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popchoc · 5 months

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What are your top 3 Maya/Marina eps? I can’t choose but my favorite moments are definitely pre season 4. Because I’m currently rewatching and those seasons are far more balanced in terms of character and plot development. Plus the Gibson x Maya, hookup/breakup/cheat took a much needed friendship off the table. They were no Mark and Callie but I could see an eventual Arizona and Alex vibe maybe. I used to love the playfully antagonistic vibe they had before they started dating (also thought they had equal if not more chemistry than Carina and Maya sorry not sorry lol) but after the cheating their friendship (understandably) stalled and became Maya always asking for relationship advice or literal sperm 🫤 and it’s just. Boring. There’s a levity that’s missing from the show these days and as funny as Vic and Travis are I miss the general humour of the entire cast. Nowadays everyone’s regulated to their one specific friend and it’s like a workplace without boundaries instead of friends who happen to work together (which was the vibe in 1&2). Remember Vic-Dean-Jack or even Vic-Jack-Maya? Underrated trios!

Hi anon, I haven't rewatched any S19 (except for some moments) so forgive me for not remembering that well, especially when it comes to specific episodes. There are some scenes I recall very well, those that really stood out for whatever reason, but entire episodes... not that much.

The only one that comes to mind is the one after Andrew's death, which was excellent beginning to end. But with the others... I don't know. You see, the thing is, the more an episode leans to being "Marina centered", the more detached they feel from the others (unless they get Carina to the station, which 9/10 just feels forced to me - so the writers just can't do right (yes I'm very much aware that this is a me problem)). It might sound weird, but I really had prefered Carina in a "Bailey position" with less - but great - scenes (and all right, one or two real eps per season), and Maya still very much part of the team. Which, I guess, is what we got in s3. Yes, Carina only got to bring her lasagne, Maya only asked Carina on vacay at the end of a long day, Carina only got to comfort Maya when feeling like a truck... but those "only" moments all counted (so much!!) - while Maya also got to be part of a team and group of friends.

So yeah, call me the worst shipper ever, but I (too) do believe those were the better days... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Edit: I'm sorry, I'm only now seeing you also asked for Maya eps. I know there are a few of those over the years, mainly in the early seasons, but in a strange way it was marvelous to watch her reach her low as well (that hospital scene... pfff), yet to really be able to answer I'd have to watch the whole thing again... which I'm not gonna do! 😂

#ask #maya bishop #carina deluca #station 19

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eigwayne · 4 months

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I finished Back From the Brink last night but lost internet before I could finish writing a summary. Today I also finished The Golden Eyes. Today was stinky and I am le tired, so energy is limited, but I'll see what I can do for reviews.

I actually really enjoyed Back From the Brink. It was a little clunky or sloppily done in some spots, and I'm not sure how I feel about the acting level. I was impressed with Hou Minghao's performance in the beginning but later on there were some moments where it flagged. I hate the word 'microexpressions' but there were some of his that were good (again, at the beginning mostly. Makes me wonder if they filmed the beginning last but Zhou Ye was stronger at the end and clunky in the beginning so I don't know). It'll never happen but it made me want to see how he would handle Zhang Qiling. I rather liked Tianyao- he was dignified and determined and very hurt, but still innocent in a way- an elemental sort of personality. Like the 'pure of heart' thing was really heavyhanded (it was part of the plot, after all) but it fit. And several of the side characters were really fun so it was overall an interesting cast.

But this is Yan Hui's story. And she was actually likeable- kind but a bit mischievous without being annoying, self-oriented without being self-centered. The story didn't tell me she was smart and then show me the dumbest character ever filmed- she was actually rather clever. And she earned her power through the story, so it wasn't like, special princess wins the male lead's heart and all sorts of cosmic power by suffering prettily for a couple eps and being a moron needing rescue the rest of the time. She actively worked to train herself and help others and all that so you rooted for her to succeed.

