You Need to Stop
This is a kinder, gentler version of my previous post.
Classic Rock Fandom: OH MY GOD HE'S SO FUCKING HOT
Other people: he's 70 years old no
Classic Rock Fandom: YOU DONT UNDERSTAND HE'S A FUCKING GOD
Other people: dude stop
Classic Rock Fandom: I WOULD DO ANYTHING TO GO BACK AND BE A GROUPIE FOR HIM BECAUSE FUCK
Other people: dude no thats not good
Classic Rock Fandom: I DON'T CAAAAAAAAAAARE
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I've seen this item floating around for a while now.
I’m going to gently explain the problems with this post, and I hope that people will actually bother to read what I say rather than simply attacking.
First of all, never purport to speak for an entire group, in this case, the "classic rock fandom." There are a lot of people in said "classic rock fandom" who do not identify with what is being said here.
For instance, I have been a fan of what has come to be termed "classic rock" since quite literally back in the late 1960's, and I would never speak of the musicians who created the wonderful songs that I love in such an objectifying manner.
If YOU, the O.P. have the expressed view, so be it. Attribute said viewpoint to yourself, not an entire group.
You can find someone outside your age range interesting. You can even find them attractive. In the days of my youth, I found Leonard Nimoy very attractive. He was old enough to be my father. I would never have dreamed of objectifying him. I respected him far too much to ever see him as a piece of meat.
As for being a groupie...I’m not quite sure the O.P. understand just what that means. Being a groupie is not exactly a healthy goal. Being in someone’s life for no other purpose than to service them sexually starts to leave a person feeling pretty damn hollow. You aren’t special, you’re one of many. How is that something to aspire to?
Before we get started accusing me of “slut shaming” (a term which I hate because I don’t believe anyone should be called a slut), I will state that I am not saying that groupies are bad people. I simply think that a girl or woman can do better for herself. Aspire to become a musician yourself. Aspire to become a band manager, a sound engineer, a promoter, a roadie, a radio DJ. You’ll meet musicians aplenty, and you’ll also have a career you can be proud of.
I’m over 50, so if I were to get involved with a member of one of the “classic rock bands,” nobody would bat an eye. Some of them (i.e. Nikki Sixx, Tommy Lee, Vince Neil) are in my general age range. Some of them (i.e. Mick Jagger, Keith Richards) are old enough to be my father.
Although my involvement with these men would not cause any sort of stir, that is beside the point. I have enough respect for them that I would never look at them as mere objects. They are human, and they are vulnerable.
I am well aware of the kind of deterioration that can happen to a person as they age. I acquired my perspective from having worked with the aging population, from watching my own relatives age and die, and from the things that are happening to my own body.
Thus, I do not find this sort of objectification expressed by the O.P. either flattering or harmless. This mindset doesn't view its targets as human. This mindset reduces people to things to be ogled.
I feel like a piece of me is torn away every time one of the musicians that I’ve “known” all my life becomes ill and dies.
A few examples.
B.B. King, who was a blues musician, but any rock fan worth their salt knows that the blues is the backbone of rock–the amazing B.B. King died from complications of Alzheimer’s.
Ronnie James Dio, who I thought would pretty much outlive everyone, died of stomach cancer.
My dear David Bowie–and no, I’m not objectifying him, I always thought of him as a friend I very much wanted to meet–died from cancer.
Lemmy Kilmister–wonderful, tough as nails, amazing Lemmy with his powerful voice is gone from this world. I have a tattoo honoring Lemmy on my left calf. No, it isn’t because I wanted to “be a groupie” for him. It’s because his music meant something to me, and because the more I learned about him, the more I liked him as a person.
Malcolm Young isn’t physically dead, but he’s gone from this world. What I’m going to say comes not from a place of hate but from a place of love. I wish he’d died before the god damn fucking dementia had a chance to destroy him. He is not going to recover, there is no reversing that shit. His brother, the person who he was closest to in this world, has said that Malcolm “isn’t in there at all anymore,” and I know exactly what the hell he’s talking about, and it fucking sucks, and there isn’t a god damn thing anyone can do to change it.
