#izzy hands discourse

[izzy-positivity]

Despite the discourse I feel like this is the one thing we can agree with. Peace and love on planet earth

#izzy hands #izzy discourse #izzy hands discourse #jim jimenez #oluwande boodhari #tealoranges #jimolu #ofmd #ofmd season 2 #ofmd s2 #ofmd s2 spoilers #ofmd season 2 spoilers

[tizzyizzy]

"We're supposed to be sympathizing with Ed in the toe autocannibalism scene, not Izzy."

Hey, maybe consider that your inability to feel sympathy for a character that has mostly been a slapstick fail henchman being mutilated and tortured says more about you than the intention of the creators.

#izzy hands #izzy hands discourse #ed apologism

[just-have-hope]

I wasn't even an Izzy enjoyer at first, not really. I thought he was a cool antagonist and Con did a good job playing him, that was about it.

Then Izzy antis tore the fandom into pieces and made it one of the most unsafe, uncomfortable and racist communities I've been part of and I became one out of spite. I'll never forgive you for ruining what was supposed to be a show about love and redemption.

#izzy hands #ofmd #our flag means death #ofmd fandom #izzy hands discourse

[nightcolorz]

I hope it does get cancelled. Izzy Hands stans don't deserve a second season.

?!?!? You want a culturally revolutionary show that has changed the lives of tons of queer people made by a cast and crew of talented passionate creators (who are currently in the process of making the second season and would be devastated to have that stripped from them) to be cancelled because you dislike a portion of the fandom? Grow up seriously, this is the most chronically online take I’ve ever seen. Also I thought I made it clear in my hot takes post that I find Izzy discourse absolutely insufferable, I’m not the person you should’ve sent this ask to. Everyone who felt seen by Our Flag Means Death deserves a second season. It’s the one thing that’s giving so many of us hope and joy in such a bleak time, it would be cruel to say someone doesn’t deserve that for such a stupid and inconsequential reason

I really hope you’re joking, and I thought that I implied this already but I’ll say it again so that everybody hears me; DO NOT BRING IZZY DISCOURSE TO MY BLOG. I engage in fandom because I love having a space where I can analyze and discuss my favorite TV shows with people who love them just as much as I do, I don’t engage in fandom so that I can argue with people over pointless shit on the internet. So please keep me out of that. This can go for any other ofmd discourse as well

#our flag means death #ofmd #izzy hands #izzy hands discourse

[sparkythesheep]

I don’t understand the people that keep replying to those “hey it’s fucked up to harass people for liking Izzy” posts with complaints about Izzy as a character. Like it’s nearly fucking pathological, they see the word “Izzy” and must criticize him/his fans. The conversation is not about that, it is not about a fictional character. The conversation is about the real fucking people who are being harassed!

#izzy hands discourse

[cananpoilot]

Btw isn’t Ed the abuser? Izzy was loyal to Ed till the end + was supportive of him retiring. He only wanted Blackbeard back bc they are pirates. They would all fucking die if he didn’t get his shit together. Ed is the one who lied to Izzy and changed up the plans continuously. Ed is the one who basically fucking manipulated him and left every responsibility to him instead of helping him out. Ed is the one who cut off his fucking TOE. I adore Stede x Ed but don’t let Ed’s usual demeanor fool you because he has two sides and it’s portrayed throughout the entire show.

meep i see what you’re saying - i think the inherent violence of piracy and like the norms of the show make me squick about using the labels of abuser or abusive? i think ed and izzy and stede all do shitty things cuz they’re shitty pirate guys and it’s fun to watch teehee

i think there’s a tendency to like … make ed’s character very clean and perfect bc we like sanitized queer rep? and with stede too? and i think that’s sad bc they’re all so like flawed and silly and trying really hard but also PIRATES!! maiming!! burn the ship cuz i’m a little bitchy gay!!!

idk its a weird line to be chilling on with like violence and silly and piracy and trying to be better and i think that’s why i really like the show and have difficulties being like. “online” about it? i feel like there’s commentary in the show about queer rep that comes from some online spaces … but also i don’t know teehee - i think the strength of the show is its queerness and ultimately where people feel disappointed that it is not nicer

#LAST ONE I SWEAR #sorry to tag him again #izzy hands #izzy hands discourse #ofmd discourse #ofmd

[pickle92]

deliberately avoided tumblr for days after the finale and the vibes are still rancid, bye again ig

#ofmd s2 #izzy hands discourse

[poppetfandom]

regarding the latest 💿🐎:

it's wrong to assume people's sexualities or gender identities irl

in most shows, it is safer to assume a character is cishet in order to prevent being queerbaited, even though it's always ok to headcanon a character as queer

but our flag means dead is a QUEER rom-com

it's safe to assume a character is queer if that's what is hinted in the show or interviews. and to think that being cishet is the norm is just... sad :/

#izzy hands discourse #our flag means death discourse #discourse #ofmd discourse #like? people in your life -who you think are obviously cishet- could be queer? #being in the closet is not bad and there are people who relate to izzy's experience of forcing masculinity on himself and others #while not realizing that he himself is actually queer #is this directly stated on the show? no. is it ok to asume that a character on a QUEER rom-com is queer? hell yeah

[apollodrome]

laughing so hard about that anon.... the funniest part is that they give huge Izzy energy! I can picture Izzy writing the same angry non sense about Stede

Izzy Hands, tears streaming down his angry little face, penning a diary entry like "STEDE FOCKIN BONNET IS A FOCKIN BAD PIRATE, HE'S REPRESSED AND HE SHOULD STAY AWAY FROM THE OCEAN"

#apollo answers #ofmd #izzy hands #izzy hands discourse #which apparently is a thing loooool

[sir-libearian]

-_- yeah, nuance in media is important.

