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#he should be able to express himself in a positive outlet if thats the case
dove-tears · 1 year
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made this to spite the isaac subreddit specifically
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gg-astrology · 5 years
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Jimin Season ASKS:  ‘Jealousy’ ‘Possessive’ ‘Clingy’ ?
Hey there! 💕 I got a few asks recently about Jimin, with regards to him being jealous/possessive/clingy. So I figured since I might as well talk about it 💕
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Jimin Season Masterlist
*Note: This is my own interpretation/experience with the signs involved, please keep that in mind and view with your own discretion! 💓 Some differences in perspective/opinions might occur and thats cool too! 💓
So thank you for sending the asks in:
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First let’s talk about his Libra and Scorpios.
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We always joke about Jeon not liking to lose (and Tae because he gets really fired-up about it) but Jimin doesn’t like losing either.
With Jimin, he doesn’t like losing (Libra Sun)-- but he’s willing to compromise. 
If it looks like the bigger picture is going into turmoil (i.e. if someone else is more ‘reactive’ about losing than he is) and is making a big deal out of it, he’s capable of shifting his position into a more mediative role immediately (emotionally, he might just suppress it temporarily to get the job done).
He also thinks a lot about how to say what he wants to say (before he does something-- Libra Mercury, can be a little hesitant but wants to have the best intentions/fair) and he doesn’t like his intentions being misunderstood (Libra/Scorpio) 
So if someone dismiss/doesn’t really get that he’s trying to care/look out for them he may become more frustrated and verbally pour it out afterwards (Libra/Gemini -- especially Gemini Moon, can just let out a string of self-expression about their frustration and then leaves it at that).
With Jimin, it’s more about setting precautions (loosely, like ‘I don’t think you should do that..’) but if it’s not listened to/appreciated properly his frustration/irritation can flare quickly as well 
(Gemini fueled by Scorpio/Libra’s indignation. However, he can also keeps it in until it’s a more private setting/he’s pushed to say it-- Scorpio)
It’s mostly about being listened to, and appreciated that he cares for others deeply that makes the direct effect of being dismissed/by passed something of a frustration to him. (Gemini- >Scorpio->Libra-- not being able to create a harmonious relationship with someone, based on something tactical error like miscommunication/mis-interpretation of his intensions.)
If someone misunderstood his intentions (caring for others) and gets really confrontational to him about it --- he can struggle with trying to re-think how he should approach/communicate with others to make them see his real intentions (good intentions/where he’s coming from/taking on a mediative role immediately instead of lashing back, because he wants to clear up the problem and not like, cause it. This is different depending on context though.)
Thus, the possessiveness part is more like a precaution thing. Like not wanting people he cares about to get hurt/be hurt by others (Scorpio).
He has to tell them somehow if he wants to be fair/think himself as a good person (Libra-- not telling them/having a back-up plan wasn’t an option).
Because he is much more perceptive than other people realize/get things pretty thoroughly. He tends to look out for others and warn them-- which is the cause of the problem sometimes.
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As for the clinginess, it’s more about needing stimuli if we’re looking at his Moon (Gemini-- and his hella Libra). Those he’s close to he’s a lot more liberal about wanting attention/asking for it from them. 
He’s much more communicative and enjoys being around people, therefore with people he cares about he’s not so afraid of watching himself/holding himself back from asking for certain responses sometimes.
With those he’s not close to-- again, going back to the ‘thinking about what he wants to say/how to say’ part -- he tends to be cautious of how other people might misconstrued his intentions towards them. 
Most likely he doesn’t want to make it seem like something it’s not, or that he’s intruding on them. (Again, making his intensions clear part to avoid mis-interpretations.)
The clinginess part only extends to those he knows won’t misinterpret his intentions, he’s not naturally a clingy person he’s just responsive to those he trusts/getting stimuli from social relationships that he cares for.
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I think some part of the ‘possessive/clingy’ narrative is an over-emphasis on Libra’s ‘romantic/relationship’ nature (associated with being Venus-ruled)-- which focuses on their ‘romantic relationship’ statues and the idea that ‘they have to be in a relationship all the time’.
Libra doesn’t trust easily, especially with their inner thoughts/depth. Scorpio gets a reputation for being ‘possessive’ but don’t they have a good reason to be suspicious of others with all that they can tell/see into their depth (perceptive/analytical/emotionally connective/intuitive)?
I honestly think he’s only possessive towards those he cares for and wants to look out for. His intentions aren’t to hinder them, it was more to warn them. His emotionality may be deep, but it isn’t something he trusts/burden others with easily (with a good conscious) most of the time.
