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lmelodie · 2 years

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Ok SO!!! I just recently read through the entirety of the junior novelization of the Santa Clause 3 and yall. There's a handful of crazy stuff in here, and I see no one talking about it so I WILL. I didn't cover EVERY changed detail, but I think I did mention a lot of them lol.

I read the book so you dont have to!

So, some of the big changes between the Movie and the Novel:

The change probably everyone cares most about is that yes, Bernard is in it. But he basically shares character screentime with Curtis throughout the whole thing, very very minor role. Any scenes Curtis has during the movie, Bernard would also sometimes be there, and that's pretty much it.

But the biggest shift story wise in the book is that Jack uses Curtis’s jealously of Bernard (Head elf position) and Curtis JUST TAKES JACK STRAIGHT TO THE HALL OF SNOWGLOBES HIMSELF. Just lets the man inside and explains the whole escape hatch thing. I don't think it's ever explicitly said but I think from this point on he just has the snow globe now for the entire rest of the time while he goes around fucking shit up.

So that whole mess kinda shifts around some of the other events as a result. Jack and Lucy have a talk (So that he can distract her) way earlier then in the movie, after messing up just one machine.

AND LUCY RECOGNIZES HIM IN THE NOVEL. She says Jack Frost? and he says YES! THATS ME! She talked about how she knows him as the guy to give us the first good winter freeze, and then she starts bringing up Christmas in association, which immediately brings down his mood about the whole thing.

But because of the whole shifting of events here that also means that JACK NEVER FROZE LUCYS PARENTS IN THE BOOK. I don't even think he directly interacted with them at all.

And in the Book version when Scott gets reset to his Santa-less life, it's in the middle of a house party celebrating his new CEO job. And he gets all the supplementary information on his new life from a very confused very huge bodyguard/assistant, instead of the twink he talks to in the movie.

When it gets to Santa Jack in the north pole, hes still described as being very wrong and off-putting (even actually scaring some of the children) but it's implied that the Santa look IS ALL FAKE. The clothing is very deliberately described as a COSTUME, and it describes how THE ENTIRE BEARD IS COMPLELY FAKE. LITERALLY GLUED TO HIS FACE. Even more of fraud then before.

And it's revealed by Jack that after midnight that night, SCOTTS MEMORIES OF BEING SANTA WILL BE WIPED. HE’LL, JUST COMPLETLY FORGET ABOUT IT.

And there is no secret mission for the snow globe back either. Lucy plays no part here. Scott just sneaks into the hall of snow globes, yoinks Jacks snow globe and then messes up his show. But he instead baits Jack into saying the magic words playing it off as memory loss. What magic words?

Finally, because Lucy's parents were never frozen in the book, there was no magical hug taking place after everything happened. And it seems that the concept of being thawed/frozen and magical hugs was thrown completely out the window here. So instead of a magical hug, Jack instead gets banished to the south pole as punishment.

And now for some not so big details about the book that I find interesting:

It's mentioned when Jack is talking to Carol that HE CANODICALLY HAS A MOTHER??? IMPLYING THAT ALL THE LEGENDARY FIGURES HAVE PARENTS??? I'm glad that its almost practically cannon that Jack has mommy issues confirmed. I take it as canon casual Winter Frost mention @safyresky

Speaking of the Legends! They actually get a little more time in the meeting at the beginning and therefore just a little more personality which I LOVE. There's a line that's describing Father Time brewing Sandy some coffee for him to stay awake. AND I QUOTE, “extra caffeinated triple espresso extremely strong coffee.” FT is a peach.

They just have some good lines in this meeting scene that just wasn't in the movie.

Another really funny difference that I love is that in the book when fixing the sign JACK COMPLETLY FALLS OFF THE LADDER ALLTOGETHER. HE DOESNT KNOW HOW TO USE A HAMMER AND JUST FALLS OFF A ROOF HEIGHT LADDER. Icon

Charlie in the book, while being almost exactly the same, has a completely different girlfriend named Nikki. THAT SCOTT HAS NO IDEA ABOUT until she walks straight through the door while he’s visiting the family. And as a cover up Charlie told her that HIS DAD WORKS FOR THE CIA. AND SCOTT LOVES IT.

It should also be noted that while Bernard is in the book, Jack forgoes messing with him all together for his plan. A WISE decision.

Scott actually has a pretty cool break scene thrown in there where he needs to clear his head, so he goes off to the reindeer stables to more or less hide from the chaos. He sits down on the floor with a comet and just cuddles with the reindeer for a little bit while he vents about his problems and it's actually really sweet.

