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So with the confirmation that Venti is going to be at the Lantern Rite, Venti has officially traveled to both Inazuma (Irodori Festival) and Liyue during an event (as if to brush off an archon’s appearance in a foreign country) after the death of the original Seven.
And I’m going to make a somewhat wild guess that we’ll see Venti at a Sumeru event in the near (I hope) future.
Because at Irodori, Venti had that weird hush hush conversation with Yae Miko, and this is a big deal because it was a required part of the quest you had to see even though your conversation with them was just acknowledging it and moving on.
In (I think) Zhongli’s lines, it’s confirmed that the new archons do not meet like how the original Seven did.
And now Venti will—hopefully—be seen with Zhongli in this Lantern Rite, and possibly even Xiao, the right hand to Zhongli.
I’m suspecting that these are the hints to endgame, that Venti is going around either discussing a plan or giving out information he alone holds to the archons he gets along with… for the most part.
What he knows or is plotting, asking, or figuring out is a mystery to me, but I think Yae Miko and Venti’s conversation might be directly related to Venti traveling around the nations now.
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gierosajie · 17 days
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Realizing some things from speculation
Venti as part of the Thousand Winds, which are Istaroth
Zhongli with his corpse
My speculation of Ei splitting off from Makoto like a branching lightning bolt
Nahida literally branching from Rukkhadevata
Focalors splitting her humanity into Furina
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Unpopular opinion:
Dottore would have made a better main villain than the Tsarista. We've seen his capabilities more and know more about him (and the harbingers) than we do her, and we've made it to 5 of the 7 regions.
She's barely been mentioned, let alone been established as a threat. Compared to Dottore who has:
made clones of himself
caused major damages in Mondstadt (diluc, the knights, collei) just from the comic alone
was the entire driving force of the Sumeru questline
and even orchestrated the downfall of Inazuma just by tormenting some puppet then turned said puppet into a god
Needless to say, unless Hoyo has some big plans for Pierro or the Tsarista, I don't think they'll be nearly as threatening as The Doctor.
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cefalodankovsky · 9 months
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Kaeya's story would have a pretty big plothole if he's telling the truth (Or in other words why Kaeya is probably lying his ass off) An analysis.
Major spoilers for caribert and Kaeya's character story.
Addendum : This is mostly for fun and to explore Kaeya's character and interactions, I'm not God, I can be wrong about things.
Important things are marked in orange and specific commentary on some elements of text is marked in purple.
Also while I do believe Kaeya is lying in Caribert and is generally an unreliable narrator, if you believe otherwise and can still make sense of his story please tell me, I would like to know other points of view or things I might have missed.
It is first said in Kaeya's vision story, he fought with diluc the day his father died. The reason why is quite simple, he told Diluc he was an agent (or pawn, depending on the nuance of the translation) planted by Khaenri'ah to serve their interests (and by the wording of the text, he had an idea of what the "ancient plot" meant). He comes clean and then fights Diluc as "his true self".
There was a side to Kaeya that he kept hidden from the world: In truth, he was an agent of Khaenri'ah, placed in Mondstadt to serve their interests. His father had abandoned him in this strange and unknown land to fulfill this mission, and it was Master Crepus and the city of Mondstadt that had welcomed him with open arms when they found him.
If Khaenri'ah and Mondstadt went to war, which side should he support? To whom should he offer his assistance: his birth father, who had ruthlessly abandoned him? Or his adoptive father, who had loved him and raised him?-
Quite a dramatic thought, makes it sound as if his mission will inevitably end in a war between the both of them, partly backed by Mona's voiceline
As a brother, he should have shared in Diluc's grief, and yet as their father lay dying on the ground, he had hung back behind his brother, that ancient plot running through his mind.
The use of that ancient plot instead of the ancient plot, or an ancient plot. makes it sound as if there are multiple ancient plots he is aware about, perhaps not the actual intended meaning but it's a fun thought, like how many ancient plots is Khaenri'ah directly involved in??? (probably a lot)
Consumed by guilt, Kaeya knocked on Diluc's door. As the rain poured down, the shroud of secrecy was washed away and all lies were revealed. Kaeya had finally come clean.
This is all fine and makes sense, Diluc feels betrayed and out of anger and residual sadness from his father's death, and strikes against someone he considered a brother, this causes a big rift between them and is a focal point in their relationship. Let's see how this character story is contradicted by the Caribert story quest, probably on purpose.
In Caribert Kaeya claims his father sent him to mondstadt to perhaps find happiness.
Kaeya: My life had less and less to do with Khaenri'ah as I grew up, and so I started caring less as well.
Kaeya: I used to believe that I had inherited some sort of duty from my father..
Kaeya: But then I began to wonder... Maybe my father left me in the peaceful land of Mondstadt for no other reason than simply to give me a happier life...
