions of loyal subscribers. If they don’t consider someone like that as someone who is worthy of their time, do you really think they’d recognize you and your anonymous blog with a couple thousand followers at best as someone who is?

And yes, we can then go into the whole issue of celebrity culture, how they’re people just like us, all that good shit that you discuss with your friends while drinking wine out on the porch, but the summary remains: they don’t care about your blog, what you consider a good or bad take or what you’d really like to see in the movie. The most important thing, for them, is that you’re gonna watch the movie and will keep promoting it while filling their pockets.

#the old guard #the old guard 2 #2 old 2 guard

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pochiperpe90 · 3 years

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Here comes “The Old Guard”. Marinelli goes to Hollywood, alongside Charlize Theron.

“Alone, fragile and immortal.”

A story of love, friendship and compassion with an ancient warrior and a young African American, who has just discovered she is immortal, as protagonists. Because the world needs women and courage knows no gender differences. 20 years after “Love & Basketball” and after “The Secret Life of Bees” and “Beyond the Lights - Find Your Voice”, Gina Prince-Bythewood comes to the action movie with very clear ideas on how to reinvent the rules. We talked to her over the phone while she was in Los Angeles during the lockdown.

A superhero movie that doesn't look like a superhero movie. Is that why you decided to make it?

Absolutely yes, when I read the script I realized that despite the fantastic genre there was a very realistic background. These characters are real and it's easy for the audience to relate to them despite being immortal. They fight for goals and reasons that people understand. The more realistic the film, the more viewers can reflect themselves in the protagonists.

In fact, the most fascinating aspect of the characters is their vulnerability: they are immortal, but up to a certain point, which is a paradox. They too have to deal with the sense of the end.

There is a possibility that they may die, that their immortality is interrupted, that they still suffer from their wounds, and this brings them closer to us. The public still feels sorry for them when they see them in danger.

Immortals suffer, and not just physically.

Many think that being able to live forever would be extraordinary, but no one asks what this really means. Immortality has consequences: it can be a gift, but it can also be a curse.

And we don’t know why immortality fell to them.

The thing I loved about the graphic novel and the script is the fact that there is no explanation. Not only do we not know it, but neither do the protagonists. But it is a trilogy and therefore there is still a lot to tell.

Could you offer your contribution to the script?

It was a great script, with great roles based on the graphic novel so I stayed very true to the text. With the author, Greg Rucka, we wanted to reflect on the fear of taking someone's life, the one that sometimes overwhelms soldiers in war, whose psychology is often neglected. Hollywood films have never been very concerned with this aspect, as if killing had no consequences. The protagonists are forced to kill, but if someone has been doing it for centuries, for others it’s the first time.

What struck you about Luca Marinelli?

I could talk about him for days, I love him, he's the actor that all directors dream of having on set. He loved the character and gave him life in a very credible way. Between him and Marwan Kenzari is born a great complicity, necessary between two people who have been together for centuries. Luca's eyes are full of soul, his Nicky is the heart of the group, he’s the most sensitive character of all of them.

Charlize Theron, who is also one of the producers, has an increasingly and more torn body.

Charlize has already played roles like this one, she is very credible in the genre of action and has been helpful to who had never faced it before. From her, who really worked hard, others learned to do the same. She is very credible in the role of a woman who lived for thousands of years.

Matthias Schoenaerts, on the other hand, has an insidious role.

He embodies the tragedy of immortality, loneliness, betrayal. He is the actor who most resembles his character in the graphic novel. He wanted to make the film at all costs because he had never measured himself with the action genre and felt he had things to express.

The film underlines how today it’s no longer possible to hide, images can capture you at any time.

In a scene near the end, when the immortals look at photos and articles about them, they truly become aware for the first time of everything they have done to protect humanity. They understand the power of images from which they continually try to escape in order to hide their identity.

And then we talk about science and profit.

In the film, people from different places join forces to protect the world, a need even more relevant today. Yet it is increasingly evident that profit matters more than human lives.

Do you think the film industry is becoming more inclusive with women?

Things are finally changing and I am grateful that, despite having no other action films on my resume, I have been entrusted with The Old Guard. I am grateful for the trust they have placed in me. It should be taken for granted by now that women are capable of coping with any film genre and I think how much pressure from the industry Patty Jenkins, who directed Wonder Woman to success and opening the door for many of us, went through. But the door must be wide open because there are still few who have such opportunities.

In your opinion, have opportunities grown with the arrival of platforms like Netflix?

Netflix wasn't afraid to trust a series of directors. Which studio would have produced Roma or Irishman? He has the courage to make films that Hollywood deems too risky.

The Golden boy

“Luca Marinelli, as we have never seen him before: in his Hollywood debut, he becomes an immortal and fights with Charlize Theron to save the world.”

Just before the lockdown he was one of the jury members of the 70th Berlinale in the city where he has lived for years - and he swears he had so much fun watching three films a day. The audience awaits him in theatre in the role of Diabolik, in the film directed by Manetti Bros., but on July 10th he arrives on Netflix with The Old Guard, the action movie that sees him alongside Charlize Theron. And where he plays the Italian Nicolo, Nicky for the group of immortals he belongs to. Directed by Gina Prince-Bythewood and based on the graphic novel by Greg Rucka and Leandro Fernández, the film offers Luca Marinelli an insidious superpower, an endless love and a new opportunity to demonstrate his talent as a true champion. We reached him on the phone and he, less shy than usual, told us how he became a secular "superhero".

How did you get to the project?

I auditioned in London, where I later returned and met the director. Lastly, there was a final meeting between me and Marwan Kenzari. We made a scene together and then they announced to me, "We'd love for you to be Nicky."

What struck you about this character?

The story fascinated me because it tells of immortals as if they were the damned. Nicky and Joe live this condition as a gift because they are linked by a wonderful love story and they are not alone. They met in an absurd and paradoxical situation, during the Crusades, ready to kill themselves. They did it a hundred times and then they looked at each other and fell in love. But others suffer from it, like Andy and Booker. In a beautiful scene, Booker, played by Matthias Schoenaerts, explains what happens to them: they see the people they love die and blame them because they cannot prevent it. And they are tired of watching the world repeat itself following the same dynamics. They fight to save people, but everything seems to go on the same way. Only in the end will they discover what they have done and what they are doing.

