#fuck bobby dagen

[zepp-l1n]

The Same

Pairing: Daniel Matthews x Fem!reader

summary: Daniel meets someone in the same boat as him at a "Jigsaw victim therapy group" session. fic type - hurt/comfort, post Saw 2, fluff?? warning - 2000s emo x 2000s emo, canon level Saw violence, both reader and Daniel have PTSD, mentions of past drug use, mentions of body scarring from the traps, self harm (??) word count - 1,779 a/n: hiiii! sorry my posting has been kinda off and on for the past few months, but I'm hoping now that school and my personal schedule is a little more chill, I'll be able to write and post more often. <3 (also, what's up with the lack of Daniel fics?)

Group therapy wasn't Daniel's idea. He knew he needed to talk about the things he had gone through and seen, which is why he had originally gone to one-on-one therapy, but when his therapist had suggested joining Bobby Dagen's group he had been very apprehensive. At first, Daniel had been very against the idea. He found Bobby very pretentious and overzealous, and the entire "Jigsaw victim therapy group" to be a scam for Bobby's fan's entertainment. For months his therapist and his mother brought up the group again and again, leading to Daniel finally deciding to go in the hopes of getting them to shut up about it.

Now, Daniel found himself in the room Bobby would rent out for each session. They were all sitting side by side in the formation of a circle, letting each person have a clear view of everyone else. Not one person in the room, other than bobby, looked elated to be there.

Daniel sat in his folded out seat, arms crossed and head turned downward. So far, the entire experience had been uncomfortable. Bobby had gone on one of his regularly scheduled "We should be grateful!" spiels, and multiple people had shared their sob-stories. For 30 minuets Daniel had to endure the same arguments and conversations over and over. He sat in silence, never once making himself known - choosing to sit and pick at his black, long-sleeved undershirt the entire time.

Daniel had been so focused on his own thoughts that when he finally glanced back up, he noticed all the eyes on him. "Daniel?" Bobby called out.

"Hmm?" his reply was short and uninterested.

"I asked if you would like to share your story with the others. Would you?" Bobby asked. The smile he gave Daniel as he spoke made him divert his eyes. Daniel shrugged, not knowing if he truly wanted to. "If you'd like to wait that's okay. Whenever you're ready, Daniel."

The other's diverted their attention to Luba afterwards, taking in her story. Daniel silently listened, just waiting for the session to be over. They continued this way, story after story, until the door swung open, creating a loud noise. In it's opening was a girl, presumably around Daniel's age from what he could see.

"Ah, (Y/N), nice of you to finally join us." Bobby sarcastically spoke.

The teen stepped into the room, waving at a man in the corner that Daniel hadn't noticed before, and continued towards the circle. The silver chain hanging from her belt loops lightly rattled against her black cargo-jeans as she walked his way. "Oh shut up, Bobby. Some of us have lives outside the whole Jigsaw shit." she scoffed, her eyeliner covered eyes glaring at the older man. The girl, (Y/N) as Daniel her Bobby call her, took a open seat a few chairs down from Daniel, giving him a tight-lipped smile and a wave of her ringed hand before turning towards the others.

"Now, now, (Y/N). There's no need for hostility here - we're all the same." Bobby cheerfully stated, causing the girl to roll her eyes. "Here, since you missed when everyone else did it, why don't you introduce yourself to out newest member. This is Daniel." his arm directed (Y/N)'s eyes to her fellow teen.

(Y/N)'s dark-red lips turned up into a forced smile before she spoke. "Hi, I'm (Y/N). I'm the girl who was found a week after a trap that wasn't even hers, half dead and tied to the mutilated corpse of her sister. Nice to meet you!" The smile dropped immediately after she finished her sentence.

"Sorry Daniel. Just ignore her. She's still a little apprehensive to be doing this." Daniel awkwardly nodded at Bobby's explanation. "Good, now why don't we continue..." Daniel couldn't focus on Bobby as he spoke - his attention was solely caught on (Y/N)'s appearance. On top of the jeans and chain, she also had a shirt similar to what he would usually wear. It was red and white, and he could tell it was showing some kind of band-logo, but he couldn't get a clear enough look to tell what band. Glancing down at his own white t-shirt, he caught similarities between the two, finally realizing who it was. "Wrath of the Gods." he whispered.

