#izzi needs treats

[the-uncanny-dag]

Be for real. Stop it

#cringe. there is no other word for it. this makes me cringe. it's embarrassing #tumblr emporium #tumblr advertising #izzi needs treats #marketing

[arsenicflame]

izzy getting adopted by them is EVERYTHING to me. fuck you youre part of our found family now, whether you like it or not. we have claimed you.

bonus: the way jim defends him here. theyre So mad:

#i didn't include it but the way they slide immediately into talking about how the revenge was GOOD #its like theyre implying. izzy was a part of that good for them #idk idk. feeling my izzy hands should not have to change to be loved agenda in this chillis tonight #it is very clear here that izzy is still izzy. he hasn't fundamentally changed. hes still a dick. hes still himself. #but. his actions are reframed. hes looking out for the crew #hes a dick. but he protects us. hes a dick but he teaches us what we need to know. hes a dick but that doesn't mean we don't love him #screaming crying rolling on the floor #i need him to be loved so bad!!!! i need them to stick up for him!!!! i need izzy to be treated Right!!!!!!! #nyxtalks #ofmd #ofmd s2 spoilers #jim jimenez #izzy hands #israel hands

[something-about-sunflowers]

OFMD fandom:

Stop minimizing the severity of harm and manipulation that happens to people in cults by comparing a small fandom subgroup (literally, there are fewer than you're imagining) to cults. Stop acting like people disagreeing with YOU means they're incapable of seeing another point of view. Stop acting like people disagreeing with you is somehow policing you. Stop. . . just. Stop.

For the love of all that is good and joyful in this world just. If you don't want to see Izzy fans or the Canyon then just. Stop. Leave them the fuck alone. Get out of those tags. Stop commenting on their posts. Stop sending them rude shit (or ANY shit) in their ask boxes. Stop making up hypothetical Izzy fans/Canyonites to get mad at. Go get mad at your boss or your government officials or something actually productive instead.

I do genuinely wonder if the more normal people in the fandom see any of this and like. Question this behavior because. Like. Jesus fucking christ.

#the dork is being a dork #izzy hands #the izcourse #ofmd #our flag means death #ofmd fandom critical #our flag means death fandom critical #not to mention like #fucking hell #if you actually thought the canyon was a cult and you're still treating the people in it like you do? #do you like #just #not care about people who are victims of cults? or like? #cause if you really GENUINELY believed it was a cult and you're out here mocking and joking about it? #harassing the people in it? #you're not actually like. helping anyone. #that shit is how cults RECRUIT and KEEP recruits #'look at how the outside world treats people like us you're safe here' #so like. either you actually do believe it's a cult and you're being fucking VILE human beings to vulnerable people who need help #or you know it's not and you're being fucking vile human beings to vulnerable people by using their experiences as some dumb fandom 'gotcha

[rhysspeanutbuttercup]

are we all just going to gloss over the fact that nathan talked about the cut scene with lucius going feral with opium poisoning?? did I hear him right???

#no because what WAS that #I NEED TO SEE THIS SCENE NOW #narrative narrative not funny narrative narrative #let my boy go feral #as a treat #ofmd #our flag means death #con o'neill #izzy hands #nathan foad #lucius spriggs #mcm london #kristian nairn #mcm #mcm23 #ofmd s2

[cononeillbreastingboobily]

thinking thoughts

#blackhands #edward teach #blackbeard #izzy hands #our flag means death #ofmd #they got me at the end of my rope #like #they've been gay married for the past 20 years #they want each other dead #they can't live without each other #they treat each other like shit #they created Blackbeard TOGETHER #it's been the two of them against the world for god knows how long #they're deathly jealous of each other #they need to go to therapy #they could use a third in their relationship #they can't stand anyone else as much as LOOKING at each other #they gave each other nicknames that only they are using. until. yeaj #anyways #SIGH

[justavibevibing]

if someone doesn't properly fuck Izzy by the end of this season I'll have to take matters into my own hands

#HE DESERVES IT #he went through so much #i just need him to he treated with love and passion and cared for #I'm also very attracted to con o'neil but thats irrelevant #ofmd #our flag means death #izzy hands #rambling max

[gutz-radio]

Anytime I see a post about how Izzy hands deserved what happened to him or how it was totally justified for Ed to be a horrible person to him I get so damn angry. I get so angry and I need to just speak my mind at how angry it makes me.