Then he didn't ruthlessly abandon him or send him to mondstadt to fulfill Khaenri'ah's goals, which contradicts everything previously established.
Kaeya: A happy life sounds good to me, of course. Even if it means being cut off from... certain things.
He sounds unsure, it's unclear If he wants to be cut off or not from those certain things, but what is he talking about?, If he doesn't know about the Alberich's involvement in the abyss order then what is he being cut off of according to him?.
It is implied Kaeya is just sugar-coating things, partly out of denial, partly out of a need to not reveal all his cards to the traveller, so I'm not going too in-depth with this section individually, as I believe it to be a clear cut lie in story.
And then the conversation with Dainsleif happens, and things get even messier.
Dainsleif: Tell me... what do you know about the significance of that name, "Alberich"?
Kaeya: Ah, you've decided to join us? I was wondering how long you planned on listening in. I believe I've seen you before in Mondstadt... Dainsleif, if I'm not mistaken?
Nice deflection buddy, almost as if he knows that If Dainsleif continues with that line of thought then some uncomfortable things will be revealed
Dainsleif: So you remember me (was he in Mondstadt to stalk Kaeya?). Then we are already acquainted, Kaeya Alberich... descendant of the Abyss Order's founder.
This means two things, first while the abyss is older than Khaenri'ah, the abyss order is a direct product of it, the sinners that are all that's left of Khaenri'ah according to Kaeya?
Kaeya: ...
Traveller: The Abyss Order...?
Paimon: What!?
Dainsleif: I take it that you weren't aware of this until now, Kaeya, or you wouldn't have been so forthcoming with your surname.
This is the part that always fucks me up, it makes a point for Kaeya being unaware of the implications of his surname, but also if Kaeya is telling the truth about not knowing anything about his father's motivation or goals for leaving him in Mondstadt, then what is his character story talking about, what the hell did he tell Diluc.
Do the character stories have information the character in story doesn't?, who's narrating the stories then?, Are they impartial?, are those kaeya's thoughts about his father's motivation?, Because that also contradicts what he says in Caribert. Or did he think his father was just working for Khaenri'ah which in his mind was a completely different thing from the Abyss order???, Then why did he have suspicious information explicitly from the abyss order like the title of the leader?, Which no other character apart from Dainsleif has (who would obviously know that)
I generally just take this as Dainsleif taunting Kaeya and trying to make him fall into a trap, because it makes the most sense.
Kaeya: Oh, my... that's quite a lot of baggage for a surname, isn't it? Though I must say, it does confirm an old suspicion of mine. I suppose that was why my father left me in Mondstadt after all... (How does that confirm anything, How does it improve your understanding of the ancient plot your father sent you to fulfill, in text it is said he was aware of the mission and was an agent or pawn, you already knew why your father left you)
Dainsleif: I'm surprised that you take me at my word without the faintest hint of skepticism... (Aka why are you lying you obviously knew this)
Kaeya: Well, perhaps what you told me just happens to answer some questions I carry in my memories. And, in any case... I recognize your eyes...(nice change of topic)
Okay the nicest interpretation I can give is maybe he knew his father was part of the abyss order but not that he was the descendant of the creator of the abyss order, but then what is the ancient plot he was sent to complete and why him?
Kaeya: You're a pure-blood Khaenri'ahn, aren't you?
I'm not even going to get into the, is Kaeya a full blooded Khaenriahn? thing or not because frankly I lack the information of the traits of a full blooded Khaenriahn. And in the best case scenario it just gives extra information on his mission.
Dainsleif: Very clever. (Thanks Dainsleif for actually being concise, even if you are most definitely hiding shit as well) Forgive me for being direct, but I sincerely hope this new knowledge doesn't change anything. If you've already let go of your ties to the past... then keep it that way.
This is just a barely hidden threat, if it's a don't get involved threat or keeping up the charade and clearly stating you are against the abyss order threat, is left up to interpretation
Paimon: Kaeya... You're not involved with the Abyss Order in any way, are you...?
Kaeya: Hey, hold on now. This conversation has taken a rather sudden turn for the deadly serious... and I'm afraid that as someone from Mondstadt, I'm not accustomed to this sort of atmosphere...
Deflection again, and identifies himself as someone from Mondstadt which in this conversation is also a double way of saying, I'm not a threat.
Kaeya: So what if I know my ancestry? Do I strike you as the type who would be bound by that kind of thing?
He changes his position again, "well even If I knew I wouldn't do anything for the Abyss order", which is weird because even by the kindest of interpretations he is terribly conflicted (Mona's voiceline, His character story, the fact this conversation is taking place to begin with)
Kaeya: Relax. I'll be just as delighted to hunt down the Abyss Order tomorrow as I have always been.
