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simplydnp · 2 months

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Sometimes I think Dan and Phil are totally platonic besties and then other times I’m convinced they fuck on the daily. I think they do it on purpose and it’s honestly iconic.

kind of the best thing is that they are that and everything in between. you can tell they just like being around each other. they've made content together for 15 years and the large majority of it was done in the strictly platonic sense for their audience. and they were still having so much fun with it. we're in the 'we know you know' era now so we get to see flashes of different dynamics they have, but they absolutely have more we Don't get to see bc they're not for us.

they like each other. stupidly fond of each other. spending time together doesn't feel exhausting. they're best friends and each others' harshest critics while being the biggest hypeman and also safe space.

dnp's relationship with us, their audience, always has been and always will be different than any other content creators. part of it is how they accumulated it, but another part is just the massive history we have with them. they Get us. they Know us. they're silly goofy sarcastic guys who love us and hate us sometimes. theyre grateful but careful too. they like to rile us up, just like they do each other. it's a love language, teasing, and we've shown positive responses to it over the years. i like to say that my relationship with dnp is antagonistic sometimes--cause i know they're pushing my buttons on purpose. and ykw? it's fun! it's fun for us and it's fun for them because they have the control. i know anything they let out is cause they chose to let it out because they Know how we are. so yes they absolutely adore messing with us. we're a funny bunch.

#im getting sappy again #the things you mention anon are not mutually exclusive for dnp. which is a lot of the fun of it #like for me personally. why be in a relationship with someone who isnt your best friend. i dont know how they couldnt be your favourite ever #like maybe im projecting but theirs is probably the healthiest depiction of love i have in my life #theres movies and tv but its not real. and yes dnp are produced. and aware. and curate. but theyre not selling a relationship.#sure we perceive it. but its not the goal. the product is the entertainment value of them together cause theyre funny.#whereas almost every relationship ive properly witnessed in my life seems like. a trap. genuinely.#its like well no love isnt actually real its a concept you just. are stuck. for the rest of existence. be happy about it.#and with dnp its like oh like love is actually real. like theres a reason people want to stay together forever.#like people Do get lost in each others eyes. they get a different look on their face that reads i love you #theres people out there who will love every aspect of you and never get enough of you or your time #i am. so far off on a tangent.#anyways love dnp love the cat and mouse game we play together #dnp #c.text #dan and phil #answered

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razberrypuck · 4 months

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No but I Also think about fnc like that.....like if they're anything then chip has a crush & gill is literally just vibing & thats that so I feel u 100%

exactlyyyyy like maybe it's the aroace in me but most things gillion has done have ALWAYS felt very platonic to me, bc it seems like that's just. how he expresses affection. where chip gets flustered on occasion, gillion "experiences Very Big Emotions" tidestrider is so nonchalant about it (with EVERYONE, not just chip,) with very few exceptions lmao

#obligatory i dont care if you interpret things different!! thats okay!! we can have different opinions and feelings!!#also maybe its just bc i like swordfish more but honestly--#-- some of his behavior around caspian is the most Actually Romantically Interested gillion has seemed??#to me anyway #but generally gill doesnt read as a very romantically inclined person #hes somewhere on the aro spectrum in my mind #(yes i know hes also canonically ace)#jrwi riptide

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good-beans · 11 months

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hiii ( ´ ▽ ` )ﾉ i've always loved your milgram posts and was hoping to hear you talk about them more. it's a bit of a vague question but i was hoping to hear your thoughts about the characters or songs? or really anything that's been on your mind! apart from that i hope you've been having a good day (or night!)

!!!!! Omg thank you so much?? This made me so happy ;----; I’m sorry if this is more than you bargained for LMAO, I planned on jotting down a few ideas and then I just kept on writing..... I hope you’re having a lovely day/night as well!✨

So, I’m actually not that great with coming up with crime-logistic theories (timelines, cause of death, etc), but I’ve been really interested in the insights we get on characterization from the visuals – specifically looking at the image of the self each prisoner creates. The videos come directly from inside their minds, so these self-portrayals aren’t biased with any manipulation, or how they want Es to view them. I’ve been bouncing these around in my head for a while, so thank you for the reason to actually put them down somewhere! So here are details I’ve gathered on each of them: (And as with everything in Milgram, this is just how I understood the symbolism – if people have other interpretations, I’d love to hear them!)