How did it go with Charlize Theron?

Well, it was wonderful! As I read the script I said to myself: am I really going to make a film with Charlize Theron? And hug as well! I was very excited and intimidated already while reading. She is an extraordinary actress. In the scene where we are at the table and everyone tells Nile something about us, Andy tells her what we are and it was nice to see her running and venturing into the midst of emotions and thoughts. Sometimes I got distracted and didn't say my line. But Charlyze is also a crazy athlete. You have to be really athletes, otherwise you don't survive at the end of the day. And Charlize is an athlete of the body and the heart.

What about her athletic training?

We got together a month before shooting to start working with the stunts. I had to get some athleticism back: when I arrived and they looked at me I think they were a little worried. We had to become familiar with martial arts and then we switched from the sword to other weapons and to hand-to-hand combat. We prepared scene by scene, including the choreographies, different for each fight, and each of us had his own rubber reproduction of the sword. It was an unforgettable training.

The immortals come from different places in the world. How much of Italy is there in Nicky?

Apart from the pronunciation? They still laugh at some of the things I said. Marwan and Matthias, but also Charlize, speak Italian at different levels and every now and then I enjoyed shooting a few sentences to which they could answer me.

Did you offer your character something that wasn't in the script?

Well, being in such a group, shy as I am ... I tried. I have always focused on the bond between Nicky, Joe and the other members of the group, because I am interested in discovering what is inside a character, his feelings, how he looks at the world, what excites him. Nicky has lived for centuries, but still greets the people he meets in the desert with a smile, inside him there is the flame of an infinite good. Each character has a different sensitivity and their own armor. Nicky is perhaps the least armored one.

The challenge was also to make people believe in a love story that has lasted for centuries.

Marwan recites a beautiful monologue in which he talks about their love story. I hope that each of us, in their short life, can say the same thing about the person they love.

You’ve already had superpowers in “They Call Me Jeeg”. What is your relationship with this genre?

I like it very much and I think that both films, very different from each other, have a very interesting soul. In Jeeg Robot, Enzo Ceccotti uses his superpowers to help others, taking on a social responsibility. In The Old Guard the protagonists put themselves at the service of others, even if no one has asked them to. “This is what we do,” they repeat over and over to each other. What they do is save people, participate in what they think is right.

How do you think they would react to protests on American streets and around the world?

I don't feel like playing games, mixing reality and fiction on a terribly real subject like this. I think that in reality, outside of any cinematic fiction, it’s fundamental to fight for equality, within society, but also within ourselves. To go back to our film, if in a microscopic way we manage to carry a message in that direction, I would be very happy.

What director was Gina Prince-Bythewood?

She is always ready to listen, and I am someone who asks a lot of questions even at inappropriate times. She always had great patience and was very attentive to the emotional side of the film, to the interiority and beauty of the characters.

CIAK Magazine - Luglio 2020

Just wanted to translate this old interview for the non-italian’s fans ^^ (sorry for my English)

#Luca Marinelli #marwan kenzari #Charlize Theron #gina prince bythewood #Matthias Schoenaerts #the old guard #TOG #TOG Cast #Film #netflix #magazine #movie #interview #english #english translation #mine #joenicky #joe x nicky #Immortal husbands

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explorersaremadeofhope · 4 years

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should you fight luca marinelli's characters? a partial list

NICKY: this man has 900 years of combat experience. fortunately for you, he’s nice. which means you wouldn’t die, but you would look like an idiot. do not fight.

GABRIELE: look at him. look at how soft his hair is. you want to hurt that? no. give him a blanket and a boat and let him be happy, you monster.

PRIMO: this man is constantly armed and high on coke. the stache gives him near unlimited power. do not fight primo. you will lose.

MARTIN: look, i get it. but just... he’s been through a lot. maybe make him some tea? don’t fight martin.

FABIO: can turn anything into a weapon and has spectacular anger management issues. he's a bit scrawny, but he makes up for it by being completely unhinged. also, slippery. do not fight.

FABRIZIO: you could probably get a decent brawl going with fabrizio. he seems like he’d be down. would probably give you a cigarette after. fight fabrizio.

GUIDO: you could absolutely fight guido. you would probably win. but how would you live with yourself?

MICKEY: you try to fight mickey. you really do. but somehow you always seem to end up doing something else. it might be best to give it up.

#luca marinelli #nicolo di genova #fabio cannizzaro #primo nizzuto #martin eden #i haven't even seen all of these so this is lowkey one of those 'these characters based on what my discord friends say' powerpoints

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dialux · 2 years

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I posted 2,088 times in 2021

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#i also find it wild that ppl actually think that luca marinelli is goodlooking but apparently the mustache is the selling point?????????????

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It isn’t that I want to give Caranthir all the trauma, but by god I’m just imagining it, right: Feanor’s never really paid attention to any of his sons’ hobbies because he’s got too many of his own, and this is fine, none of them mind it, not Maedhros or Maglor or Celegorm, who all have canonical very very very strong interests in things outside of forging. And then there’s little Caranthir, who doesn’t have a great interest in another craft and isn’t very good at any of them; who’s assured by everyone in his family that Feanor’s lack of interest in his hobbies is just... Feanor Being Feanor, which isn’t much of a comfort but some comfort.

At least it is until Curufin is born. Feanor is obsessed with Curufin, they’re a matched little pair, the two of them; and while the three elder brothers are old enough to understand that it’s just that Feanor vibes hard with this kid and also finds it difficult to relate to other interests, Caranthir is not, Caranthir is convinced that his father loves his brother more than him, Caranthir knows down deep that it’s his fault that he wasn’t good enough at forging to attract and keep his father’s attention, and there’s nothing that anyone can do to shift that bone-deep knowledge, not for all the years that Caranthir lives.

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Wait. I realise this isn’t in line with your height headcanon but….

The Noldor are really tall right? Like significantly taller then their Middle Earth counterparts. And the ones who grew up with Treelight are probably even taller. And also those of Tolkien’s works that describe Galadriel as tall are chronologically the later ones (the ones were she’s the only one of House of Finwe left).

So my new conspiracy is that Galadriel is one of, if not the shortest members of the House of Finwe. But like I said, the Noldor are tall as fuck, and the royal family are significantly taller than average, so once only Galadriel is left people always remark on how tall she is. And compared to most elves in Middle Earth she is, but if you put her next to her family, she looks absolutely Tiny.