(Y/N)'s head lightly turned her head, seemingly asking him to repeat himself.

"Your shirt. It's 'Wrath of the Gods' - like mine." he lightly smiled. "You like them?"

She glances down, taking in her own shirt and then his. "Huh... Yeah, my sister, she uh, introduced me to their music a few years ago. This was her shirt actually; she gave me it when she got a new one before the trap."

"Sounds like she was pretty cool." Daniel muttered. By this point, (Y/N) had moved over a seat so they could talk without bothering any of the others.

She smiled before whispering back, "She was."

Now that she was closer, Daniel could see the scarring on her face, neck, arms, and hands. He couldn't help but wonder what she fully went through if that was the result of her trap. It also made him wonder if the same scarring would cascade down her legs and torso too. Did the scarring all look the same; how many were there; were some more gory than others? Hundreds of questions flew through his mind as he looked at her.

"How'd you get them?" Daniel didn't even register the fact that he had spoken.

"Huh?" (Y/N) whispered.

"Sorry, uh, your scars. If you don't mind me asking, how'd you get them? I mean, you don't have to tell me. Y'know, I don't want to cross any boundar-" Daniel's rant was cut off by (Y/N).

"It's fine, Daniel." she sighed, giving him a sad smile. "I got these during my sister's 'game'"

"Your sister's game?" Daniel asked, hoping she would clarify.

(Y/N) looked over at the others, making sure no one was bothered by their conversation, before continuing. "Yeah. My sister was the one being tested. It was my fault, but she was the one who got the consequences." she paused, taking a moment to fully think about how to explain her experience. "My parents died when I was little, and my sister had turned 18 a few weeks before they did. After that, she took me in; became my legal guardian, y'know. She was a nurse too, so a lot of the time I was either by myself or out with friends. When my friend Amy finally got her learners, we went out one evening and ended up in an accident. That led to me being on a shit-ton of pain meds, and eventually I got hooked. It was really bad. Jane, my sister, had access to a lot of pain medication, and I used that against her. I begged for weeks for her to steal me them. She, uh... She eventually couldn't take seeing me so bad, so she broke a lot of rules and brought me some. I guess Jigsaw found out, and he thought I was pulling her down. When he took us, his whole argument in the tape was that I was bad for her, and if she got rid of her baggage - me - then she'd be free and would go places in life. If she didn't get rid of me, she'd die." Once again, (Y/N) paused, collecting herself. "He had us tied together to this weird chair set up. It was on these rails, and in front of either of us were these things I could only describe as 'the open-faced turkey sandwich version of a woodchipper'. She was supposed to kill me - push me into mine. I begged and pleaded for her to just do it, cause, I mean, he was right. I was the only bad thing in her life. She would've been better off without me."

"If she died, and didn't want to hurt you, then how did you end up with all the scars?" Daniel quietly asked.

"I did it to myself." Daniel's eyes widened at how casually she said it. "She wouldn't push back and put me into the woodchipper, so I did it myself. I put my feet on the edges of the rails and pushed myself forwards into it. I got close enough to cut myself up a bit. I thought I was gonna save her." (Y/N)'s eyes began to water, and she quickly wiped it away. "Jane was always stronger than me, though. She pulled back and kept us at the midpoint. We were there when the timer went off. I guess it was motorized, cause when the timer went off, we moved backwards. Jane went straight into it. There was nothing I could do but sit there and listen to her screams. Jigsaw and his little groupies never came for me. I was supposed to die, so they left me there. For about a week I was strapped to the trap and what was left of my sister, out of it from blood loss, hunger, and dehydration. Some homeless guy eventually found everything and called the police."

"Wow..." Daniel muttered.

"Yeah, I know." (Y/N) hesitantly chuckled. "Since then I've been doing two sessions of regular therapy a week, this, and rehab."

As she finished her sentence, Bobby loudly spoke up. "Alright guys, today was great! It is time we wrap up though. I hope to see everyone again next week, and I hope you have a great rest of your week." The two teens watched as he walked back to the doorway of the room, stopping next to his wife, lawyer, bestfriend, and publicist.

