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#as jayce ’not being there’ for viktor.
sulevinen · 8 months
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i feel like every jayce hater is a viktor lover
#like do you know what i mean?? every single girlie i see hating on jayce says they love viktor.#like of COURSE you love viktor who wouldn’t#but i don’t. understand. the correlation between loving viktor and hating jayce#because really jayce is the least of viktor’s problems#like oh jayce was sleeping with mel when viktor was dying (because of his own experiment) and that’s why jayce sucks???#like man. jayce has his own set of problems and VIKTOR NEVER TALKS ABOUT HIS so how is jayce supposed to know#idk my biggest pet peeve i guess is hating a character because they’re slightly mean to a character you love#because that is such a lame reason to hate someone#also?? most of the people who love viktor baby him. and that’ssssss a choice. to be sure. hm.#sigh i just sometimes dislike viktor fans so much lmfao and im not even a jayce fan#i just think it’s so unfair to hate a character from arcane over something so small#as jayce ’not being there’ for viktor.#i mean it’s ARCANE ffs and you decide to hate jayce over that???#really in arcane i don’t hate any characters except marcus#because every character has so much nuance and depth that i can understand them very well#except marcus. he’s just an asshole#but like. okay yeah i don’t know what i’m saying anymore#i just don’t like jayce hate because of viktor love#like it’s okay to hate jayce but PLEASE tell me there are other reasons than just the fact that he doesn’t baby viktor the way you do#ugh#viktor fans are another can of worms im not a fan of opening#🫧
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bedknees · 7 months
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"It's impossible for a piece of media to have a perfect, thematically flawless ending."
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spellssher · 15 days
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viktor's cane is straighter than these two
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dastardlydumb · 2 years
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it's always sunny in piltover
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specialagentartemis · 2 months
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Jayce is fascinating because he thinks he’s the hero. And in another show he would be. But I’m not confident Arcane fully thinks he is.
He is trying to do the right thing but keeps stepping in situations he doesn’t understand, thinking they’re straightforward when they’re not.
He demanded Silco hand over Jinx for Zaun’s independence, thinking he was asking a drug lord to turn in his unstable and violent lieutenant, not realizing the ultimatum he gave Silco was “your daughter’s life or your city’s freedom.” No wonder Silco reacted badly!
He balked at killing a Zaunite child himself with his own hands. No wonder Vi taunted him and lost faith in him, saying, oh, now you’re precious about killing Zaunite children? When you have to see them die?
In frustration and anger, he said to Viktor’s face that Zaun residents were dangerous and violent, and only seemed a little embarrassed when Viktor reminded him sharply, “I’m from Zaun.” No wonder Viktor didn’t trust him with his shimmer plan—the reminder that Jayce saw him as one of the Good Ones, or maybe was only able to love and respect him if Jayce conveniently forgot that he was a Zaunite too. No wonder Viktor tried to do his dangerous medical experiments alone, only willing to tell Jayce after he was sure it worked and his actions could be justified. Because Viktor didn’t trust Jayce to back him up, to see him as a person worth respecting if he tried to use shimmer in his efforts to save his own life. (His professor, and the Council, sure don’t even want him to use hextech for that!) But Jayce didn’t give Viktor a reason to trust him with this: A Zaunite drug, smuggled across the bridge by a Zaunite. (Another untrustworthy, dangerous Zaunite, because that’s what those people are.) No wonder Viktor tried to do it all alone, and didn’t ask Jayce to be there to help him or watch out for him or support him or double-check his work or keep people out of the lab while he was experimenting. No wonder Sky walked in on him alone in a risky experiment she didn’t understand and didn’t have any way to know was going on, with no one to be able to tell her what was going on and to stay away, and died because of it.
Jayce is truly trying to do what is right… but he has a hard time getting out of his own head, and it ends up sabotaging the progress he believes in so strongly.
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bringthekaos · 3 months
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I love your interpretations of Jayce and Viktor, so in your expert opinion, which is the best way that they first get together?