If and when she meets Maglor again, every Third Age elf is in for one hell of a shock, when Galadriel the Tall just barely reaches the shoulders of her Kinslayer cousin (Bonus points of Maglor then remarks that he’s the shortest of his brothers, and people have to reevaluate their entire lives once they do the math and realise just how tall Maedhros must have been).

Anon, how does it feel to be the funniest person on the planet

319 notes • Posted 2021-07-12 22:34:09 GMT

Feanorian Height Drama

Headcanons for the Feanorian Height Drama:

Maedhros is the tallest by a good margin. He never gets involved in any of the height fights, but he’s secretly very glad of the ability to completely insult Curufin by pretending not to know how to talk to short people

Speaking of which, Curufin’s the shortest by a good margin. He’s, like, a mm less than Feanor, too, but he never agrees to this indisputable fact, not even when his dad got involved with a tape measure

Maglor’s not VERY Tall, but he carries himself with the poise of a performer so everyone thinks he’s taller than he actually is

Caranthir’s actually the second-tallest brother, except it doesn’t seem like it because Maglor walks Like That and Celegorm is also Like That

Everyone keeps forgetting it except for Caranthir, who hooks his chin over Maglor’s head when he wants to irritate him

Celegorm’s broad but not tall

Still taller than Curufin, though. And Celegorm does the same thing to Curufin as Caranthir does to Maglor, only Curufin got so pissed off once he rammed his head up and knocked out three of Celegorm’s teeth.

The Ambarussa are almost equal to Celegorm’s height, but maybe like a hair thinner?

Literally a hair thinner. As in Celegorm puffs his hair up like birds do with feathers, and the twins don’t.

Nerdanel is actually only an inch or so taller than Caranthir, and is the perfect height for him to smother with a hug while in Aman. Yes, he’s the mother’s pet of the Feanorians

So the overall order from shortest to tallest is: Curufin -> Feanor -> Ambarussa -> Celegorm -> Maglor -> Caranthir -> Nerdanel -> Maedhros

Feel free to add!

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I will never be over the fact that JRRT chose to give the majority of his kings (Feanor, Fingon, Turgon, Maedhros, even Gil-Galad dies because of the heat of Sauron’s hands) deaths by fire, while the queens (Idril, who sails into the sea; Elwing, who falls to her death in the ocean; Erendis who is never seen again but “perishes in the water”; Tar-Miriel, who is swallowed by the ocean when it drowns Numenor) drown.

503 notes • Posted 2021-01-22 14:30:11 GMT

So if Ulmo is lord of the waters and Morgoth is the lord of ice......... and water and ice are, fundamentally, the same thing............ does that mean there’s a temperature/pressure gradient above which Ulmo has control of that substance and below which it is Morgoth’s domain?

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the-ghost-of-jason-todd · 2 years

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i know nothing about nicky but i hella dig your rants so go for it B)

wait really? 🥺 bruh

this isn't a rant but rather more stream of consciousness rambling but i hope you like it anyway because HERE WE GO

UNDER A CUT BECAUSE WOW I TALK A LOT, HUH?

nicky (aka nicolo di genova, aka my tumblr url's namesake) is a character from the old guard, played by luca marinelli, an actor known for having one of the most facest faces i've ever seen. i swear to god i have never seen a picture of luca marinelli that i didn't love just because he's So Fucking Awkward but in a pretty kind of way. anyway. moving on. nicky, the character, is about a thousand years old, give or take. he was a christian crusader who was killed by (and who killed) joe (aka yusuf al-kaysani) who he then proceeded to fall in hella love with. they are soulmates. i will not be taking criticism.

in movie canon, nicky is a very steady sort of character. he rarely gets moved to anger, and even when he does he tends to express it in a very controlled, cold fury sort of way. he may or may not be christian at this point in time (religion hasn't really been discussed in depth by nicky or joe at this point, though a few other characters have) but he is defined by a steadfast sort of faith that their extraordinary lives have meaning. he calls the fact that they dream about each other before they meet 'destiny' and believes that they are meant to do good. he often says very profound things in an endearingly casual way. i love him a lot.

MOVING ON--i have seen a lot of fandom opinions and fics/meta on what it would take for nicky to go feral. i like a lot of them. but the one in particular i'm working on right now is a story-swap in the same vein as another fic i wrote a while back called saltwater sonata.

see, in movie canon, there are six immortals total--four of whom are over 500 years old. this is important, because approximately 500 years ago one of them gets locked in an iron maiden and dropped into the sea. she is immortal so she cannot truly die, and just drowns over and over and over. saltwater sonata and now this fic deal with the story-swap idea of what if one of the OTHER three immortals who were alive then got locked away instead?

quynh, the one who is in the iron maiden in canon, is defined by rage. she fights and fights and fights and does not stop. nicky, the one who is in the iron maiden in saltwater sonata, is defined by numbness. he went very still and entered a catatonic state. joe, the one who is in the iron maiden in this new fic, is defined by... well, remains to be seen, but i'm going to call it chaos. he runs the gamut between those two extremes, hitting every emotion in between, unable to hold onto anything for very long. despite the differences, they are all, to some extend, defined by the slow erosion of their humanity--just in different ways.

the FUN part of this is how this affects the people they leave behind on the surface. andy, who is quynh's equal (and likely her lover, though it hasn't exactly been canonized in the movie verse yet), is ruled by a sort of... i wouldn't call it apathy, necessarily, but it IS an absence. quynh rages, and andy carries the hole she left behind. she struggles to find any meaning in their life. she's untethered. they searched for quynh, of course they did, but they gave up and now andy has mostly given up on everything. she was alone for a long time before quynh was born, and she's resigned to the fact that she's essentially alone again now. she's accepted this, for a certain value of 'accept'.

joe, when it's nicky in the iron maiden, spends the entire five hundred years searching. he never stops, not even once. nicky is numb and empty, and joe is filled with a passion and persistence so strong that it transcends any rational course of action. he is TERRIFIED that nicky will become mortal and die for good before he can reach him, and thus he is driven to find him before that happens in a way none of the others are. nicky is lost, and so joe searches--and again, he's kind of accepted this as his fate. he is constant, and he cannot comprehend a world in which nicky was lost and he did NOT search.