And I also find it interesting that Laura was called in specifically to help delivery Carols baby. She was also the one in charge of the delivery room renovations while the in laws were visiting. Dr. Hismus is in the book and he’s there, but for some reason Laura also had to be there to deliver the baby.

At the council meeting there was mention of Frostmas Dolls. I don't even wanna know what those would look like.

We also get a foreword by Bernard and Bman’s signature

#nonart #text #The Santa Clause #the santa clause 3 #the santa clause 3 novel #the santa clause 3 book #It was a WILD RIDE yall #reading this thing was a trip #but also! It will serve as great inspo for my main storyline i hva eplanned #a lot of little things about the book i actually really liked

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jewishdragon · 1 year

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....how on EARTH did anyone put Christianity in httyd? and WHY?/

The age of Fandom Crossover did it. I believe it started with SuperWhoLock (I have to admit combining Sherlock Holmes just in general with Doctor Who makes a lot of sense it is good team up)

But the crossover was (as the post you read my tags on) Rise of the Brave Tangled Dragons

Dragons = HTTYD

Rise = Rise of the Guardians. A movie where the Easter bunny and Santa Claus are real and godlike beings??? I think??? I haven’t seen it because as a Jewish person I have negative interest in Christian icons teaming up to do things

(shout out tho to The Santa Clause 3 for doing this first!! If I recall that team up (or rather… it was more like a gathering of world leaders??) it was Santa, Jack Frost, Easter Bunny, Mother Nature, Father Time, Cupid, and Sand Man. Those movies are fucking dumb but the core concept of whoever KILLS SANTA REPLACES HIM was fucking funny, and the series founded on having wildly random fey-level rules/laws for Santa again very fucking funny. Does it make me a hypocrite bc I watched those? I don’t think so. Pretty sure I didn’t choose to see them I was taken to the theaters. When Rise Of the Guardians came out I was like ‘oh like in Santa clause 3. But I have more awareness of Christian hegemony now’) (and full disclosure the reason I recalled the Santa clause 3 so well was The Flop House covered it recently. That was a good episode. Eliot the resident Jewish man of the show had Thoughts And Opinions and he’s right. Also Jack Frost in SC3 is way hotter. He’s like Evil Sorcerer Hot)

#rise of the guardians #httyd #I’m throwing some sassy shade #I’m trying to be what the kids call Funny

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drarreckyninja · 2 years

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drarreckyninja's top 50 ships of Feb 2022 [part 1/5]

50. Cistall

Sister "Cissy" Bear x Too Tall "TT" Grizzly [The Berenstain Bears]

Cissy easily becomes narcissistic when it comes to her hobbies, like dancing and jump rope. She's also a major gossiper; both quirks similar to TT's ex-girlfriend Queenie. TT has a soft center, and I could see them getting together when they get older.

49. Brayla

Brittany Ann x Kayla [Miss BG]

It may be a Dom/Sub relationship, considering how easily Kayla obeys Brittany Ann's dictations. She'll easily taunt others (including friends) if that's Brittany Ann's decision. It's not completely one-sided, as Brittany Ann admits that Kayla's the best friend she's got. And she'd rather spend Valentine's Day with Kayla than the boy who's after her affections.

48. Barge

Beetle Bailey x Sergeant "Sarge" Snorkel [Beetle Bailey comics]

It's actually become a popular headcanon that Beetle and Sarge are gay lovers in a Don't Ask, Don't Tell era military, and their constant scuffles and insults are disguised as sexual tension built up by their inability to freely engage in a relationship.

47. Wonkafrost

Willy Wonka x Jack Frost [Charlie and the Chocolate Factory x The Santa Clause 3: The Escape Clause]

Both men are outcasts among their peer groups and families. They have big plans for their businesses and are very eccentric in their ways. Furthermore, neither of them cares much for the women in their company.

46. Jacey

Josephine "Joey" Potter x Pacey Witter [Dawson's Creek]

Dawson is much too petty when it comes to his friends, causing fights whether or not intentional. Pacey loved Joey first, and he's there for Joey when she needs him. He doesn't want to give her up and says as much, but he only wants her to stay with him if she'll be happy.

45. Kames

Ken Jennings III x James Holzhauer [Jeopardy; The Chase]

Ken and James have a friendly, hilarious rivalry. They banter online, but they also go shopping together. In 2003, on Ken's first Jeopardy episode, he claimed to be there because of "two drunk teenagers and a truck driver in the Nevada desert." In 2003, James was 18-19. Was he one of the drunk Nevada teenagers? I like to think so.

