#also when i say i have criticism about tumblr faves it doesn't mean i ONLY have negative things to say

[airenyah]

hi!! i'm the struggling with trying to get my point across in english anon!

SO i just woke up and read your answer on gillian's blog thank you so much???? i feel SEEN you totally get what i mean, "because how do i say "anspielen" in english?" that's exactly it!!! my first language is actually spanish but that's literally how i feel when i try to write anything

there's always that one thing i really want to say but i struggle with because even though i'm writing in english and thinking in english this very specific word or this very specific feeling is in spanish for me, the very core of it, and so the whole sentence in my head doesn't make sense, there's actually not a sentence anymore. it can be really overwhelming because thoughts keep piling up but there's nowhere/no way to put them out there!

what you said about trying to describe it feels like a good idea honestly, it can be chaotic but at the same time maybe it ends up making even more sense than i originally planned

(you talking about all this with your mom is the cutest thing! actually TALKING about this, not just writing about it has to be so cool!)

you have no idea how much your words and advice helped me and just how much sense they make to me, you seem like such an articulate person, if those were your thoughts spilling out as they came to you well you are really good at this! would love to read more about them and all the interesting things you have to say about acting!

i'll try to share my thoughts for it to become a habit, baby steps, short sentences in the tags feels like a good place to start

thank you again <3

heyyyy anon!! sorry i'm replying only now, i was out with a friend all day yesterday and when i came back in the evening i had no energy for any more socializing...

aaaaanyway, glad to hear my thoughts helped!! i was a little worried no one would read my addition since it's so long, but i'm really happy to hear that this was exactly what you needed <3

(this is getting long again, so read more it is hahaha)

re: english is hard

yes, expressing oneself is really difficult, isn't it? in my experience, i've learned that sometimes i just have to accept that i simply can't say this one thing in that exact moment or at least i can't say it exactly in the way i want to...

it's really sad, depressing, and frustrating but!! as i said, sometimes you can get around it by simply explaining what you mean and giving examples. it takes much more effort that way, of course, but at least you'll get your point across!! you can make people understand this way!!

and sometimes there are words that are similar enough so you can use those instead. a little bit of what you REALLY want to say is likely to get lost this way, but again, at least you're communicating something

this is actually done in translation sometimes. when there is a word or a concept where there is no equivalent in the target language then translators might go either with the closest one there is (for example, in german there is no word that has the exact same vibe as the word "awkward". so depending on the context a tranlsator might go with the word "unangenehm" instead which actually means "uncomfortable", or the word "peinlich" which means "embarrassing"). or if that doesn't work then a translator might simply just explain the word/the concept (i know this bc i study translation at uni and my profs have talked about this hahaha)

and as i said in the other post, i promise it will get easier over time! it's just important that you actively keep trying

and yeah, i think the tags are a great place to start! you can reblog a gifset and you can start with saying specific things like "i like [insert aspect] of this scene because [insert reason]" or "this line is making me feel [insert emotion]" or "[character]'s expression in the 3rd gif looks like they're thinking [insert thought]" or "this scene reminds me of [parallel scene] because [insert reasons]"

and another thing that is important: keep your eyes and ears open! pay attention to the words/concepts that you struggle to express in english and keep a look-out for how other people would talk about this thing in english. this is why it's also important to also keep reading other people's things, because some day you might stumble across a word or a phrase that will make you go ohhhhh so THIS is how i can express this thought

as i also mentioned in the other posts, sometimes you can take a shortcut 😆 but that only works if it's a specific topic that you don't know how to talk about in a different language... then you can go look for "parallel texts": at my uni that means if i have to write an article about the topic of car-free cities for an exam but i don't know how to talk about car-free cities in italian then i'll go read articles on car-free cities in italian so i can see exactly what words and phrases they use and i make a list (yes i had an exam about this topic last month and yes i ended up with a six a4-page word list for italian hahaha), "parallel text" basically means you look for the exact text type that you want to write/say (can be an oral text as well) but in your target language so you can compare and find out what the most common words/phrases are to express specific thoughts and concepts of this topic. which is the exact thing i need to do in order to solve my problem of not being able to talk about acting in english, actually.... (someone get me off my lazy butt and make me go read about acting in english 😩)

plus if all comes to worse: your native language is spanish, right? many people speak spanish in the world, not just as native speakers but also as a 2nd language! so why not simply make the post in spanish? sure, it might reach less people but there will definitely be a few that will understand what you're saying (and you might end up making good friends and some of them might be able to help you figure out how to express certain topics in english)