which brings me to... nicky, when it's joe in the iron maiden.

in complete honesty, i think that canonically speaking, nicky would weather this the best of all of them. that faith he carries is a beautiful thing, and it would hurt, of course, but he would believe that they would find each other again and that alone would sustain him to an extent. HOWEVER. i ALSO think it's so much more fun to take his faith... and twist it a little. or, perhaps, a lot.

in the fic i'm writing, nicky is chaotic in kind of the same way that joe is chaotic. he can't settle, changes his mind at every turn, and has reached a point where he seeks pain... and he seeks purpose... and he believes they are one and the same. he was once a crusader, a mindless invader spurred forward by the words of the pope--it was joe's blade that altered the course of his life and gave him the time and the opportunity to rethink his actions, to become a better man. without joe, he feels... aimless at best. he feels like he's lost the self he gained when he walked beside joe, and he is CONSTANTLY searching for something that will alter his life again the way joe once did, that will help him get that self back. he wants to be that man again, the man that joe loved and who loved joe in turn, but he feels like it's beyond him and he needs some kind of outside intervention to get there. hence the seeking of pain, the seeking of purpose.

now... here's the fun part. he knows, without a shadow of a doubt, that joe changed his life the first time he killed him. and he knows that since joe went under, he's been searching for something that will change his life again, and he hasn't found it. and somewhere down the line, those two wires got HELLA crossed and he's come to the conclusion that one day joe will come back and kill him again. that dying by joe's hand once more will set everything right. he LIVES HIS LIFE by this, this idea that joe's blade will be his salvation. like god DAMN, the religious parallels alone are INSANE, my dudes.

beyond that, he really truly is chaos incarnate. honestly i just... i LOVE the idea that nicky gets weird as shit without joe. he's terminally on edge, seeks stimulation like whoa, and has MAYBE half of a working moral compass. he filters everything through joe--like, for instance, he knows that joe would be sad if he hurt his family. thus, if he accidentally hurts his family he isolates himself away in punishment. and the crazy thing is that he's actually VERY self aware, but with one very large blind spot? like he knows that he's kind of lost it, but he thinks that it will be fixed once joe kills him. he can't get past the fixation of joe killing him to see that that IN ITSELF is another iteration of the madness. it's just... it's fascinating to think about, and i am having the time of my GODDAMN life.

#omfg guys i'm so excited anon digs my rants #liveblogging tog #nicky di genova #feral nicky #liveblogging my writing #the light at the end of it all #meta #tog meta #mmmMmmmmMMMMMM

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luca marinelli character FIGHT: FINAL ROUND

it's been a fun ride. our final round is exactly what i expected it to be when this whole thing began, but truly where else could it have ended. it is, of course:

the RULES of this hypothetical fight are as follows:

weapons are BANNED.

re: nicky's immortality, within the constrains of the fight if primo managed to kill him then the fight would end and primo would win, even if nicky got better. essentially i want the immortality factor to have as little effect as possible (but he retains the 900 years of experience

outside help is not allowed. this is a one on one luca character only cage match.

take the above as guidelines only if you have a funnier hypothetical scenario but to keep this fair please vote based on who would win the fight. i think this is more evenly matched than one may think instinctually

ARGUMENTS can be found below the cut

i'll be honest these are difficult to divide into pro nicky vs pro primo arguments so here they are anyway and you can decide

"Nicky arguably wouldn't kill you unless you're a threat/have done something seriously bad, while Primo would probably kill you for cutting him off in traffic. He's killed people out of sheer annoyance and spite which is a thousand times more dangerous." - @goldheartedsky

"Nicky would not have needed two shots to stop Bertollini's car. Just saying." - @astrabear

"Primo junkies tend to dwell most on his physicality and malice (for good damn reason). But his cunning is what ultimately makes for winning ways. And yet, …how could he outmaneuver Nicky’s near millennia of sheer experience. That priestly powerhouse has seen it all. And yet, …Primo’s drive seems able to overrun every possible obstacle. Can he win on that white hot will? Or will another left hook like bicycles or phone phobias scupper his schemes? The only possible way to win this all is if he could manage to sway another Old Guardian to betrayal. To get the jump on Nicky (not that kind of jumping on) the surprise must come from within. No way Primo has that level of science or magic or whatever to sway one now. Nicky takes it and doesn't feel the least bit sad about it." - anon (really appreciate the level of thought put into this submission)

primo may strike first but nicky would retaliate and that would be the end of it

primo may have killed a lot of people but nicky has killed significantly more over the course of like 1000 years

and MY argument: i think primo could do it. i think primo could react with enough sheer speed and surprise factor that nicky would be caught off guard. but then again. this is nicolo di genova we're talking about here. ultimately i think they're fairly well matched under the above constraints. so.

#luca marinelli character FIGHT #luca marinelli #the old guard #trust fx #primo nizzuto #nicolò di genova #using main tags and everything. let's go #excited for this. hoping it's more well matched than people might initially assume. wanna have fun with it #i ended up deciding whether weapons are banned by asking my sibling who said yes #so they're banned. but i don't think it changes much about the outcome #they're pretty evenly matched both ways. i think #anyway. go forth and vote. please add your thoughts on how you think this is playing out / arguments onto the post itll be funny. audience #award for tags / arguments still undecided so

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The Old Guard (2020)

In other words: the best film of the year. I’m so overwhelmed by this movie that I don’t know what to start with – I can’t even sleep at night after watching it because I’m too excited – but here are why I loved this groundbreaking masterpiece. *spoler alert*

- Luca Marinelli: OK I’m starting with him, because he was the first reason for me to watch this movie. I’ve been stannning him since Lo chiamavano Jeeg Robot (his acting is just INTENSE in this italian superhero movie, where he plays the villain, please try it if you haven’t), and I have never missed a chance to catch up with his new works ever since, so there was no way I would’t watch The Old Guard on the first day of streaming. Oh thank you Luca for leading me to do this. Grazie mille.

- And the whole cast: Charlize Theron from Mad Max 4: Fury Road, Kiki Layne from If Beale Street Could Talk, Marwan Kenzari from Aladdin, Matthias Schoenaerts from De rouille et d'os, Chiwetel Ejiofor from The Martian, Ngô Thanh Vân aka Veronica Ngo from Furie… gosh every single one of them is my absolute favorite! There is no greater joy for movie fans than getting a good movie with their dream cast. It’s a gift.