"Well, I guess that's enough trauma dumping for today." (Y/N) glanced back over at Daniel. "Listen, uh, y'know, 'Wrath of the Gods' has a show this weekend. You should come, so we could hang out some more. To be honest, I need more friends who listen to music I like." she laughed.

Daniel grinned, "Yeah, why not?"

"Good, good." (Y/N) mumbled. "Listen, I gotta go, my foster dad picks me up from these things, but I'll see you this weekend."

"Yeah, yeah, see you later." he smiled. Daniel contently watched as she got up, and headed for the door.

As she got closer to the door, (Y/N) turned back around and waved at him. "Bye, Danny."

(Y/N) turned back around and exited, leaving Daniel to sit in the room alone, thinking over what had just happened. "Holy shit." he dramatically exhaled. Maybe coming to the "Jigsaw victim therapy group" wasn't that bad of an idea.

#reader insert #sawposting #saw franchise #saw movies #saw movies x reader #saw x reader #saw #daniel matthews #bobby dagen #daniel matthews x reader #erik knudsen #saw 2 #saw 3d #emo boy #2000s horror #daniel saw 2 #daniel saw 2 x reader #saw 2005 #fuck bobby dagen #i love emo boys

[walter-hotgirl-white]

im a little mad that the circle of silence was used in the third worst saw movie

#bruh it’s one of my fav saw traps #fuck you bobby dagen #i hate you bobby dagen #he ruined the whole movie #at least we had fun #sawposting #saw 3d #saw 7 #saw franchise #lawrence gordon #mark hoffman #bobby dagen

[littlebigplanet]

dying to know your thoughts on william easton 👀

i want to put him in a jar and shake it

#on a serious note i do think he is the best one-off protagonist of any of the movies #half his tests werent even really to teach him anything jigsaw just wanted to spite him which was really funny. and then he died SO badly #but like he seemed like he actually changed by the time he won his game (did he technically win it even though he died? i cant remember) #which automatically puts him ahead of like. a lot of other movie specific protags (looking at you jeff denlon) in that the jigsaw doctrine #actually worked on him. and he had an actual reason to be there that wasnt like. he was kinda depressed. or one of those people that were #an accessory to someone elses game. like remember bobby dagens wife. wasnt that fucked up #honestly saw 6 was a great movie in most ways but i do think easton shouldve lived. like he won his game n got the memo but they killed him #anyway for like. shock value or something #basically i like him :) #unrelated to easton but the shotgun carousel is the best trap in the whole series btw #🫀

[shittysawtraps]

almost made a post saying “i could survive a saw trap, i’m built different,” but then i remembered that bobby dagen said that and john’s reaction was to say “oh this’ll be so fucking funny” before calling him on his shit

#shitty saw traps #saw franchise #mod amanda #moral of the story: never try to out-jigsaw jigsaw #you’ll just have to hoist yourself up by your pecs even though your pecs can’t support your body weight

[mimicben]

Bobby Dagens Jigsaw survivor meeting is one of the goofiest things in the Saw series, so obviously I love it.

also apprentice Adam au btw, cuz I think the idea of Bobby unintentionally inviting not one, but TWO Jigsaw apprentices to said survivor meetings is hilarious. for no reason other than them rocking up and having no fucking clue who this man is, like, "hold on a goddamn minute- i don't remember putting YOUR ass in a trap, that's for damn sure"

#my art tag #saw #chainshipping #lawrence gordon #dr lawrence gordon #adam faulkner stanheight #saw adam #apprentice adam #saw movie #saw movies #saw franchise #saw posting #bobby dagen #saw art #saw fanart #jigsaw apprentices

[fate-motif]

list of saw characters criminally underdiscussed by fans

daniel rigg: one of the few actually likable cop protagonists in the franchise even though he has a penchant for police brutality more than once! because we see the one heroic (though detached from reality) facet of police work through him: his desire to save people from harm. the fact that hoffmann’s test for him is made to try and scrub what little humanity rigg has left for him to become the ultimate cop, ie jigsaw, by making him let go of the idea that people deserve to be saved? poetic. strahm’s offer to join hoffmann could never honestly.