I heard the book was very solid and the drama was considerably weaker in both plot and characterization (like, so much that book fans generally hated the drama), so when I have the mental energy, I intend to read that. For now, I really liked the drama and it ended up with a 4.188, which is the 4th highest score so far.

The Golden Eyes was a much longer show, 56 eps, made before both the episode cap and the moratorium on men wearing earrings on Chinese TV, so if you miss Lay's earring selections, this is the show for you. The ending was a cliffhanger and there probably won't be a second season so if you hate unfinished stories, this is NOT the show for you. The pace of the show was leisurely compared to current Chinese dramas, so you do get a few more arcs (including the first Kiev arc which I still think was unimportant and could have been cut completely without any issues) and a bit of time spent on the best friend's romance. I got a little annoyed by all the flashback clips but I got annoyed with those in most dramas so that might be par for the course.

This is very much a Bai Yicong drama, with all the hallmarks of the DMBJ adaptations he worked on, so if you liked the way Tomb of the Sea and Ultimate Note rotated ending songs and showed BTS footage and all that, you'll feel very comfortable here. This show feels like a "some elements from other tomb raiding shows we wanted to explore more + romance + mystical bullshit + extra anti-smuggling messages so the censorship board knows we're on the up-and-up" mashup. Less zombies, more magic, more busting bad guys.

So it was fun, familiar, a little cleaner content-wise than a straight-up tomb raiding show. It got a 3.438 on my scoring, with the 2-out-of-five goody-two-shoes cliffhanger ending causing the biggest deduction. If it weren't for that ending, it would have scored higher than The Lost Tomb 2.5. It's a better show in most ways, though.

#currently watching

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lizacstuff · 5 years

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What do you think about S2 of RNM? with the way s1 ended, I'm totally freaked out about how they're going to make S2 work. I'm afraid everyone will find out about the aliens and that it won't be good to watch anymore.

I’m psyched for season 2!

The ending was… intense, wasn’t it? LOL. To say the least. I’m still not sure I’m over it.

For season 2, my biggest concern is how long Max will be “dead.” It’s only a 13 episode season, so having him off the canvas for more than an episode or… maybe one and a half feels like too much to me. I get that we need a little time to see the impact on the characters, otherwise there was no sense to off him, but I really feel like we can get the reactions (primarily Liz, Isobel and Michael) and see their grief and how it motivates them in the premiere.

Of course, the show could do flashbacks with him, or dreams, or some sort of handprint mindscape thing until he’s resurrected, but that’s still not the same as having the character back and getting into the action. If they’d gotten 22 episodes it would be different, but they didn’t so I assume that the writers are taking that into consideration. (I get a pang every time I think about how much I wanted 22 eps)

As for everyone finding out about the aliens, I doubt it. Or I guess I should ask who do you mean by “everyone?” Do you mean all of the characters on the show, or everyone, meaning society at large, like everyone who lives in Roswell kind of thing? I don’t think the general public is going to find out anytime soon.

At this point, I think we’re looking at Maria finding out, possibly one of the parents, but I think Alex (and maybe Kyle) may step up and prove that it’s not just their dads who are good at covering things up if that becomes necessary. We know Jesse Mains has been neutralized (thanks Kyle!) so it will be interesting to see how that pans out. Anyone else interested to see Alex’s reaction to his frenemy putting his evil dad in a coma? I know I am!

I think we’ll see a Kyle who is very invested in protecting Rosa, so I’m hoping for some out-of-the box thinking from him to help explain her, you know, existence.

Turning to the love triangle, I know I’m in the minority, but I’m looking forward to all of it. Between the two, I lean more Malex, (plus theirs is the love-story being told) but I like both and am totally here for whatever angst-filled drama the writers have in store for the three of them in the short-term. As I’ve said before, I’m particularly interested in Maria and Alex and how they, as long-time friends, will deal with the situation against the backdrop of much bigger things happening around them like Aliens!Exist, Alive!Rosa, Dead!Max, Grieving!Liz, Grieving!Michael, Healed!Michael, Coma!Dad etc.