- Queer romance (in an action film!): I’m a great fan of big-budget action films, as well as I love LGBTQ+ films; but somehow I’d never even imagined watching a big-budget action LGBTQ+ film. I guess it was a result of watching tons of hyper-heteronormative big franchise movies such as — well, I won’t start the list because there are too many, maybe almost all pieces in the genre. However, thanks to The Old Guard it is recognised that we do not have to stand those dull heterosexual moments anymore to enjoy brilliant action scenes (yeah, this masterpiece does not show any heterosexual love on screen). We are saved.

*Written above are my personal reasons – as many critics and audiences have already pointed out, The Old Guard is the first blockbuster movie to depict gay romance at the center of it. Refer to: https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/jul/10/the-old-guard-charlize-theron-gay-romance

- Female-to-female mentorship and more: In action films it’s very common that a young hero gets trained by a skilled, experienced elder – just as padawans are guided by Jedi masters – while the elder also gets inspired by the younger; but according to my observation this kind of relationship rarely happens between female charcters (exceptionally Jennifer Lopez and Constance Wu in The Hustlers were a bit like this, but you know it was not an big-budget action movie). That’s exactly what happened between Andy, the eldest, and Nile, the newcomer – and I absolutely loved it. And of course I was fascinated by the strong bond between Andy and Quynh (two of the world’s most powerful female action stars together as partners; who could imagine this??), and the short but very touching conversation Andy has with a drugstore employee (played by Olivia Ross) who takes care of her in the most helpless moment. So we have learned what happens when a female director makes a blockbuster action film: we do not have to stand displays of misogyny, such as unnecessary conflicts between female characters or sexual objectification of female bodies. Make sure this will be the new standard of the genre hereafter.

*I’d love to also mention the marvelous fighting sequences (Charlize Theron with an ancient axe, yes) and the cool music in the movie, but I won’t go further because I do not have sufficient knowledge to talk about it. So, go see it yourself and please tell me what you think.

And the question is: will there be a sequel? The answer must be YES, sooner the better, and I wouldn’t say one sequel is enough. (Of course prequels are welcome, too!) I already feel terrible pain and excitement thinking about the villain of The Old Guard 2… but anyway, I’m ready.

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nothinghappned · 2 years

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I posted 323 times in 2021

79 posts created (24%)

244 posts reblogged (76%)

For every post I created, I reblogged 3.1 posts.

I added 405 tags in 2021

#young royals - 155 posts

#m - 63 posts

#omar rudberg - 54 posts

#the old guard - 44 posts

#edvin ryding - 21 posts

#young royals cast - 19 posts

#luca marinelli - 16 posts

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#marwan kenzari - 9 posts

#sebastian stan - 8 posts

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#idk if its just me but i like the type of interviews that are more of a conversation and not some king of interrogation

My Top Posts in 2021

joe and nicky fighting with lots of men with swords while they are cuffed together by the hand aka them taking out bad people while holding hands, i would like to see it

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the fact that omar felt the need to talk about this (as well as bringing up that people are invasive with their families, friends and digging up their old pictures they don't want to see circulating in the internet in that radio interview) should be enough to know that just because edvin doesn't say anything directly it doesn't mean he's not affected negatively by strangers crowding and following him while he's on a private vacation with his friends (or like in any situation tbh). please don't treat him like a zoo animal!

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"Uh… I haven't really seen… I mean… I have seen people asking, being curious about it. But I just don't really… Like I don't feel like it's important, you know what I mean? Sometimes I feel like I just don't want to, as you said, label myself. And it doesn't mean that I'm this or that. It's just, you know, I'm a human being. Everybody goes through a lot of stages and a lot of stuff in their live, so I just don't really think about that so much. I feel like whenever I fall in love I'll fall in love with that person — and it will be great. So I feel like I kind of think about it like that. Uh… And I mean I don't wanna like close any doors. Like what if I say that I'm gay and then someday this girl walks up to me, and she's like super cute, and she's like super nice and I don't wanna like close any doors. What if I can fall in love with that girl, or you know — reverse, if I ever meet a guy or whoever… Like I just hate closing doors in whatever I do; like clothing, music, my sexuality, my everything. I feel like I'm an open book, I don't wanna close anything so — yeah."

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is it just me or young royals is basically a love letter to queer people? awkward handholdings, forehead touches, panic, intense eye contact, caressing each other's faces and hair, resting your head in your so's lap while they are running their hand through your hair, that really intense need for physical contact & just touch in general?? come on, y'all know what i mean

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year 2021: italy bullying the uk

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#my 2021 tumblr year in review #your tumblr year in review #m

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qqueenofhades · 4 years

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The photo set you reblogged of Yusuf and Niccolo helping throughout time just filled me with so many happy feels and it made me realize that it seems so common in media with immortal couples that they take breaks from each other and reconnect after a few decades. Which is a great trope but seeing these two that seems to have been attached at the hip since the day they met just fills me with all the heart eyes.

(I haven't read your fanfics for them yet. I know I'm a bad fan but if it helps I havent been able to read anything since all this started but while writing this ask I got the feeling that all this rambling I spewed out is a big theme)

Hush. Bad fan nothing. We all are coping with this stupid, awful year in different ways, some of us by escaping into fandom and some of us being unable to engage with it and some of us doing both or anything else. You certainly don’t owe me or anyone any obligation to interact with our content, fic or otherwise. So just to have that there on the top. You’re good, hun. :)

ANYWAY, thank you for giving me a chance to meta a bit on the boys and their relationship and to have a window into what my brain looks like pretty much 24/7 these days. (I blame them.) I keep thinking about all the ways this couple is depicted in the TOG film and how lovely it was and how unusual it is for me to have an OTP where I actually love them in canon and don’t need to violently disavow it in order to create AU fan content with just the characters. (See: Timeless, Game of Thrones, pretty much any show I’ve hyperfixated on at some point.) I love AUs anyway, because that’s the way my brain works, but the fact that I can also enjoy canon just as much is rare for me and for a lot of us. I saw a post somewhere remarking on how the fanfic for Joe/Nicky isn’t fixing anything, which is usually the point of transformative fanworks: we take something that canon atrociously fucked up and fix it. But in this case, all our interpretations are based on actually appreciating the way they’re presented in canon and wanting to enjoy that and uphold it, and that -- especially with a couple like this one -- is shocking??