re: talking about bl with my mom

yeees, it's a thing we do! sometimes i'll make my mom sit down and make her watch a drama with me and then sometimes she'll sit me down and make me watch a drama with her

it actually started in like 2018 or so? i happened to watch a japanese drama i stumbled across on netflix and i happened to watch it in the living room via our projector and my mom came home and walked past and was like "what are you watching?" and i was like "wanna join?" bc i was only about 4 eps or so in and my mom did join and was really intrigued bc the japanese had a different acting style from what she was used to in western media

and so a while later netflix recced a chinese drama to her and so she got curious and that's how my mom got into chinese drama 😆 at some point i also managed to get her into kpop (despite not listening to kpop myself -- this is a whole other long story hahaha) and so she also got into kdramas and then lockdown happened and i got super obsessed with why r u (my very first thai drama rip) and my mom was like "i want to watch this show you're obsessed with, i want to know how the thais do it in comparison to the other asian countries" and so in the end i did watch it with her and since then thai drama has been on that list too 😂

and since i had started drama school about half a year before the pandemic happened i was starting to really understand how acting works and so it's been super interesting taking apart dramas with her. my mom has an insane eye for things and i've learned incredibly much, in fact i'm STILL learning from her, it's amazing

and yes, it's fantastic being able to actually talk about it!! it's so much fun (and hilarious sometimes, because we'll be sitting on the couch, completely tearing apart a drama and my brother will walk past and he'll be all confused and go "why are you even watching it if you hate it so much????" and we'll be like "cause it's GOOD!!!!".... it happened with the eclipse, for example. there were many things that just weren't working out in the show, especially the longer it went on and so we'd thoroughly discussed these things and my brother happened to only ever walk past when we were talking about the bad things and was never around when we talked about the good things, like for example anything that first kanaphan does😆😆😆)

re: me talking about acting

okkkk yes, i understand that you would love to hear my thoughts on acting! i think a lot of people would like to hear them! but to be honest, i wasn't telling the entire truth when i said that not having the words in english was the reason why i don't talk about it

yes, not being able to properly express my thoughts is a big part of it but there are other reasons too why i avoid talking about acting publicly in fandom spaces...

1. insulting fandom faves is like opening a can of worms

i don't like conflict and i like the thoughts of arguing with strangers on the internet even less. however, while there are many positive things to say about the acting in dramas (whether it's bl or not, whether it's the main cast or not) there are also many, many negative things to say about it. and you know, sharing anything negative about someone's faves in fandom spaces..... that's not gonna go well 😅 so i'm a little scared of getting murdered if i dare saying one negative thing about some of the most popular actors. plus, i don't want to ruin other's enjoyment of the dramas and so i think especially on a platform like tumblr where people come to have fun my criticism on acting may not be the right place for it (no one likes negativity in the tags of their fave show, do they...). (yes, i have considered making a youtube channel hahaha)

2. for some concepts you need experience and a trained eye

ok the 2nd reason why else i don't talk about acting is just... it's a whole thing that you actively need to study! where you need to make your own experiences! and if you don't have experience then it can be really difficult to understand what the hell i'm going on about. which is why it's so fantastic that i have my mom, because i can just go up to her and show her a scene and say a single sentence like "this scene isn't working out because [actor] is always doing the same thing, nothing changes". or i can say "did you see all the pictures [actor] has managed to create in the span of two seconds, isn't that amazing????". or i can say "this moment was bad bc the actor is missing the thought that inspired this line". and my mom will understand, you know? (in fact, i don't even have to say that something is bad or good, i can just say things like "nothing changes here" or "look at the pictures" or "the thought is missing" and my mom will immediately understand whether it's a good or bad thing just from that 😆)

and yes, i can try to explain these concepts to a non-experienced person! but this is just really hard to do via a simple tumblr post....