And how delighted are you, really?, And does this really make no change to you, almost as if you already took this into account?.
Traveler option 1: I trust you, Kaeya.
Traveler option 2:I think... I guess.
The real problem with the Idea that Kaeya is fully genuine about having no connections to Khaenri'ah or knowing about the Abyss order is that apart of all his info from his character story being wrong or unexplainable apart from the excuse of, well he had absolutely 0 context about anything , which would be strange especially for a character as Kaeya known for always having the upper hand info-wise. But that his fight with Diluc would make no sense. What did he tell Diluc?, That he was from Khaenri'ah and his father left him in Mondstadt to try to maybe make sure his son has a happy life far from the stress of Khaenri'ah (Stress like a mission or an ancient plot)?, How would that be a betrayal of any type, and how would that revelation show a hidden part of his true self?. If Kaeya knows nothing about this, then the emotional core of his story is ruined, because he would have never been conflicted when Crepus died, He would have no reason to be loyal to Khaenri'ah or the abyss order apart from his father being from Khaenri'ah, a father which abandoned him ruthlessly (or maybe not, who knows), The sinner's are all that's left of Khaenri'ah voiceline would just be meanspirited for no reason (because if those sinners were working for the abyss order, then it would make sense that he were critical of them), and His fight with Diluc would make no sense.
So in accordance to this, I believe Kaeya is lying about not being aware of the implications of his surname and the reason he was sent to mondstadt.
Thanks for reading if you have made it this far, and correct me if I'm wrong about something.
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abookgeekforlife · 1 year
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Windblume 3.5 spoiler warning. Theory
Now a theory I saw some people on twitter talking about made a bit of sense after looking into it myself. In relation to Dilucs mother or atleast a past Ragnvindr being a current or former member of the Hexenzirkel. Its not really much info on it and I don`t know how much I believe it myself (even tho I want it to be real) but It sounded like a fun theory
Now the biggest clue and what started this theory is a tea set that is seen in the windblume cutscene
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This tea set is the same or at least looks like the same tea set that is found on the long table in Dawn Winery and on the small fireplace table
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Now this might just be a coincidence and this tea set just happens to be a common motif in Teyvat. But it is does sound like a cool theory. We also dont know anything about Diluc`s mother.
To add a bit to this argument I want to talk a bit about the 8 pointed star in the beginning of the cutscene
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This is really similar to the compass rose that are used in compasses. And it is probably on purpose (in addition to it showing 8 hexenzirkle members) Now this is probably just copium on my part put this same symbol is found on Dilucs vest in the webtoon
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Again, this might not be related to hexenzirkle at all, it is a common symbol, but could be something anyway.
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poorgay · 6 months
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im loosing my shit man
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polrification · 10 months
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getting this out before I am proven right. contains leaks.
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vaultureculture · 2 years
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all the sumeru characters with the exception of Collei are racist stereotypes and WHITE as fuck. This is appalling considering how well Genshin had done with the other regions so far. I hope to god they fix this before it's released, with the amount of people (myself included) complaining about it.
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archaic-lord · 1 year
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Of Dust and Flowers, The Seelies Who Survived
Preface
To give some context on this theory, this idea sprang to mind when I came across a twitter post sharing an entry from Honey Hunter World detailing an unreleased 4th volume to the "Customs of Liyue" book. The volume in particular talks about Glaze Lilies in a historical and cultural context. The information presented within made me think of this theory:
"Could Guizhong have been a Seelie?"
After doing some researching, I've come to conclude that it has a high likelihood of being true! So to explain this, I will discuss it in this order:
Guizhong and the Goddess of Flowers are of similar descent
Seelies and their similarities with the two
With that laid out, let's take a look at...
Part 1. Guizhong and the Flower Goddess
Firstly, let us establish who they were and what they did during their life.
Guizhong
The God of Dust, Guizhong, was one of the founding deities of Liyue. Originally, she took dominion over an area now known as the Guili Plains together with Morax. She was incredibly kind and wise, and took great interest in machinery.
During her reign, she taught the people under her protection how to live and survive. In particular, she taught them agriculture. She also had 4 wise tenets whom the people of the Guili Assembly followed:
"To unite in ambition is to be steadfast and immovable for all time."
"Wisdom is like water, it nourishes all those who receive it and in it is a reflection of the truth."
'"Fortify the bones, that movement be supple when the time comes."
"Virtue grows tall like a tree, though there be shade it will flourish forever"
Guizhong is heavily linked to Glaze Lilies, and seems to have been the one who created them! This is mentioned in the unreleased volume of "Customs of Liyue"
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Disclaimer: the photo above is unreleased content from the game. it's been at least a year since it was leaked, but they've not added it after all this time so please take it with a grain of salt.
"[Guizhong] released glittering blue seeds from her long sleeves, scattering them over the Guili Plains."
