#house of many waters

[princessofmerchants]

My prediction about the next four books SJM will publish

I wanted to get this down somewhere, in part to process my angst about the possibility of what may come last in this next cluster of book releases 😫 but also to record the plot and character threads I am seeing as important heading into the next stretch of books SJM will release.

This includes HOFAS, ACOTAR, and TOG spoilers so it's after the break.

DISCLAIMER: These are just my guesses based on various interviews SJM has given both before and after the HOFAS release — THE ONLY SERIES BOOK THAT'S CONFIRMED IN THIS LIST IS ACOTAR5 BEING NEXT, and with that one, the main characters and plot threads I'll mention have also not yet been confirmed (beyond an avalanche of textual evidence 👀)

So, here are my predictions, circa 1.5 weeks after HOFAS was released:

➡️NEXT: ACOTAR5 - Az/Gwyn + Nesta and the Valkyries (which should also include Mor, ideally in a shared storyline with Emerie), Illyria / Ramiel / the Prison (and maybe a return of the pegasuses to Prythian), Gwydion and Truth Teller (not to mention the other two Made blades Nesta forged in ACOSF - also will Narben make an appearance? 👀), and I also think the first part of the Autumn Court drama may be told in this book - the truth about what happened between Mor and Eris, Beron's ongoing treachery, and Beron may die in this book making Eris High Lord (though some of these items may also be in ACOTAR6 instead - I do think the Mor and Eris story needs to come out in ACOTAR5 though, for Az to make peace with his 500 years of pining for her)

➡️FOLLOWED BY: A Throne of Glass crossover book - Shifter Fae + humans, more history and context about when the ancient Erilea Fae world-jumped to Midgard and served the Asteri, a story that creates threads and connections (of some kind, no idea how, and not sure which ToG characters it would entail) to Lidia (deer shifter with fire magic a la Aelin), Tharion (and the Mer as a people - ToG stans, remind me, were there mer in the ToG series at all? I'm pretty sure Rigelus says they hailed from the same world as the wolves and other Midgard shifters - I've read ToG in full but not as closely as ACOTAR and CC), and Ithan (wolf shifter with ice magic a la Dorian)

➡️THEN I AM THINKING: CC4: House of Many Waters - This would be the continuation of the story threads SJM did not resolve or finish by the end of HOFAS: Lidia's "service" to the Ocean Queen (and more RuhnLidia story with Brann and Ace 😍), Tharion/Sathia with Flynn and their earth magic / Avallen and the pegasuses, Ithan as the new Prime of the Wolves (and something with Perry - why did the antidote fade for her so fast?), Firstlight Zero, widespread distribution of the antidote, Ariadne (where did she go??!), and maybe more portal hopping to Prythian for Bryce, Hunt, Ember, and Randall (OH and maybe Ruhn here too, to get him in the same room as Rhys 👀) to further develop the cross-world friendships we saw forming in HOFAS

➡️WHICH MEANS FOURTH IN SJM'S AIRPLANE TAXI LINE WOULD BE (SOBS): ACOTAR6 - Elain/Lucien, Band of Exiles, Firebird retelling, Koschei, the mortal queens, and the conclusion of the big magical conflict that began with the finding of the Dread Trove in ACOSF, not to mention the Archeron sisters finally acknowledging and healing all of their familial baggage that was born from their collective and generational hardships from their time as humans (so Elain also coming to terms with her Seer powers and being Fae / no longer human - also answering the question: What happened when Elain went into the Cauldron?), I also think some of the Autumn Court drama would play out in this story Helion/Lady Autumn and Lucien's heritage (Day Court heir?), as well as more information about Papa Archeron from the time period of ACOWAR when Lucien traveled with him (LOTS of processing complex and problematic parents in this one!)

Again, these are JUST MY IDEAS - the ToG book guess is based on SJM saying after ACOTAR5 she's excited about the world her next book will be in which she implied was not the CC or ACOTAR world, and which will be emotional for her because of "who may pop up" - if that doesn't scream a return to her to the ToG universe then I don't know what would.

Then the 3rd and 4th predictions follow from that 2nd one being ToG and what I think she may focus on in it to add layers to her crossover - which seems like something she would want to do after how much work she's put into it so far.