Like. Despite my historian gripes about the occasionally incongruous details for their graphic-novel backstories (which are the only things I HAVE fixed in my fics), I’m just... deeply appreciative of the care which everyone, writers and actors and all else, put into depicting Joe and Nicky and their relationship. And god YES, one of the things I love the absolute MOST is that they’re a loving, faithful, committed, happy married queer couple over centuries, and that seems to be the case for as long as they’ve known each other/ever since they got together. (See Booker’s “you and Nicky always had each other.”) These fools can’t sleep apart from each other even when they’re stuck on a freight train in the middle of nowhere, they flirt like teenagers at dinnertime and even when they’re strapped to gurneys in a mad-scientist laboratory, they make out to enrage bad guys and also because they’re just still that goddamn into each other after all this time.

I think it was Marwan Kenzari who pointed out that there’s simply no way to truly state the depth of their knowledge and devotion and commitment to each other. They’re 950 years old. They have known each other since they were in their thirties; they’ve been husbands for literal centuries. There is no way anyone else in the world could possibly come close to replicating the kind of bond they have with each other, and neither of them have ever had any inclination to look, because why would they? Especially with the fact that queer couples in media, even otherwise sympathetically portrayed ones, often have Drama and Third Parties and Promiscuity and whatever else (because of the tiresome old canard that Gays Equal Hypersexualized!), and Joe and Nicky don’t need or want ANY of that. There’s no urge to make their relationship a cheap source of soap-opera conflict. It’s the rock and the center and the core of both of their lives, and everything they do stems from that.

There have been some great metas/comments on how neither Joe and Nicky are sexualized, they dress like stay-at-home dads during quarantine (Marwan Kenzari and Luca Marinelli are both objectively gorgeous men, and they’re out there looking like that, god bless), and the viewer is never invited to goggle at or fetishize their relationship. There are no leering or exploitative camera angles on anyone, and their expressions of love aren’t posed or intended to titillate the audience, they’re just solidly embodied and natural and lived in. It’s never bothered to be stated clunkily in dialogue that they’re a couple; we just see them exchanging looks and smiles in the early part of the film, and then we see them spooning on the train after the mission in Sudan, which confirms it.

At every turn, the narrative celebrates the kindness and love shared by the Immortal Family, the individual characters, and Joe and Nicky, especially and explicitly in queer form. The villains of the film are also defined by how they react negatively to that love. @viridianpanther had a great meta on how Keane as a villain is especially set up to menace Joe and Nicky as the narrative representation of toxic masculinity, aggressive heterosexuality, and the usual “Kill Your Gays” trope that we’ve all come to wearily expect. But instead, after that scene where Joe and Nicky fight Keane, Nicky is shot and comes back to life in Joe’s arms rather than dying permanently like we probably all momentarily expected, and then Joe gets to FUCKIN’ BREAK THE NECK of the guy who enacted that violence.... good GOD. The first time I watched it, I almost couldn’t believe it was happening. (This goes for the whole film, but especially that scene.) Like... when do we get that?? When do we EVER get that???

Obviously, there are so many stereotypes, whether visually or in behavior or character traits, that could have been assigned to a gay Italian character (excessively dramatic, effeminate, fashionable, etc) or a gay Arabic/Muslim character (explicitly announcing He’s Not Like Those Muslims, having to actively reject his heritage to make him more palatable to westerners, being tormented over being gay, etc) and Joe and Nicky subscribe to none of those. I get very emotional about Joe referring to Nicky as the moon when he is lost during the truck scene partly because it’s SUCH a common motif in Arabic love poetry. To call someone your “moon” is a beautiful way to say they’re the light of your life, and since the Islamic calendar is obviously lunar and the holidays, months, and observances, are set by the phases of the moon, this also has a deeper religious significance.

I don’t know for sure if they did that on purpose, but it it’s a lovely and subtle way of showing us how Joe clearly doesn’t have an issue with being both queer AND Muslim, and is able to draw on both facets of that identity in a way that a lesser narrative would have denied him. And that is just really wonderful. Yes, we’re seeing these characters when they’ve had centuries to settle into themselves, but there are plenty of writers who would have forced those conflicts artificially to the surface, rather than letting them be long in the past. It’s the same way when you watch a film set in the medieval era, it wants you to know that it Is Set In The Medieval Era. Cue the filth, misogyny, racism, violence, etc! Rather than it being a lived-in reality, it has to be jarringly drawn attention to, and I’m just so glad they didn’t do that with Joe and Nicky. And for them to have met in the crusades and fallen in love??! Come on. That’s just rude. Rude to me, personally.

Anyway, this was a rather long-winded and feelsy way of saying that these characters are constructed, acted, and written organically in such a way that you hate to even THINK of them being separated, and it’s not because they can’t function without each other, but because they are two halves of a whole. We also see that the characters themselves can’t stand being forced apart: Joe’s freakout in the truck scene when Nicky briefly won’t wake up, Nicky making sure to tell Joe that he’s glad he’s awake in the lab, the whole post-Keane fight scene that I talked about above, the way Nicky fights ferociously to get to Joe when Merrick’s stabbing him, etc. For that to be given to the queer couple, where the strength of their love and devotion is reinforced as one of the emotional goals of the story, and for that queer couple to be written in the way that Joe and Nicky are, both individually and as a unit, is just so very rare.

Because yes, there’s plenty of drama and angst and pain in their lives, but there’s none at all in their relationship, and that’s what fans keep telling TV writers the whole time: they WANT to see the couple confront things as a unit, rather than being kept on tenterhooks the whole time and forced to go through manufactured or artificial drama. It would feel especially wrong for Joe and Nicky, who have known and loved each other for 900 years. The fact that their respective actors also put so much care and love into them is very obvious, and makes me feel even luckier that they’re played by people who clearly get them and honor them and know what they’re doing.

Basically: of course Joe and Nicky have been with each other the whole time, and of course we’re all drowning in feelings over it, and I feel very blessed that this ship exists, and I very much need the sequel ASAP. Thanks.