brit and mallick: i’m a huge fan of the fatal five trap because it’s the only trap that could have been solved with minimal bloodshed up to the end and i find the way brit was going “we won” at the end of her game like… CHILLING victim falling for the jigsaw philosophy. one of those rare examples of characters that could have actually made logical and interesting apprentices. here we have two guys capable of doing messed up things, were punished for it, got the emotional rush of “atoning” for it but their moral flaw was literally not addressed because how the hell is torture supposed to fix that! so of course they would believe in the jigsaw philosophy at the end of it all!

simone: literally the one person in the franchise to directly call out jigsaw’s fucked up philosophy to jigsaw himself and to other victims when they foolishly try to give their suffering meaning only to end up falling back on jigsaw’s trash personal responsibility philosophy. queen.

bobby dagen: can we talk about how jigsaw’s philosophy is dangerously similar to bankable self help industry bullshit about personal responsibility that throws people in vulnerable circumstances (such as addicts, poor people and abuse victims) under the bus? oh, you mean there was a character we could have used to talk about it and we’re NOT TALKING ABOUT IT??? HELLO???

matt gibson: the pinnacle of the mainline saw franchise’s subtle discussions on police brutality exemplified and i am in love with it. we found THE single cop that saw police brutality, reported it, got demoted, was expected to save a horrible woman that let countless crimes happened and still saw she had the right to be protected from being murdered, and then failed to save her and everyone. because cops can’t save anyone. policing doesn’t save anyone. the end. the grisly tragedy of it all…

brad and ryan: honestly hilarious these two dipshits were the final accomplices with lawrence considering brit and mallick were right there but i am 99% sure lawrence hooked them in with some incel bullshit talking points after his wife left him and these chucklefucks were furious to find out how dina played them. which only goes to show how deep the rot in jigsaw’s philosophy goes. so many avenues of exploration.

#saw franchise #john kramer #the jigsaw killer #amanda young #adam faulkner stanheight #lawrence gordon #mark hoffman #peter strahm #i am tagging all the fandom blorbos you are all going to read this and THINK

[thee-radio-host-is-a-kookaburra]

idk nothing about saw

PLEASE EXPLAIN THE LORE I WANT TO UNDERSTAND /nf

*cracks knuckles* buckle up

There is a guy named John Kramer who’s wife, Jill Tuck (amazing character btw. didn’t deserve to die), has a miscarriage. He is then like “the guy who caused my ex wife’s miscarriage doesn’t appreciate life” so he traps and kills him. Then he does this again a few more times until someone survives and he’s like “see? trapping people is good actually. be my apprentice.” and the survivor, Amanda Young, is like “fuck yeah. thanks for making me cut open a guy. so happy to be alive now.”

Then there’s the bathroom trap in the original Saw and a character named Adam Stanheight is unfairly left to die even though he won his test, solely so the other guy, Lawrence Gordon (who technically LOST the test) could become John’s apprentice bc he’s a doctor. So Lawrence escapes and John is like “be my apprentice” and Lawrence is like “fuck yeah. thanks for kidnapping my wife and kids and making me saw my foot off. so happy to be alive now.”

So there’s also this guy named Hoffman (meanie stupid head) who actually didn’t even have to do anything. Some dude killed his sister so he killed the dude back and blamed it on the Jigsaw killer and John was like “wtf I didn’t do this.” So John stabs Hoffman in a public elevator with a needle and is like “your blade fucking sucks and also killing is bad. i would know bc i’m a killer.” Then he pretends to shoot him but it was actually just a little prank and John is like “be my apprentice” and Hoffman is like “i’m literally a homicide detective. but sure ok 👍”

So then it turns out Amanda Young was actually there with the dude that caused Jill’s miscarriage and Hoffman is like “kill this random woman or i’ll tell John” and Amanda is like “ok :(” and then dies bc said woman’s husband was there too. Oh and John also dies.

So then Hoffman like kills a few more ppl and blames it on this dead guy named Strahm. And then Jill finds out Hoffman technically got Amanda and John killed and is like “wow what the fuck. no wonder John hated you lol” bc it turns out John hated him lol. So Jill puts the reverse beartrap on him and stands outside the door for some reason but then Hoffman escapes and gets fucking Joker scars.