The original post doesn't indicate that the poster cares one iota about the music or the people who wrote it. It appears that she’s mooning over pictures of cute boys who are no longer “cute boys”. They haven’t been “cute boys” for a long time.
“Classic Rock “ musicians are real people.
Real, and often fragile.
More and more of them are getting sick and dying.
That fucking sucks.
Dear O.P., in the future, please speak for yourself. You do not speak for the entirety of the “classic rock fandom.”
You speak for a minority faction of teenage girls who have, in reality, not done much living; who may not realize that posts such as this are tremendously disrespectful.
I have been part of the “classic rock fandom” for longer than the O.P. has been alive.
The O.P. does not speak for me.
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Im Not Allowed To Use My Computer But Here I am
Get ready for a ton of grammar errors im sorry
1.) What’s better, having high expectations or having low expectations?
low expectations, if you don't ever want to be hurt
2.) Would you rather go without junk food for a year or go without TV for a year?
i’d go without tv for a year since I never watch tv besides netflix
3.) Describe your perfect man/woman.
not in the mood
4.) Thoughts on school dress codes?
eh doesnt bother me
5.)Any strange phobias?
deep water (still), seeing people during summer because im a mess, abandonment
6.) At what job do you see Donald Trump best fit?
president?? oh but people are gonna hate me if I say that haha fucking hate me more
7.) Who was your first crush?
this one boy I dont think I ever even talked to before, honestly what the actual fuck
8.) Who was your first best friend?
she knows who she is. I dont consider her a best friend but she is my closest friend ever. No its not my cat. Ive known her for 10 years
9.)What is one weird thing about you?
I hate myself but that isnt weird, idk
10.) Top 5 TV shows you like to watch?
The walking dead and The 100.. thats just it haha
11.) What are your favorite boys names?
oh like friends or actual names. Im going to do just names because im going to stop exposing myself and stop being so honest. actually I have no favorite boy names haha
12.) What are your favorite girls names?
Brooklyn haha I haven't finished that stupid wattpad story yet
13.) Do you have any tattoos? If so, what are they?
no
14.) Do you plan on getting (more) tattoos? If so, what do you want to get as of the moment?
i would want to get tattoos if they didnt hurt when applied.
15.) Do you have any piercings? Do you plan on getting more?
no
16.) Do you like hugging people?
depends on who. but now, no
17.) Think of ANY person on earth right now. Who did you think of?
a friend who im going to see on wednesday
18.) Do you have an iPhone?
yeah I dont use it anymore
19.) What is the worst thing that could happen in your life right now?
hmm maybe if some guy didnt go to my school next year but that isn't happening
20.) Do you watch anime?
no ive watched like 2 animes years ago.
21.) What brings true happiness?
getting a grip and letting everything go. Im free of a lot of pain ive been going through for a few months and its the first time ive been truly happy with myself even though I want to fucking- nevermind hahahaha
22.) What is the most expensive thing you’ve ever paid for?
I feel like I should know this, but i have no idea
23.) If you could have any job in the world and get paid millions of dollars a year for it, what would you be and why?
idk
24.) Do you want children? If so, how many?
no
25.) Name and describe someone who you feel most comfortable around.
honestly no one, including myself, my trust isnt something everyone has anymore
26.)If you could invent a holiday, what would it be?
lexadeservedbetter
27.)Would you rather have summer weather or winter weather all year round?
winter weather, gotta be cold like my heart
28.) If you could make an alien race, describe what they would look like.
they’d look like all the people I hate so I can murder them
29.) What was the first thing you learned to cook?
i cant cook, I kinda can but it ends up with my mom yelling at me
30.) Describe your sense of humor.
Im a joke. people laugh at me because of how fucking stupid I am. I get used to it.
31.) What is the key to happiness?
don't worry about anyone else until you've worked yourself out.