To me, Ed in season two has shown abusive behaviours. Plain and simple. He has shown a pattern to physically assaulting Izzy. One toe is a single instance, but two more is a pattern. He tells Izzy if he doesn't do what he wants he is easily replaceable. And it isn't just abuse to Izzy. It's the whole crew. He's horrible to all of them. They're all scared of him. The scene where Ed is talking about the vibe on the ship shows me no one at all is comfortable around him.

I love Ed as a character don't get me wrong. I relate to him in parts, mostly how he can't handle his feelings and how messy it is and his self hatred. And also the abuse he faced. I love Ed. But to just close your eyes and slap hands over your ears and go lalalalala at all the shit he's done but then put all the blame on Izzy angers me. Yes, I'm not gonna deny Izzy fucked up. He is toxic as hell to Ed as well, and I never justify the stuff he did because it was bad. But never, ever, does that justify being abused. The only person responsible for how Ed has treated everyone is Ed himself. Ed isn't a fucking toddler who doesn't comprehend what he's doing. He's a grown adult man. Izzy cannot force him to do shit. At the end of the day, the only person who has a choice to what to do is Ed himself. Yes, Izzy was horrible to Ed when he was the most vulnerable. He said vile stuff, and kicked him down when he was weak. And that is shitty and the blame for Izzy's own actions is on Izzy. But the same goes for Ed. Ed chose to hurt the crew, and he chose to hurt Izzy. This was all his choice. No one forced him to do anything. Outside factors all contribute to it, yes, and it all worsened his mental state. But it is still his fault. And as far as I'm concerned, Ed owes the crew and izzy a MASSIVE fucking apology and a hell of a lot of change. Izzy realised what he said to Ed was wrong. He knows he fucked up. He tells Stede as much. But Ed is also at fault and I'm pissed how people keep just acting like he had no say in it whatsoever and he was purely at the mercy of his fucking subordinate.

Personally? I hate how serious discourse is in this fandom and this is a fictional show and I don't treat fictional characters like real people. But the victim blaming, and the blatant hypocrisy of how people treat Izzy compared to Ed angers me. Either they all suck and we should hate them both, or we stop giving a damn and stop blaming characters and harassing people over a fucking FICTIONAL CHARACTER.

#Also ngl Ed's behaviour to Izzy reminds me of my own abuser how he treated me #But I'm not getting to that #This is just a rant #izzy hands #tw abuse #tw abuse mention #Like I'm just so angry because I bet these people would say I deserved the abuse I got because I wasn't a picture perfect uwu victim #And I hate how this fandom treats it #At the end of the day it's a bloody fictional romcom and I didn't come here to see idiots victim blaming a guy who was mutilated #delete later #Ignore my ramblings I just need to get it off my chest before I implode #I know some dumbass is gonna take this wrong and act like I hate ed or some nonsense when I fucking don't

[candied-cae]

I am super fucking pissed about Wee John in this last episode.

Why. The. Fuck. Was. He. Not. Included. AT. ALL. During. The. Escape??????????

Legitimately, where the fuck was he? I was fuming for a lot of that because he's my favorite character, so I was looking for him. While everyone was stripping the English of their uniforms and getting dressed up (at least partially) in disguise, he is the only character not included.

They make a point about Fang not getting a proper shirt, which already pissed me off enough, that he had to wear what was essentially prison stripes while everyone else was in uniform, but Wee John wasn't even there. He wasn't in the raid. He wasn't in the run down the beach.

He just wasn't even fucking there. And if it was something Kristian decided he didn't want to worry about hurting himself over, particularly looking out for his back and knees, I understand not asking him to run over and over again for reshoots. But the fact that he didn't even get dressed with them... and that's the second time he's been excluded from a plan apparently due to his size (remember that he didn't get to participate when The Revenge dressed up as rich boys for Nigel Badminton)...

