#and I do have an accent in english

[professorcalculusstanaccount]

I remember discussing Tintin casting choices with a friend from Germany and remarked how it was odd he often has an English accent in adaptations rather than a Belgian one, and my friend just replied "that's because Tintin gives incredibly strong English boy energy (derogatory)"

Here in the UK there's a lot of weird classism tied into accents. Today accent diversity and representation in broadcasting is actively pursued but in Tintin's time there certainly was a preferred accent to have.

imagine this exchange happens between pages 28-29 in The Crab with the Golden Claws

#tintin #adventures of tintin #comic #captain haddock #archibald haddock #snowy #milou #fanart #the crab with the golden claws #i remember tintin crafting a trumpet to communicate with an elephant #and he remarks he must get the accent correct #very odd scenario but it shows he would be a stickler for that sort of thing #i also have to say accents do not indicate how smart someone is #a lot of pundits use an english accent to sound more credible #but i have to say there are a lot of fucking idiots here #me included #thank you 2011 film for validating my scottish haddock headcanon #any french speakers who have read to this point i wonder what your hcs are for his french speaking accent

[marshmallowgoop]

I combined footage from my Detektiv Conan Blu-ray with audio from my Case Closed FUNimation DVD and made an HD English dub clip compilation for Episodes 57-58, "The Holmes Freak Murder Case."

#detective conan #case closed #video #funimation english dub script #i wasn't actually gonna post this video to tumblr because it's so long (because i have a lot of feelings about this case!) #but folks on discord liked it and i'm all about my funi dub propaganda so why not right? #the dub script here is just so fun--and does so well at making the dialogue *work* and sound natural in english #and has so much flavor! it does arguably too much in terms of creative liberties but things like #'can i really trust what a kid saw?' of the sub translation compared to 'and what were you smoking before you ran out there?' in the dub #are much more enjoyable to me #(other fun phrasings: 'the one who's always hangin' around you guys' (sub) vs. 'the little-bitty one with the great big brain!' (dub)) #(and 'of course not! the reason i applied for this tour was 'cuz i thought i might find kudo' (sub)) #(vs. 'who me? no no no. actually i signed up because i was hoping to run into jimmy here. but i guess i'm out of luck' (dub)) #(and so many more! this script just has so much character) #and while it is a shame that the dub eliminated heiji's accent i do like the changed line ('i know it's you!') #'cause you've met shinichi *once* heiji lol #but yeah this is a fun case! i'm really happy to have finally hd'd the funi dub for it :') #one of my favorite things about the funi dub is that jerry jewell (shinichi's va) voices conan's thoughts #and it's so nice to hear *shinichi* and heiji deducting together (and the way they finish each other's thoughts and vibe... it gets to me)

[o0anapher0o]

I also need a minute to go feral over Armand’s accent.

How is everyone on this show so good at those!?!

We don’t even need to talk about Jacob, but Sam and Bailey were doing a great job, too. I know Sam get’s some ribbing for his French (which is honestly not terrible, it’s just not as good as Jacob’s), but the way he does Lestat’s accent is actually really fantastic. The way it waxes and wanes  and changes throughout the show is very deliberate and effective.

And now Assad, too?

Because Armand’s accent is a mess. It’s all over the place and I love it! It makes so much sense. The guy hasn’t even spoken his native language in 450 years. English is probably Armand’s like 15th language, that he picked up reading the minds of tourists and soldiers from all over the world. Of course it’s a bit of this a bit of that with some French in it and some Italian and some whoever knows what.

And it’s such an obvious thing now that it’s there, it’d be so easy to say ‘yes of course that’s what he sounds like’, but how many actors would put in the effort to play with that and how many shows would give them the time and space to do that rather than just tell him to do a generic RP accent and leave it at that.