Here are other instances of Guizhong being linked to Glaze Lilies:
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The Goddess of Flowers
As of version 3.2, not much is known about the Goddess of Flowers yet. The specific details we do know are highly suspect however.
The Goddess of Flowers was one of the 3 wise God-Kings who co-founded Sumeru thousands of years ago. She was also the first among the 3 to die via unknown means.
She had several titles such as "Mistress of Dreams", "Lord of Flowers", "Mistress of Dreams and Oases". It seems that her abilities did not just stop at proliferating flora, she calmed people's minds and produced flowing water from her sleeves.
She and the Lord of Deserts established Ay-Khanoum, the city of Jinn and the Moon. Following her death, Ay-Khanoum dissolved into smaller societies.
She was also affiliated with the Padisarah flowers.
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The Connection
So now, to summarize the info, let's take a look at the similarities between Guizhong and the Goddess of Flowers! In essence, both of them were:
Gods who were known for their wisdom and gentle nature. They got along with 2 other god friends.
Gods who co-founded an ancient human society along with their god friends.
In possession of esoteric knowledge and guided mankind.
Both the first to die among their god friends, which was followed by a calamity that damaged their established civilization.
Associated with a flower that became rare or extinct following their deaths.
Seeing this now, it's very unlikely that their connections could be mere coincidence, no? After all, their stories went exactly the same save for a few variables like geography.
Hence, I'd like to propose that this is Hoyoverse telling us there's something about them that may be crucial. What struck me as odd about the unreleased volume were several moments that are only ever seen in the Sumeru!
Referring to Guizhong and Morax as "God-Kings"
A god proliferating a certain type of flower across a large area.
Suffice it to say, I think it was very intentional that Hoyoverse decided to remove this before we got any more proper Goddess of Flowers lore. I'm doing a minor prediction that we may come across this volume officially some time in the future.
So.. why try to connect Guizhong and the Goddess of Flowers? Well, this is important in proving Guizhong's origin as a Seelie, as we shall see in...
Part 2. Seelies and Such, Silly or Similarity?
Before we tackle the meat of this speculation, let's set up one last assumption to make our case. This assumption being:
"The Goddess of Flowers was a Seelie"
While it's only been teased at, it's been hinted quite enough to make it pretty much true.
Arama, during the Aranyaka storyline, mentions a survivor of the Seelie calamity befriending King Deshret and Rukkhadevata.
Nilou mentions her costume being based on the Goddess of Flowers' clothing. This includes a pair of horns that are also seen in Seelies.
The Goddess of Flowers is associated with the Moon. The 3 Moon Sisters were said to have lived alongside the Seelies.
So now, given the trail Hoyoverse has given to connect Guizhong and her, do we see such similar traits? As it turns out, yes!
Floral Resemblance
The first comparison I'll be making concerns the similarities with flowers.
Within the game, there is another flower that behaves and looks similar to the Glaze Lilies that Guizhong are linked to. This flower is the Nilotpala Lotus.
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Both flowers, aside from sharing the same color scheme, have the peculiar behavior of only blooming at night. In other words, when the Moon is out. The Nilotpala Lotus, in particular, was produced by the Moon Sisters as they stepped on the earth.
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So now, we've connected Guizhong and the Moon Sisters through parallels in their respective flowers. But this doesn't reflect the qualities seen in the Padisarah. Why not?
It's because haven't seen the real Padisarahs. The ones we encounter are just mimicries done by Rukkhadevata. This is similar to how Glaze Lilies are now almost exclusively cultivated in farms. The only reason they still live in their endangered state is due to Morax's influence.
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Seelie Service
Moving on, Guizhong also bears a striking resemblance to how Seelies guided humans. Simply, Seelies used their obscure knowledge to help mankind develop many things.
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This is eerily similar to Guizhong's actions, as well as her 4 philosophical commandments, no?
"To unite in ambition is to be steadfast and immovable for all time."
"Wisdom is like water, it nourishes all those who receive it and in it is a reflection of the truth."
'"Fortify the bones, that movement be supple when the time comes."
"Virtue grows tall like a tree, though there be shade it will flourish forever"
I think it's not strange to see how all of her tenets mention nature and complex concepts like time or truth to convey how to strengthen her people's bonds. Not to mention, it's mentioned repeatedly how beautiful Guizhong was.
With this in mind, I think it's safe to say Guizhong at least has done things similar to Seelies. Additionally, she is one of the only deities who have been shown to possess so many traits similar to them.
Now, Guizhong being associated closely with the Moon Sisters puts into question her status as "God of Dust". Why dust? To this, I introduce this piece of information found within Moonpiercer as well.
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I am also theorizing that, while Seelies may not be of the same lineage as the Moon Sisters, they posses traits that are found within them!