A- they're adults about it and one asks the other out for supper (yeah right)
B- after months/years of pining, one breaks spectacularly and kisses the other without warning
C- the sexual tension gets so palpable they both break at the same time and throw themselves at each other like horny wild animals
D- one has a function brain cell and decides to blantantky seduce the other, results vary
Hmmmmmm juicy juicy question.
I think we all know it wouldn’t be A. The boys are too emotionally constipated 🤣
I think definitely option B. Perhaps with a dash of D (haha dick joke).
When I started my Our Hextech Dream series, I had Jayce make the first move. And while I love how I wrote it, with Jayce unable to keep his hands off of Viktor, if I had to go back and write it again, I think I might change things up. I think Jayce would be head over heels infatuated, but terrified to make a move. He’s unsure, he thinks maybe he’s misinterpreting Viktor’s signals (when in reality a bomb would be more subtle than Viktor’s ‘signals.’) He values what they have, their camaraderie and working relationship; they flow so well together, it’s like their minds are connected. They finish each other’s sandwiches sentences, they move around each other in the lab like a practiced waltz. And Jayce doesn’t want to ruin that, doesn’t want to risk the beautiful synergy they already have.
Meanwhile Viktor is very aware of Jayce’s attraction, can see him staring out the corner of his eye, can note the way Jayce’s breath catches when Viktor softly speaks his name. He’s noticed the lingering touches, the lingering gazes, and on more than one occasion, Jayce biting his lip when Viktor speaks in his mother tongue. He knows, but he’s unsure as well—why hasn’t Jayce acted? Yes, such a thing could complicate their work on Hextech, but clearly Jayce’s feelings are getting in the way of that anyway; he’s making more errors, fumbling more calculations, and all because he’s so busy gazing at Viktor like he hung the stars.
So Viktor decides to lay it on thick—throwing everything he’s got at Jayce in an attempt to make him break, make him finally admit. He initiates an assault of playful physical touches, starts using endearments in their conversations. And he gets a sickly sweet satisfaction from watching as these things slowly drive Jayce mad with want…
Yet still he doesn’t break. So Viktor starts getting frustrated too, takes it as a personal challenge. And one day it all comes to a head. Jayce is already frazzled, as Viktor had called him darling when he’d brought over two steaming mugs of coffee. And when he’d reached out to offer Viktor one of the mugs, Viktor paused to cup his hand, soothing his thumb back and forth over Jayce’s knuckles in a gesture of gratitude and offering up what he knows to be one of his most devilishly coy smiles. Jayce loses his breath like he’s been shot, but instead of saying anything, he just turns for the chalkboard and begins hurriedly erasing their work from the previous day. He mumbles about whatever project they’re working on, but clearly he’s distracted and anxious—he keeps losing his train of thought and his hands tremble so badly that he ends up breaking the stick of chalk in half in his fervor.
And that’s it, that’s all Viktor can take.
He grumbles a painfully fond “you idiot,” and storms over, hardly slowing the momentum of his body before crashing against Jayce and slamming their lips together.
Jayce lets out a squeak of surprise into Viktor’s mouth, but instantly gives in—that shock turning to wanton, pitiful need that rumbles as a low whimper in his throat. Viktor isn’t sure how long they stay like this, lips claiming lips and tongues claiming tongues, but by the time they separate he’s breathless and dizzy. And Jayce appears equally affected—a dopey grin on his face and a wobble in his knees.
“You are impossible,” Viktor barks, shaking his head in disbelief. “I’ve been trying to get you to do that for months.”
Ugghhh what a fun ask. Would love to hear how everyone else thinks it would go down!
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steelandscience · 2 years
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Mid-afternoon naps… they’ve been working hard on science and changing the world and stuff.
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tenshouining · 1 year
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[day 3 - coming out] if youre not kissing in the lab are you really partners. . .
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arcane character twitter dump
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idkwhatimdoingbutslay · 5 months
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Ok I’m trying to gather my thoughts and excitement for the furthering of the parallels between Singed&Heimer and Viktor&Jayce and even Jinx&Ekko.