i can explain when i can sit you down next to me and i can talk to you and i can pull up different scenes on my laptop and discuss them in detail, when i can show you different examples to really showcase what i mean. i could pull up good examples and bad examples of a specific concept to make you understand what it means (what "having a thought" means for example)

i actually currently have an analysis project going on with a friend where i'm showing her a sequence of scenes of a korean drama and then that very same sequence of scenes of its taiwanese remake. one has good acting and one has bad acting and so i've been making her look at both sequences and think about how they make her feel and why they make her feel like that and what she can take away from those sequences. my friend has already realized that one version is less fun to watch than the other version and exactly why that is and what the one actors are doing better than the others is what i'll be telling her next time we hang out 😆

but yes, i have an easier time giving her that crash course on acting because we can actually hang out and i can show her so many things. last time i was explaining the concept of "Dringlichkeit" (in english i would call this something like "urgency") to her and she didn't understand and so i was able to show her myself, in person, what it looks like when someone talks with low urgency and what it looks like when someone talks with a lot of urgency and how that has different effects

or when one of my acting teachers explained the concept of "sending" to us he did it by going to the far end of the room, standing in front of the wall with his back turned to us and talking to us, his face turned towards the wall. and at one point he talked to us while sending and at one point talked to us without sending and it was an eye-opening experience

but yeah, i just can't do that on a tumblr post, unfortunately

in conclusion:

so yeah, not having the right words in english, struggling with explainig the concepts to non-experienced people, and not wanting to insult anyone's fave and getting angry anons about it are the three reasons why i don't talk about acting publicly (or at least only rarely)

i have considered making a reaction youtube channel where i talk about these things together with my mom, but the big problem is just our lack of the right vocabulary (and my mom doesn't have much practice in speaking english, so she would struggle even more) and of course, copyright laws. i'd have to figure out how to deal with those first, as well...

if you're still curious about my opinions on acting, if there's anything specific you want to know you can of course come ask me about it, though!! however, i would prefer you do that off anon and come directly into my dms

i don't really mind talking about acting in general, in fact, it's one of my favorite things to do! and i certainly wouldn't mind trying, you know! but as i said, i just don't want to do it publicly. i don't want just anyone being able to see my opinions and get offended. i prefer doing it in the privacy of a private chat with selected people where i know they won't immediately get offended and can take my negative criticism about their faves

#anon you are friend-shaped <3 #ok this got long again but it's ok i think #i mean i DO talk about 3 different topics hahaha #also when i say i have criticism about tumblr faves it doesn't mean i ONLY have negative things to say #for example with nanon (don't kill me) there's scenes in bad buddy where i have a lot of positive things to say about his performance!!!! #but then in other scenes (or maybe just split moments of scenes) i think he could have done a much better job #(which i KNOW he could have bc i have SEEN him do the things in other scenes) #acting is hard... #ok i gotta go i have to do a partner assignment with a uni colleague now and she just texted me byeee #anon #asks

[autistichalsin]

In light of all the bitching about the upcoming patch, I was so happy to hear you’re also not… mad at Larian, I guess? I was wondering if I’m missing something, because for all its bugs, the game is fine the way it is, to me. More than fine, it’s a great game, the first that really means something to me since Dishonored. Idk, I’m literally over here just vibing, glad I’m not alone in that 😌

I noticed there's been a trend in recent years, I think started by those media that truly DID become horribly disappointing as it went on (last season of GOT, for example), and people started just... like

There is a phase most media get where they are the Best Ever, they Can Do No Wrong. And then one day that phase ends, and suddenly, that media Can Do No Right. Everything is a mistake, everything is wrong, everything is an attempt to cater to one group of fans (who are, of course, the wrong group to cater to) and/or an attempt to spite one group of fans. I think that in this day and age, people sometimes don't understand the difference between consuming media critically, I.E., using critical thinking to understand the themes, plot, and characters, and consuming media critically, I.E. criticizing everything the creators say and do.

So instead of looking for simple explanations, I.E., "different trainings and specialties mean that the division of labor at Larian has a team that works on new animations, but that team is not the same team responsible for bug fixes, so getting new animations from the former isn't why the latter hasn't repaired Polearm Master or Shield Bash or Raphael and Mol's scene yet" they instead assume "Larian only cares about Astarion and Halsin* and are catering to their fans again at the expense of literally everything else"

*The idea that Halsin fans are receiving any kind of special treatment is laughable, but that is very much the accusation being made- i want to see their reaction when they open up patch 6 and see that their fave has new kiss animations too tbh. As for the new scenes datamined for Halsin, those are all in response to complaints made by people who HATE Halsin, not complaints by his fans. A platonic confession scene? A version of the post-breaking the curse scene that doesn't involve flirting? The only two that were made for Halsin fans were fixing his post-Drow dialogue and the ability to go with him at the end, and the latter hasn't been fully implemented yet (you can get a flag saying you chose him, but you don't get to tell him and have him respond yet). But I have seriously digressed.