As for my favs, we’ll see what happens with Max and Liz. It’s an hour-long drama, so that means… lots of drama. Part of me hopes that the show takes a page from my other favs, Captain Swan, and allows the turmoil and angst to be driven by external factors and not derived from within their relationship. Meaning, they’re not pulled apart because of stupid, contrived relationship reasons, but their story comes from battling outside forces. Crossing fingers, since it would only make sense after they’ve established so clearly how in love they are. Plus there’s plenty to draw from… what with an alien bomb ready to be deployed, alien races hunting Max through the galaxy and the whole Jesus thing… oh and an him currently being dead.

I’m very excited for all of it… though I need to slow my role, because we have a long wait ahead of us.

#roswell new mexico #roswell nm #echo #rnm speculation #rnm s2 #asklizac #anonymous

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roominthecastle · 5 years

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I can't help but think you're being a bit too hard on Eleanor because of ship bias. I mean, why would you called her 'her worst self' and 'selfish' when she's always been one to throw stuff to get in heaven (even with the character development)? But suddenly she's being sappy and depending on someone who isn't Michael and the whole M/E fandom is at her throat. I'm as unconfortable as the next shipper with all the C/E scenes but is it really Eleanor and her characterization that's at fault?

Yes, of course I am biased (to a certain degree). When the show caters to my preferences, I’m more docile and much less likely to nitpick and complain, when it doesn’t and it drops the ball to boot, I get grumpy. So I’m your garden variety fan, basically. But I don’t believe I’m “at Eleanor’s throat”. Her and Chidi being together doesn’t make me uncomfortable bc it’s her and Chidi and not her and Michael (+ I often see things popping up in the C/E dynamic that can have potentially interesting implications for Michael’s development and for M/E, too. Generally speaking, the three of them make up a curious whole for me).

I know the chances of (2-sided) M/E happening are somewhere btw zero and never, so I’m not exactly eyeballing C/E as some kind of obstacle to my personal shipper nirvana, jumping at any chance to “punish” Eleanor for choosing the “wrong” partner. But I do feel uncomfortable with the way the C/E romance is written this season. “They are sidelining my no. 1 dynamic”, while frustrating, is not the reason for this, it’s not why I’m not crazy about Eleanor’s behavior and Chidi’s OOC-ness.

Eleanor + character development always resulted in stuff like her being emotional and vulnerable w/o getting aggressive and demanding, her accepting it when Chidi turned her down w/ dignity despite feeling heartbroken, and her being considerate of others to the point of volunteering to go to the Bad Place to save them. This is where she was a year ago and the year before that at the end of each season. This is not where she is now. I’m not saying being selfish and throwing stuff is not in her character make up or her problem-solving toolbox. Her overcoming these impulses, however, is the very point of her character development (made blindingly obvious last season when she lied about passing the Judge’s test and refused to go through the portal to TGP). What we have (currently! so it can change any time) in S3 is the opposite (see the in-your-face door to TGP that won’t open for her), it’s her completely giving in to these impulses to the point of seriously endangering everyone, meaning that she has, in fact, regressed. I suspect it is a point the show is trying to make but we’ll have to wait and see.

In “Janets”, all Janet asks is that they stay put until she and Michael deal w/ accounting. Eleanor works herself into a state over Chidi not opening up to her on command, putting Janet through hell and almost erasing her friends from existence while her own self is also disintegrating. Despite the serious consequences, this harmful behavior carries right over into the next ep where all Michael asks is that they lay low bc folks in TGP are so rule obsessed, they can send all of them right back to TBP. Eleanor immediately smashes stuff at the door to TGP bc it doesn’t open up for her when she demands it. It’s her bullying of Chidi from the previous ep all over again, only in a vase-meets-door form. Even Chidi has to be all about her now as he magically turns into a grossly idealized version of himself (see in S2 how she rejected a similar “fake Chidi”), spending the entire ep trying to prevent her from blowing up again while the rest of the team is cleaning up the mess in the mail room and Michael is away trying to fix the calculation issue. Despite the crazy-intense circumstances, everybody is trying to do something for somebody else except her - she is still hyper-focused on herself and it stands out to me bc this is a version of her I’ve never seen before and it’s def not the best one.

