#anti cherrisnake

[autumnteawithfriends]

I despise CherriSnake and here’s why

Before we begin, something I want to clarify is that I don’t care if you ship or don’t ship CherriSnake. You do you, I’m not here to stop you and neither is this post. I just personally wanted to make a post on why I absolutely hate this ship.

Also, props to @cagneyblooms for helping me come up with some of the points.

REASON#1 - They don’t really work as partners for me

This is more of a personal reason to me, but CherriSnake is one of those ships to me where it feels like they absolutely can’t work out as a couple. Since the pilot is somewhat treated as canon in the show, they make no sense considering the fact that Pentious and Cherri absolutely despised eachother in the pilot. Both of them were locked in a turf war against one another and that hatred was mutual. Yet the show does a complete 180 from that and makes Pentious have this crush on Cherri out of nowhere, likely because Vivziepop wanted a straight HH ship and instead of deciding to just make a different character to pair Pentious/Cherri with or just make a entirely new ship. She just looked at the fandom, saw that CherriSnake was somewhat popular, and decided to make it canon last minute. CherriSnake during 2019-2023 just felt like a joke ship to me or something shippers who ship every character together would make. I mean, CherriSnake practically falls into a TON of popular tropes (Enemies/Rivals to Lovers, Angel x Demon, Girlboss x Goofball, probably way more) I’m not dissing this tropes, I even do these tropes myself with OC x Canon pairings I make. It’s just that CherriSnake felt rushed and last minute.

REASON#2 - They lack chemistry and actual interaction

To be fair, I partially put the blame on both Amazon Prime and Vivziepop for this. Amazon Prime because they only gave HH 8 episodes to really show its story, but I also blame Vivziepop for this. Because not only did she waste whatever time she had with those 8 episodes by showing us useless filler with the Vees and The Overlords instead of actually delving into the main sinners and why they’re in Hell. But she also crammed WAY too much content into 8 episodes instead of giving HH proper pacing.

But onto CherriSnake chemistry, Cherri and Pentious’s regular interactions pretty much prove to me that Vivziepop understands nothing about how actual relationships work and just make their dynamic one sided on Pentious’s part. Let’s be honest, Cherri does not reciprocate Pentious in the slightest considering the stuff she does to him. The shitty two dicks joke aside, not only was the kiss between her and Pentious forced because it was only a “heat of the moment” deal, but she also did this.

(Source: TV Tropes under Sir Pentious’s page)

I get that Cherri isn’t exactly a nicest sinner demon in Hazbin, but this combined with the two dicks joke and the kiss she and Pentious share makes her seem incredibly shallow (which she is considering how rushed this ship is in general) If Hazbin Hotel was like Bojack Horseman like some people claim it is, either these would happen.

A. Cherri realizes she was shallow for only wanting Pentious for his two dicks and never really considered how he felt, either leading Cherri and Pentious staying friends or Cherri breaking it off with him.

B. Pentious calls out Cherri for being shallow, thus giving both him and Cherri some development.

C. Cherri realizes that she only liked the kiss because it was less of them being in love and more of a heat of the moment adrenaline rush.

Or literally anything else. Cherri and Pentious never have a genuine interaction that either doesn’t make Cherri seem incredibly shallow or isn’t comedic.

As for the final reason, it may be a bit of a stretch, but I still think it counts.

REASON#3 - It’s borderline pedophillia

Again, props to @cagneyblooms for making me realize this point. Also, because pedophillia is very much a serious topic + I don’t want to throw the term around. I’ll be providing more evidence than the other two.

I’m not kidding, CherriSnake (atleast to me) becomes borderline pedophillic once you think about the lore Vivziepop spoon feeds us through her livestreams instead of diving deep into it. According to Vivziepop, Sir Pentious was in his mid 40s (best speculated to be 45) when he died while Cherri died in her early 20s, already raising a few eyebrows.

Yeah, this is already gross enough, but something that makes the age gap worse is the difference timeframe in which these two died in. Sir Pentious was confirmed to have died in 1888 London and Cherri Bomb died somewhere in the 80s. So not only was Pentious A GROWN ASS MAN WHO ALREADY HAD LIVED AND DIED BEFORE CHERRI WAS BORN, CHERRI WAS LIKELY BARELY A ADULT SINCE SHE WAS EITHER IN HER EARLY 20s AT BEST OR BARELY IN HER 20s AT WORST! This is also mentioning that Sir Pentious is also technically older than Cherri in Hell because depending on what exact year Cherri died in, Sir Pentious had either already spent nearly 100 years in Hell or he actually spent 100 years exactly in Hell when Cherri died. The only thing that really softens blow is that Pentious got a crush on her when they were both in Hell, meaning Cherri was technically still in her 20s in a way.