IDK, it just seems like we're in the phase of fandoms where, since the initial joy of discovering what the game has to offer has worn off, people are getting their dopamine from getting angry instead, and that means making a game of who can have the best hot takes, who or what is the most problematic and deserving of shunning, what have the creators done to fuck over us poor fans, etc.

There are many legitimate criticisms to be made against Larian, I want to be clear here- their treatment of Wyll's character has been horrific, and the interactions between Durge and Astarion should have been given for ALL characters. It is appalling that they have let Minthara's romance be bugged to the point that some people can only trigger it by modding the game because the flags are bugged and that they have allowed Halsin's voice lines to be bugged SINCE LAUNCH causing many to think they don't exist. All of these things deserve to be criticized. But ascribing malice to things like having separate work teams on the game, or the pile-on people started over that "we fixed it so a glitch can't cause Gale to leave your party" patch... Yeah.

It's never a good sign when a fandom starts to collectively chase the high that comes from being The Angriest. It doesn't seem to be as prevalent on here as on Twitter, thankfully (ironically, speaking as someone who was on this site since before Superwholock, the most toxic parts of Tumblr moved to Twitter after the porn ban, and now it's mostly rational people on here) but we are rapidly sliding towards the "do you people even like this game or do you like the version of it you created in your head?" phase of fandom that everyone dreads.

[nalyra-dreaming]

Why are some people acting like "Louis fans" dominate the IWTV/VC fandom, ruling with an iron fist and ex-communicating anyone who disagrees with them? Lol! Lestat is still by far the most popular character of the VC and he has the biggest fanbase on Tumblr or any other platform including Twitter. Louis fans are a minority and fans of colour are an even smaller minority. We do not have the power to "silence" anyone or to force them to deactivate their accounts like that other anon claimed.

And to the anon who said Louis's tag only has nice things, maybe that's because common Tumblr courtesy usually dictates that if you have negative things to say about a character/ship, you don't post it in the tag. Especially if you don't want said character's fans to respond to you. And last time I checked, Lestat's tag is also mostly cute fanart and gifs because that's how it's supposed to be. Tags are supposed to be a place for fans to share content and interact with each other, not for them to be hit with a barrage of hateful things about a character they love.

This narrative that Louis fans are some sort of mob that goes around harassing anyone who dares to criticize their fave is just not true. When a few crazies were harassing the writers on Twitter the other day, everyone on here, including the biggest Louis blogs, agreed that it was inappropriate and made posts about how it does not represent all of us.

I'm sorry that you were getting a lot of unnecessary hate. I'm not even sure why your blog was targeted when there are other blogs posting some vile hateful shit in the tags about Louis fans and no one is responding to them, because again, most of us just simply block and move on with our lives. But again, hate from a few anons doesn't mean that all Louis fans should be lumped in the same basket or that valid concerns about the racism in this fandom should be ignored.

Sorry for the long ask but I feel like it needed to be said.

:) No need to be sorry for the length^^ (or the ask).

(Re "my blog" being on the receiving end of the asks: I kinda feel a bit like that "narutoshippingconfessions " blog rn^^, you know?)

I think there could be certain efforts right now to make it look more organized than it may be, if that makes sense? And the targeted comments on fics are a fact, unfortunately, and they vary in... intensity, so there's that. I hope I have made clear that I do not support this... leveraging of groups against each other. And I wished that there would not be these kind of subsets tbh, I personally, me myself and I :))... I would rather us to be one fandom.

With discussions and addressing of issues that are raised and need to be raised, instead of hate. (And I know that not all anons are the same, no worries^^)

Then again I have seen a lot of good discussions here in this fandom, too. Maybe we just need a bit more time. Season 1 was a shock to the system after all, right?

#asks #iwtv #interview with the vampire #ask nalyra

[outrunningthedark]

I actually blame the people who keep hanging on to their every word week after week no matter how way off the mark they end up being.

If the “queer Eddie” posts ( and the massive backtracking they tried to do when they turned out to be wrong ) didn’t open people’s eyes then I don’t know…

It wouldn’t be such a problem if they didn’t act like they were speaking like they know exactly what’s going to happen when in reality they’re guessing just as much as the rest of us.