#I hope Assad does so much promo for this season #I need to look into his brain #like he didn't needed to do this #no one would have batted an eye about generic English accent #but he just did #making everything immeasurably harder for himself #taking the risk of people going 'wth is he doing?' #interview with the vampire #amc iwtv #armand #assad zaman #accents

[omgpoindexter]

when we get the omgcp tv show we need an accent coordinator. i was just sat here thinking about how vitally important it is that everyone’s accent is perfect. bitty and jack go without saying but lardo’s boston accent. ransom’s canadian accent also. chowder’s laid back cali accent. nursey’s faux chill new york accent? holster’s western new york accent! don’t know what a maine accent sounds like but dex gotta have one. this is very important to me

#this is probably 99% wrong YES I AM ENGLISH. OK #but i don’t want them all to have Generic American Accent with the exception of bitty being mildly southern #do it properly! #ngozi i trust you. executive producer. it’s important #omgcp

[korvessa]

Bojan really said ”Yes.” before Jere could even finish his question about Bojan coming to Finland (if Käärijä wins).

Also Jere being so excited about Bojan’s possible visitation to Finland (if Käärijä wins) that he started to speak Finnish.

#smooth boys both of them #this is so skfjjdksb #you have money WHEN you win the eurovision he says #what do WE do if I win he asks #why is Bojan so pleased when Jere said he puts a bed for him #also this live proved Bojan’s obbsession to Jere’s accent/english/whatever because he just keeps repeating everything he says #it’s cute #bojan cvjetićanin #käärijä

[nostalgia-tblr]

I feel like anyone who's about to embark on attempting to type out a character's accent phoentically (at least as well as one can with English) should probably stop for a moment before they get going and ask themselves, "How would I, myself, feel about a fic where the one character who sounds like me had their speech written out like this and every other character just got their dialogue left in standard spelling?" I feel like a lot of people would tone it down a bit, at least, if they'd done that thought experiment first.

(Anyone who answered "but I don't have an accent!" isn't allowed to write out anyone else's accent, ever. This rule may seem harsh but you need it. Really, you do. Because you've never had anyone treat your accent as abnormal or comical or wrong, so you really don't know what you're inflicting on others here.)

#writing stuff #have you read that fic where the socially prestige accent is the one being carefully typed out “like it sounds”? no? neither have i :( #the obvious note-for-Americans on typing out UK accents is that most of them carry some connotation of class and/or 'education' #within the uk: ask yourself why a Geordie gets typed out but not some dude from the Home Counties #typing out an accent is - usually - a roundabout way of saying “this person talks WRONG! they're not NORMAL!” #you may also find 'Scottish Twitter' informative for the distinction between in-group and out-group 'transcriptions' of accent/dialect #(i use that example only cos I'm Scottish btw) #(oh yes EVERYONE thinks I have an accent! and many of them attempt to replicate it badly in text!) #fun story: one time i had to learn the [IPA] for a linguistics class and the examples were 'standard' English pronunciations #and I went in the next day BAFFLED by why the book insisted that 'boot' and 'foot' don't contain the same vowel sound #(cos they fuckin do don't they?!) #the tutor explained and was v interested in the fact that to me they're the same. i was then asked to demonstrate again for the class. #but i - alas - was not offered repeated examples of however the fuck people say boot and foot in RP :( #(this was IN SCOTLAND btw) #anyway mibbe jist dinnae dae it? mibbe? #and if you do you have use the actual IPA. there now i've made it more trouble than it's worth for most people.

[faustodisco]

Actually if we want to talk about the lilienne/joyce ship I would like to bring up that it plays into the bourgeois woman’s fantasy of class dynamics in a relationship (à la lady chatterley), as well as the upper/middle class idea that their identity as women supersedes said class dynamics (and therefore they believe themselves to be in no position to oppress women of the working class) in a way that lends itself to reactionary movements like TERF ideology. As someone who lives in the uk and has been heavily affected by said ideology, joyce actually put me on high alert just by her voice and appearance.

I think it’s a mistake not to acknowledge that joyce is heavily thatcherite coded (the hair, the posh accent etc) especially when compared to lilienne who plays into the working class british woman archetype: she sounds welsh (considered a ‘lower’ accent), has young children, is a widower etc. It is fairly common to see the ‘confident mum who has to single-handedly support her young family’ in soap operas and other media, and she definitely plays into that stereotype.