Titillating Titles & More Similarities
Let's use the Goddess of Flowers as an example. We know that she is not simply just a Flower Goddess. Ironically, it seems as though producing flowers is just something she happened to also do. Many descriptions of her focus on her ability to give dreams and produce water.
In other words, the titles they got as gods are merely one facet of their being, compared to other gods like Marchosius, Boreas, Decarabian, and even some of the archons.
Just as the Goddess of Flowers possesses traits found in the Moon Sisters (flowers, water, dreaming), Guizhong also exhibits these qualities (esoteric wisdom, agriculture, dust).
Something I forgot to mention is Volume 2 of 'Records of the Gallant'. In it, not only do we see Guizhong being mentioned, she is also depicted alongside Glaze Lilies, the starry sky, AND Seelies.
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Something I also just realized in the making of this theory is the mirrored descriptions of Guizhong and the Goddess of Flowers' appearances. One of these was the matter of sleeves.
They are the only gods to my knowledge to have ever used their sleeves as part of their powers. Guizhong sent forth Glaze Lily seeds from her sleeves, while the Goddess of Flowers poured fresh water from hers.
Also, the color of their clothing reference each other's flowers. Guizhong wears an indigo robe, which resembles the Padisarahs. The Goddess of Flowers, if Nilou's dress is to be trusted, wore blue and white clothes, resembling Glaze Lilies.
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Part 3. In Conclusion
Given how many elements about Guizhong matches the Moon Sisters, Seelies, and especially the Goddess of Flowers, it's incredibly hard to now just look at these examples as happenstance, ya know?
I originally researched this topic because of Guizhong and the Goddess of Flowers' parallels in sleeves, but the more I looked into it, the more apparent the parallels became.
From their wisdom to their flowers, it just makes too much sense for me!
So here's the scenario that I'm proposing to end this theory:
A long time ago, when the nation of the Seelies and Moon Sisters fell into ruin, many perished from the disaster. Despite this, a number of Seelies managed to survive. They descended upon the earth in different parts of Teyvat, some even in the area now called the Dark Sea.
Two of these Seelies, each of whom resembled the Moon Sisters in beauty and ability, landed far from each other. And though their stories would deviate in some ways, their fates aligned nonetheless.
She who wielded the irrational wisdom of dreams established a thriving nation in the scorching desert, and she who wielded the rational wisdom of technology did the same amidst the rocky landscape. When they perished, their nations would suffer tremendously.
One of their friends would mourn and change his personality drastically, and another would sacrifice themselves, reverting into a smaller, weaker form.
The flowers that they oh so cherished would almost be wiped away, but friendship gives way to preserving your legacy.
Part 4. Closing Remarks
If you, the one reading this right now, have managed to make it all the way to the end of the post, give yourself a pat on the back!
My name is Noxis, and this marks my first, official post on Tumblr! This is part of a personal project I'm doing to interact with the Genshin Community, and it also serves as my first time actually visiting Tumblr regularly!
If you did read all of this, please excuse my way of organizing and discussing as I'm pretty new to the platform. I'll be sure to learn along the way however, and with it more Genshin lore speculations and theories >:))
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prettybbychim · 2 months
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oh im so excited to get confirmation on arlecchino's constellation/symbol
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i've seen it as common census that she is the third symbol on the right side, but i could argue that it could be pantalone instead
from the left side counter clockwise, these are my thoughts including further explanation
plague doctor mask - dottore
heresy symbol - pulcinella/capitano/pantalone (tentative)
jester mask - pierro
shaman's/healer's hand - capitano (tentative)
marionette - sandrone
narwhal - childe
crystalfly - signora
doll - scaramouche
hand holding an object - pantalone/arlecchino (tentative)
weeping dove - columbina
crucifixion nails - arlecchino/capitano (tentative)
color code: green - pretty damn confident, blue - confirmed, red - confusion
to begin, heresy is roughly defined as a belief or opinion that is contrary/unacceptable by religious doctrine, or public / official opinion.
about pulcinella from commedia dell'arte, its said "he almost always appears in contradiction." however, following that line of thought, capitano always fits the bill. "when the turks seem to be winning, he will join them. when they are driven off, he will change sides again and boast about his loyalty and bravery."
about putting capitano as the shaman's hand and/or the crucifixion nails, it's more of a vibe than anything lol putting him on heresy was only because of his counterpart's description in the play, nothing else. i have no evidence of anything. i am not ashamed. natlan pls come soon i need this man
about arlecchino as the crucifixion nails, my initial thought process also had to do with the play. arlecchino is also known as harlequin. the name harlequin came from another story about a "demon" or "devil." as i'm typing this now, i realize this does not make a lot of sense because the nails have to do with the crucifixion of jesus christ and big JC is not a demon. but he's the antithesis of them so i mean, idk
onto the ninth symbol - it appears to be a hand gripping an object. on first glance, i thought it was a vial, such as the ones used for the essential oils in game.
