#lmk wuzhiqi

[spotsupstuff]

monkey design work for your viewing pleasure- and also finally an introduction for FT!Beng n Ba.. took long enough jaysus fuck its almost been a year

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[muffinsouffle]

Wuzhiqi Shengmu, goddess of the Huai river and Sun Wukong's long-lost older sister.

I wanted to make a character out of the chinese mythology. Then, I even made a backstory for her with the information that I gathered up.

I hope you liked this post and have a nice day 💖

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[journeytothewestresearch]

Yu the Great and Sun Wukong's Staff

This is my answer to the following reddit question:

Did the Ruyi Jingu Bang, as a tool used by Da Yu, exist before the novel?

Monkey's golden-hoop iron staff can be traced to the khakkhara and iron rod respectively used by his precursor in the 13th-century JTTW. The story doesn't mention anything about Yu the Great. The demi-god's connection to the staff is, as far as I know, unique to the standard 1592 edition of JTTW.

This association probably came about in a couple of ways. For example, there is a Chinese graphic similarity (and possible totemic connection) between Yu and a specific kind of monkey:

The generic Chinese primate names have identical pronunciations or spellings to those of the earliest Chinese emperors. For instance, the character 猱 (Nao) is considered as the ancestral name of the royal family of Shang dynasty (商朝 ca. 1600–1050 BCE) (Cao, 1997; Wang, 2001). This word is used to denote a primate species that is good at climbing. Similarly, the character 禺 (Yu) represents a long-tailed monkey. This word is the same as the character 禹 (Yu), a legendary emperor well known for his brilliance in regulating floodwater (Huang, 2011). This association between primates and the earliest emperors indicates a possible totemic status for primates (Niu, Ang, Xiao, et al., 2002, p. 91).

(The aforementioned Yu (禺) monkey was apparently well-known, for it is referenced several times in the Classic of Mountains and Seas (Shanhai jing, 山海經, c. 4th-century to 1st-century BCE), a popular Chinese bestiary, in order to indicate the shape and size of certain primate-like animals (Strassberg, 2002, pp. 83, 84, 91, 99, 104, 122, 123).)

Also, Yu is known for imprisoning Wuzhiqi (無支奇 / 巫支祇), a monkey flood demon, beneath a mountain in Tang and Song-era folklore. This likely influenced Sun Wukong's punishment under Five Elements Mountain.

Therefore, all of this probably led to the author-compiler of the 1592 JTTW associating Monkey's staff with Yu the Great and his efforts to end the world flood.

Sources:

Niu, K., Ang, A., Xiao, Z. et al. (2002). Is Yuan in China’s Three Gorges a Gibbon or a Langur? International Journal of Primatology, 43, 822–866. https://doi.org/10.1007/s10764-022-00302-1

Strassberg, R. (2002). A Chinese Bestiary: Strange Creatures from the Guideways Through Mountains and Seas. University of California Press.

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[wuzhiqi-enj0yer]

Finally made a design I liked for Sun Wukong’s sisters , Lishan Laomu (離山老母, Venerable Mother of Mount Li) and Wuzhiqi Shengmu (巫支祇聖母, Holy Mother Wuzhiqi) after reading this article by @journeytothewestresearch

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[dorothygale123]

Part 1

Sorry, Tumblr has a 10 image limit, so I had to split this into 2 posts. Back to the cute figures I don't need and will not buy like the responsible adult I am!

Bingfeng is kinda like if two pigs got smooshed together, booty first. Apparently two heads make it twice as stubborn (talk about boar headed, am I right?).

Next.

A floofy little kitty, so cute! Though more often it's compared to a fox or a ferret, it's 100% adorable. In fact, it's considered to be a great pet as just being with it can ease all worries (as real cat owners can affirm).

Next.

No, this is not the birb form of Erlang Shen, though it does have his third eye. Looking mostly like a normal owl except for the extra eye and sounding like a deer for some reason, this little guy was more likely to end up on your plate than as a pet. Apparently eating this cutie could cure certain illnesses, but the guilt you feel will be forever.

Next!

A multi-eared monkey? This seems familiar... but no, this is not Liu'er Mihou, the Six Eared Macaque from JttW, but an entirely different simian with extra hearing holes. This is Chang You, and I couldn't find much about him either. All I could get was that he lives on a mountain (also named Chang You, confusingly), sounded like a person singing, and was an omen of floods in the area, hence the water. He has some overlap with Wuzhiqi, another flood-associated primate, though they don't seem to be related. Perhaps in another sh*tpost....

Next!