I think the folks you're talking about get a lot of attention and "respect" because they usually are writers themselves and thus have a way with words that just...makes fans want to believe in everything they say. I also think most are against admitting when they're wrong for two specific reasons: 1. Not wanting to be seen as "a hater" [How dare we criticize anything about season five!!! It was BRILLIANT!!! /s]

2. They've dug their heels in on canon-Buddie and admitting the story isn't going how they wanted or predicted would mean acknowledging that they don't actually know what the plan is for these two. But doing so would result in a loss of followers/credibility and they're not willing to risk that. Tumblr is probably the place where they feel the most valued. 😬😬 Some of the things a certain circle in fandom had people believing in, yet could not have been more wrong: - Eddie and Hen working together during 5A would help Eddie ~realize things~ because she'd talk about her wife - Let's just say the hostage situation didn't match their theories. At all. - The title Wrapped In Red (a song about confessing your love at Christmastime) was related to Buddie - Lucy was not going to be involved with Buck in any way because "that's not her purpose". 🤭 - Eddie's sexuality would be at least alluded to during his therapy sessions??? - Eddie's breakdown would finally be when Buck initiates physical touch and Eddie allows himself to be held - Eddie going home meant we were getting hints about his sexuality and we'd find out his parents are homophobic as hell [that one's my fave, tbh] - Eddie was leaving Chris home with Buck instead of bringing him to El Paso (shoutout to @blutterlie for always echoing my thoughts) - The beacon bracelet would come into play before BT broke up (or during the break up) because "the writers wouldn't just forget about it." 😶 - Buddie HAD to be sitting together at the wedding (on opposite sides of Chris) because it was "grouped by families" and we'd get more interaction than what actually happened (which was...nothing) - The show made a point to declare TayKay "homeless" so Buck would absolutely give up his loft as a final apology and we'd get Buddie roommates era [In reality, the show pretended she never said that, proving every piece of dialogue in the script doesn't need to be taken so seriously.] Idk, y'all. I think I'd rather be "negative" than praised for my "galaxy brain" only to be dead wrong every time...

#anonymous #tina speaks #911 discourse

[nedlittle]

hey! I liked your piece about the twitter spreadsheet. I generally agree with your observations and conclusions but I'm additionally concerned about the internet dogpiling it's received recently—a problem in its own right. were you aware the list was by a 20 year old girl? and that she clarified she's not saying no one should read them/they should be censored; her intentions were more along the lines of awareness-raising.

obviously she's echoing the "ur fave is problematic" tumblr trends, which I agree are an offshoot of puritanism cloaked in pseudo-leftist terminology, and the reasons on her list are mostly dumb and badly-written. but she's also 1 young person doing this (on what she thought was an account with only a few hundred booktwt followers) when i think lovers of books and literature everywhere still have a lot of reckoning to do with the systemic issues in fiction. wish we could've collectively just not given her list oxygen, because now she's gone viral, doubling down, getting harassed, and locking her account, which seems worse than having a 20-year-old social justice performance phase and then just... maturing out of it like a lot of people.

so yes she's wrong, but twitter (+ the rest of the internet) has gotten so outraged about her list when often the same communities don't do enough about very real issues of racism in fiction, or transphobia in fiction, or other minorities expressing their discomfort. it seems to me like she's just become the internet's scapegoat for channeling all the frustration in the air about purity culture's resurgence towards one lone target.

[on a slight tangent, she was not wrong about rainbow rowell—her books contain suuuuuuper weird depictions of mixed-race people to the point that i, a mixed-race asian, have asked friends not to read her. it's absolutely an individual's choice if they still want to, but that doesn't mean it has my enthusiastic approval solely in the name of anti-censorship sentiment. i just think her books are weird, hurtful, and unhelpful.]

originally i was going to delete this since i didn't have the time or energy to engage since it seems like you just want to vent, but y'know what i will dignify this with a response.

1. yes i'm aware of the op's age. i saw the original tweet when it was posted and checked out her account. i would not have cross-posted the spreadsheet let alone written about it were she 14 or 16. that's punching down on a child. op is, by her own metric since her age no longer has 'teen' in it, an adult. at twenty, the vast majority of the population is either involved with higher education or working, both of which require you to move in adult spaces as an adult yourself whether you feel like one or not. op is 20, i am 25; we are on equal footing in this scenario.