It is legitimately breaking my heart. One of the things I love about this show is the love is gives to its fat characters and actors. Fang gets to have his tummy out 24/7 and he's treated like a snack by Lucius, Wee John got to have an incredible dress, Oluwande is the crew's most eligible bachelor, and we even got a delightful fat character in 2x07 who spent his whole time dressed in only some leather halters and pants...

But the fact that Wee John was singled out and left behind, and the fact that Fang was singled out and othered at that very same time... It fucking hurts. As a fat person who has loved getting to see so much love for fat bodies... it stung to see that the comedy couldn't even suspend its reality long enough to say "there are a few fat people in the Royal English Navy, so Wee John and Fang get to be dressed up too."

#Cae Has Lots of Feelings About Our Flag Means Death #Have I already cried about this? Yes. I have. #It seriously hurts so much to see the character I most saw myself in separated from the entire rest of the cast over his size again #It breaks my heart so much. #I was literally asking my tv 'But where's Wee John?' all the way from the montage of them suiting up - all the way through Izzy's death. #Because he just didn't exist onscreen again until the LuPete marriage. I almost thought they were writing him out of the show there. #I hope to GOD that Kristian was the one to decide he didn't want to deal with the labor of that scene #Because I cannot imagine how he could've felt if he had to sit there alone and listen to people tell him 'Wee John just isn't in this part. #'Just for logical reasons though. Just cuz there's no way there'd be a uniform jacket big enough for him.' #Because I would've been gutted. #Wee John is big. Kristian Nairn is big. But he is not some unreasonable size. #And it feels cruel that he keeps getting treated like it. #Sending all my love to Kristian right now. I hope he doesn't need any of it. But he has it all the same. #Our Flag Means Death #OFMD #Our Flag Means Death Season 2 Spoilers #Our Flag Means Death Spoilers #OFMD Spoilers #OFMDS2 #OFMD s2 spoilers #Wee John #Wee John Feeney #OFMD Fang #OFMD Meta #OFMD Critical

[thetardigrape]

What's Wrong with Izzy Hands?

There's so much Discourse™️ lately about Izzy and damn, battle lines have really been drawn. No matter which side of which line you stand on, though, one thing is clear: there's something wrong with Izzy.

This is clear because he spends the entirety of S1 furious and struggling, when no one else does. Everyone else has moments of struggle, sure, but they also have moments of other things, like love or friendship or success. Not Izzy. Izzy never wins.

The Doylist reason, I suspect, is that Izzy is Ed's antagonist and they need him to run counter to Ed at all times in order to move the story forward. But to do that, he needs a Watsonian reason to be failing all the damn time. And I think I've maybe figured it out?

He boils people down to archetypes, then treats them that way regardless of what they do.

Ed is not a man who can both love a good maim and fancy a fine fabric, he's Blackbeard, a legend and a monster. Stede is not a starry-eyed rich man who is catching on in How To Be A Pirate 101 surprisingly quickly, he's a namby-pamby who has seduced Blackbeard and ruined him. Lucius is not a scribe hired for his artistic and calligraphic skills who is also so charming he's gotten it on with half the crew, he's a work-averse slut who can't do a single job right. Ivan and Fang aren't emotionally rich crew members who support Izzy and each other, they're henchmen who ask too many questions.

Izzy never once treats anyone else as a whole person. He never sees nuance or subtlety, never accepts that a person can contain contradictions or hold conflicting desires, never believes that there's anything more than what there appears to be on the surface. So when the people around him do recognize those subtleties, when they treat each other as whole people in ways that don't agree with Izzy's stereotypes of them, he becomes outraged. Which is like, all the time, because all of those people are people and none of them will ever consistently be a single archetype.