Again, it’s not because she is w/ Chidi but the issues become especially apparent within that dynamic since the second Michael showed her those memories, she just latched onto Chidi, expecting him to fill the void left by her screwed up upbringing that’s been freshly dredged up thanks to her not-dead mother. They made her lurch from “I’m incapable of love” to “I’m madly in love and nothing else matters”, hand-waving determinism while failing to provide any other reason why these 2 are suddenly together again. They are trying to play it as romantic/funny but it’s not romantic when someone’s whole identity has to be propped up by another person and it’s not funny how that other person has to repress his own identity/issues to be able to do this. It’s a suffocating, unsustainable interplay. Or if it’s meant to be interpreted as “love cures mental illness and erases every character flaw in 5 minutes, so you can finally be the proper romantic partner”, then it’s even worse. You don’t have to be a shipper of another ship or look too deep into this story to see these (imo) legitimate problems (but it helps, yes, since it’s natural to be more critical of sth you’re not emotionally invested in and gloss over stuff to preserve the fun potential when it’s your OTP or sth, I do give you that).

Eleanor having to coerce love and attention out of Chidi will never be cute, either, or proof that those feelings were there all along. People pushed some quotes from WJH into my face about how Chidi calms down bc he finally has what he always wanted - interesting choice of words, btw, given the pin Michael gave Eleanor - but 1) an actor’s opinion will not automatically replace my own (no, not even if it’s Ted’s or some other big fave’s) and 2) how exactly were we supposed to glean that Chidi wanted to be with her so much in this reboot? Was it when he went steady w/ another woman despite Eleanor being an option all along? was it when he refused to give private lessons to her bc he was just too busy? or was it when he - despite witnessing her meltdown - sent her packing bc they already had enough material for his study? For some reason the writers missed every opportunity to build this up properly and make this extremely syrupy display stick, but I’ve already said everything about that in another post.

This whole idea of “he felt this way all along, he just didn’t actually show it, so we can skip actual development” is a lazy, corner-cutting approach which reminds me of the worst kind of fanservice attempts I’ve had the misfortune of experiencing with several of my favorite shows recently. I have very low tolerance for that stuff now bc it never ends well. I did not expect to see this particular brand on this particular show, but here we are, I guess. Or if it’s a case of creative exhaustion/boredom where this billion times rebooted couple is concerned, then maybe it’s time to park them and give a not yet over-explored dynamic some attention instead to keep things fresh and fluid as opposed to stale and forced - again, not an unreasonable request, even if it comes from someone who is invested in another dynamic, given the lack of care that was apparently put into developing C/E this season.

I don’t like not liking things on this show (and it’s not Eleanor I don’t like, it’s the way they deconstructed her in order to write her back into a relationship as if she couldn’t exist w/o it), and I am sorry if I disappointed or offended bc it was not my intention. I hope they flip things or introduce a new angle that will make me re-evaluate. I am always open to that whenever new material arrives and I honestly hope they will make me eat my words soon. I will merrily absorb the suckerpuches. But for now, this is my opinion and “you just don’t like that she is not with your fave” - while a natural factor - is not the main reason why I made my comments.

#lewyn-martell #michael x eleanor #long post #musings

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sometimesrosy · 6 years

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Alright I need to ask cause I'm in the positive boat. If you had to bet which episode clarke and bellamy FINALLY share their first kiss in this season what would it be? lol

I think mid season will be the time when we’ll see a physical manifestation of their feelings for each other. This could be anything from a continuation of our hand holding metaphor (laced fingers?) to some version of a hug/non lip to lip kiss, to getting stuck in an enclosed space all up in each other’s business and clear sexual tension, to any version of kiss on the lips, to full on sex. I DON’T KNOW. There’s an argument to be made for any of it. And depending on your definition of kiss, the chance of a kiss happening goes up higher or lower. Anywhere from 25%-75% by midseason. Talk to me after I see the first 4 eps for more definite guess. Which one is the one Antonio Negret is doing? I tell you, Antonio Negret directing makes sex more likely. He did a fantastic job with Olicity. And what is that? 8?