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however, it could also be an artistic rendition of a heart. this would be a direct reference to the pale flame set, in particular the sands piece, where it talks about pantalone's backstory. "the center of the world is a heart made of gold. [...] when the moment comes, that heart shall cease beating by our will alone."
considering that constellations are tied to one's fate, as a human man without a vision, his constellation could replicate that.
however, pantalone also tracks with the heresy symbol. as its speculated he's from liyue, his goals for teyvat's flow of money and currency as a whole, it would be considered heresy against his homeland's archon - rex lapis. (side note: i will do anything to see an interaction between the two of them)
primarily, i have seen this symbol speculated to be arlecchino's due to the appearance of the hand and the state of her own hands. what i have not seen is any further explanation on the decision. now, say it is an alchemy bottle: flaming essential oil = house of the hearth ? the house is in the palm of her hand etc etc i'm just not entirely convinced on that one either.
i'm not entirely convinced on any of these four. we have next to no information on capitano, and some bits on pulcinella, and a little bit more than that on pantalone...all this to say, i am nowhere closer to an answer than i was before.
there are a variety of ways i can see this being arranged but there's always one thing that does not align.
option 1: heresy (pantalone), healer's hand (pulcinella), hand gripping (arlecchino), nails (capitano) // how does pulcinella fit with that symbol?
option 2: heresy (pulcinella), healer's hand (capitano), hand gripping (pantalone), nails (arlecchino), // how does capitano fit?
or alternatively, option 3, same as before but: nails (capitano) and healer's hand (arlecchino) // how do either of them fit? besides vibes
and finally, option 4: heresy (capitano), healer's hand (arlecchino/pulcinella), hand gripping (pantalone) // how do they fit with those? and who goes with which one?
in conclusion, i do not know. huzzah !! i might have confused myself even more than i was before starting this post, but that's okay because maybe it'll help you understand why i so desperately want arlecchino's constellation confirmed
slurping up the harbinger crumbs
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One thing that always strikes me as interesting about Venti’s battle lines is the playful attitude he has until his low HP lines kick in.
Like he has lines like
“Think you can get away?”
“Let’s play!”
Like it’s just a competitive, childish game.
Then Low HP kicks in and it’s:
“Ugh, I’m not in the mood for this!”
It’s gives this very slight insight into a serious Venti where we don’t usually see one.
On the very edge of anger and frustration.
He’s got just a lower tone that’s a bit more desperate, and it strikes me as fascinating because I want to see this Venti in battle.
But it also kind of proves the headcanons that Venti is terrifying in battle because he’s always smiling through it and making jokes as if it’s… child’s play.
It’s almost like Childe how he “enjoys” the fight, but it’s more that Venti’s not taking it seriously until he’s in danger, and Childe is taking it seriously the whole time because he wants a challenge (and taunts when it’s not a challenge).
Just an interesting thing to think about when considering the Fatui vs an old archon.
Fatui live for the challenge, for backing the enemy into a corner, for taking them off guard while Venti knows his power until his power fails him.
And I don’t even think Venti is overly confident, either.
Venti’s attitude is different from Zhongli’s, who does take the fight seriously from the start, but it’s more that Venti relies on his ability to be underestimated (his way of speech is extremely teasing/lighthearted) in order to take enemies off guard as well.
When his words don’t work, then it becomes an issue. When his power is failing, it becomes an issue.
His playful front disappears.
You could say it returns in death when he makes his own “falling” sound, but I feel like it’s a quip at himself more than anything. He makes the sound to poke fun at his death, at his failure to hold his own in a battle.
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Back to this post I made a while back
Spoilers under the cut for quests 2.0 through 3.0 (aka: Inazuma and Sumeru)
I wanted to point out the hypocrisy between how the game treated Scaramouche vs Ei
Starting with both of their crimes/behaviors
Ei
Abandoned her people
Allowed a war
Allowed for the Fatui to influence her nation (knowingly)
Let her puppet take away what willingly belonged to her people
Killed her people
Oppressed her people
Isolating her country
Etc.
Scaramouche
Arson
Murder
Genocide
Homicide
Attempted coup
Terrorism
Smuggling
etc.
Obviously they've both done terrible things, Scaramouche's being based almost entirely on murder and genocide while Ei was based mostly on negligence (knowingly committing negligence when in a position of power too).
But the issue I have is how the Traveler (and subsequentially, the game) treats them after revealing their resonings.
First, the reasoning
Ei
Loss of family
Depression
Grief
Poor mental state
Loss of friends
Scaramouche
Loss of family
Depression
Grief
Poor mental state
Loss of friends
Abandonment
As you can see, they both have fundamentally the same reasonings, while Scaramouche's poor actions mostly came from having a lack of understanding of how the world of humans work as well as poor role models....