I think there's a stronger and deeper fanbase for ACOTAR6 than there will be for CC4, so I think that could impact a decision to write and release CC4 first (since us ACOTAR stans would wait decades for the conclusion of that story and still buy a bazillion copies of it).

WHICH MEANS (SOBS), if these books are released one every 1.5 years on average... It may be quite a few years until we get our Elucien book 😭 ACOMAF came out in 2016. It would be PAST 2026 when ACOTAR6 gets released, over 10 years, until we get to see what actually comes of Elain's and Lucien's mating bond, if the above winds up bring true.

I swear, Eluciens are going to get the trophy for longest wait to see these two in their endgame, bless our patient souls 🏆

(There is always a chance the last two in the list will be in reverse order, with ACOTAR6 followed by CC4, but even if that winds up being the case, it would still be three books from now for ACOTAR6.)

#these are just my predictions #hofas spoilers #post hofas discussion #sarah j maas #house of flame and shadow #crescent city #acotar #a court of thorns and roses #throne of glass #tog crossover #acotar 5 #acotar 6 #crescent city 4 #house of many waters #elucien #gwynriel #ruhnlidia #emorie #satharion #nesta archeron #valkyries #azriel #gwyneth berdara #tharion ketos #ithan holstrom #lidia cervos #ruhn danaan #lucien vanserra #elain archeron

[fleyrie]

How we feelin guys

#hofas #house of many waters #Sarah j Mass #crescent city #Bryce Quinlan

[shallyne]

Friendly Reminder

that House of Flame and Shadow is not necessarily the better title for Crescent City 3 because SJM set up Tharions little mermaid retelling so there is a good possibility that the next CC book will be called House of Many Waters

#crescent city 3 #crescent city #house of sky and breath #cc hosab #hosab #House of Many Waters #Homw #House of flame and shadow #Hofas

[alex-catlady]

Crescent city : sobeks

My mind:

#crescent city #cc hofas #cc hoeab #cc hosab #sjmaas #sobek #tharion ketos #house of many waters

[wiitchkiller]

Theory: We all know sjm plans to write more stories about crescent city with the 97 other characters she has introduced, right??

I have a feeling that House of Many Waters (i assume this would be the title of book after HOFAS) would be the end for Hunt and Bruce's side of the story.

By then, all major houses would have been covered already as titles. But sjm loves continuity in her titles (cant say the same for the covers lmao), so my theory is by the end of the 4th book, the 4 houses would be dissolved as it has been mentioned that this current system is problematic. I believe after the asteri are gone or something, the 4 houses will be split to more parts that are more fair and representative of the creatures. And those new houses would become the title of her next books in the series.

#why was this sitting in my drafts since march lol #personally not a fan of many waters being a possible title but this is sjm #her titles do not make much sense tbh #maybe bryce would become little mermaid in this one #sarah j maas #sjm #sjm theory #crescent city #house of earth and blood #house of sky and breath #house of flame and shadow #house of many waters #bryce quinlan #hunt athalar #ruhn danaan

[highladyofterrasen7]

I’m thinking that cc4 will be about a different couple

The only remaining house is house of many waters

Notice how it’s missing an and (flame AND shadow, sky AND breath)

In acotar, the first book to lack an and wasn’t about feysand

Maybe it’s a pattern

It could be Ruhnlidia (if they survive), ithan and the mystic, ariflynn (plssssss)

That is all and I need help

#sarah j maas #crescent city #hoeab #hofas #cc4 #house of many waters #bryce quinlan #hunt athalar #ruhn danaan #ithan holstrom #tharion ketos

[bryceandhunt]

“Deep beneath the sea”

This makes me think in Book 3, Bryce and Tharion will end up in Tharion’s city, below the water, investigating the world before the Asteri.