Jayce kicking Heimer off the council but also just becoming another version of him. Bright minds in the Undercity being bound to become like Singed and Heimerdinger not understanding that their bright minds have to be used for survival and violence because they have no other choice.
Heimerdinger doesn’t realize that he tends to be one of the reasons the brightest minds around him burn the fastest.
Heimerdinger doesn’t realize that genius grows sooo differently in the Undercity and he just discourages them without realizing. No doubt he’ll do the same with Ekko (or maybe character development for Heimer cuz I’d love that).
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Good Genius vs Evil Genius but it’s debatable which is which.
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mirconreadzztuff22 · 4 months
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Is honestly crazy how Jayce found out Viktor had a deadly illness and then just decided to fuck Mel afterwards 💀
Like imagine your best friend left you to finish HIS OWN invention/path whatever the fuck you wanna call it, left you in the dark about information and being apart of the council, found our about your illness, told you that he ‘had a lot on his plate’ then immediately went off to fuck his new girlfriend
Funny thing is Viktor was sort of just chill with it all, even when Jayce called his own people dangerous 😭
But hey, at least Jayce did one good thing for once (save Viktor from sweeper slippery slider)
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royallynasty · 3 months
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Cuddling your bro when it's cold
:big lying eyes emoji:
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hexhomos · 2 years
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im curious to know your thoughts on viktor's biography saying jayce was nothing more than an inconvenience. how do you handle him saying they were never friends? was this because of piltoverians superiority or? (correct me if im wrong but i cant remember if you touched on that)
A friend of mine once said a catastrophic breakup has the unforeseen consequence of tainting everything that came before it in the harsh, abrasive light of the fresh argument, and after that initial damage is done it’s hard to pick out how the memories *really* were. No matter how positive. You begin to doubt, re-read and re-write what happened, so the ultimate split "makes sense."
This may not even be a conscious process half of the time! But jokes about crazy-ex-girlfriends exist for a reason, and I believe that reason might be a surplus of unwarranted crazy-ex-girlfriend stories that are told after the dissolution of every messy relationship. You need a clear Right and a clear Wrong. Rationalizing your behavior as “only logical, in the face of irrationality,” is a defense mechanism. It’s not a pretty one, but it boils down to this: avoidance of guilt, rejection of any criticism you may consider too true, the reshaping of your narrative so *you* are the one in control, the winner, the guy who’s closing the debate with the perfect comeback, one thought up in the shower 12 hours after the fact.
Viktor lies a lot. By omission, exaggeration, negligence and a sense of dwindling pride. Jayce is simultaneously unstoppably unjust and a worm-man that could be crushed beneath his heel; an insufferable viktor never chose for himself! Who is, at the same time, somehow, his work partner of years, actively by his side right up until his last project - or until he's had enough. And the dissonance is the point. This is an image that has been warped so much in editing you can see the smudgy click and drag marks in the surroundings. 
I do think Jayce and Viktor were friends, and this is an assertion I make without doubt. Viktor calls jayce his old friend when the plea benefits him, this is corroborated by how positively Jayce's bio speaks about Viktor, even while criticizing his methods.
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Jayce is indifferent to nearly everyone he meets, he says so himself, in his opening paragraphs; if he really was so Out There To Get Viktor And Ruin His Life &/Or Reputation- what fucking reason does he have to defend Viktor's honor after he's proved himself to be unstable and aggressive? If their relationship was nonexistent, sour, or predicated exclusively in rivalry or animosity, why does Viktor ask for Jayce to join him in his grand plan, after years of alleged cold war? What reason is there for Jayce to apologize and still extend him an out after Viktor sinks his head in with a giant crystal? What reason is there for him to even disclose doing that? (what reason is there for Jayce to call Viktor petnames after multiple direct attempts on his life???? LOL)
To put it mildly. If we are to take Viktor’s POV by his word (imagine he is being honest,) and see this as a straightforward detached revenge story about prejudice or jayce’s unreasonable hero complex or piltover carelessly wanting to trump over zaun or whatever - why doesn’t Jayce’s side of the story simply call him a cunt and move on? He has all the setup to prop himself as the true hero, but he doesn’t. Like Bon points out here, Jayce’s bio doesn’t even bring up that Viktor is a Zaunite. Not Once. There is no stereotypical city grudge casting him in a bad light. The information is implicit: they talk about Zaun, extensively, but Viktor’s ideas and standing and existence are what you know him by, not some undercity-dwelling boogeyman. If anything, Jayce self-deprecates far more frequently than Viktor does, and makes a sustained effort to poke holes on the audience’s perception of him being a ‘valiant hearted hero’ of any kind. He dont give a fuck. He doesn't want this title. He did not pick it. He is not choosing to represent this city. He has other, better, palpable things to care about. Namely his work, and generally ‘preventing people from being made into fucking zombies’. Jayce doesn’t want you to think that he is right(eous), but that what is happening is wrong.