#the old guard meta #joe x nicky #immortal husbands #long post #roseoswiins #ask

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i emerge from the abyss to tell you about the dream i had about 2 old 2 guard

so i think this was supposed to be like a trailer? honestly it was very unclear in the way that dreams are- actually. i think it started out as the intro to the movie and then shifted into a trailer?? whatever dreams are weird

started off strong with a flashback from decades ago (i think it was like, 70 years ago?) of nicky in either a hospital or a school, a young child in his arms and some other kids around him (dream me was THRILLED at this and had to pause the movie/trailer to lie face down on the floor with glee. i remember that Very specifically) and then it shifted into a trailer for the movie and things got. weird. (also my memory gets fuzzy about specifics) it was like, introducing these… alternate versions of the characters?? but the only one i (regretfully) remember is “nicolo tuo 2” (that was like. the name that showed up in text. i don’t know where the ‘tuo’ came from. my subconscious brain tried to create an italian word or something but i’m pretty sure tuo is an italian word that means like… you/yours? i could be wrong i just woke up and i’m not gonna look it up bc i’m on mobile and i fear losing the contents of this ask if i try to switch tabs) so anyways. jumping to what is definitely the worst part of this dream. nicolo tuo 2 was played by chris pratt.

i’m just giving that a moment to sink in. to feel it like dream me had to feel it. (the “it” is disgust)

(i’m pretty sure i can blame this nightmare on the snl sketch my parents were watching with chris pratt in it last night) - quite frankly i’m not even sure the other alternate versions of characters had different actors?? which i think might honestly be worse.

now crim, you might ask me “2ta, what happened to the nicky from the beginning of the dream? was he played by luca marinelli? is he still in this dream movie/trailer?” - yes. but god at what cost.

somehow. fucking somehow, it was implied that our nicky and joe (the real ones) were not together. and instead, if i remember correctly, there was a dramatic shot of nicky (the real one) kissing some woman, i believe in the rain? (the only thing i can think to blame this on, is the fact that i watched ricordi last year. and like if i’m remembering correctly the nicky in this scene in my dream had long hair kinda like i think luca had in ricordi) - everything other than that feels kind of irrelevant but there was like fight scenes thrown in there and i think like?? completely new immortals too?

idk at some point the dream shifts again and it’s kinda like completely different but also somehow similar in that it’s just all these new immortals (most of which consisting of being various fictional characters from things that i’ve watched and enjoyed) auditioning to be in the old guard. not. auditioning to be in the movie. actually auditioning to be in the group of immortals that is the old guard. this was taking place in like this. backstage theater style building and there were three different rooms with different things that had to be done in the auditions. the first room was fighting, where like, the new immortals that were auditioning were fighting each other and like everyone was in this room including andy and i guess the rest of the old guard (minus quynh, who shows up later) the next room was weapons, and there was absolutely no one in that room. empty room, bunch of weapons. moving on. the next and final auditioning room was… dramatic speeches. and that’s the room that quynh is overseeing. she’s like. happy and fully recovered from the ocean. that was a detail to this. dream me got to like talk to her (i was sent to find her by andy, if i’m remembering correctly) and she was really nice. and that’s pretty much where the dream ended.

(the relief i felt when i woke up and knew it was a dream and that chris pratt wasn’t actually playing a version of nicky in the sequel)

so there’s a look into my subconscious i guess. fuckin weird. i couldn’t consciously make this shit up if i tried. - 2ta

oh yeah also at some point there was like a new immortal who could like detach her hands? yeah i don’t know why that was highlighted or held in my memory but it sure was - 2ta

this was an ADVENTURE

"nicky in either a hospital or a school, a young child in his arms and some other kids around him (dream me was THRILLED at this and had to pause the movie/trailer to lie face down"

just reading this gave me Serotonin

“nicolo tuo 2”

nicolo. . . . .. . .. .... . .U2. . .. .. . .. ..... ..

"nicolo tuo 2 was played by chris pratt."

PSYCHOLOGICAL DAMAGE. SNAKES R MANIFESTING IN MY HOME RIGHT NOW

"nicky and joe (the real ones) were not together. and instead, if i remember correctly, there was a dramatic shot of nicky (the real one) kissing some woman, i believe in the rain?"

THANKS THATS EVEN WORSE

"and that’s the room that quynh is overseeing. she’s like. happy and fully recovered from the ocean. that was a detail to this."

love that for her

asdfghjkl honestly even my dreams arent this weird, if i dreamed this i would be Losing My Mind for the next 36 hours minimum

#anonymous #2thoughts anon

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Luca Marinelli: "Without growing you get lost"

When director Pietro Marcello asked him to play Martin Eden in his film in competition at Venice, Luca Marinelli was moved. "Many things have changed in recent years, maybe me as well"

From written words to moving images: «When you make a film based on a book, the book, at a certain point, tends to overlap. You no longer know what the novel is and what the screenplay is. Today I remember the end of Jack London's Martin Eden: that poignant conclusion, with him in the cabin reading that poem and deciding about his life».

Luca Marinelli, star of Pietro Marcello's Martin Eden, in competition at the next Venice International Film Festival and in theatre from September 4th with 01 Distribution, brings together memories and emotions, and gives them a precise order: everything starts from there, from the novel by the American writer.

"What was the soul of the book, which in my opinion is above any kind of discourse, political, social and idealistic; that soul, I said, was respected. Because it’s embodied in the character of Martin Eden. And then when you translate a book into a film it happens that some things take another form: it's normal in an adaptation." In the case of this film, says Marinelli, it all started from Marcello's point of view, from his vision: "Which perhaps is not like what someone else can have or like mine, because it’s a vision that belongs to the director: it’s the vision of the artist Pietro Marcello. The first scripts were certainly different, they were longer, denser, full of references to the book. The very first, if I'm not mistaken, was nearly 300 pages long. And this is because we were dealing with a masterpiece, and we didn't want to leave out anything».

Could this film be different?

“No, this film is how it was supposed to be. But with a book like this you can do anything: a 12-hours play, a film, a short film. Martin Eden is one of the best books ever written. Cinema imposes different times and measures from written narration; the balance that Pietro and Maurizio Braucci, co-screenwriter, found and the work they did were excellent, in my opinion".