2. nowhere in my piece do i say that she directly calls for censorship of books deemed problematic

3. upfront i am not criticizing her for going viral in an internet safety psa way. however, there are means of limiting who can and cannot interact with your tweets even if you have a public facing account.

3.5. the nature of creating something with the intent to 'educate and spread awareness' is that you post it hoping that other people will see it and go 'oh, i should circulate that through my circles so that my friends can also be educated and aware', and then it continues spreading. that's how the transfer of information works, it's unfortunate that it snowballed the way it did because i saw a bunch of big accounts on my timeline being rude about it

4. in my posts here and my piece i specifically obscured her identity to avoid further harassment and dogpiling

4.5. nowhere in my piece do i make any personal attacks on her character. i say her choice of criticisms are "weird", mention the typos (because if you're going to post a call out the least you can do is get people's names right), say the whole thing is well-intentioned but silly, and call her methodology "ridiculous" & critique the spreadsheet as a symptom of the larger trend of tiktok gen z anti-intellectualism

5. "the same communities don't do enough about very real issues of realism in fiction, or transphobia in fiction" this was like....one of my main arguments in the piece, that deplatforming virgina woolf or ayn rand won't do anything (well... deplatforming rand may, if we can get rid of libertarians) but authors like jkr and helen oyeyemi are still doing active harm without widespread reproach. i was glad to see that oyeyemi was even on the list and upset that the transphobia in one of her books was getting sidelined in favour of making fun of the typos. that's something i highlighted in both my piece and a subsequent reblog of the post i made about the spreadsheet.

6. the modus operandi of being like "hello i saw a [tweet/post/video/photo etc] about X, which is an example of issue Y, let's talk abt it' is not something i made up. this is no different than if we were feuding shakespeare scholars duking it out via academic journals

7. nowhere in my piece do i say that she is the only example of the issues i'm talking about. i say that it's part of a larger trend, and it is. the spreadsheet is a very visible example of discussion that i have seen on various social medias, among my own social circles, and regurgitated by published ya authors and grown-ass adults

additionally, this website has several pages dedicated to problematic authors, many of whom also appear on the spreadsheet. the website is correctly spelled, alphabetized, and cited, but also listed tacitus as a code-red problematic author which, like, tacitus's histories and the antisemitism rampant in those histories are integral to the way we study western history and historiography. he was also born in 56 CE. i think he's been cancelled and analysed plenty in 2000 years.

8. tacitus tangent aside, i would like to stress that neither this account nor my twitter, on which i also posted in response to the spreadsheet and which has less than 200 followers, are Big Accounts. there is a world of difference between a blue check journalist writing the same article, with her name and handle left in, and getting a substantial sum for it. the platform i publish most of my writing on pays 1¢ approximately every 12 views. my post popular article has been read about 2000 times and earned $12. thank you for your time goodbye

#answered

[destinyc1020]

Possessive anon here, It's pretty much everywhere it's on Twitter, IG, Tumblr, any mention of a relationship with Z with somebody else always gets tomdayas riled up. It's almost as if they want her to only exist as an extension of Tom, everything she does has to be a reflection of him almost. They pretty much stripped her of her own autonomy. If you post the kissing scene in Dune, you are automatically labeled as a timdaya, You talk about her friendship with Hunter then you're a shipper and hate Tom, even Darnell is a problem because he's always with her. I can understand people being insecure on Tom's behalf but the dynamic is very well shifted when it comes to Tom. They cheer when he is hanging out with his friends and family. Several Tumblr accounts post non-stop kissing scenes from cherry, TCR etc. without the same reaction. And I know they don't really like her because everything she does is always criticized, from her career to endorsement deals, to her family It's like she's never good enough but yet they want her around as some trophy gf. Also, you can pick up how they feel from the tendency they have to always post negative anon comments about her. I hope I'm not coming across as an anti, I have absolutely no problem with tz's relationship itself but I'm trying to understand the tomdaya fandom.

Thanks for clarifying what you meant by this Anon.

You asked for it! You can either read my TL;DR version, or my looooong version. It's up to you! 😅

TL;DR Version:

I think you might be following the wrong "Tomdaya Outlets" 🤔

I actually think this happens on BOTH sides of the fandom 👀

I have many various theories as to why this stuff might happen

It might be best for you to evaluate your "Tomdaya" outlets, cuz I'm not so sure they're really Tomdaya fans...