And that, I think, is where his redemption will lie, if it happens. I think it will have to start with himself, because I think he sees himself the same way—first mate to Blackbeard and god as far as the crew are concerned. He thinks he has no purpose or desire outside of that box, even though we the audience (and many people on the ship) can see it very clearly. Once he sees that there's more to himself than a single archetype, he'll be forced to recognize that there's more to everyone else as well. Then and only then will he be able to start building actual relationships with people.

#ofmd #our flag means death #ofmd meta #listen i am NOT interested in getting into The Discourse #jfc has it not been talked to death already #also don't misunderstand me i love izzy #but i love him BECAUSE he's so fucked up #not because i think he's NOT fucked up #he's a fucking mess and he treats people very badly #that makes him such a meaty character #so much to work with #so much space for growth #angry purse dog izzy needs to be properly socialized to humans

[bougiebutchbitch]

the fun thing about my particular immune deficiency is that you get very familiar with the sensation of puking/crapping yourself to the point where it hurts to breathe for weeks after

anyhoo, this is why I cling to any character with canonical tummy issues lmao

#:grabs onto izzy hands with both hands and gives him my immune problems: #anyway getting back-to-back stomach bugs because your blood is missing some important stuff #is REALLY FUN GUYS #WOULD 100% RECOMMEND #I LOVE THAT FOR ME #brb gonna give Ed my EDS too for funsies #actually Izzy can have EDS as well for a treat + all the comorbidities #Stede gets to be the ablebodied caretaker because holy fuck I need one of those right now #sigh

[zo1nkss]

CJ literally called Ed a slur multiple times on-screen to his face, so if you're really going to get upset at BIPOC for feeling vindicated that the white man who's still alive is actually learning to treat Ed like a person, but you don't say shit to ppl who are casual CJ enjoyers about his racism and how he has not unlearned a single lick of it because he died instead, you can actually fuck all the way off.

#Void Rambles #I'm not over here waxing poetic about the rat man #insulting him is literally how I enjoy his character #I want him to get up to so many situations #can y'all literally shut up about it #unlearning racism doesn't always mean saying the words “racist” or “dehumanizing” about the things that have been said or done #it also looks like “I wasn't treating you like a whole person here is what I'm doing to change that” #and being racist in the passed does not negate the importance of denouncing said racism in the present #no matter what that unlearning process looks like it still needs to start SOMEWHERE #fandom crit #izzy hands #I'm literally getting so tired of this #I'm not allowed to have my own fucking feelings about Izzy bc some asshole has to come tell me anonymously #that I'm somehow perpetuating some mysterious form of racism just by not agreeing with them #fuck off with that thought and tone police bullshit #1312 kill the cop in your head #maybe you'll get over how badly you want us to kill the positive or negative aspects of Izzy in ours

[blqckbeard]

izzy antis are always gonna nitpick everything izzy does because they need to be on a moral high ground so they can keep justifying their behavior towards izzy stans during the hiatus

#when i joined this fandom i was confused as to why people acted like izzy was so bad #because in reality he hasn't really done something That bad #like he legit gets treated like the devil #and it's because they NEED to be superior #they need to be correct and superior to izzy stans otherwise how are they gonna justify the way they treated other people during the hiatus? #they're going to keep picking on him and us because they've made up their mind and they're not smart enough to know they can change it #and because they don't want to deal with the fact that they might've been wrong #so yeah i'm expecting even more bullshit takes to come #i'm not even surprised anymore #the izcourse #ofmd s2 spoilers #our flag means death

[arsenicflame]

'there are more characters in this show other than Izzy' yeah like Izzy's boyfriend and Izzy's boyfriend and Izzy's boyfriend and Izzy's boyfriend and Izzy's boyfriend and Izzy's boyfriend and Iz

#[DISCLAIMER OF SILLINESS] #ive wrote too many serious toned posts lately i need to shitpost again #izzy deserves to have all the boyfriends :) as a treat :) #nyxtalks #ofmd #our flag means death #israel hands #izzy hands #i do feel like i give the impression i only care about izzy sometimes and like. thats not true but he DOES consume all my thoughts #its his world in my brain im just living here

[ladyluscinia]