Then Hoffman catches Jill and says some mean things and then kills her. But then SURPRISE Lawrence is back‼️ You haven’t seen him since the first movie bc Cary Elwes wasn’t being paid enough and filed a lawsuit but it’s ok bc he’s back now. Lawrence serves cunt and kills Hoffman in the same bathroom Adam died in right next to Adam’s body.

But ofc, this is just a short summary. This isn’t even going into like. the Fatal Five, the Matthews, Rigg’s attempted recruitment, Bobby Dagen, Scott Tibbs Documentary, etc etc etc

oh also Jigsaw (2017) and Spiral (2021) happen too

#saw #saw 2004 #saw franchise #saw movies #lawrence gordon #adam faulkner stanheight #amanda young #jill tuck #mark hoffman #john kramer #adam stanheight

[tibby]

sorry to adam and mandy in iii but this is actually my favourite deleted scene from the saw franchise. there is just something deeply enjoyable to me about lawrence post trap post divorce post losing custody post becoming a murder assistant. the gay little cardigan and the ominous way he talks. the confirmation that he wasn’t just attending jigsaw survivor group meetings to fuck with bobby dagen and in fact was sitting around being weird as hell before that clown started showing up. amanda loses her faith in john and humanity and hoffman goes mad with power and logan is off doing whatever it was logan did for the first seven movies but lawrence becomes an apprentice and just decides he’s going to make everyone uncomfortable.

[jambling]

I like to think that Lawrence had a whole saw trap planned out for Bobby Dagen, big gay ass dramatic reveal and all and then Hoffman went and put him in his murder maze and hes like well fuck and that's why he put him in the bathroom

#saw 3d #sawposting #why else would he have done that whole speech at the jigsaw survivors group #lawrence gordon #please tell me what lawrences sawtrap would be in the tags #or in my inbox

[winters0689]

Lawrence Gordon was only in Saw 3D for like less than ten minutes, and you know what, he WAS OUTSTANDING!!! He was not only HOT but he was absolutely GORGEOUS!! He strolled in and absolutely DEMOLISHED Bobby Dagen with his sarcasm and also DESTROYED Mark Hoffman by locking him in the Bathroom. Idk what it was, but Cary Elwes FUCKING DEMOLISHED THIS ROLE!!! I don’t care if he wasn’t even there for that long, to me he was one of the best part of the movie!

#lawrence gordon #saw franchise #saw 3d #saw movies #HE WAS SO HOT!!! #Lawrence Gordon is SO bbg #I am a Lawrence Gordon DEFENDER!!! #the only thing he did wrong was cheat on his wife and leave Adam in the Bathroom #then again we don’t know what happen for all we know Adam was already dead by the time Lawrence got his prosthetic #he is a hot Dilf

[sawtastic-sideblog]

Dumbest thought of the day:

Prima ballerina Adam

Douche bag manager Hoffman (mans is secretly a dancer but life happened and now he's a bitter man who dances I secret)

Ballerina bff Amanda

(Only open if you wanna see my incoherent sleep deprived ramblings. I haven't slept in 2 days because insomnia and my anxiety has decided to 🎶 kick it up a notch 🎶 I currently have no filter)

Obsessed audience member that wants Adam...idk probably William or Logan...fuck it it's Ivan

Logan works in props

William (this is emmerson schenk whatever btw) works with the lights

Theater owners John and Jill (they hate hoffman and love Adam)

Buff head stangehand Strahm

Zeke is a principal dancer as well and they whore him out to film and other theater productions (they can spare him but not Adam because Adam puts asses in the seats)

Remember Addy? The middle aged lady that works for William Easton? Yeah she was prima ballerina back in her day but an injury to her out of the game. Now she's the dance teacher/instructor who adores Amanda and Daniel.