I've been adding edits as the videos come out, it's through Double now 👍

Haruka: In T1 he definitely views himself as guilty and dangerous. Though it’s dulled with crayon/mixed media, he conjurs a version of himself that’s committing acts of violence even in his suffering. The fact that his younger self takes place as the victim is huge to me. I know it could mean a lot of different things, but my personal interpretation is that Haruka sees his younger self in his little sister. He’s been in her shoes, at a time his mother loved him best. He believes he is the reason she stopped loving him, so he hates this younger version of himself. And this leads him to hate her now that he’s seeing the similarities. I believe the crimes happened extremely recently, so it’s interesting that he portrays himself as a child in much of AKAA. He’s not trying to gain any sympathy with it, he still genuinely feels like a child because of how much he struggles with everything. I don’t know what it means yet, but I’m really interested that despite all the water imagery he creates, he visualizes himself sinking, but never actually drowning/short of breath.

Yuno: Between both her videos, we only ever see her, her, her. This is because her motivations start and end with herself. I know her situation relies heavily on her clients, but in her mind, the one who was in control the whole time was only her. She’s the only one she can trust to take care of her and show her real love. She got into her line of work to benefit herself, and she went through with the abortion to benefit herself. She's taking the ultimate responsibility for everything that happened to her and everything that she did. Though it makes me happy to see it framed as all self love, it’s also clear that she’s unhappy with her decision. And, when everything revolves around versions of herself, there’s only one person she has to hate...

Fuuta: His self-imagery makes it really clear how his mindset changed between trials. In T1 he genuinely saw himself as the hero, the perfect knight-in-shining-armor. Once doubt started to creep into his mind, though, he suddenly portrays himself as a criminal hiding/running in dark areas. It also emphasizes what he was saying about he and Es being the same: the girl that he accused of being guilty turned to ash after being sprayed with his paint, and he starts turning to ash along with Es’ accusation and paint spray. I know people took that as his suicidal intent, (and while that’s still a thing he does express in Backdraft,) I actually think his burning is just his fear that he’ll die at the end of Milgram. Another little detail, but someone mentioned Fuuta only lowered his mask in BIO while he’s looking at his phone, showing that he was comfortable being his true self online. Meaning, he had to hide some part of him in the rest of his life. The original post said it was his sexuality, but I feel as though it’s just his general paranoia of living around warriors for justice who are constantly evaluating everyone’s behavior.

Muu: Like I said, the mvs are unaffected by how the prisoners want Es to see them, soI was confused when people accused Muu of lying in T1 – that’s really how she took the situation! In her mind, that pain and mistreatment made up everything in her. Her being a bully didn’t matter then, because it was her being a victim that led to the murder. In T2, it becomes obvious that she does harbor guilt. No innocent person would imagine themselves as a monstrous, destructive creature like that. If she really saw herself as ‘queen bee,’ her self-image would be flawless and lovable. INMF also showed she wasn’t exaggerating when she said the murder was to free her: we see her self-image undergo a full metamorphosis and sprout beautiful wings to fly away after she committed her crime. Though she feels guilty, she still believes it was necessary to free her and is grateful for it.

Shidou: I’m still working on something more solid for him, but it’s neat that T1 he’s expressing so much guilt, yet his self-image is engaged in very abstract activities (like gardening and eating). In T2 he’s chilled out a bit, but that’s the video that death is literally following everywhere he goes (flowers dying behind him, ghosts surrounding him). It’s also worth noting he has his doctor’s coat on for most of Throw Down, and then the only time he has it in Triage is at the very end when he’s vowing to help the other prisoners. I’ll get back with a more solid conclusion on his soon…

Mahiru: Like Yuno (and semi-Haruka), the fact that she’s the only one to appear in her T1 mv means all her turmoil at that point was focused inward. She saw herself as the center of her story, which isn’t necessarily a selfish thing. It means she didn’t blame her boyfriend for anything that happened, even though we know it was likely both of their behaviors that led to the crime. Still, she’s taking all the focus on herself, showing off all the things she did and failed to do for him. The fact that everything is styled like magazine pages hints that she genuinely sees their relationship as the picture perfect example of love. After all, she was just “being herself” when she got him killed. Even that deep in her heart, she’s convinced love makes everything glossy and perfect. T2 is an exaggeration on both if these concepts -- she still places all the blame/responsibility on herself, but with the doubt creeping into her mind, she now paints herself as a villain who's actively causing harm. She still believes love can make things seem perfect, but you get the sense she's become more aware that love wasn't transforming her, it was blinding her.