Last but not least, Tao Tie! He's actually part of a set with Hundun that I'll talk about some other time that parallels the 4(5) Guardian Beasts called the 4 Fiends. This guy eats everything. The only thing that kept him from eating the whole world was accidentally eating itself!

Whew.

I feel better now, and I totally still don't need these figures at all. Nope, I don't need them one bit!

Seriously.

I don't.

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[the-monkey-ruler]

so i did a deep dive today for this thank you for the new headcanon

i’m thinking yuán as in 猿 - 犭 = 袁

ape - animal radical = long cloth

like how 猻 - 犭 = 孫 = 孙 (simplified)

猻 is from 猴猻 hóusūn which means monkey

monkey - animal radical = grandson

孙悟空 • sūn wùkōng • grandson awakened to nothingness

袁巫支祁 • yuán wūzhīqí • long cloth great shaman/witch/sorcerer/wizard to support/bear/sustain

if you look at old chinese paintings of gibbons, they look like they have black bodies and white heads

btw i high recommend an evaluation of robert van gulik’s the gibbon in china and its place in modern sinological discourse on the academia app. it’s free and ripe with information about how gibbons were viewed and depicted in ancient china. robert’s book is damn expensive tho. i envy anyone who has their hands on it.

here’s an excerpt that surprised me:

The third theme is suggested in the following: “The gibbon is better than the monkey , the former is clean, gentle and recluse, the latter is dirty, noisy, greedy and vulgar” (“Mei yuan su hou”美猿俗猴) (TGIC 58). RvG thought this idea was pragmatic. Ancient Chinese literati like Wu Yun (“Poem of the Black Gibbon”) (TGIC 54-56), Li Deyu (“Poem of the White Gibbon) (TGIC 56-57), and Liu Zongyuan 柳完元 (773–819)21 (“Essay on the Hateful Monkey-breed” or “Zeng wangsun wen” 憎王孙文) (TGIC 54-56). Each compared the quarrelsome and volatile monkey with the aloof gibbon (TGIC 56). The lament is evidently directed against the people at court who caused their patron’s downfall (TGIC 57). Wu Yün, Li Deyu and Liu Zongyuan contrasted the violent and vulgar monkey with the high-minded and well-behaved gibbon. So the monkey is described as greedy, cruel and undependable, and ugly in appearance” (TGIC 57).

oh and the novel calls wūzhīqí great sage water ape… they were totally born from water. water egg? water womb?

and since it’s semi-popular in lmk fandom to make six-eared macaque a wind monkey due to the macaque king, that would leave red-buttocked horse monkey a fire monkey. red is the color of fire and the horse’s element is fire. in buddhism there are 4 great elements: earth, water, fire, and air so it all weirdly fits.

Oh damn you did such an AMAZING deep dive in both the language and history!! I adore it!!

I am aware the theory that Macaque King is the Six Ears is a common theory and with that the tie in with being the Great Sage of Ventilation, not just in LMK.

It would be cool if the Spiritual Primates had a connection to the elements, even if it is not the five. I actually forget that Buddism had its own elements that are technical since I always counted akasa/space.

But perhaps if the idea that each primate is also birthed from inanimate objects perhaps something like

Stone - Wukong

Pearl - Wuzhiqi / Gibbon

Magma - Baboon

Tree Root - Macaque (since air is also connected to wood in Chinese lore)

If they were ever to use the Gibbon as either the same Wuzhiqi from the Yuan Xiyouji she would be an amazing addition, or perhaps they could have used the Sage leaning background as well. In either case, there's so much history when it comes to both primate lore that I really think there can be a lot done with these findings

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[muffinsouffle]

What is MKs and Wuzhiqi Shengmus relationship like ? Friends, aunt and nephew, siblings oooor something else ?

Their relationship in the beginning was very distant since Wuzhiqi isn't very social and MK, meeting someone who "probably" is one of the eldest yaoguai in this realm and historians didn't have many information about her, want to help her open up and befriend him and the monkie kid crew. But then she starts to be protective, like Monkey King to MK and his friends, but she's still learning to be interactive since it's her first time to see someone who's the same as her species (even the little monkeys), been locked under a mountain for mostly thousands of years without any social interaction and her family being no longer in this realm.

And I'm here to say in my perspective, if Monkey King and MK's relationship is kind of an uncle and nephew/brothers vibes to me, then Wuzhiqi would be his aunt/sister.

#ask #lego monkie kid #lmk sun wukong #lmk mk #wuzhiqi #Wuzhiqi Shengmu #ask me anything