...which stem from Ei's neglegence.
When confronted by the Traveler, Ei admits what she is feeling (even after knowingly trying to murder the traveler two times), she gets a meager slap on the wrist and a "don't do it again" seeing as how she has yet to actually apologize. I stopped playing in 4.0 so this could have changed.
Even after admitting to her faults and promising not to abandon her people, she does it again, and is not reprimanded. She never learned from her mistakes, never apologizes, and is even buddy-buddy with the traveler and is seen as a respectable figure despite her crimes.
Compare this to Scaramouche who is offered a job from Nahida, and is still treated as a criminal. This is understandable and he should be considering his previous actions. But when Traveler and Paimon find out why he did what he did, he is still met with hostility.
This never happened to Ei.
Only Scaramouche.
The only person who showed him any kind of sympathy was Nahida, probably because she understood what he went through.
Scaramouche even tries to amend his mistakes upon realizing them, albeit in a very self-destructive manner.
Ei never does. Sure, she repeals the Sakoku decree, but she never apologizes for stealing her people's visions, or for attacking anyone who went against the Shogun's orders, or disappearing, or for allowing a war, or for anything.
Scaramouche tried to erase himself, believing it would bring back the people he'd hurt. He shows more remorse in his actions then she does. And when his memories are returned, he says that he plans to tell Kazuha what happened, that Kazuha has a right to know.
Both committed terrible acts based on their feelings of abandonment, grief, and loss.
Only Scaramouche made any attempt to undo his mistakes and went out of his way to try and apologize.
Ei did not.
Tagging: @l4r1n3 and @stupidheadwisp because y'all asked. Enjoy the food.
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Just a little thingy for fun
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narcoticwriter · 3 months
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@blood-orange-juice You did ask, so I will answer to the best of my abilities and somewhat coherently. I've included links if you want to look at the stuff yourself!
So, Natlan is given to be based off of the Aztec civilizations and I reason this because of the Talking Stick lore and the person who wielded it, Tenoch. 'Tenoch' is based off of 'Tenochtitlan', the capital of the Aztec Empire.
Another reason that I'm leaning harder into the Aztec aspect of this theory is because of Neuvillette's official introduction quote, which was spoken by an 'Xbalanque' (a figure in Aztec mythology). Xbalanque was one of the 'Maya Hero Twins' in their mythology and since Aztec civilization and culture were inspired so much by the Classic Mayans that came before them, I will also be taking this into account.
I bring up the Maya Hero Twins specifically because Xbalanque has an older brother who goes by the name Hunahpu and they are the sons of Hun-Hunahpu. In their mythology, they go to seek out their father's decapitated head and their uncle's remains that are in the underworld, walking the same path they did. There is an incident where in Xibalba (the equivalent of the underworld), Hunahpu's head gets decapitated.
In the myth itself, Xbalanque uses trickery to get his brother's head back and it seems that Hunahpu was able to be brought back to life. Eventually, they retrieve the remains and not only go back to the surface but eventually ascend to godhood. Hunahpu becomes the sun and Xbalanque becomes the moon.
The way that I can tie this into Genshin lore-esque terms is rather simple in the sense that there are three major points to this possibly coming into play:
Genshin really, really likes twins or pairs of characters (Makoto and Ei, Nahida and Rukkhadevata, Furina and Focalors)
There have been examples of allogenes ascending to godhood before (Vennessa, Guhua)
The blatant Sun and Moon imagery and comparisons scattered throughout the lore (Spiral Abyss, Primordial One)
As to what this has to do with Capitano, I raise you this question:
Where's his head? Do we ever see it? No, we don't.
Also, note that Capitano is on his way to Natlan to get the gnosis from the Pyro Archon and that he's the First Harbinger. The strongest Harbinger. The Harbinger that can kill gods.
This one is a bit far-fetched, I will admit, but the fact that Xbalanque was namedropped so early into Natlan's eventual release, the fact that Capitano was mentioned as going to Natlan as far as 3.5 (Mika's lore), and that he has no face of which to speak of points to two theories of mine:
Capitano can either be Hunahpu or Hun-Hunahpu and if you take into the fact that Xibalba = underworld = (possibly) The Abyss, this can make for very, very interesting things concerning the plot down the line.
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Notes: While I'd be here writing a whole ass character dissertation for like 10+ characters each, I'll be briefly explaining the overarching theme of what the cards I pulled say for them. I won't be analyzing each card. I read Tarot as a story... in a way. So while some cards/spreads may indicate personality, it also (to me) read as either a lesson or personal journey the character has or will tackle. Hope that makes sense? Lol. If you're interested in learning more about how Tarot works, definitely research it! Every reader is different in their approach, but I just personally read cards intuitively and with a "story narrative." Rambling over lmao
Note x2: Information here will be analyzed using what we know from spoiler speculations (both from leaks and quests!!), in-game voicelines, lore, story quests, world quests, npc dialogue, and other official or unofficial sources.