But commenting death threats on a random teenagers crack fanfiction for not properly considering the racial nuances of the source material while writing their silly fun story is NOT HELPFUL. Just found that the last fic in a series I've been really enjoying starts with paragraphs of notes apologizing. Nothing in the story justified that. What the fuck are y'all doing. I feel so bad for this kid.

Yes, Izzy hands is a horrible bad man. Yes, there is racial nuance in his relationship with Blackbeard. We can have a discussion of that nuance. No, i do not want to see writers or artists who redeem Izzy attacked. He's an interesting character, a character people feel lots of different ways about, and that's fucking fine.

But like. Stop holding fanworks to insane standards. People deserve to write light hearted comedy about ofmd, which is itself a comedy. I'm so mad and sad for this person. What, exactly, is so hard about don't like don't read.

#vent #rant #vauge #fandom drama #commenting #fandom wank #discourse #izzy hands discourse #I'm going to get some absolutely wildbtakes from this I know #Will probably regret posting it #but yall #what the actual fuck #omfd discourse

[tizzyizzy]

I’ll probably make a long, rambling post about it later, but the idea that we aren’t supposed to sympathize with Izzy is ridiculous.

We absolutely are supposed to sympathize with Izzy, and I know this because the camera keeps focusing on his face during emotional moments. We wouldn’t have shots of Izzy’s eyes filling with tears after Ed shoves his hand away or Izzy frowning and contemplating after Ed goes to get drunk after messing up his date prediction if we weren’t supposed to be invested in his emotions.

Pictured: a flat villain character that is meant to inspire only hate, apparently.

#izzy hands #ofmd #our flag means death #izzy hands discourse

[ourflagmeansgayrights]

actually can we stop talking about “deserve” when it comes to characters dying in fiction. not everything is a fable with a moral lesson to be learned. romeo and juliet didn’t “deserve” to die. bambi’s mom didn’t “deserve” to die. izzy dying in the finale doesn’t mean ofmd is saying that certain types of queer people “deserve” to die. fictional death can serve more narrative purposes than just punishment for the character doing the dying.

#ofmd #our flag means death #ofmd season 2 #ofmd s2 #ofmd 2 #ofmd s2 spoilers #izzy hands #dizzy izzy #israel hands #the izcourse #txt #mine #og #s2e08 #the singular toe i will dip into the post finale discourse #saw screenshots from twitter that were essentially saying “i relate to izzy so ofmd is saying that i deserve to die” #like actually the ofmd writers don’t know you and weren’t saying anything about you. u can be sad abt izzy dying but cmon man. come on

[lavenderprose]

The thing about OFMD is that not a single character is genre aware. Stede thinks he's in fucking Bridgerton on a Boat; Ed thinks he's in a soap opera; Izzy thinks he's in the fucking Bible and he's Judas. None of them know they're in a slapstick comedy. That's why the stakes are all over the place and why they all take themselves so seriously while doing the most batshit insane stuff and then get angry at each other about it. Izzy's sitting over here going, "I am your most devoted follower. I am the only person who loves you enough to betray you." Ed's response is, "Yes, it's me...thought I died?...well think again... " and Stede is standing between them like, "Ours shall be a spring wedding!"

#OFMD #Edward Teach #Stede Bonnet #Izzy Hands #Can't decide if I'm serious about this or not tbh. #This is a direct response to the Ed/Izzy discourse that Tumblr keeps showing me

[izzyhandsy]

me when i wanted to make him worse but not THAT much worse :(

#bro u were supposed to be the normal fun level of toxic why’d u have to make it weird #his face at the end here still makes me SICK btw thanks for asking #izzy hands #our flag means death #ofmd #ofmd 2 #ofmd 2 spoilers #ofmd spoilers #edizzy #this is both izzy about ed and me about izzy #actually. #also pls no discourse let’s be cool guys

[incorrectquoteswwdits]

It fits for all sides of the fandom!

#ofmd season 2 #ofmd s2 spoilers #ofmd season 2 spoilers #OFMD #I’m sorry I guess I’m just a multi fandom blog until WWDITS comes back #Izzy hands #OFMD meme #meme #Don’t start any discourse it’s just a fun meme

[cananpoilot]

Can someone pls explain to me why people think Izzy hands is a racist? Did I miss something? I’m Māori + Carribean and I literally see nothing racist about his actions in the entire show. Is this just white fans overreacting to shit or an actual issue?

i’ve seen many takes in many different ways - bipoc voices are 1000% the only ones we should be listening to !

#izzy hands discourse #ofmd discourse #meep #tagging so if you have his name blocked it’s still blocked for you!! i’m sorry izzy tags #izzy hands