#theories #crescent city 3 #house of many waters #cc homw #cc house of many waters #cc3 #tharion #captain tharion #aidas #crescent city #bryce quinlan #jana reads hosab #house of sky and breath #cc hosab #hosab #crescent city house of sky and breath #sarah j. maas #sjmaas #sjm #maas #sarah j maas books #hosab sjm

[aesthetic-solar-space]

Crescent City - House of Earth and Blood by Sarah J. Maas

 807 pages, published March 3, 2020 - 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 This book...wow! I am gonna say something insane seeing as Throne Of Glass is one of my absolute favorite series but... I think this is my absolute favorite SJM book. I am hesitant to read the second one for two reasons mostly; 1) The date of the next SJM book has yet to be announced. That goes for any of her series - no word. 2) I am honestly not sure I will like the ending (yes I know all about it - spoilers are wicked). But ever since Nesta's book I have been looking at Rhys in a new light and I'm not sure how I feel.

#crescent city #house of earth and blood #house of flame and shadows #house of many waters #house of sky and breath #bryce quinlan #rhun danaan #hunt athalar #lidia cervos #danika fendyr #ithan holstrom #cormac donnall #hypaxia enador #aidias #college student #college life #social distancing #adult ish #chronicles of a sick person #long live the queue #it was always queue #all queued up #connor holstrom #celestine #ember quinlan #randall silago #fury axtar #sabine fendyr #syrinx #chimera

[probablyhuntersmom]

The healing and lasting love of a mom

#for Mother's Day 2023 #camila noceda #hunter noceda #toh hunter #older hunter #toh waffles #the owl house #toh edits #loz's edits #loz's art #he's her lil' wolf cub forever #in the last pic he's fetching her to go for dinner at Dell and Gwen's house #like listen: she would've played a huge role in his recovery. after the Collector Palace scene he would've sunk into the darkest depression #in the weeks and many months to follow #she'd check his therapy progress. accompany him to therapy at times and fetch him from therapy too #he needed her warmth and guiding light as foundational building blocks. to be who he was after the timeskip #they'd both always remember that night where he drowned and she pulled him out of the water #she'd make sure he had the best possible Grom Night #and he'd be eternally grateful. they'd also work together throughout the years to follow since her expertise and his can overlap nicely #he keeps visiting the Human Realm now and then. to have movie nights..dinners..road trips etc with her and Luz and Vee #1k #2k #3k #4k #5k #8k #9k #10k #15k #20k

[stagefoureddiediaz]

Something something about Bucks downstairs bathroom and it representing his innermost and truest self - almost a representation of his heart.

Because the door to Bucks bathroom being open and the room lit blue when Tommy came over, both of them crossing in front of that doorway has got me thinking because the bathroom door was firmly closed when Eddie was at the loft in 7x05.

This did a couple of things, it removed the blue light from the space so it was overwhelmingly yellow. But it also closed of a part of Bucks loft, metaphorically closing off a part of Buck.

I’m not 100% sure but I’m pretty sure we’ve only ever seen that door closed or very slightly ajar (I think when Taylor was around we saw it ajar - I’m going to have to go rewatch to be categorically sure) before now, the one big exception being when Buck was in that bathroom putting on a bullet proof vest in 4x14.

The other aspect is that Bucks bathroom has a glass door - and we all know about Buck and glass doors. Buck has metaphorically opened the glass door to his inner most self to Tommy, but he’s not able to do that for Eddie.

Because this isn’t about coming out, this is about opening up to the possibility of love and being loved in return - in a romantic sense.

If I’m right about the door being ajar around Taylor (not always but at certain points) this shows he was still somewhat closed off - he was open, but not all the way. He went into that room - into his innermost heart - when Eddie was injured - and put on a bullet proof vest - protecting his heart (and don’t get me started on that artwork about shouting at the top of your voice that is now also at the diaz house).

And now the door was fully opened when he had his first queer kiss - Buck being open to possibility- but firmly shut when he comes out to Eddie.

Something something about it no ring shut to Eddie, because he’s not ready to open the door to the possibility of Eddie yet (Eddie is also not available at the moment). But I think when he is and when Eddie is also ready or nearly ready, we’ll see that door open again when Eddie is in the loft.

#I will ascend to an astral plane if we see Eddie use/ go into that bathroom because the symbolism of him being in Bucks heart will end me #and this isn’t even touching on the fact that bathrooms are water based rooms - it is where most of the water sources in a house are located #and it was lit blue - like water - #buddie and water #this show makes me feral #so many layers and metaphors #911 spoilers #is it spoilers - who knows - tagging just in case #911 abc #evan buckley #eddie diaz #buddie #tommy kinard

[fallen-goldfishcracker]

this man. has Abomination themed pajamas. the absolute confidence. the style.

he literally found his niche and stayed in it. good for him.