To conclude this, I hate CherriSnake. It’s one of the few Canon ships I actually despise since I either don’t care for Canon ships or I actually ship Canon couples as well. Even if Vivziepop wasn’t a terrible person, she’s still a really fucking awful writer who can’t stick to anything at all and is more concerned about her shitty Stoltliz soap opera rather than writing a good story. Writers like Vivziepop are the reason why research makes a good story.

#anti hazbin hotel #hazbin hotel critical #hazbin hotel criticism #hazbin hotel critique #anti vivziepop #vivziepop criticism #vivziepop critical #sir pentious hazbin hotel #cherri bomb #anti cherrisnake

[art-tea-chill]

A cursed thing I decided to make in IbisPaint, also drew Cherri from memory. OC x Canon rocks

Original I made

#my art #oc art #artists on tumblr #oc x canon #hazbin hotel oc #anti hazbin hotel #hazbin hotel criticism #anti cherrisnake #HeartSnake #slitherheart

[oceanatydes]

sorry but I don’t ship cherrisnake?? sir pentious obviously was in love with her but cherri showed no interest in him until angel suggested he had two d*cks. and when he kissed her, she thought it was vaguely hot and that was about it. it felt so one sided??

#like go sir pentious for confessing ur feelings I believe he really cared about her #but cherri really doesn’t care much about him 😭😭 #it feels so one sided I feel like people are making it a lot more than it is at least on Cherri’s side #anti cherrisnake #hazbin hotel #sir pentious #hazbin hotel spoilers #nsft

[grayluforever]

THEY DESERVED A HAPPY ENDING, FUCK YOU

#cherrisnake #sir pentious x cherri bomb #otp #anti viviziepop #SIR PENTIOUS DESERVES BETTER #hazbin hotel spoilers #snakebomb #CHERRISNAKE IS CANON #WE WERE ROBBED OF A HAPPY ENDING #I WILL NEVER FORGIVE VIVI FOR KILLING OFF SIR PENTIOUS LIKE THAT!!! #VIVI DID MY SHIP AND MY FAVE CHARACTER BOTH DIRTY!!! #CHERRISNAKE DESERVED BETTER #I AM IN PAIN AND IN TEARS #My ship happened BUT AT WHAT COST😭🤲🤲🤲🤲

[duaghterofstories]

I will not be elaborating or defending myself. 😘

#hazbin ships #hazbin hotel ships #royalhalo #charlie x emily #radiodust #huskerdust #voxval #staticmoth #morningstarcest #adamlute #guitarspear #guitarsword #cherrisnake #lucilith #charlastor #radiobelle #radioapple #radiostatic #molly x lute #valdust #mothdust #poly vees #Other ships I’m way too lazy to tag #anti chaggie #anti vaggie #comship #proship

[darklinaforever]

Charlie... if only you could be with Alastor or Emily. I'm sure it offered a more interesting storyline. Or even just that Vaggie is better written, including her relationship with Charlie... I really find Chaggie to be the weakest romantic / couple relationship in the Vivziepop universe, when they have so much potential ! It frustrates me !Fizzmodeus / Fizzarozzie, Moxillie, Stolitz, Huskerdust, CherriSnake are better written for me. And even StaticMoth and Lucilith (my babies, I want so much thaht Charlie's parents reunite !) seem more interesting !

THIS IS MY PERSONAL OPINION, NO HATE IN THE COMMENTS PLEASE !

#charlastor #radiobelle #royalhalo #anti chaggie ? #fizzarozzie #fizzmodeus #moxillie #stolitz #huskerdust #cherrisnake #lucilith #staticmoth #hazbin hotel #helluvaverse #helluva boss #vivziepop #viziepop #vivienne medrano

[yamchaisawesome]

Cherri bomb could be really funny right now and join the hotel the second she finds out Pentious is there. Sacrifices must be made for snake dicks.

#funny #Hazbin hotel #cherri bomb #cherrisnake #sir pentious #you could argue this is an anti feminist decision that takes away her agency #to that I say she knows what she wants #and she wants that loser

[hazshit-hotel-hater]

What ships do you do not like?

Im saving Huskerdust for last. I have way too much shit to say.