The LONG Version:

I'll be honest Anon, my initial reaction when I read your ask here is that you might just be following the WRONG accounts (wherever that may be), because I personally don't follow accounts that tend to put down Tom or Z together, OR separately.

Minor hangups, constructive criticism, or even light teasing of your fave is ONE thing.... but when it starts getting into cruel, mean, rude, or hurtful remarks, (especially on a regular basis) I'm like, why are you even a fan??

Either that, or you're following mainly Tom stans who are mainly fans of him, and merely only tolerate Zendaya, his gf. 😒

I'll just say, I think that MOST true Tomdaya fans are equally fans of both Tom AND Z, and support them both! So, if you're noticing a huuuge difference, then I'm just not so sure that everyone you think is a Tomdaya fan, is actually a true Tomdaya fan. You might want to evaluate that. 🤔 Some of these fandoms overlap.

One thing I will say Anon is that your complaint about Z (how she doesn't exist autonomously from Tom) is actually a complaint that I've seen other fans make about Tom as well. 🤷🏾‍♀️ In fact, even I'll admit myself that it seems to me that Z has more autonomy and an "image" at times that separate from Tom, whereas, Tom doesn't seem to have that as much.

Don't get me wrong, they both have a life outside of each other (which is just healthy for any couple imo), but imo, it seems like in their professional and media life, it seems sometimes like Tom is just an extension of Zendaya when the media refers to him. Almost like, the media doesn't really separate him from his relationship.

I was even telling a friend the other day here on Tumblr that it almost feels as though I can't really find any Tom ONLY blogs here on Tumblr that DON'T have anything to do with Tomdaya. 👀 Oh I see TONS of Tomdaya blogs on here lol 😆 TONS!! Lawwwd..... Tons of Tomdaya shipping blogs lol. But I don't find as many Tom solo blogs, and it's sometimes kinda frustrating. 😔 Yet, I'll see Zendaya solo blogs on here all the time.... or even solo blogs dedicated to other actors that are separate from their relationship.

Idk... Maybe it's just me?? 🤷🏾‍♀️

It's not a big deal, but it's just smthg I've picked up on.

So, I kind of think that it kinda goes both ways Anon. 🤔

With regards to what you are saying about fans getting jumped on for posting the Z kissing scene in Dune, or her with other costars....

I think what it might be is that a lot of Tomdaya fans have had to deal with Antis now for at least 6 years. AND, keep in mind too that a lot of HATE sometimes might come out whenever pics of Z and her male costars are in a kiss scene, because for some ODD reason, ppl on Twitter somehow don't know how to separate acting from reality when it comes to Z. 🥴

The there are the Timdayas also to deal with... 🙄

Like, lot just gets old. 😩 Is it any wonder why some Tomdaya fans get a bit on edge? They know that whenever smthg like that comes out, either Tom is gonna get a bunch of hate or jokes at his expense thrown his way on Twitter, or, ppl are gonna be trying to ship Z with the man on the moon, and any guy within a 10-mile radius. 🙄

For some reason, the same doesn't happen with Tom when the roles are reversed. So, maybe some feel more comfortable to post pics of him kissing his costars, because maybe the reaction is different and most ppl aren't as weird about it. (Although, the bathroom scenes in TCR seemed to rile ppl up for some reason 🥴).

You have to keep in mind, Zendaya grew up on nickelodeon and the Disney Channel. So, many of us either grew up watching her, or knowing who she was for years before Tom became Spiderman and came on to our radar. 🤷🏾‍♀️ That might also be why some fans have such a weird association with her, or freak out when she's kissing ppl onscreen or doing sex scenes lol 😆 I have no clue lol. To me, I just look at it as ACTING..... because that's exactly what it is. 🤷🏾‍♀️

[wenellyb]

hey, i hope this doesn't come of as rude but i'm new to the sambucky fandom and just saw all the problematic stuff sebastian has done in the past — & people being disappointed that his apologies are never genuine and that he still defends his racist girlfriend.... ugh it just leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. i mean, i still love bucky, bc you can separate the character from the actor but still... do you have an opinion on this situation? <3 pls don't take this as hate in any way, i just think keeping in mind that anthony is directly affected by this it's just weird, you know?

Hi Anon,

So first of all, I would like to say that I'm NOT Sebastian, so this isn't rude, at all. Don't worry about it😉.

I don't think this is hate, and it's totally valid that you feel that way.