32.) How many phone numbers do you have committed to memory? Whose numbers are they?
my mom’s and emergency services :)
33.) Name three songs that make you want to dance.
Come Over- Clean Bandit, Wasted Youth- Fletcher, and Caught Up- Sarah Close
34.) What job did you want to have as a child?
i wanted to be a mom, dont ask me how I thought that was a fucking job besides what the fuck was I even thinking a mom? what. the. fuckkkkk
35.) Do you have any talents or skills?
I can get really angry :)
36.) What was the worst punishment you’ve ever had?
I was grounded for like 2 months you can ask me how if you want btw
37.) Did you ever do anything weird as a child?
yes there were many things
38.) What is your dream car?
ooohh I never thought about that probably a pegassi zentorno (doesn't exist in real life look it up)
39.) Describe something that made you laugh this week.
Ive over come stuff that I can finnally look back and realize how stupid I was.
40.) Did you have a dream last night? If so, describe it.
i dreamt a lot last week and its so irrelevant to me nowwww
41.) Do you ever have repetitive dreams? Describe it/them.
repetitive like always that one person in them, yeah
42.) Describe the worst/ scariest dream you’ve ever had.
I had a really nice dream and I woke up and I was sad hahaha story of my life
43.) Describe the best dream you’ve ever had.
^^
44.) If God himself gave you a choice of either having unlimited money for the rest of your life or finding your one true love starting tomorrow, which one would you choose (keep in mind, you are still able to make a ton of money if you choose love, and you are still able to meet your soul mate if you choose money)?
trick question god doesn't exist :) but probably unlimited money because love is fucking useless and retarded
45.) If you could do anything (and I mean ANYTHING) right now without consequences, what would you do and why?
run away and see a friend I haven't seen all summer
46.) Do you have any recipes that you know off the top of your head? What is it/ what are they?
no
47.) Do you have your license? If so, do you have a car?
no
48.) Have you ever had a near death experience?
yes im not going to describe it
49.) Do you personally know anyone that has been to prison?
yep
50.) Have you ever been in a physical fight?
yep
51.) When you get out of the shower, do you towel dry, blow dry, or air dry your hair?
air dry unless I have to go somewhere i will usually blow dry.
52.) When you go to the movies, what snacks and drinks do you take with you?
just a ton of candy hahahaha
53.) Do you like going to the beach? If so, do you like to stay dry or go in the water? If not, why?
no
54.) Do you untie your shoes when you take them off?
no
55.) If you could have a superpower ASIDE from being invisible or being able to fly, what would you have?
oh my fucking god that's what I was going to write. how bout shape shifting or something
56.) If you were able to live for however long you wanted to (i’m talking thousands of years without aging), when would you choose to die?
when I got bored, I cant say lonely because I already am
57.) What do you think happens after you die?
youre body stops working and people put you in a hole in the ground
58.) Do you believe in aliens?
sure
59.) Do you believe in ghosts?
50/50
60.) Do you believe in spiritual things like ouija boards, tarot cards, and crystals? Do you believe they are portals for evil entities to enter the mortal world?
haha no but ouija boards are fun to trick people with haha *Meghan*
61.) If you could make one mythical being real, who/what would you make?
my will to live
62.) Do you get tan, or do you burn?
burn
63.) Describe your shower routine.
too long
64.) Do you enjoy school? Why or why not?
no because the people there suck and its much to stressful
65.) In your opinion, what is the worst way to die?
probably falling.
666.) Do you get carsick, sea sick, or airplane sickness?
none, ive never been on an airplane so idk
67.) What’s one memory that you wish you could live again and again?
..
68.) What were some of your stuffed animal’s names from when you were a kid?
hattie my stuffed chicken haha
69.)Do you have any pets?
69 cats :)
70.) Describe your daily wardrobe.
dark
71.) Describe what your daily wardrobe would be if you were rich.
probably the same
72.) Create a character right now. Give them a name, age, and character description.
are you fucking with me im writing out a new character for some private stuff as I work on this survey.