Anyway, the ship is on the surface level a fun one, but let’s not overlook the framing as a one-sided and rather sinister set-up.

#does this make any sense I always write these very late at night for some reason. might revise my wording later lol. #disco elysium #lilienne the net picker #joyce messier #also want to clarify: when I say that welsh is a lower accent I am of course talking about the perspective of the upper class who tend to #lean towards queen’s english or a sort of high scottish if they have old clan status #accents in this country are considered indicative of upbringing and financial status that tends to get overlooked by usamericans #when they talk about people here lol #ALSO because I see people adding this in the tags: I do think the ship is fun when explored from a darker angle #I do love toxic relationship stuff I’m not morality policing lol. go crazy.

[majorshatterandhare]

Okay, accent/pronunciation post.

In Hereward the Wake, Tim pronounces “duty” with a /j/ (yod) which creates a pronunciation something like /ˈdjuː.ti/ in the IPA or “dyoo-tee” in English phonetic spelling. From what I can tell, this is one of two common pronunciations in English accents, the other being /ˈdʒuː.ti/ in the IPA or “djoo-tee” in English phonetic spelling. This second pronunciation features coalescence of the d and yod to create a dj sound. This can be contrasted by Rachel’s pronunciation of “duty” in Alice, which features yod dropping, and can be written as /ˈduː.ti/ in the IPA or “doo-tee” in English phonetic spelling. Although Tim is doing a very odd accent in Hereward, it doesn’t really matter in this case. In Riddle of the Sphinx he pronounces “introduced” with a coalescence of the d and yod (/ˌɪn. trə ˈdʒuːst/ or “in-truh-djoost”) and regardless of whether it is coalesced or not, as long as it’s not *dropped* it works for our purposes.

Okay, now we get into why this is funny to me. The yod-close back rounded vowel pair (/ju/ or “yoo”) comes to English from French. The French close front rounded vowel sound (/y/, I have no idea how I’d write this in English phonetic spelling, but make the inside of your mouth like you’re gonna say “ee” and your lips like your gonna say “oo” and that’s how you make it) came into English and was separated into /i/ and /u/ (or “ee” and “oo”) but then the /i/ was replaced with yod. This was not only applied to words that came from French, but also some pre-existing English words as well (and is now applied to foreign words once they’ve been in English long enough, like “Cuba”).

Now, when did the yod-close back rounded vowel pair enter English? Well, when was English heavily influenced by French? That’s right, when the Normans took over. And who fought the Normans? Hereward!

This lead me to the idea of an Anglish translation of Hereward the Wake. Has anyone done that yet?

[Note: information on the yod-close back rounded vowel pair came from this video by Dr. Geoff Lindsey; IPA representations were taken from the online Cambridge Dictionary and Wikictionary and adjusted where necessary (such as making “introduce” into “introduced”). Also I’m not actually positive that Tim doesn’t coalesce the d and yod in “duty”, it sounds kinda like both to me, but either way it comes from the French which is the important part for this post.]

#baaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh #okay so nothing i state in this am i sure about. this is my understanding based on what little i know about linguistics etc etc #also the point was using pronunciation that we ultimately have because of the normans in a song about a guy who hated the normans. #i fucking love the accent he does for hereward. i could just talk about that. about what i like about it. #but mostly it boils down to enjoying it *because its interesting.* #i do not know *why* he does such an accent for it. but i like it. #the mechanisms #hereward the wake #gunpowder tim #tim ledsam #accent discussion #i guess also part of the point is that i suspect it was not intentional and thats just part of his accent #but i dont know. i havent specifically listened to everything i can to search for another instance of consonant-yod coalescence from him. #well. consonant-yod coalesnence that isnt present in my accent is what id be looking for. because some words have it in english generally- #speaking. like ‘picture’ (pic-chur or sometimes pit-chur) and ‘actually’ (ack-choo-lee or ack-choo-uh-lee)

[kennyomegasweave]

Sooo. With the bad dubbing of First and Soong's scenes twice now are we ready to talk about how their English was never "unintelligible" or "stilted", they just had accents? And the dubbing over cause y'all couldn't handle accented english is worse? Or no?