I think as season B goes on, whatever happened physically in midseason between them, will add to the emotional stakes and drama and angst of the action heavy season B. If there isn’t a kiss midseason, I see it as nearly definite by the finale. 99% The absolute LEAST amount of Bellarke I see happening is lots of sexual and romantic tension for the whole season ending in a full canon confession in the verrry end, with something like “I won’t lose you again.” linked hands. raising hands to lips and kissing them. “together.” But I think it just as likely that they have a full on sex scene mid season. So those are my two extremes of bellarke canon. Full on sex then angst then together commitment at the end. Romantic pining, sexual longing, and angst for the whole season leading to a gentle confession and physical expression of love. Which way will they go? IDK. Most likely somewhere in the middle. Also I think they did the pining/gentle confession last season so I think they won’t do it again, which makes early sex then angst more likely.

Before listening to all this fandom drama, I was really positive about Bellarke happening in season 5. It’s remarkable how fears and anxieties can just rise up like a tide and sweep you away. But most of them don’t have a basis in reality, I think, and some of them actually take what I consider to be near confirmation that Bellarke is happening to mean that they are saying Bellarke will never happen and we are being baited. And I don’t really understand that kind of circular logic. But it’s shouted with such passion and carried up so widely by the fandom that is more focused on a kiss proving canon than on the story being carefully crafted, that it makes me hesitant to make my predictions. I even came across someone who implied my meta was bullshit and has been twitter ranting about how we’re being baited. It turns out that when someone challenges my meta, I don’t rant, I go deep and explain my evidence on my own time, so this is apparently what I’m going to do.

I think this is the season. Not for established Bellarke relationship, that’s next season, but for them finally addressing their feelings for each other as more than just platonic partners. They showed it last season, with plausible deniability not just for narrative sake (mutual pining) but also for fandom politics sake (too soon! be respectful.)

Wow. OKAY. So there’s my guess. If you want to know WHY I am predicting this, then you get to read after the jump. Because the thing is, I’m basing my prediction on narrative structure, romantic tropes, storytelling techniques, and ALSO what JR, Bob, Eliza, and reviewers have said about the new season. As well as the ep 1 spoilers (so don’t read on if you don’t want to know.) BTW. LONG because I have a lot.

Bear with me, I’m putting the new details together with my old speculation based on season 4 and development from all 4 seasons. This is to show you WHY I think what I do and that it’s not really about shipping for me, but about crafting a story.

I’m a writer, and when I write romance into a story, I need to make sure there is enough conflict and uncertainty to make it interesting. It is built into romantic plots. However, my romances happen within one book, not 5 seasons, and fair warning, because romance is not the point of my books, they are not the finale, climax or reward. They generally happen sometime in the middle and then we see an uncertainty, fear, angst and a narrative conflict that might separate the love, leading into the plot climax/conclusion. Because I write sci fi, not romance. The goal is a non romantic one, and the romance is about character development and motivation. So love is HOW they reach the goal, not the goal itself. Which, I think, is the way this show is treated. But, this is my interpretation, and you should know that going in, it comes from someone who is also writing science fiction this way. It’s a writer’s perspective. I am trying to figure out how JR is telling HIS story.

In SDCC JR declared that Bellarke was the central relationship and it has always, in some way, been about their relationship. Listen. This means he has ALWAYS been telling the story of Bellarke. I can confirm, as can the rest of the Bellarke meta community as we’ve been analyzing it the whole time. This is important. This means that not only are we looking at Bellarke in the current season, but looking at the WHOLE show and how it’s developed. Because he did it DELIBERATELY. HIs Bellarke story has taken all four, now five seasons. (huh. he admitted it. it was the plan. it’s not a bait. it’s not fanservice. it’s the STORY.)