73.)What was the last thing you bought?
a couple books
74.) Have you ever bought a CD? What band was it for?
the last cd I bought was hfk :)
75.) Describe your perfect ice cream sundae.
cookie dough and im gooood
76.) If you could make ANYTHING happen right now with no cost, trouble, or obstacles, what would you do?
cant say but anything could happen by ellie goulding is annoying and I love it
77.) What are some of your favorite physical activities to do?
running but I havent run in a long time and im out of shape
78.) What were some of your favorite shows as a child?
dont remember
79.) Describe how you would survive the zombie apocalypse.
id make a group and Id lead it, id also make sure chandler riggs and alycia debnam-carey would be there because I love them and theyve both been in zombie shows. yesssss
80.)What are some things you shouldn’t say at work?
when does the boss retire
81.) If you were told that if you killed someone, you would save 100 people, would you do it?
if one the 100 people were clarke griffin, yes.
82.) How’s the weather right now?
its dark
83.) What is the background on your cell phone right now?
its lexa with a ton of thug life stuff added onto her haha
84.)Is it better to work at a job that you love or a job that pays well?
job that pays well
85.) What do you have within arms reach of your bed?
my alarm clock
86.) Have you ever been fired from a job? If so, why?
no
87.) Have you ever won a trophy, prize, or medal? If so, for what?
two stupid school medals and thats it
88.) Do you have any posters, pictures, or art hanging on your walls in your room? If so, what are they?
video game map posters, shitty drawing i havent taken down and comic and movie posters
89.) Are you afraid of the dark? If so, why?
I used to be haha I think I still am.
90.)What is something that you’ve never done but would like to try?
been a good friend to anyone
91.) If you could choose three famous people or characters to be friends with, who would you choose and why?
just friends? thats hard. probably Stevie Boebi, Alexis G. Zall and Ally Hills. I would say Shannon Beveridge but I have like this huge crush on her alright
92.) Do you smile at strangers when you pass by them on the street?
no because I hate people
93.) Do you have a favorite TV commercial? If so, what is it?
life alert
94.) Do you like your handwriting?
no it looks like a little kids handwriting
95.) Cable TV or Netflix?
netflix
96.) What are your favorite smells?
everything at bath and bodyworks please
97.) Do you consider yourself physically strong?
I wish dood
98.) Describe a time where you said something really rude or mean, whether intentional or not.
I told some people thing that weren't true about them just because I was really mad. #dickhead
99.) Do you ask strangers to pet their dogs?
no
100.)What is your most embarrassing moment?
my lifespan
101.) Has anyone really close to you ever died? If so, who was it and how did you handle it?
my cat maverick, my grandma and lexa
102.) Describe your plan of action if you were home alone and you heard someone break into your house.
I gotta knife drawer and i’d love to use it
103.) If you were to be born again, would you want to be born male or female?
male, im not saying i want to be a guy but id like to experience things differently
104.) What shampoo do you use?
idk
105.) Guess the meaning of this word: ulotrichous.
something horrible, or myself
106.) Do you let messages (phone, email, text, social media, etc…) build up, or do you have to look at them right away?
no one ever texts me im always the one to start a convo and that sucks
107.) Where is the nearest McDonalds to your house?
probably like 5 miles away
108.) If you had $1 billion and you had to spend it in exactly one week, what would you spend it on?
id buy a house and a ton of cars even tho I cant drive yet
109.) What is the best thing you’ve ever eaten?
pizza
110.) If you could go on a trip around the world with up to three people, who would you bring (they can be people you know personally or famous people).
ellie goulding, chandler riggs and alycia debnam-carey
111.) What expletive/ explicit phrase do you say most often?
frick frack fuck
112.) What is your personal definition of success?
finishing something the correct way
113.) How was your day today?
ive been doing yardwork and I volenteered at fieldhaven
114.) What is the closest Big City you live by?
sacramento
115.) Have you ever been in a car accident?