#I am in love with this man #The Hunter fan to Darius fan pipeline is a straight up high speed water slide #my favorite cringe fail girlboss #I have so many thoughts about him #part 2 of: fallen hyperfixating on a silly little man with 2 minutes of screen time #Listen I- #the owl house #darius deamonne #toh darius #owl house #No joke I honest to heavens love his style #It's purple! What's not to love #he is serving

[shallyne]

If there isn't a Mermaid on the next cover for Tharions little mermaid retelling istg

#crescent city 3 #crescent city 2 #crescent city #tharion ketos #House of earth and blood #house of sky and breath #House of Many waters #Tharion #sjmaas #sjm #sarah maas #sarah j maas

[khaopybara]

it has been stipulated that from now on, microphones are only allowed if you intend to stir up drama. no more singing and declarations of love. microphones are for the bitches and the bitches only

#ofts #ray pakorn #khaotung thanawat #tbh i'm not a hater of singing and guitars in thai dramas #mainly because i'm new in this house so despite watching many shows i haven't been exposed to it for years like some of you #but i think it's valid that we give the microphone and the guitar a wider range than just romance #just like next episode we'll get a scene in the water that isn't at all friendly #give things a new meaning #th: only friends

[apiculturegal]

part 7 of selkie!au sketches!!

i’m gonna color these… eventually….

#toh #the owl house #toh spoilers #art #toh fanart #fanart #huntlow #my art #digital art #toh hunter #willow park #huntlow selkie au #selkie!willow park #changeling!hunter #toh fae au #part 7 #there’s gotta be so many sketches at this point #i need to figure out the hyperlink thing eventually god #shallow waters

[strawberrybyers]

one thing the asoiaf/got/hotd fandoms are going to do is completely miss the point of the story being told; the complexities of the characters; the imprisonment of the monarchy, classism, intergenerational trauma, bloodlines, and misogyny.

somehow millions of people love the shows and books and yet, cannot for the life of them be able to figure out why the characters maneuver the way they do. it’s being highlighted again just how much the mark is missed within the fandom based on how alicent and rhaenyra are talked about. sure, have your takes. dislike one, love the other. but the character analysis that follows with the reasoning as to why you feel the way you do about a character (especially the female characters) seems to sometimes lack the actual context that is given.

look at how women are treated. look at the ages of the characters. look at how everyone is just a pawn in someone’s game. look at the relationships amongst the families. look at how literally a fucking title and iron throne can control someone’s values because that’s what they’ve been taught is priority.

once again: nothing wrong with having different perspectives on the characters, but for the love of god, please look at the dynamics of the environment these characters are in and ask yourself: well, how could they respond to this in this way if they’ve never been taught anything different?? what other options do they have if they’ve never been given them?? if they are aware of other choices— how can they release themselves from the shackles they were born into when everyone else around them either supports it or is nonchalant because “it’s the way things are”. how can you expect a lone wolf to go into a room of armed hunters and beg to be spared?? ask yourselves these things, then maybe you’ll finally understand why alicent is who she is and why rhaenyra is who she is.

#rhaenicent #rhaenyra targaryen #alicent hightower #rhaenyra x alicent #alicent x rhaenyra #house of the dragon #hotd #asoiaf #i just feel like these characters are written intricately and to see them be watered down to “bad’ vs ‘good’ is a bit frustrating #i know it’s just fiction so like really who cares?? but i think it’s more of the fact so many ppl watch the show but aren’t processing what #they’re witnessing outside of ‘bad’ vs ‘good’ which leads to them having a completely different story in their head compared to what’s #actually being told

[bryceandhunt]

Hey, this is Tharion, if you can’t get me, send an otter

World’s cutest voicemail greeting

#tharion #hoeab otters #captain tharion #hosab #house of sky and breath #crescent city #Crescent City Series #crescent city house of sky and breath #cc hosab #hoeab #house of earth and blood #jana reads hosab #sarah j. maas #sjmaas #sjm #maas trash #queen maas #sarah j maas #house of many waters