i'm starting a support group for all the people who have had long term besties go quiet without any reason
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I can’t stop thinking about a fanfic idea where Mickey does 8 years in prison after season 5 as planned, and when he gets out he moves to whatever city Svetlana and Yev live in, determined to move on with his life.
And then 8 years later when Yev is like 17, they’re all back in Chicago for a few days because Yevs got a big soccer game or something for school. Anyway they lose the game. So afterwards, him & his friends sneak out of the hotel and end up getting into a fight with the other team and one of them gets injured so an ambulance is called.
And Yevgeny isn’t hurt or anything, just a black eye and bruised knuckles. So he can’t figure out why the red headed paramedic keeps looking at him like the guy has seen a ghost.
But then, his mom and dad arrive, ready to cuss him out for being so stupid. And Yev notices his dad and the paramedic look at each other with that same stricken expression that the red head was wearing earlier, and he starts to piece it together.
And so 16 years after Ian and Mickey’s break-up, Yevgeny meets his dad’s first love and gets to witness their long road back to each other.
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Thinking a lot about Mary moving on…
I love how it was handled, for although while the ghosts talked about it a fair bit, I didn’t actually think the show would go there, and I think it was portrayed really well. It makes sense for Mary’s character development, especially given that she mentions in 2x4 that she ‘dreamed of the day when [she] would be sucked off’ which makes this a happy ending for her, but it still hurts so much, and I don’t think i have even fully accepted it yet.
I am a bit unsure as to whether her moving on was something that almost randomly occurred or whether it was due to the fact that she was healing from her trauma in a ‘unfinished business’ type way. I am leaning more towards the former just because of the actual timing of her moving on, although it did happen quite shortly after some huge character growth and development within the season.
I do love the thought that her healing and sharing her trauma and finding her voice led to her moving on, but the implications of that are very hard to accept, because it means that any growth or development of the characters could lead to their eventual sucking off, and that is so hard to think about. It implies that the Captain learning to let go and express his emotions and accept his sexuality will mean that he will move on, or Kitty coming to terms and accepting how her sister actually treated her and finding a new family in the ghosts leading to her moving on, and that is so overwhelming to think about because I really don’t want any more of the ghosts to move on. I know it is an inevitability with the actual rules set within the show, but I really love these characters and I would hate for them to not exist anymore.
If moving on is a more random process, which I am inferring it is given how it just *happens*, then it means that none of the ghosts will necessarily move on if they change and grow and develop, which is comforting because I really want to see them all learn and develop without the knowledge that all this change is bringing them closer to not-existing, because I feel like that means I can’t enjoy their character development as much, or appreciate how they are all growing as people. I want each ghost to personally grow, but also to be able to sit and exist with the growth without it meaning that they have to leave the world behind for good.
Mary was, in my opinion, the perfect character to move on, not only because of her amazing recent character development but also because of Annie, because Annie was her best friend in a way that none of the other ghosts were, and so in a way it felt right for Mary to go with Annie. Also while I am sure a lot of ghosts would like to move on (probably Robin especially, definitely not Thomas tho), Mary has explicitly stated her desire to move on, which makes me happy for her since she got her desire, even though it is terribly painful to watch. Being a ghost is it’s own specific form of torturous existence, but it also allows the ghosts another shot, and they have become a family together, and I really don’t want to see anyone else move on.
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okay okay okay so i've been reading through your top gun posts/tags and YES ME TOO the more i think about rooster's character/characterization the less i like him. You are absolutely right that the whole fallout is so incredibly shallow, i just - see i don't necessarily blame him for being mad. pulling his papers was kind of a dick move, at least since it seems like rooster's dream job was aviator? i'd also be kinda pissed. (also how old is he at this point? 17-18? that age isn't exactly known for common sense.) BUT it didn't need to turn into a twenty year radio silence with a fuckton of outright viciousness on rooster's part. like, okay, you don't like maverick, but that doesn't mean that you can tell him that no one is going to mourn him when he dies. you definitely can't tell him that the first person who ever believed in him shouldn't have. that's cruel. full stop. (and we all know carole taught him better.)
tl;dr, yeah, the emotional immaturity that rooster is written with, both in canon and in fic, is incredibly annoying and the more i see it the more i want to scream
you get it! firstly i'd like to preface this by saying i just don't care enough about rooster or any of the new people to debate this with anyone. in fact i wouldnt care about him at all if he didnt piss me off in that one scene every time I rewatch the movie and if folks didn't keep inserting him in my icemav* to 1. make maverick grovel and/or 2. use ice to either validate maverick's position or rooster's (ice was never, in canon, involved in that shitshow but everyone seems to have forgotten that).
with that cleared up that's exactly it. everything you said. to be clear i dont think he's an irredeemable dick. I just think he's a dick for a lot longer than he needs to be. the twenty years of silence is bad and unjustifiable enough but that shit he says to mav is so...
in some fairness to him he's just been through a high stress situation when he says it but i'm a big believer in 'you don't say things in anger that you aren't already thinking'.
so in addition to just being insanely cruel in using his father's death like that against the man who literally stepped up to be a surrogate father to rooster because his father meant so much to him, his metric for a meaningful life is so ???? painfully tedious??
like you are in the military?? and you think if someone doesn't have a wife and children to mourn them they have nobody? you think like this in the military?? this man really is the straightest character in both top guns combined by a very long mile beating both admiral cain (an icemav conspiracy theorist) and admiral simpson (an iceman simp) to the spot.
also it just makes me laugh every time because he's completely off mark as well -maverick has lived an incredible life. he has people who obviously love and respect him. the whole darkstar crew, hondo especially. there's ice whos been his friend for longer than he hasn't known ice at this point. i'm sure there's more people. he's built a dream home for himself, surrounded by things he loves most. he has the distingushed career he wanted but also on his own terms. sure he has his regrets but that's just life. rooster looking down on him for the life he's led is very lmfao.
*except for the people who have written extremely lovely, gutwrenching, in character icemav raising bradley fics, you know who you are look away this isn't about you i love and appreciate you.
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