So when I look at the WHOLE story, this is what it looks like to me.

Season1: Trust. Get her whatever she needs. I trust him.

Season 2: Devotion. He’d do anything for her, it just makes sense. Bellamy is the key.

Season 3: Commitment. Together (drink poison) I trust you. I believe you. Holding hands.

Season 4: Romantic Love: If I’m on that list you’re on that list. She centers you. You’ve got that backwards. She’ll see how special you are. Sacrifices humanity for him. I got you for that. 6 years of pining.

Season 5: ???? what could it be? we’ve had The 100 tell a love story by defining the elements of love, so what’s next? The next level I think is Physical Attraction.

In Conageddon, Bob and Eliza said that Bellarke had it rough. That they come back together immediately, trust is in their dna, that they are confused about who they are to each other, about their platonic relationship (if they are confused about the platonic nature of their relationship that means something isn’t platonic or it wouldn’t be confusing,) that it’s an intense relationship (upping the level of emotion,) that it’s turbulent, up and down, and first they love each other, then they hate each other, then they love each other then the verry end…we get something that is described variously as great, sweet, *silence with a smirk* and will make Bellarkers happy. All of that description sounds to me like a description of sexual tension, except for the ending which sounds to me like canon confession of love or commitment. Or showing them TOGETHER in the transcending romance kind of MARRIED way. Not dating. Committed. Soul mates. Beyond time and space kind of thing. (but possibly not physical at all.)

Some people take the B/E concerns to be proof that there is no Bellarke happening but I take it to mean that there is. Because I’m looking at character and relationship and narrative development over the seasons (as JR said that was the story.) And B/E was always a possibility to push the story from platonic to romantic by adding conflict, jealousy, a choice, and contrast. IT’S A NARRATIVE TOOL TO MAKE THE STORY HAPPEN. We get an article saying there is no love triangle and fandom takes that to mean there is no Bellarke. And the article itself was covered with photos of Bellarke. idk. that’s a funny takeaway. When to me, it was saying the B/E issue would be resolved early in the season.

The most relevant detail to timing of romantic development, however, is the issue of pacing. Which is a new revelation for us.

Episodes 1-4 happen within hours, apparently. The spoilers from the first episode must happen right before spacekru discovers The Eligius. Whatever happens in ep1 between BE will be brushed aside for the need to do something to GET BACK DOWN TO EARTH. And JR said that when Bellamy finds out that Clarke is alive EVERYTHING CHANGES. Now HOW exactly do you think it changes? What could the changes mean? Why is a way down to earth not more of a change for Bellamy/spacekru than finding out Clarke is alive? Because that’s pretty life changing, yeah? What’s the element that Clarke’s existence could change more than going home? Loyalties. Family. Love. ??? Their bond snaps back into place. Does it override other bonds? Which bonds are in question here in the first 2 eps? Who is unsure of her place in the family? I guess we’ll have to see, but do we or do we not have a question of B/E over B/C? Could it be POSSIBLE that one of the things that change when B finds out C is not dead is B/E? Hmmm? When B/C was what kept B/E from happening in the first place? Hmmm? Like. Is this not simple math? someone do the math. I know there’s an equation there. (why do I, miss mama don’t do math, keep putting math into my analysis?)

Anyway, back to the speed. If it’s really moving that fast, though, then there won’t be time for anyone to really PROCESS what Clarke being alive means. Bellamy won’t have time to understand it or make rational decisions about who comes first. Except we know he’s changed his MO, so maybe we’ll see him fighting his own head vs heart thing going on with no time to sort it out. INTERESTING. Clarke won’t have time to settle back in to the family or adjust to not being one of them. Echo won’t have time to make peace with Clarke’s possible usurpation of her place with the family. OR maybe it won’t be an issue at all. Clarke and Bellamy will just naturally slot back into place as partners, since there’s no time for thought… which would leave Echo feeling out of place. Well, we do know that Eliza and Bob did say trust was in their DNA, and they did say that Echo was struggling with her place in the family. So that seems likely.