Aside from weird illegal ones and also disgusting ones, I am a very big Sir Pentious x Cherri Bomb disliker. It couldve been good but theres like no chemistry and Cherri doesn’t seem to actually like Pentious for any reasons other than he kissed her and then exploded and also weird double penis joke. Said it before, I’ll say it again, Cherri does not need a boyfriend she needs character development. If you’re interested in more of my hatred I have this rant abt it here

Valentino x Vox is another that I hate. I feel like I don’t need to explain why but I will anyway. I know they’re technically not canon anymore, but idk how I’m supposed to enjoy a ship between two characters when one is Valentino and also knowing that it was previously canon that Valentino has shattered Vox’s screen multiple times. Honestly you can’t even be like “well the voxtagram posts arent canon anymore so he’s not abusing vox” because you’re like objectively wrong. In the first couple shots we see of Vox and Valentino together Vox has an entire glass thrown at his head. Very important detail, he nonchalantly dodges it implying that while we know this is a common occurrence for Valentino to have violent breakdowns, it is also a common occurrence for Valentino to throw things at him or try to injure him in some way. Not to mention he seems very unsurprised when Valentino takes his phone and breaks that as well. Vox is also forced to walk on eggshells around this guy with how he talks to him. There’s literally no way for it to be healthy at all.

While I love the concept of Charlie and Vaggies relationship, it’s entirely brought down by Vivzies inability to write women and her lack of care for wlw relationships. There’s a lot of good rants about this, but I have so little substance to mention on these two it’s kind of hard to talk on. Vaggie doesn’t have much character development and Charlie is just incompetent all the time in the canon show and the only interesting stuff we got was from episode 7 (very good episode btw)

Any Alastor ship ever. End.

I do not like Huskerdust a lot of the time. I don’t enjoy how the fandom does it a lot of the time because they don’t really consider the others boundaries and just are like “well they like each other now so they should kiss!” And I disagree with that very hard. For how it is in the show, the best i've seen is the little bit in episode 8 which I really do enjoy but obviously there was no build up to it really so I hardly have much to grasp and I have to do everything myself. Relationships take a long time. That goes hand in hand with my rewrite also. Angel has harassed Husk and other people multiple times and that’s not okay obviously but for some reason no one acknowledges that?? The first step of them ever getting together or even being friends for that matter is Angel apologising. I will be mentioning my fuckass rewrite again just as an example of what I’d do, so I apologise! Everything from this chunk till the end is about how my friend and I have tried to fix this dumb relationship. It’d take him a little to mention it, but for how I’ve done it with my friend he ends up going out to dinner with Husk after rewritten episode 4 events and after getting texts from Valentino he starts reflecting on how bad Valentino and other people objectifying makes him feel and has that “..shit im doing that to other people.” And they have a little talk about it where Angel apologises for acting that way and tells Husk to call him out if he started doing it again on accident.

And it's not a quick fix conversation either, they aren’t magically best friends now and they don’t suddenly start being lovey with each other, Angel doesn’t even list Husk as a friend yet in his mind and has a bit where he only lists two people as his friends. There’s also bits of rewriting where Angel is yelling at Husk and ends up getting upset to the point he indirectly hurts Husk by throwing a wine bottle at him and Husk steps on the glass while he’s walking out. They talk it out again and Angel has another small crisis about potentially starting a cycle of abuse because his own trauma is shaping how violently he reacts to minor situations. Both of them need to work on themselves before they do anything. Especially Angel when he’s developed a habit of snapping and has a mindset that he needs to physically fight any potential threat away from him and it's leading him to actually hurt people. While that isn’t the sole reason he's in hell he's still in hell he is an objectively bad person and Husk has his own problems too especially when dealing with Angel specifically, both of them have an issue of pushing blame off themselves or shaming the other in overly stressful situations even if they don’t mean to. Husk has a tendency to shame Angel for his coping mechanisms and even if he's well intentioned with his criticism he gives it in a very uncaring and harsh way and will sometimes default to saying “I didn’t actually care in the first place” even if he does. They currently are not ready to be in a relationship together by any means, but fights help them reflect on themselves and of course at least Angel is at the hotel to be a better person. Charlie talks to him often and shows him it’s okay to confide in other people but that he doesn’t need to tell someone everything and that he can keep things to himself, and then the help from Charlie leads to Angel apologising again and trying to do the same for Husk like listening to him talk about his own issues and then giving input on them or just casual banter and so on. Both of them desperately need to work on themselves and they’re trying to do it together and I think when they're ready they’ll probably the best matches for each other, but you can’t just skip over the issues, the issues are the entire point of growing, that's why they are at the hotel.