44. Sparkison

Elliot Spencer x Parker x Alec Hardison [Leverage]

John Rogers basically verified in a tweet that he used the original series finale to make this OT3 canon. They are always there for one another.

43. Dasey

Derek x Casey [Life with Derek]

In the beginning, they seemed to just be average stepsiblings... then it went left field. You gotta remember that they're two teenagers who don't know each other and are forced to live together. They grow certain attachments, and it might not be all platonic.

42. Licmint

Lord Licorice x Mister Mint [Candyland; Candy Land: The Great Lollipop Adventure]

Mint is very optimistic and has no qualms in sneaking through Licorice's cave a la shortcut... until he gets caught. IRL: licorice and peppermint go very well together.

41. Lumiworth

Lumiere x Cogsworth [Beauty and the Beast]

Although Lumiere spent a lot of time in the first movie with his feather duster girlfriend, he was also happy to kiss Cogsworth after they chased off the villagers. They're snarky yet affectionate to one another, and they truly care for each other.

#the berenstain bears #miss bg #beetle bailey #charlie and the chocolate factory #the santa clause 3 the escape claus #dawsons creek #jeopardy #the chase #leverage #life with derek #candyland the great lollipop adventure #beauty and the beast #my ships #countdown

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x2017slc · 5 years

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A Year Without a Santa Claus

It would have made more sense to post this before the New Year, but since Christmas happened not too long ago, here’s my cast to bring an old stop-motion Christmas flick to life in live-action form today.

I have also decided to add three new components to my castings, if applicable: screenwriters, composer and director. I wanted to add these to display my appreciation for not only what happens on-screen, but off-screen as well.

Santa Clause - John Goodman

It was hard to think of someone who hasn’t played Santa yet and do him justice, but for this particular casting Goodman has the right kind of underhanded, sarcastic tone that he had in the original.

Mrs. Clause - Helen Mirren

With this casting, you have to make it ‘classy’ or ‘elegant,’ so the first actress who comes to mind for me for this role would have to be Dame Mirren.

Jingle - Sean Astin

I personally see a lot of parallels between Jingle and Sean Astin’s character in Lord of the Rings, Sam, so it seemed like a no-brainer.

Jangle - Oliver Phelps

Speaking of no-brainers, Phelps’ quirkiness makes him more than capable of taking the reins of this character.

Snow Miser - Martin Short

I know what you’re thinking, I only chose him because he played Jack Frost in Santa Clause 3: The Escape Clause (2006). Although that may or may not be true, his ability to spurt out a quick quip and, believe it or not, singing ability, was the main reason for choosing him.

Heat Miser - Joe Pesci

Just from seeing him in Home Alone (1990) with his hot-headed temper makes him the most eligible.

Mother Nature - Emily Blunt

I am a big fan of Emily Blunt, from Into the Woods (2014) and Mary Poppins Returns (2018), and under the people I’ve selected in the new sections I’ve started to integrate for this blog, she would thrive.

Ignatius - Jacob Tremblay

I swear, he looks pretty much exactly like the kid in the old Christmas film.

Ignatius' Mother - Frances McDormand

In hindsight, she looks slightly more like the Mother Nature, but she is very good at playing the mother (Please tell me you’ve seen Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri (2017)).

Ignatius' Father – Marc McClure

He actually looks like the kid’s father. I’m not sure if he can sing, but he was Marty McFly’s older brother and Jimmy Olsen in the Christopher Reeves Superman films, so he has had a pretty good reputation.

Mayor - J.K. Simmons

Think about it! “I want pictures of Spider-Man!!!” could be turned into “I want pictures of snow!!!”

Writers:

Rob Marshall

Damien Chazelle

Richard Curtis

Marshall and Chazelle would be the modern day movie musical dream team, as their credibility has come to new heights within the last few years, and Curtis would be good to have on board as he has had great success in Christmas drama before.

Composer:

Marc Shaiman

Justin Hurwitz

It would only make sense, with director Marshall, who had Shaiman do a fantastic job with Mary Poppins Returns (2018), and Hurwitz could certainly add the flair he integrated in Chazelle’s 2016 hit, La La Land.

Director:

Rob Marshall

I choose Marshall as director as his experience and vision in the world of movie musicals is unparalleled and understands how everything that happens in a musical impacts the audience.