yes but they were never serious
116.) Do you hide anything from your parents?
all the time like hmm idk my sexuality
117.) If you could possess one talent, what would you be able to do?
make myself invisible :)
118.) Ugly and smart or beautiful and stupid?
depends on the person
119.) What is the worst thing you’ve ever seen in real life?
myself
120.) Use only 3 words to describe how you want your future to go.
i hate myself
121.) QUICK! give me a few things a brick could be useful for
you can throw them at people
122.) If you could make a dream society, describe it in great detail where it would be, who would be in it, and what rules there would be?
the lost youth is a band of teens who pull children off the streets and always get into fights with the other gang, the redemption. there will be blood.
123.) If you could make any animal miniature, what would you make and why?
cats
124.) What are your favorite candle scents?
I dont really have and candles so idk
125.) If you HAD to have one plastic surgery, what would you get and why?
my nose
126.) Do you prefer to hang out with the same sex or the opposite sex?
depends on who but right now no one
127.) If you could make a charity, what would the profits go towards? How would you raise money for it?
myself because I am poor
128.) Describe the body you wish you had.
I wish I was taller
129.) If you were a famous director, what would your next movie be about? Describe the plot, characters, and possible title.
the lost youth
130.) If only women were to rule the world, how different would the world be by 2050?
im not being sexist but it wouldn't be all that great but maybe politics could get better I have no idea
131.) What is your favorite alcoholic drink?
chocolate milk :) yes
132.) Do you have a problematic friend?
im the problematic friend
133.) Are you more spontaneous or more of a planner?
depends on the situation
134.) If you could change your full name, what would your name be?
not saying
135.) What is one song that describes your life?
hard times- paramore
136.) What is one show you’ve been meaning to watch but can never find the time for?
the rest of the 100 why the fuck are so many people dying I needed a break after lexa died and now all the nightbloods and lincoln are dead. duh fuck
137.) Do you find it easy to drop toxic people from your life that you’ve known for a long time?
Id have to ask people because people talk behind my back telling them im toxic. if you were me its understandable and im totally alright with it now
138.) Do you like children? Why or why not?
no children fucking suck
139.) What is your zodiac sign?
Pisces rising, Sagittarius sun, and and Capricorn moon
140.) Do you like to dance? Do you dance often? In front of other people?
yes but i cant haha
141.) Name some of your favorite colors.
blue and black and sometimes orange and purple
142.) Have you ever shoplifted? If so, what was it?
no
143.) If you could speak three additional languages, what would they be?
danish, french, and japanese
144.) Have you ever been in legal trouble?
no
145.) Have you ever had surgery?
no
146.) If you could change 2 things about yourself, what would you change and why?
my sexuality and my face haha
147.) What do you want done with your body after you die?
i dont care
148.) What three physical features do people compliment you most on? What do they say about them?
usually my hair because im ugly
149.) If you could have your own business, what would you do?
own a large company, I dont know
150.) What current friend do you have that you’ve known the longest?
im going on vacation with her for a week in Oregon that’ll be funnn
ok so I could totally tag you olivia but I just made you do that other really long one so if you're reading this you can if you want haha
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The Cheese Grates It: Please Stop
This is a kinder, gentler version of my previous post.
Classic Rock Fandom: OH MY GOD HE'S SO FUCKING HOT
Other people: he's 70 years old no
Classic Rock Fandom: YOU DONT UNDERSTAND HE'S A FUCKING GOD
Other people: dude stop
Classic Rock Fandom: I WOULD DO ANYTHING TO GO BACK AND BE A GROUPIE FOR HIM BECAUSE FUCK
Other people: dude no thats not good
Classic Rock Fandom: I DON'T CAAAAAAAAAAARE
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I've seen this item floating around for a while now.
I’m going to gently explain the problems with this post, and I hope that people will actually bother to read what I say rather than simply attacking.
First of all, never purport to speak for an entire group, in this case, the "classic rock fandom." There are a lot of people in said "classic rock fandom" who do not identify with what is being said here.