#hazbin hotel #raimble #hazbin critical #hazbin hotel criticism #hazbin hotel critical #cherri bomb x sir pentious #valentino x vox #angel dust x husk #voxval #staticmoth #huskerdust #cherrisnake #anti vivziepop #tw valentino #cw valentino #tw abuse #cw abuse

[pawzofchaos]

I really hope cherri bomb's feelings for sir pentious isn't unrequited love. I keep hearing stupid antis saying that she wasn't interested in him and saying the ship isnt canon

yeah, they HAVE to be reciprocated in some sort of way. Cherrisnake antis are so annoying because most of them are just mad that a cute fan ship worked its way into the show, but they have SO MUCH potential to be awesome ppl just needa listen! 👏

Are you telling me there are NO feelings of love after that kiss?

she looks so devastated after he dies cmon,, there has to be something, especially with the possibility that her old partner treated her badly (from the Addict music video) and then silly goofy snake guy and treats her well and tells her he genuinely loves her

there are a lot of other scenes I could talk abt and say how Cherri DOES actually reciprocate Pent's feelings, but I'll leave it here and say that Cherrisnake is totally end game <3 trust me guys

#Also another thing #the official hazbin acc and other random company accs on twt keep advertising Cherrisnake as an actual thing #AND THE VA OF CHERRI SAID “it's not just bc I'm Cherri but I LOVE sir Pentious” #I WOULD THROW HANDS IF THEY DIDNT END UP TOGETHER IN FUTURE SEASONS #mike says shit #text post #hazbin hotel #hh #cherrisnake #ranting #ask

[theloganator101]

yeah, they HAVE to be reciprocated in some sort of way. Cherrisnake antis are so annoying because most of them are just mad that a cute fan ship worked its way into the show, but they have SO MUCH potential to be awesome ppl just needa listen! 👏

Are you telling me there are NO feelings of love after that kiss?

she looks so devastated after he dies cmon,, there has to be something, especially with the possibility that her old partner treated her badly (from the Addict music video) and then silly goofy snake guy and treats her well and tells her he genuinely loves her

there are a lot of other scenes I could talk abt and say how Cherri DOES actually reciprocate Pent's feelings, but I'll leave it here and say that Cherrisnake is totally end game <3 trust me guys

And the thing is I completely get what they were trying to do with Chaggie as I often say when it comes to LGBT+ relationships that it needs to feel natural and not in your face about it. But the problem here is that there are barely any scenes of them acting like an actual couple, so it's kind of hard to see them being more than friends.

There's a TikTok that I saw that explains that sometimes a will they won't they situation is more interesting to watch than an already established one since we can SEE the characters bonding and that the idea of them being in a relationship is actually sound.

With Chaggie however, since they're already established we don't have to worry about a will they won't they situation and the conflict they DID have was resolved in less than an episode. So again, it's not really giving me anything to actually care about their relationship since we know it's all gonna be fine at the end.

#hazbin hotel critical #Vaggie critical #hazbin hotel criticism #chaggie critical

[grayluforever]

So like…I kind of imagine Emily getting into Hell, and she is meeting the others and she is just, “Oh! So this is what Sir Pentious was talking about!” And everyone is just like OH MY GOD you have met him!” And Emily just is yeah, “Yea! He is really nice and cute…” And Cherri Bomb is just, “HEY! That ass is mine!” Or something like that, 😂

#cherrisnake #jealously au #sir pentious #cherri bomb #emily #anti pentemily #hazbin hotel #sircherri

[grayluforever]

I OFFICIALLY HAVE NO MORE RESPECT FOR VIVZIEPOP!! SHE KILLED SIR PENTIOUS BEFORE HE AND CHERRI BOMB COULD HAVE A CHANCE ON A RELATIONSHIP!!!

#cherrisnake #sir pentious x cherri bomb #otp #anti viviziepop #hazbin hotel #sircherri #sir pentious never dies #JUSTICE FOR CHERRISNAKE

[grayluforever]

I just haven’t seen Cherri show any kind of affection towards any female characters so it’s hard to believe she is bi

cause neither of them showed any sign of being bisexual. And like When they were all at the club Cherri was only having sex with dudes and said that she’d have sex with the next guy she saw.

#cherri bomb #hazbin hotel #anti viviziepop #anti lgbtq #tw rape #ugghh people are just. Idk why. Read body language people #sir pentious #cherrisnake #sir pentious x cherri bomb #I think vivizepop is more obsessed with lgbt in general. But mostly she's just using it as a joke mostly with gay guys and Guy couples.

[grayluforever]

But knowing Viv and her audience I think she'll make him bi for the sake of the fandom ship wars

#cherrisnake #sir pentious is a straight man #cherri bomb is a straight woman #anti viviziepop #sir pentious x cherri bomb #sir pentious is not bisexual

[grayluforever]

I mean Cherri and pentious are implied to me at least to be around the same age when they died like Cherri seems eirher in her late 20s or early 30s while pentious seems like his mid tolate 30s 1like

#Pro Cherrisnake #sir pentious #cherri bomb #anti age gap #hazbin hotel #snakebomb #sircherri #antis fuck off

[grayluforever]

both sir p and cherri are straight

they only showed interest to the opposite sex

#anti lgbt #pro cherrisnake #sir pentious x cherri bomb #sir pentious is a straight man #cherri bomb is a straight woman #anti vivienne medrano #anti vivizepop