Let's start with when they proposed you the role of Martin Eden.

“I remember my tears as I was watching “Bella e perduta”; I remember my emotion, and I also remember that immediately after I finished watching it I told myself that it would be nice to work with this director. It was 2015. Three years later they call me, and they tell me that Pietro Marcello wanted to meet me. Imagine my happiness. Knowing, then, that this film would be born from Jack London's book moved me even more».

What convinced you to accept?

«Martin Eden is a human being of great sensitivity, great curiosity and great empathy; he has an enormous desire to discover, to see, to touch with his hand. However, he suffers countless disappointments. He climbs a mountain only to learn, once he reaches the top, that a sad camp resides there, and that the best thing was never to get there, to the goal, but perhaps the very start. The journey".

And was it difficult to make this journey?

“It's a question that I have asked myself too, and the answer I have given myself is both yes and no. No, because being next to Pietro, Maurizio, colleagues and all the people who collaborated on the film, I found the right push and the right support to get into the character. But the difficulties, of course, are always there. What I really wanted to understand was Martin Eden. I abandoned myself to the first sensation I had while reading the book and the screenplay».

What was that feeling?

"A gigantic emotion. This character speaks directly to each of us because everyone shares something with him. Each of us wants to do, to exist. To reach a goal. Only then we come up against obstacles that make us lose hope - in part or in whole».

But when did the spark go off?

“I've always been passionate about writers like London or Stevenson. Adventurers, capable of creating worlds, of giving life to characters with their eyes open to the society around them. Entering a life like that, a life where the sea is so present, a life made of traveling, of seeing, made of pure passion, intrigued me a lot. And then there was Naples".

Compared to Jack London's book, Pietro Marcello's film is a rewrite set in the Neapolitan capital.

“I had never lived all this time in Naples; and I had never known it so much. I have not yet been able to fully understand it; not completely. Naples is a place apart. I have come to love it. Naples is a whole people. Something fantastic. It’s a place with a huge identity. A very strong identity. Think of the language: it’s not a dialect, it’s a language. And then you meet people who make you realize how beautiful it is to be Neapolitan: how welcoming it is, how fascinating it is, how deep it is. Naples, for me, was a great discovery».

Is sensitivity a condemnation?

"I don’t know. On one hand, yes, it can make you suffer more. But I wouldn't see it as a sentence. Sensitivity allows you to see the world; it leads you to respect what is around you».

But it also brings loneliness with it.

«Martin Eden distances himself from everything and from himself: he can no longer be in contact with anything or anyone, he is disappointed».

In this film, the clash between the class of intellectuals and the so-called people also finds space.

"I think that the true intellectual, like Pasolini was, manages to put himself on the same level as the society, to look at it in the eye, to speak to the common man without being opinionated, just showing what is there: what is happening".

At one point, you find yourself sharing the scene with Carlo Cecchi, who plays Russ Brissenden.

«I was very excited because I found my teacher. And it was great to be with him there, on the set, more than six years after we had last acted together."

You said you got excited

“Because in the film he plays Martin Eden's mentor, and Carlo was a mentor to me too. It was a real gift”.

How many things have changed over the years?

"Many."

And you? Have you changed as an actor?

“I don't know, I swear. But maybe I was better before (laughs)».

What do you mean?

"I started with the theater, where there is no safety net, there is no" stop, let's do it again!" and there is no possibility to stop, start over, rethink. I miss that courage».

Is theater a torment or an obsession?

"It’s never a torment or an obsession. Sometimes at night, however, I dream of going on stage and not remembering anything anymore».

Perhaps it’s today's cinema that tends to be not very brave.

«In my opinion it’s experiencing a new period. And it’s not a coincidence that Marcello's Martin Eden arrives right now, in this moment. Surely we could give a voice to many more people. Even that, if you like, is a question of courage».

Martin Eden also speaks of talent and perseverance. What is more important, in your opinion?

“They go hand in hand. Talent is the first thing you see. It’s the primordial spark. But you can't just rely on that. You have to be curious, eat life, live it to the fullest, intensely and consciously. But to live it, one must also commit oneself: and one must be prepared».

You need to read.

«For me a book is always a victory. Because you have been elsewhere and have lived a story that is different from yours."

What kind of reader are you?

“I wouldn't call myself an avid reader: but the more I grow, the older I get, the older I get and the more I read. Because I am more and more aware of how beautiful it is».

Reading isn’t just a hobby.

"Thoreau says: "As if you could kill time without injuring eternity". It’s important not to waste time; but it’s important to do it without causing anguish or fear. You have to be there, stay there, live in the moment. But without exaggerating».

When you were younger - when you were a child - what were you like?

“I've always been surrounded by curious people. Even my friends, the ones I had as a child and the ones I still have now, are curious. We liked to move, to go around, to be together; we lived the street. We also enjoyed listening to music, reading comics and books, and watching movies."

And curiosity soon turned into fascination.

“Acting has always fascinated me. And only at a certain point did I manage to find the right courage to try. And I don't know why: I really don't know. In the Academy this phrase was always repeated: “play seriously”. And maybe was this that interested me; or not".

We talked about teachers. Who were they to you?

«People like Carlo Cecchi or Anna Marchesini. They were moments, very important meetings».

How did you come in contact with Marchesini?

"We studied with her for three months at the Academy, and it was wonderful because for the first time I wrote something of my own. Each of us, each of the students, had to write something about himself, starting from his identity card - this was the initial task. And it was, believe me, very difficult».

What impressed you about her?

"The energy, the dedication, the beauty. I remember the moments with her, the wonderful phrases she said. What has always fascinated me to see was the passion she put into it».

Other teachers?

"My grandfather. I always liked the job he did: he was a carpenter. In the academy they told us many times: "you have to be a craftsmen". And I was always thinking of him».

What, in the end, do you have left of Martin Eden?

«The sense of collectivity. Passion. The importance of looking around. To always look at others and at themselves. The adventure of life, and the wonder it represents. What deeply tears Martin Eden apart is betraying himself and being disappointed in his own dreams. We can fight against this only if we are faithful to ourselves, to our beliefs, to our places of origin. And then, you know, all the rest remains: remains all that world».

VANITY FAIR

Just wanted to translate this old interview for the non-italian’s fans ^^ (sorry for my English)

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