If I take a step back from text interpretation here and tell you what I personally gather from it, Opinion Wise, it's this: Viktor is concerned with presenting you with a tragic fable because he has an ideology to sell. The revisions and concessions he makes along the way are for the ultimate purpose of crafting a legend. And sometimes that requires humility. He needs the rationalization to make sense of every single bad thing that has ever happened in his life; and in his way there he also tends to mix up one sore spot with the other, like they're all this elaborate multi-step prank destiny sprung on him, like every single other person in his life has been Lowkey Conspiring Against Him, so you can eventually agree to this:
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Humans suck, right? We agree humans suck, right, guys? I mean wouldn't we love it if humans didn't suck? Thats Why I Came Up With A Solution!! THE NEURALINK. - Viktor. (note: whenever there's a mention of the student body, swap it with 'Jayce' to see how the motivation builds up. Viktor makes an effort to omit him whenever possible anyway)
He's kind of at the end of his rope. This is his last ditch effort to build himself back up.
Generally speaking, the opposite goes for Jayce. He frontloads his statement with mentions of how he is a huge dipshit, unabashedly so, to get really at the meat of things: He thinks Viktor's preaching is fucking bogus, but the point is that guy used to be his friend. That guy used to be someone he knew! That guy was brilliant at what he did, even, but something went really terribly wrong down the line and it's frankly fucked up that it happened. But nobody really cares nor can they fully understand, because as Jayce previously stated, maybe everyone else is kind of fucking stupid, so he has to fix things on his own. (Jayce doesn't have any 'I stand for justice and righteousness and the american way,' comeback prepared to rebuke Viktor's speeches. That sentence could make him barf. He just has very strong feelings about where the line is drawn, and he’s not going to wait for the worst case scenario before doing something.)
I do think that more than anything else, It’s important (and telling) that both of their bios admit to them being deeply hurt by their falling-out. Jayce calls it ‘growing more insular’, Viktor calls it ‘traumatic’, there are attempts to patch things back up on either side (even if a bit tilted, even if the propositions don’t work) Viktor regrets trusting anyone at all, so he covers it up with detachment. Jayce regrets not having enough faith to communicate anything, when he could have, so he tries his best to own up to every present or imagined failure in his way towards improvement.
Of course Viktor would describe Jayce as inconvenient. Viktor is one of the many perceived past failures Jayce is desperately trying to do damage control for. And if he *can’t* change Viktor’s mind, well. At least Jayce can stand in his way and be really, really annoying.
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viktorsbabygirl · 1 year
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Sure, I can take a fucking picture of you He's obviously handsome and you're so damn cute My God, my God You didn't have to flex so hard He puts his hand around your waist You yours on his chest I'm bothered by the way his fingers crease your dress My God, my God Let's take another one where he breaks your heart Now smile
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i've had a headcanon of this song being Viktor's POV about you and Jayce ever since i heard it the first time. listen to it and relate lmao
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binghe-malewife-goals · 8 months
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Anyways, if anyone would like to translate what they're actually saying that'd be great, even if it's basically the same meaning with different wording ✨️
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exx-bee · 7 months
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I have been Too Excited to keep this secret and am now going 2 share a wip that im super proud of and have been working on ;-D
doodles under tha read more :-3
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