What does this mean to romantic BELLARKE? It lowers the chance of them addressing their feelings head on. Because they have no time to process or talk. But it raises the chance of them DOING stuff without conscious thought, touching, non verbal communication. Hard to tell until we see them interact, but if you move things fast, and there’s no time to address things, and they are intense and confusing and there is “love and hate” then we’re going to see things boil over without being logical. The emotions that I see as repressed here are going to be their feelings for each other. Love and desire.

Sorry y’all. I know how many of you think it’s hopeless and have lost faith, but what I see is a really great CANON SUBPLOT of romance trying to break through the danger and action and adventure and survival and fast pace of The 100. It won’t be subjective. It won’t be all told in fades and music, it will be part of the story, and addressed directly. I can’t guess the details, but I can tell you the Bellarke story this season will be canon romance. (Please just remember that it is not a ROMANCE GENRE STORY so it will not be the majority of the plot, but buried within the scifi survival story.)

I’m apologizing for being pro canon bellarke. Can you believe this fandom? They ship a thing by ranting about how it’s not going to happen. I do believe they are not allowed on my ship at all. Go sink your own, you blorkes.

#the 100 meta #the 100 spoilers #the 100 s5 spoilers #spoilers #bellarke #believe in bellarke #bellarke development #bellarke speculation #romantic development

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westwingwolf · 3 years

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Yes, I agree they really rushed Hacy and made it all about them. They listen to certain fans and took away what made the show good to begin with. A great example of taking time to develop the relationship and not rush is Tim x Lucy on Rookie. The fans wanted it but writers took their time and develop them together and individuals. The Charmed writers just dropped the ball completely on all the characters. And look I'm not naïve, I never thought Haggie would happen( though someone should have

I wanted to put these all together before I answered. This is going to be long so I'll put it under the cut so others can scroll past.

I may joke about the fact that Tim & Lucy aren’t together yet, and I may be in the minority but I’m perfectly happy with the fact that they aren’t together yet. They’ve got a natural progression to get them at this moment. And I can even wait it out a little more to see it developed well. I’ve commented before that it seems like TV audiences in general don’t have the patience for the will they/won’t they like they used to. Now some shows in the past have milked the storyline for too long, but shows like Charmed rushed in without proper planning and it shows. I think it even annoyed Harry & Macy fans with how they didn’t know what they were doing and how much they’ve ruined both characters, especially Macy. She was a much stronger character when Galvin was her love interest. That storyline never overwhelmed her own individual storyline. Whereas Harry has become the same problem that Parker was for Maggie in season 1 in that her storyline was basically all about Parker and almost nothing about herself individually.

I knew Haggie would never happen either. It’s part of the reason I resisted hard core shipping it until midseason in season 1. Oddly enough, Haggie is the reason I resisted shipping Tim & Lucy. Both shows were on their first season, and I wasn’t sure if Tim & Lucy ever had a chance at being more than friends or mentor/mentee (and I wasn’t sure if I even wanted them to). I knew shipping Haggie would be putting effort into shipping a non canon ship that had no chance, and I didn’t want to put my heart through the heartache of shipping two non canon ships at once. Now it is almost 3 years later and Tim & Lucy are an almost certainty while I’m begging for scraps of scenes where Haggie is friends or are at least in the same scene.