#Playboyy #Playboyy the series #I'm not sorry #it sat extremely poorly with me to see so many posts about their 'bad English' cause it was never bad #they just have accents cause it's not their first language #there's been instances where you can tell the actors are having to do English dialogue they're not comfortable with #but that never seemed to be the case here #they just have strong accents #that's all #and even if you wanna say 'oh I couldn't understand them cause of their accents' #bitch you have subtitles on anyway so please stop #regular clyde

[quatregats]

This is probably Bush and also Pullings's native dialect (though I have many MANY doubts about what exactly the methodology being used here was)

#they have texts and they have informants and they have the informants read the text but i'm not really sure how that's supposed to work #anyways this is definitely the dialect pullings grew up speaking since afaik he's the son of hampshire farmers #apparently chichester is in area 5 as well so also falls under this categorization #this is very unrigorous research btw. please take everything i am saying with a grain of salt i'm just fiddling around with an old book #i'll look for a good basic primer on history/dialectology of english at the library at some point perhaps #i do not have the historical context/cross-references to verify any of this guy's claims #i just really like dialect and english-language ones are so much fun what with all the crazy vowel combos #and apparently lots of rhoticity??? he's claiming this accent was also rhotic which is a little insane #would love to read a history of rhoticity in english tbh #perce rambles #adventures in historical sociolinguistics #percy yells at cecil scott #The Creative Endeavor and other aubreyad nonsense #if you go to the source there's a lot of texts in this section i just picked one

[always-a-joyful-note]

Just finished watching the RabbiTube videos on YouTube (thank you, Bamco, for doing official English subs for them) and I am very much willing to bet that Toma's "leT'sA cOOOOOkiNgO, fReNchIE tOAStO!" is a meme in the i7 universe

#fandom spamdom #note's notes #idolish7 #guys help me.....i dont usually make headcanons for things in public but i guess people are right when they say.... #...smaller fandoms push out the creator in you #anyway im also willing to be that tamaki and nagis videos also generated memes in the i7 universe #actually that DOES remind me that i7 did SO well in tackling fan culture BUT THEY FORGOT THE MEMES #....wait do idol fandoms even have memes? #maybe they dont....but at least yamatos movies should have memes? though thats acting....and im rambling now #anyway letsa coookingo frenchie toasto #<-note that i am only making fun of it because tomas va is actually fluent in english so this was him faking a really bad accent.... #....which makes that moment in pt 4 all the more funny

[autistic-katara]

due to the amount of fics where ppl take non-american characters and make them american for no reason other than uwu it’s the stuff i know or whatever i may have to set all my fics abt american media in scotland

#i wish i knew gaelic that would make it 10x better #inspired by me seeing a “gauken au” or whatever where of bsd where they easily could’ve just made it a normal highschool au #stop with this is centrism PLEASE #anyways might put some hints in the st fic i’m writing that it’s actually not entirely canon compliant and is actually a scotland au #everything else is the same but they meet in primary 1 not kindergarten and u have to read it in a scottish accent #might do this for english media too bcz heartstopper would’ve been sm better if they were a bit further north #also if for some reason u haven’t guessed i’m scottish if u need that clarified #ryan shut the fuck up

[todayisafridaynight]

i cant explain it but daigo being subtitled to just be like 'you're making me look like i have no balls' feels so illegal and wrong. hilarious but something's off