Speaking of William Easton he's the number one patron he's at every show and everyone calls him Uncle MoneyBags ™ because he dressed like Mr. Monopoly for Halloween ones fifteen years ago (Adam started it)

Brent Abbott you ask? He's just starting out in the big leagues. Adam has taken him under his wing

Corbett Denlon? Star of her class. Been dancing sine she was 3. She's at every performance she can get her parents to go to. The practice room she uses to rehearse is named after her late brother (who was also a student everyone adored)

And who is this up in the rafters changing the backdrops for scenes? Why it's Bobby Dagen the stage hand who is down bad for children's dance instructor and another principal dancer that gets lent out to other productions Joyce Young (in this universe Amanda and Joyce are cousins just go with it)

Where's our favorite Doctor Lawrence Gordon? (I know our actual favorite doctor is Lynn Denlon but for the sake of this post it's Larry (imagine cary elwes saying Larry from that one scene of men in tights)) well I'll tell you. He is the new front of house manager and he hates Hoffman and he went backstage to confront him but got distracted when he saw Adam dancing. Completely transfixed. He was smitten but has never talked to him in the 3 months he's Been there.

Zep is John's nephew. He's clumsy and spills his mop water on the daily. He's also the janitor/ maintenence man for the theater. He's been electrocuted many times. He's fine. His hair is permanently sticking up tho.

Remember Britt and Addison? Yeah they're the mean girls who constantly undermine everyone they dont like (mainly Amanda. They try to get into Adam's pants) (honestly they could hit me with a car and I'd say thank you)

Perez is Strahms BFF and costume designer

Cecil Adams? Of course he's here. He's the pervy stage hand nobody likes (think Joseph Buquet in Phantom of the Opera meets Ted Spankofski from Starkid's Hatchetfield series)

Art Blanc of course he's the theaters legal aid

Rigg is Amanda's dance partner. They're also like together but not

Kerry is there. She's Gordon's second in command.

Daniel Matthews was forced into dance classes by his mom when he got in trouble in school at 13. He's a natural. He still isn't the best but he takes extra lessons with Addy, Adam, Rigg, Amanda, and Joyce (everyone does one of one with him) and Brett helps him outside of the theater. (They're bffs)

Eric Matthews is head of security who is constantly watching Daniel. He's proud

Dan Erickson is here too. He's the accountant.

Jeff joined Eric's security after his son died so he could spend more time with Corbett

Lynn serves as the unofficial theater nurse. She's patched up many floor burns (trust me it fucking hurts when you fall on a stage/dance studio floor even with something to cover your skin think rug burn but from a wooden floor) and sprain ankles and a few broken toes, one time Daniel was a little over zealous and rammed himself into the mirror and broke his nose. She loves being the only unofficial nurse on the unofficial payroll (they're donations for new pediatrics wing of the hospital. John and Jill are grateful for her services but she won't accept payment so they donate to her new department she runs)

The theater is called "Gideon Theater" of course.

Other characters make up the orchestra but I'm too lazy to look them up rn. Up to your imagination but like Charles from 5 plays bass clarinet. The two from the pound of flesh trap are here too. I don't remember their names but the girl plays clarinet and the guy is percussion (I can see him playing xylophone the hammer bell things and crashing th cymbals) And the last surviving dude from the fatal 5 plays trumpet. I know their names my brain is just fried right now

Oh and Bobby's BFF I think he's named after spinach or some other leafy vegetable I can't remember but he's an investor in the theater too.

(Just because I don't have motivation to write this I'd love for people to write their own interpretation of this and tag me) (bonus points if we cross universes and Specs and Tucker show up) (I don't expect anyone to actually do this)

#this is what happens when i havent slept in 2 days #you get this #saw 2004 #saw franchise #adam stanheight #lawrence gordon #leigh whannell #amanda young #john kramer #mark hoffman #saw fanfic #tobin bell #if i had motivation to write this i would

[m34gs]

Please sum up each Saw movie in one, silly sentence.

Ask, and ye shall receive!

Saw (2004): Gay star-crossed lovers in The Bathroom both end up a bloody mess.

Saw II: Time is not really of the essence; trust me, a known serial killer, time isn't even real, you don't need time to find your son.

Saw III: Jeff sucks at helping people.

Saw IV: Remember kids, "haste makes waste" and arriving early can kill your friends! :D

Saw V: In order to survive, five unlucky individuals must discover what the High School Musical cast already knows: We're All In This Together.

Saw VI: Fuck the insurance company.

Saw VII: Bobby Dagen learns the meaning of the phrase "be careful what you wish for, or you just might get it".