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nixonsmoviereviews · 6 years

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"The Santa Clause 3: The Escape Clause"- I wish I had escaped the theater...

Look, by no means am I a massive fan of the fairly beloved "Santa Clause" trilogy from Disney that were released between 1994 and 2006. They just weren't my cup of tea. But I could definitely understand the appeal of the often clever and entertaining original. And I do think that for what it was, the second movie provided a modest amount of chuckles and good-natured giggles. But good lord, was the third and final installment a letdown! I remember getting roped into seeing it on the big-screen one day with my extended family... and I still haven't forgiven them. "The Santa Clause 3: The Escape Clause" is one of the most patchy, disjointed and all around messy family films to have come out in recent years, and that fact that it's excused all too often because it's "just a silly movie for kids" is just disconcerting and worrying. People, we need to have higher standards for the entertainment we subject our children to. The first two movies were definitely on par with what children's entertainment should be. The third... doesn't even come close. Tim Allen is back once again as Scott Calvin/Santa Clause. But all is not well, thanks to his attempts to impress his visiting in-laws, the stress of knowing Mrs. Clause is pregnant with their first child and the arrival of the jealous wannabe-star Jack Frost. (Martin Short) Pining for the recognition of other fantastical beings, Frost manipulates Calvin into exorcising the "Escape Clause", causing a rift in time that stops him from ever having become the newest Santa in the first place. Now stuck in an alternate time-line where Frost has assumed the role of Santa Clause and has turned the North Pole and Christmas at large into a kitschy way to make money and attain fame, Scott must figure out a way to make things right once again and restore Christmas to its former glory. To give credit where it is due, there are a few charming elements at play that keep the film from imploding into a complete train-wreck. Allen is charming as ever as our lead and has some fun moments. Short makes for a great whiny, conniving villainous presence. And while his role isn't quite as big as I might have liked, I also very much enjoyed co-star Alan Arkin as Scott's perpetually cranky father-in-law. There's also a fun little sequence where Scott and the elves try to disguise the North Pole as Canada as a ruse so that his wife's visiting parents won't discover his true identity that supplies a few decent chuckles. But unfortunately, the fun stops there. This isn't really a film so much as a sub-par sitcom Christmas special, and the laughs come few and far in-between. There's a few interesting ideas at play, but they are never thoroughly addressed or developed, and the script does the film no favors. It's one of those strange cases where the film feels light on plot, yet somehow still overstuffed at the same time thanks to a collection of conflicting and messy sub- plots that consistently distract from the main story. It's a shame, because the idea of Scott "losing" his identity as Santa Clause and having to reclaim it after witnessing the effects it would have on the world around him is a charming enough idea... it could have easily been played as a riff on classics like "It's a Wonderful Life" or even "A Christmas Carol"... but it's never fully explored because instead we have to waste so much time up front with Scott worrying about being a father, or Scott worrying about charming his in-laws or a number of obnoxious and surprisingly low-quality set- pieces that fail to illicit either drama or laughs. From what I can gather, the budget was slashed fairly tremendously between films, with this movie costing only a small fraction of what was spent on the first two entries, and it definitely shows on- screen. The film has all the aesthetic character and charm of a cheap Hallmark TV-movie, and is filled to burst with frankly flat and boring production and character design. Who'd have thought the North Pole or Fairy Tale characters like Jack Frost or the Tooth Fairy could look so dull? It can't even come close to matching the visual flair of the prior films, and there are a lot of effects present that are just... unsettling to look at because they look so out-of-place due to their low-budget quality. The reindeer look like they came right off of stage at a Chuck E Cheese and good lord, the Easter Bunny is the stuff nightmares are made out of! Add to that a completely apathetic supporting cast who are coasting by on autopilot, an uninspired musical score with no discernible or memorable themes, really amateurish cinematography and just an otherwise head-scratching production full of half-hearted effort, and you got a recipe for a completely and utterly underwhelming film. It's shocking just how huge a dip in quality this third and final chapter takes, and it comes off as nothing more than a condescending cash- grab as a result. This is a cynical effort from a cynical crew who just want to make a little more money before the well dries up. Nothing more. Nothing less. "The Santa Clause 3: The Escape Clause" barely squeaks by with a 3 out of 10. The youngest of children might get a kick out of it thanks to a few clever gags peppered in here and there and the very un- challenging tone it has. But fans of the first two will likely just feel disappointed.

#imdb #movie #film #review #comedy

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