#snap chats #WAIT I HAVE TO INTERRUPT THIS POST WITH THE FUNNIEST SHIT #SO I WAS GETTING FOOD FROM MY SCHOOL'S DINING HALL AND YOU CAN WRITE DOWN WHAT YOU WANT ON A SHEET YEAH #AND I SAID I WANTED A SAMMY AND FRIES OK BUT WHEN I GET MY PLATE ITS JUST FRIES #AND YK W/E OK I'LL JUST EAT THAT BUT THEN. WHILE IM LIKE. GETTING PIZZA TO SUB IT YEAH #I HEAR THE COOKS BE LIKE 'yoo why do we just have a sandwich here' AND THE BIN IT #AND I WAS LIKE 'was that a chicken sandwich cause uhhh <:)' AND THE WOMAN WAS JUST ':OOO IM SO SORRY' #LIKE DAWG /IM/ SRRY I FEEL BADLKAJLJ but yeah. they were nice enough to make me another one 😭 #ok. back on topic with this fuckin post SORRY. i just have all these potatoes and a pizza to eat with this sadnwich now #i didnt eat breakfast or lunch so its ok. moving on #watch me explain it lol. i think its just cause its hard fr me to imagine daigo even saying balls like that. in jp or english #like he just doesnt have the Oomph to do it like the kansai bitches #see this how i know jo from kansai.... that easy as balls to imagine... #LIKEIM TELLING YOU THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO CAN SAY BALLS AND MEAN IT ARE KANSAI/EAST COAST BITCHES #in regards to eng its the accent... you just put a heavy mphasis on the b yk... any east coast bitches know what im talkin bout #or am i insane.it could be both idk #its cause in context he looks so meek like no !!!!! you dont be shy about balls talk !!!!!!! #I JUST IMAGINE HIM SAYING IT SO POLITE LIKE NO !!!! YOU HAVE TO SAY IT WITH FEELING. WITH YOUR BALLS #anyway daigo bb ily and i care for you but youre not hard enough to say balls #which is the most insaane thing i could say considering Daigo And His History but yk... im right...

[the-valiant-valkyrie]

everybody please consider the fact that solaris is probably a native swiss-french speaker with me okay??

#ieytd #commander solaris #i've known for months that she's probably a french native but i just learned yesterday that french and swiss-french have unique quirks #like. swiss-french sounds more antiquated because they use a lot of words that classic-french has replaced with modern equivalents? #also apparently classic-french people find swiss-french accents unsexy. SAD. dw solaris they're so wrong. and youre so sexy okay?? #your voice? solaris? #i have a comic i would make abt this concept but i've been holding off on it bc i'm trying to decide whether it would be worth it to- #-actually use french (a language i do not know) or to bite the bullet and translate it into english so i don't. mess up the french. #i guess you'll see if i make it

[whalehouse1]

Also as a BluePulse shipper, finding out Bart is based in Alabama (I know, I know his vernacular would be different due to his age and upbringing along with his culture but I’m going to do what comics do with language and culture just for this) has been a gift for this reason alone.

JL member: What are you two doing?

Bart: Why nuthin’ much stranger. We’re just two swee’d yun’ southern boys havin’ a swell ol’ time.

Jaime: We’re jus’ ea’din’ sum go’ ol’ American apple pie an’ enjoyin’ the pleasure of eachothah’s company.

#bart allan #bart allen #Jaime Reyes #impulse #blue beetle #impulse dC #bluepulse #I know Jaime also is not that kind of southern either #but they both are around that drawl and tell me them doing it would not be hilarious #and they just throw out the same stereotypes others have on those with that dialect #because neither are from it so they just make it up as they go #and Jaime definitely has some type of southern drawl even if it’s not the one ppl think of when they say southern #they kid was raised bilingual his English and Spanish would not have an accent to it

[skepticalcatfrog]

Okay, I need to know. Anyone else who has listened to the Secret Shanghai audiobooks (because that's how I'm reading them), does it bother you when the narrator doesn't do the accents that characters are supposed to have?

#like i LOOOOOOOVED that the narrator for the first two books (specifically ove) gave benedikt a russian accent #i LOVED it #and i liked celia and rosalind having french accents too #and im pretty sure that for them it's specifically described that they do? #but the narrator for the second three books doesn't do accents for ANY of the main cast except for the characters who are english #and i get not being able to do certain accents but i think she does do both french and russian accents for characters who appear on the side #just not the main characters who are supposed to have them #it bugs me a little #these violent delights #our violent ends #foul lady fortune #foul heart huntsman #last violent call #secret shanghai #chloe gong #juliette cai #roma montagov #romajuliette #benedikt montagov #marshall seo #benmars #alisa montagova #rosalind lang #orion hong #celia lang #oliver hong #olivercelia #phoebe hong #silas wu #philas