But yes Sarah & Rupert have a natural chemistry that, no matter what the Harry & Macy fans think or the writers want us to believe, is better than Rupert & Madeleine’s. Theirs is not bad, but is not amazing or compelling enough to suffer through all the unnecessary reasons to purposely keep them apart. Or to make me believe Harry & Macy as a good couple. Rupert even has better chemistry with Melonie. And I think that is the reason there are so few scenes with Mel & Maggie. The writers had to limit Harry’s relationship with Mel & Maggie to make Harry’s relationship with Macy look different and therefore better. When if we’re all honest, the biggest bond Harry created with any of them in season 1 was with Mel. Then with Maggie, thanks in part to Tartarus which they should have explored more. And lastly Macy. Then suddenly in season 2 he has to spend more time with Macy. If he is ever with Mel & Maggie, it’s usually with both of them. Season 2 was all about separating Mel & Maggie from Harry & Macy most of the time. Which did a lot to mess with the original idea of this show being about 3 sisters because it was very rare for all three of them to work together for an entire episode. 2 episodes come to mind in season 2 when they all worked together for the majority of the episode, and it’s really difficult for me to remember a third episode. But back to my point, the writers couldn’t build Harry and Macy up in way that compare to how well the friendships Harry had with Mel & Maggie compared in season 1, so they had to tear those down and not show them as much. Now obviously, Mel is not an issue as a competitive love interest if fans notice better chemistry. But Maggie is. Don’t think it didn’t cross my mind that Harry & Maggie went to having the most hugs in season 1 to having zero in season 2. I know because I am the one who gifed them all. The only hug Maggie has in S2 is with Jimmy thinking he is Harry. And let me tell you, that scene where Jimmy is trying to kill Maggie, still more chemistry than anything Harry & Macy have had in 3 seasons. It’s safer for Harry & Mel to have scenes alone together than Harry & Maggie because Maggie & Harry’s chemistry is better than Harry & Macy’s. And I don’t even mean that in a romantic way, if people don’t want to see it that way. It’s better even in terms of friendship. But I think it could have gone romantic. Where I think Harry & Macy’s is best when it stuck to friendship. It reminds me of Nolan & Lucy who scenes got a lot better to watch when the show accepted that friends is all they should be. But the few scenes we did get of Maggie & Harry alone, namely the attic scene and the book nook scene felt so domestic and intimate that I found it easy to ignore the dialogue and create my own dialogue based on body language. The chemistry lends itself to that.

It also bugs me that I got so much shit for shipping Haggie because of age difference when we find out that Harry & Macy actually first met when Macy was probably Maggie’s current age. And we’re supposed to buy that as the beginning of Harry & Macy’s destined love story. Plus all they are doing now with Harry feeling too old for Macy and wanting to be mortal so he can grow old with her. So it was problem when I shipped Haggie, but now that it’s suddenly Harry & Macy it is seen as okay or a storyline for them. I see you, Charmed writers. I see you.

I had to think about which Darklighter Harry/Jimmy fics you were talking about because I only posted a few to my tumblr. I’ve had a bunch more I shared with a fellow Haggie fan. Even more I’ve probably thought of and forgotten by now. I’ll be honest, I don’t know how much fanfic I’m interested in writing for Charmed. The show is only barely keeping my interest to keep watching. I usually wait almost a week before I watch the latest ep. That is not typical TV watching behavior for me as I usually don’t wait more than a day if it’s a show I like. Combined that with the fact that there isn’t much interest in Charmed fanfic, even less so for Haggie, I just don’t see my interest in writing it returning anytime soon. Plus, I usually stick to writing in one fandom at a time and all my interest is in writing Tim & Lucy at the moment. Now, I do believe if there was any character who still thought Jimmy was redeemable, it was Maggie. Not by much, but she at least tried to give him a happy ending even it didn’t work out. So if I did see my interest coming back, I could still see writing a Maggie/Jimmy fic which ultimately becomes a Maggie/Harry fic. But about 98% of my fanfic ideas remain just ideas. For an idea to become a fanfic I have to write, I have to imagine a significant amount of dialogue first that refuses to leave my mind until I start writing. That’s true of any fandom I’m in.

The worst think the writers ever did was get Harry & Macy together. They should have kept Harry as just a whitelighter and friend for all the sisters. Let fans stick to fanfic if they wanted more. I probably would have liked fanfic more than anything by they could have given me if I’d they did write Haggie romantically. I think Charmed will forever be one of those shows I look back on and think: that could have been a really great show if they had just done everything differently.

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