Kazui: So this is an interesting one. I know that the performance aspect in Half is obviously taken as him acting that he loves his wife when he’s fallen in love with someone else. However, the fact that he’s singing the song about how he doesn’t love her, while still on stage/in costume, gives me a different idea. His emotions are so incredibly repressed and fucked up that even in the privacy of his own heart, he feels like he has to act sad about her death when he actually has more complex emotions than that. Not that he’s happy about it per se, but the feelings are too complex for him to show even himself. (We’ve all been there, where even in our private thoughts it’s embarrassing to be excited about something terrible and we pretend we aren’t.) That’s why I think he sounds so different in Cat – he’s able to start processing that he may be relieved, or freed that she’s gone. Or maybe he’s just realizing the murder was indirect, and he’s allowed to mourn her without feeling personally guilty for her death. So I agree the costumes represent hiding his emotions, but I think it symbolizes him lying to himself rather than just lying to his wife. Now with Cat out, he also shows a shift of seeing himself more guilty. Rather than a passive character, his self appears as someone known for manipulation/deception/trickery -- someone in charge of the situation. He's coming to terms with his active role in Hinako's death. There's also a lot of his vices shown explicitly, like his smoking and drinking. He's painting himself in a much worse light as his guilt gets to him. (There's also something to be said about the whole thing appearing under a filter of advertisement/magazine style, but I have yet to form a conclusion I'm happy with on that)

Amane: The major thing I took away from Magic was the idea that Amane really felt isolated in her cult. She saw herself as a normal girl, but no one else is like her. The other children are all animals, and the adults in charge are animalistic or robotic. There’s such a divide between her and everyone else. She’s not living up to their religious standards the way that everyone else seems to be. With the adults, it could be the general feeling that they never listen to or understand her because of her age. In T2, she presents a new idea: she's struggling with how complex and contradictory the self is. The human psyche has so many parts and motivations, all represented by the marching band members. She wants to be good. She's flawed. She wants to help. She's hurting. She knows she's made mistakes. She thinks she deserves punishment. That punishment is killing her. The adults around her make behaving look/sound so easy, but at her age it's so difficult to be a good girl! She wants to show this to Es, since she believes her own misbehavior + following the rules is what led to her murder.

Mikoto: He’s got So much going on with identity and sense of self, but I don’t have a ton on him that hasn’t already been said lol. I’ve joked that the reason Meme got the most views is because it’s the mv that shows the most skin, but on a serious note I think it’s really telling that there are so many bathing/showering/teeth brushing shots. Those are the stereotypical times we’re completely alone with ourselves – cleaning off everything external so that it’s just us in our purest form left when we’re done. An interesting switch I've noticed in Double is that the two major alters never appear beside each other -- there's the reflection in the mirror at one point (and I think they're face to face in the last shot?) but we never see both onscreen at the same time. This is because each one wants to distance themselves from the other: Bokukoto wants to show he's far from a killer, and Orekoto wants to make it clear he's the one who was violent. Neither wants to be mistaken for the other, but it's much easier to do so since they look exactly the same in this video (no color-coded clothes or eyes or lighting.) A minor detail, but the fact that his own mind conjured up quotes around the word "savior" makes it clear that Orekoto is slowly realizing his actions may have gotten Bokukoto into more trouble than they saved him from...

Kotoko: I don’t have too much on her at the moment since a lot of her scenes seem to be memories of her actual life and are already in line with what she’s admitted about herself. Still, I think the running-alongside-wolves scenes reveal a lot. She very clearly works alone, but wolves are known for hunting in a pack. Does she have a pack we haven’t seen yet? Is there a reason she’s no longer with them? Does she just dream of running with one because she craves that belonging so deeply? @tokyogruel pointed out that wolves are known for caring for weaker pack members, and that there have been analyses of the Harrow wolves being Kotoko's family members. This is revealing a more prominent focus on family than she's made known so far. She doesn't see herself as an elevated hero -- she always views herself as part of a team, which can be seen in her 'deal' with Es and all her T2 commentary of their partnership (despite being their prisoner). She's always been working with and for others.

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tethered-heartstrings · 6 days

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i'm basically done with writing my will/hannibal smoking ficlets. there are over a dozen different ones based on prompts from an old post of mine ranging from about 500 - 2k words a piece. they aren't inherently connected at all and are meant to be standalone fics, related only by the overarching theme of smoking. i haven't written anything like this before so want opinions/input.

*if i post them as one "fic", each chapter/story will have their own tags listed in the beginning and all the collective tags listed under the "fic". if i do a toc, it'll at list titles and prompts. no toc then prompts will be listed before the fic with the tags for said fic. each fic does have a title if that makes any difference

also not inherently bad to rb but don't bc the poll is really just for me lol

#opinions welcome in the replies as well #it just seems weird and/or annoying to post 15 different fics when some are literally only 500 words #that could be totally normal though i just dont know #there in no particular order except ''chronological'' from the list in my post #idc the ''etiquette'' lol i normally just have one single story #i still need to send it to beta but that'll be like tomorrow so hopefully soon i can post them #i suppose one benefit of posting individually is i can post one a day? or eod? and i can see stats specifically per story #ik you can like link separate fics together or smth but i have never actually tried lol #am i overthinking this? yes as is my m.o.#the speaking clown