With Jimin, he’s far more self-sufficient than we give him credit for. If he has a problem, he tries to work through it on his own before he relies on other people/let others know about it. The majority of the push-work comes from him, not from others.
Thus, his ‘dependency on relationship’ isn’t because he can’t handle his own emotionality/depth, his relationships are more like a source of joy/outlet for him to ‘refresh’ himself.
I also think he’s a lot more-- his social relationships are those he trusts/cares about. It doesn’t have to be romantic. There’s different levels of ‘trusts’ you can have towards others. You can see the way he treats the members that he gains energy from them because he cares for them (and this is itself, if he ever needs it, ‘fulfills’ the Libra’s ‘need’ somewhat).
Social relationships can be broader than just romantic or sexual,  the gratification from having a ‘successful’ relationship with someone doesn’t have to be romantic in nature.
It’s just as fulfilling to have intimacy/close-bond to someone you’re not attracted to to fulfill your needs/time of needs if you learn how to appreciate it.  
Being a Libra doesn’t point immediately to someone who is always looking for romantic relationships. Some Libras are shy, some don’t think they’re ready. 
(*In Jimin’s case, whether or not he’s in a romantic/personal relationship isn’t our business to make assumption like ‘oh he’s that kind of person who can’t live without a relationship’ or ‘oh he’s probably really really possessive and intimate with his partner because he’s a Scorpio’--- please make that clear!!! It CAN be damaging to the person so please don’t do that to them!) 
The one thing they are (that other signs aren’t) is being open about their inner desires to form bonds to others. It’s not about the mass or certain groups of people, it’s personal one-on-one relationships.  
They’re known for being somewhat picky for a reason. They don’t let others in easily unless they have time/not rushed into working through things at their own pace. At the same time, they know that every relationship will have an impact on the human person. 
Therefore, thinking/wanting any kind of personal relationships shouldn’t be something they should hide/suppress if they realize how important it is to basic human needs/desires.
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And about ‘jealousy’-- the term itself is pretty broad, because ‘jealousy’ can work in a lot of different context. Some people have envy, some from greed. They all stem from a ‘feeling’ of comparing the self to others/desire somehow (loosely defined, there’s obviously more to it than just that but!! for now!! let’s touch on it with this first).
But if we’re looking at Jimin, jealousy is more to do with himself. 
Towards others, he’s not a ‘jealous’ person. If he did feel some kind of’ ‘jealousy’ -- it’s more like a mild admittance that he’s bad at something and the majority of the feeling is driven inwards towards self-improvement instead.
This isn’t about romantic relationships btw just in the context of himself, like I said he’s not jealous of others. If we’re talking about ‘oh but does he feel insecure when compared to others?’ -- yeah but everyone does? The main point is that it’s just like ‘oh you’re really good at that, im bad at it. I want to be good at it too.’
It’s not like--- imposing himself onto others because he’s insecure/jealous, if we’re contextualizing it to ‘possessiveness/clinginess’ (and ‘romantic relationships’)
I think most of the time people might think possessiveness stems from insecurity and clinginess is just the effect of being possessive of someone. 
It’s not.
Especially in Jimin’s case, possessiveness is a precaution (*looking out for others/not being misunderstood) and clinginess is conditional (*restricted to those he layers/lets in)
Jealousy, then. Is more about comparing himself to others but not emotionally exploding on them (again, doesn’t want to ‘burden’ others)--but rather admitting to them that ‘oh i want to improve on that because I’m bad at it’
 The energy (heavy-load emotionality) is more driven towards goal-setting, or actualizing the self into achieving that goal/over-coming that goal. (Scorpio Venus)
Because his Scorpio is in Venus, he notices things about others and the comparison thing sometimes can’t be helped. 
But the core of the energy is self-transformation/improvement. Not about ‘dragging the other down/controlling their movement’ -- but rather ‘pushing the self to overcome/accelerate to the pace that they should be’ (Scorpio)
Jealousy is more like a mild motivation for his self-improvement, not a controlling factor on how he should ‘possess’/exercise control over others.
Honestly, the signs aren’t one dimensional. Seeing the word ‘Scorpio’ and ‘Libra’ becomes keywords into ‘possessiveness’ and ‘clingy’.  But it’s not like that. People are more than that. 
They have so much more control over themselves and so many challenges they may have already overcame. They’ll continue to overcome challenges, continue to discover/learn more about themselves. 
See people for people. Especially with people who has signs that gets ‘bad reputations’ for something. They aren’t their signs because the signs become ‘keywords’ for something else. They’re them, and they’re way more complex that what we ‘know’ about them too.
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I hope this soothes you worries somehow! And I hope this clears some ideas about Libra/Scorpio as well!! 💓Thanks for asking!! 💓💓  
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