Something I've been thinking about for at least a month now... The statement that "the show clearly doesn't expect the viewer to sympathize here" is grossly overused in the OFMD fandom, even moreso if followed by some version of declaring x character "only deserves violence or ridicule"

I'm not even just talking about Izzy. Practically every single non-Revenge crew character is a prospective target for this, often due to being the butt of a joke or a moment of slapstick violence at some point. There are a lot of meta takes and interpretations that seemingly hinge on this idea that the show is always punching upward at oppressors of various kinds, therefore anyone who gets punched - literally or figuratively - can inherently be written off as deserving it 100%. This particular flavor of moralizing is rather aggressively black and white, and while some fans might enjoy it, I'm not sure it actually exists in the fairly redemptive and growth focused framework of the show. Especially not as something so obvious you can just declare "well x is not meant to be sympathetic because this funny mean thing happened to them" without feeling the need to back that up any further

Like, yeah, I think there are definitely characters you aren't ever invited to sympathize with - Nigel Badminton and Geraldo come to mind - but also Lucius has the whole finger thing, the Swede experiencing a scurvy speedrun is a running gag, and Roach slamming into the side of the ship during "yardies" is shrugged off with a punchline. So maybe being the butt of a mean and potentially violent joke is not the defining factor here? Or inherently contradictory to the notion a character can be considered as a person and not just a narrative punching bag?

#our flag means death #like people don't spell out that this is what they are doing but it does seem to be the logical throughline of some meta collectives #and it just bugs me sometimes when 'well x is meant to be unsympathetic' is the whole argument. no support needed i guess? #and like part of it is going back to genre again (something that probably counts as one of my main ofmd fields of study by now) #in that in a comedy laughing at a bad thing happening to someone often ISN'T precluding them from sympathy #comedic butt monkeys and villains are constantly ridiculed and hurt AND treated as characters you are meant to care about #anyway i have a lot of thoughts on this but also i have practice exams to take so this is all you get for now #ofmd meta #genre #fuck it i'll tag #izzy hands ofmd #but this is really about a lot of characters #ladyluscinia

[prettybard]

god i fucking love ofmd so much but some of the shit the white fans have to say abt the show genuinely kinda fucking hurts sometimes

#im just gonna ramble here but #as a brown man seeing people depict ed's first reaction to heartbreak as unrestrained violence and anger #hurts so badly?? like did we watch the same show??? #ed was healing and processing his emotions in a healthy way #but he was manipulated in such a shitty way by izzy... and fuck do ppl really not get that izzy doesn't love ed?? #he worships the idea of power that comes with the title of blackbeard #he doesn't love or worship ed #he said so himself #he doesn't think of ed as a person #he thinks of ed as this thing that gives him power #sorry i just needed to talk abt the way white fans treat ed #it's not all of the white fans but a good fucking chunk #and it makes me so fucking uncomfortable sometimes #ofmd #our flag means death #edward teach

[izzy-b-hands]

On a random fic related side note, just saw I'm at nearly 80 fics written for our flag, and can only think to myself

'wow bud, you had like. over 100 for the Pacific probably even faster than this. You've really lost steam, huh?'

and like. Brain. could we just enjoy the number go up, even if number go up SLOWLY

#text post #i probably need to shower and try to sleep and not keep writing but like #my Emotions are very Much right now and they're waiting for me for when I try to sleep #but if I keep writing then i just randomly break into slightly confused tears and can keep going #aka god sorry izzy for any new our flag stuff i might write tonight bc he almost always gets to thru a new trauma #based on whatever im currently working thru or struggling with #him or stede god sorry to both of them i'll do my best to like. fuck push myself to write a cute fic #some of these are halloween leaning prompts like. I haven't written anyone taking the bonnet kids trick or treating yet #yes i know it's an almost entirely american thing and isn't realistic but like. how else am i putting these pirates #in a modern au with dorky current costumes like. jack alone is a beautiful font of opportunities with that #inflatable dinosaur suit? he has four including one handmade #tacky sex pun costumes? he has an entire plastic tub full of them #...brain really wants the number to keep go up i need to write PARDON ME