Jigsaw (2017): Hi, you don't know me and you've never seen me before, but I'm the Original Apprentice here to fuck shit up and fight corruption!

Spiral: From the Book of Saw (2021): Fellas, is it gay to stalk the only cop who testified truthfully about the wrongful shooting of your father, put yourself through school so you can become a cop too, apply to work in the same precinct and then fake having a family so you can make small talk and gain his trust while you kidnap and kill off the other dishonest officers, including his father; all to offer him the chance to run away with you and work together?

Thanks for the ask, friend! This was fun!!! Hope you enjoyed my responses!

#saw #saw franchise #summarizing saw in silly sentences #for fun #asks #kimium #thank you I really enjoyed doing this

[shortbreadly]

which is your favourite saw film ? (mine is iii)

i’m taking that as an opportunity to rank them and go into detail

saw 2004 obviously. only film with adam (conscious adam anyway) only film with a decent amount of lawrence screen time since he’s in 3D for like five minutes. it’s the first one i ever watched obviously, and also i beat my friend playing snooker while we were watching it so good times

saw vi. INSANELY close with my third ranking but this gets the edge because it not only has a good trap plot but we also see hoffman get his face ripped open. and of course the ‘right now you’re feeling helpless' scene which is just amazing

saw v, like i said very close to saw vi. it’s got hoffman and strahm, like what else am i going to want from a saw film. also the glass coffin and the water cube are two of my favourite traps ever

then saw iii. amanda makes me so sad man and that film has made me cry (so have the majority of them for some reason). VERY good traps (the angel trap will always be a favourite of mine), and plus it's the only film with lynn

saw X, very good film. i loved the john and amanda bits and the idea of everyone just abandoning hoffman while the go to mexico is very amusing to me, i just wasn't that into the trap victims

saw ii. i know it sounds low on the list but honestly i love all of these films almost equally so that doesn't mean much. that being said, as much as i hate eric matthews as a person he was a fucking great character in the film and daniel as well was great (it's a crime i've never drawn him). also the plot twist at then end is brilliant, like i remember sitting with my mouth wide open when i first watched it

saw iv. first major roles for hoffman, strahm and perez so of course i love it for that reason. it's just that to this day i still find it confusing to follow, other than that it's great

saw 3D. yes i know it's not great and i hate bobby dagen with a burning passion, but credit where credit is due i did love lawrence's appearance and twist as well as hoffman acting like a rabid animal. the ending is very bittersweet for me and i choose to believe he lived somehow

i haven't watched spiral because i can't get hold of it, however i still believe it would probably be above the next one

i fucking hate jigsaw. i hate logan, i hate that none of the original characters bar john were in it (because if john was realistically at least amanda could've been), and also it makes no fucking sense. also why doesn't the cop guy have a skull when the lasers cut him open???

#that was a pretty long rant #don't get me complaining about jigsaw i genuinely despise that film #it really rubs salt in the wound that they took the first two films off netflix but left that monstrosity #shortbreadly answers

[borom1r]

#we all had excellent taste in the first one I’m excited to see how this shitshow turns out #chosen from my bestie’s list of the most rancid saw characters personality-wise #saw #saw 3d #john kramer #scott tibbs #bobby dagen #gun to your head which of these men are you marrying #also sorry lesbians I love Amanda too much to put her back in one of these polls #and there aren’t really any women in the series who hold a candle to these three

[studiousbotanist]

i woke up absolutely fucking furious over saw 3D again and i need to watch the gif of strahm headbutting hoffman in the nose to feel better . i wish i had a bobby dagen pain gif also OUHHHH I SAID HIS NAME AND NOW MY JAW HURRRTTTSS !!!!!!! I HAT ETHIS MOVIE ! I AHTE THIS MOVIE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I HATEEEE THIS MOVIE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ANGRY #GIFS

#hey jerk! speed kills!

[fate-motif]

au where instead of passing himself off as a jigsaw survivor bobby dagen is one of those celebrities that show off surviving extreme situations and writes shit like. how to survive a jigsaw trap. and he appreciates his life so much and he’s not even an asshole but john kramer still fucking hates his guts so much that he still gets stuck in his own game

#saw #saw 3d #bobby dagen #saw vii #jigsaw killer #john kramer #fandom