**long post under the cut**
Furina: This gives heavy "I didn't ask for this" vibes. The spread reads as though... she was thrust into duties as an Archon after the prior one's death. I do believe she has good morals, a justice-value system, and wants to do the right thing (she's REALLY trying), but she's a people pleaser. She doubts her abilities and wants nothing more than her people's approval, no matter how grand or dramatic; she'll "perform" for them. She leads because she has to. The prior Archon is dead, she is now in charge. Furina definitely doesn't give her abilities or self enough credit, but the thing is: she's grossly unprepared to be a leader. She has a lot of "growing up" to do.
Neuvillette: (My husband). This is one spread that read like a story and we'll see how it holds up once his character story and more info about him comes out. He has a lot of emotion and a lot of naïve innocence to him, but unable to really show it. I do believe his past and present has been particularly rough for him in "fitting in" to human society *cough Hydro Sovereign cough.* However, this reads like he will be able to move past it and either accept how/who he is, find people to connect with, and let the past go. The Pentacles and Magician there are really just to show what we've already seen of him lmao: he's patient, hard-working, kind, and reliable.
Freminet: Ah yes, baby. Baby boy. He does NOT give himself enough credit. These are primarily positive Arcana cards so I'm of the belief that he has a support network, skills, and goals to really change his outlook around; yet he still remains a bit gloomy (understandably so, but still). Again, these are all pretty solid and stable cards but then *The Moon* shows up; when it's next to all these that tells me fails to see the good and abundance that's around him. He knows it's there, but is too deep in his insecurities and negative, traumatized mindset to fully see it.
Navia: My beloved (one of the prettiest character designs fr). So, she's definitely someone who is going to learn how to embrace her inner power and confidence. The spread tells me that her trauma (losing her father) and life setbacks has really taken a toll on her; it's more or less shaped how she is now. However, there's a lot of hope to the cards and I truly believe she's going to come out even stronger as the new leader of Spina di Rosula. She's very determined.
Clorinde: Definitely a very capable character. Possibly has a form of trauma/ptsd from her career as a champion duelist, and there's an overall vibe of sadness to these cards. She keeps a lot inside and fails to express things or rely on others. Very much a "I must carry this burden alone" character.
Wriothesley: Uhhh surprisingly a lot of rebellious vibe to this spread? Again I could be completely wrong, but what I interpreted was that he either is going against the status quo, will go against the status quo, or wants to go against the status quo. Whatever that entails. Something is holding him back though (The Devil card). Almost like... he has such strong morals that he questions how things are done and wants to do something about it to change it for the better. Expectations fall in this category, too. Perhaps people have expectations or a judgement formed of him already, yet he's the type to easily mingle with the inmates/guards/workers in the Fortress of Meropide. He's far kinder than his appearance may suggest.
Emilie: (The perfumer mentioned in voicelines) Very little is currently known about her, however, I could be totally wrong but: her spread reads as someone trapped. Almost as though she comes from a well-off family (maybe?) or a family who holds her to high and traditional expectations, yet she's a victim of circumstance. It definitely reads as unhappy Victorian-era daughter who has her life planned for her. Again, I could be totally wrong.
Arlecchino: She is a force to be reckoned with. Okay so, she gets what she wants. Periodt. Very capable of manipulating and pulling strings as she keeps her cards close to her chest. Hardly anyone knows the "real" her or her past and she's content to keep it that way.
Chiori: Also little is known about her aside from voicelines of her being a seamstress. Anyways, the energy of her spread is uh... a bit intense? Like she has a pretty forceful and headstrong vibe, for sure. Very confident, stubborn, and a natural-born leader, really.
Sigewinne: She is baby and I am adopting her /srs. Hmmm, she just seems like a happy-go-lucky kid/melusine/hybrid (?). A part of her might feel a bit isolated due to her Melusine heritage and appearance but otherwise her energy feels very hopeful and innocent.
Charlotte: Ah yes, no surprises but, based on just *how she is* as her energy, Charlotte is ridiculously determined to get what she wants. The difference being, it's all for her job. She holds journalism and reporting in such high regard that it's almost become second nature. It's preventing her from really "seeing" the "big picture" or properly connecting with others. Poor girl focuses on work way too much.
**these are all alleged and my speculation! I could be totally wrong about these as well lmao. Also, some of the cards just wouldn't give me anymore info than what I pulled, which happens sometimes. So, anyway, hope you enjoyed!**
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poorgay · 6 months
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4.2 speculation
trust. we will get a scene like this for the skirk childe reunion
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