For instance, I have been a fan of what has come to be termed "classic rock" since quite literally back in the late 1960's, and I would never speak of the musicians who created the wonderful songs that I love in such an objectifying manner.
If YOU, the O.P. have the expressed view, so be it. Attribute said viewpoint to yourself, not an entire group.
You can find someone outside your age range interesting. You can even find them attractive. In the days of my youth, I found Leonard Nimoy very attractive. He was old enough to be my father. I would never have dreamed of objectifying him. I respected him far too much to ever see him as a piece of meat.
As for being a groupie...I’m not quite sure the O.P. understand just what that means. Being a groupie is not exactly a healthy goal. Being in someone’s life for no other purpose than to service them sexually starts to leave a person feeling pretty damn hollow. You aren’t special, you’re one of many. How is that something to aspire to?
Before we get started accusing me of “slut shaming” (a term which I hate because I don’t believe anyone should be called a slut), I will state that I am not saying that groupies are bad people. I simply think that a girl or woman can do better for herself. Aspire to become a musician yourself. Aspire to become a band manager, a sound engineer, a promoter, a roadie, a radio DJ. You’ll meet musicians aplenty, and you’ll also have a career you can be proud of.
I’m over 50, so if I were to get involved with a member of one of the “classic rock bands,” nobody would bat an eye. Some of them (i.e. Nikki Sixx, Tommy Lee, Vince Neil) are in my general age range. Some of them (i.e. Mick Jagger, Keith Richards) are old enough to be my father.
Although my involvement with these men would not cause any sort of stir, that is beside the point. I have enough respect for them that I would never look at them as mere objects. They are human, and they are vulnerable.
I am well aware of the kind of deterioration that can happen to a person as they age. I acquired my perspective from having worked with the aging population, from watching my own relatives age and die, and from the things that are happening to my own body.
Thus, I do not find this sort of objectification expressed by the O.P. either flattering or harmless. This mindset doesn't view its targets as human. This mindset reduces people to things to be ogled.
I feel like a piece of me is torn away every time one of the musicians that I’ve “known” all my life becomes ill and dies.
A few examples.
B.B. King, who was a blues musician, but any rock fan worth their salt knows that the blues is the backbone of rock–the amazing B.B. King died from complications of Alzheimer’s.
Ronnie James Dio, who I thought would pretty much outlive everyone, died of stomach cancer.
My dear David Bowie–and no, I’m not objectifying him, I always thought of him as a friend I very much wanted to meet–died from cancer.
Lemmy Kilmister–wonderful, tough as nails, amazing Lemmy with his powerful voice is gone from this world. I have a tattoo honoring Lemmy on my left calf. No, it isn’t because I wanted to “be a groupie” for him. It’s because his music meant something to me, and because the more I learned about him, the more I liked him as a person.
Malcolm Young isn’t physically dead, but he’s gone from this world. What I’m going to say comes not from a place of hate but from a place of love. I wish he’d died before the god damn fucking dementia had a chance to destroy him. He is not going to recover, there is no reversing that shit. His brother, the person who he was closest to in this world, has said that Malcolm “isn’t in there at all anymore,” and I know exactly what the hell he’s talking about, and it fucking sucks, and there isn’t a god damn thing anyone can do to change it.
The original post doesn't indicate that the poster cares one iota about the music or the people who wrote it. It appears that she’s mooning over pictures of cute boys who are no longer “cute boys”. They haven’t been “cute boys” for a long time.
“Classic Rock “ musicians are real people.
Real, and often fragile.
More and more of them are getting sick and dying.
That fucking sucks.
Dear O.P., in the future, please speak for yourself. You do not speak for the entirety of the “classic rock fandom.”
You speak for a minority faction of teenage girls who have, in reality, not done much living; who may not realize that posts such as this are tremendously disrespectful.
I have been part of the “classic rock fandom” for longer than the O.P. has been alive.
The O.P. does not speak for me.
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