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mcybree · 13 days

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yknow I wasnt feeling like finishing my flower husbands essay (I feel less of a push to now that I dont technically Have To meticulously prove/justify my stance— people do just. agree with me now! which is insane) but I’m starting to think maybe it’s still needed actually

#I’m cautious because it was always a passion project rather than one of spite. I dont want to resume it out of spite #But on review of both my tag and recent fandom discussion of toxic fh portrayals…#having it all laid out in one place seems preferable to the sporadic posts in my tag.#I’d just need to adjust the hypothetical audience I am writing for a bit from ‘guy who knows about fh and is open to other interpretations’#to ‘guy who doesnt know about fh’#However a lot of joy I personally get from fh comes from my own somewhat fanon interpretation of it #(aka I like to imagine they‘re slightly more ‘’‘in love’’’ than they actually are shown to be. surprisingly)#actually. the canon speaks for itself in what scott does in the absence of it. I think I just need to refocus…..#…hey guys. do we think two essays with different focuses within the same document is a good or rational idea ?#bree barks so fucking loud

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sualne · 7 months

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Since crocodile is really protective of luffy how would he react if luffy tried to go on date with someone? Or if he thought luffy had a crush/ someone has a crush on luffy, regardless of if the crushes are real or not? I imagine it would depend on who the other person is but I doubt there's many people he would approve of

answered a similar ask for lulaw specifically, i think i said something about croc going through various stage of grief and creating new ones but ultimately letting it happen because his boy being happy is what's most important.

you're right that it would depend who's into luffy and that there aren't many folks he'd approve of. (i say "into luffy" because aroace luffy here probably wouldn't really identify anything as a crush and think of it as "special friendship" or being really intrigued by someone instead).

croc himself has trouble identifying his own feelings that way (didnt realize he was in love with dragon till it was too late) so either its a friends or crush he's wary of anyone that come close to luffy.

#crocau ask #i say all that but it might be good to know that my definition of a crush is gesturing vaguely towards someone while making a 'idk' yet #intrigued noise. i dont actually know what words means and everyone seems to have a different definition anyway so its probably fine

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aeoris4lovers · 10 months

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i hope verin doesn't fight essek to let him touch him. i hope he respects his boundaries.

i think it’s worth keeping in mind that, while i see a lot of people headcanon essek as touch averse, that’s never actually established as canon. we see him act annoyed or put out by physical affection (the group hug at the blooming grove), not really know what to do with himself when he gets it (jester hugging him at the outpost), and reject it when it’s being used to manipulate him (caleb squeezing his arm while trying to persuade him), but we never really see him outright reject it or express that it genuinely bothers him.

so i don’t think he really dislikes being touched in and of itself, i just think part of him sees it as silly and unnecessary because he saw love and relationships in general as silly and unnecessary for a long time, and i think verin would say “fuck that” and do it anyway just like jester and the rest of the nein do because he knows essek well enough to know he doesn’t actually dislike it, he just avoids it on principle. it’s less that he hates being touched, and more he hates that he doesn’t hate it, you know? and i think verin would be the last person to care about letting essek uphold that cold, i-don’t-need-anyone facade.

not to mention, i don’t know if you have siblings but i do and i can tell you that a certain amount of boundary pushing is basically a sibling love language — when you know a person that well, you know what will annoy them versus what will cross a line and how to tell when their reaction goes from being annoyed to being genuinely upset, so you can fuck with them a lot without really hurting them. essek might roll his eyes and go stiff and complain the whole way when verin hugs him, but verin would know him well enough to know that’s not what it looks like when he’s actually upset so it’s safe to keep doing it anyway.

i imagine verin always knew essek enough to know he secretly enjoyed the affection verin showed to him, even if he acted like it was the stupidest thing in the world. so when i say essek doesn’t fight it anymore, i don’t mean there was a time when verin would literally force essek to take the affection, i mean essek always accepted it but had to put on a show of hating it while he took it because he felt like it went against the person he was trying to be and he couldn’t let anyone know he liked it.

#tbc i dont mind touch averse essek hcs at all #it just. is a headcanon not canon yknow #essek clearly has boundaries around touch (like all people) but in canon its not to the point that he wholly dislikes it #and if anyone would know how far you can go before you actually upset him it would be verin #i say this from experience bc me and my sibling very much use touchy stuff to annoy each other #and i tend to seem on the outside like a lot of affection from my family bothers me #but we know how far we can take it and my reactions to someone Actually taking it too far are very clearly different from acting annoyed #ask answered #the thelyss brothers #essek thelyss #verin thelyss #c2 #critical role

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