I understand why you think this is hate. It's because Tumblr is a weird weird place, where instead of listening, stans will get angry at Black fans for voicing their valid criticism of their White fave (That's what happened years ago when that instragram post was published), the worst part is when they start acting like they understand racism and they "know Seb" and Seb isn't racist. And those same people will consider valid critics for an actor's actions as being "anti".

This is not me saying anything about Seb, this is me saying that the fandom has a tendecy to just ignore anything that would burst their perfect bubble and paint their fave in a negative light.

So yeah, I feel you, if you feel disappointed or feel like you should focus on Bucky, but separate his character from Seb, do it! There is nothing wrong with that.

The only part I don't know enough about is the girlfriend part, I don't know enough about his girlfriend, I think I have an old ask somewhere, but other than that, I don't know anything about her, and if I'm being honest, I don't care. I'm just not a big fan of pinning someone's actions on someone else. But honestly, I don't know enough celebrity gossip to make a comment about the girlfriend situation lol.

And yes for separating the character from the actor (but this only works for actors lol, there is no separating directors from their movies, authors from their books or singers from their music, this is just a sidenote lol).

Since you're also asking my thoughts on this , I have already talked about the Sebastian situation, but it was made during the time their were accusations for an Instagram post he made with a Buddha statute. You can read my post below:

1. General comments on the whole Seb thing

I'll just say this: White fans don't get to decide what is and isn't racist. And they don't get to determine when the non-White fans should accept an "apologogy" just so they can feel better and less guilty about still supporting and liking their White fave.

If you want to keep supporting Seb, do it, but without trying to sweep things under the rug and actually listening, instead of getting defensive whenever you're explained something or without acting Black fans are "overreacting" or being "unfair" to him or whatever.

Again, general "you" in this paragraph, not you Anon.

I just have one request to anyone who wants to send me an ask after this post, is to read my other post first, otherwise we will be talking in circles.

Thanks for the ask and not rude, or hateful at all!

#sebastian stan #bucky barnes #anon asks

[rinisbowen]

1/2About the hate that these characters get: people need to chill. All core 4 characters received so much hate. I will talk about s2 bc this is when I started looking for hsmtmts on social media. Ricky and Nini got hate for the actions that led to the breakup. People were so mean and calling them names. Ricky and Nini are not my faves but I felt so bad for the hate they got. EJ got hate for starting to like Gina and have been called names for that. Gina was called a homewrecker when she didn't..

2/2 do anything wrong. Especially on twitter, people's behaviour is so toxic. I know you are a Ricky stan and I am going to talk about him again. As I said, he is not one of my fav characters, but I like him (same goes for Nini). He really got a lot of hate this season and I felt really bad when I read those comments. I know these characters are not real people, but hating on them is so wrong, especially because none of them is a bad person.

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People do need to chill, you're absolutely right anon! There's so much random hate in this fandom that's so overblown, and these characters face a lot of that hate. Season 2 is when I became like- properly involved in the fandom as well online, and I've seen very strong wording used for stuff that truly, at the end of the day, isn't meant to be that deep.

I've personally seen, out of the core four, the most love for Gina. Maybe that's because the twitter universe for this show is mostly full of rina shippers who all love gina. And then on tumblr, there's a lot of portwell shippers who also love gina.

The EJ hate with the Gina thing is so ridiculous to me ngl, I'm not going to get into it a ton, because it's truly not logical to hate on EJ for being interested in Gina. The show doesn't think the age difference is a problem, and so I think there's an understanding that we have to place on the characters. In the narrative, EJ liking Gina is fine, so that's how we have to read it in a character sense. Making EJ a senior in season 1 was probably a mistake in certain ways, but at the same time, this is just how it's shaken out. Disliking EJ for liking Gina and using certain words, (whether it's the stronger ones or just saying it's creepy), is fairly incorrect, frankly.

I will say really quickly, as someone who watched Girl Meets World, there's a lot more criticism to be held when it comes to Joshaya, as opposed to portwell. I don't want my answer read as me saying you're not ever aloud to dislike and criticize things that the narrative is telling us to be okay with. I'm just saying hating on EJ for this is just silly. With Josh and Maya though, he's a literal college student saying he wants to date this freshman in high school. That's weird. No one can tell me it isn't. (And no, the- we'll kinda wait for each other aspect does NOT make that any better). At least with EJ and Gina, it's two school years between them, not four or five... I think people can criticize the narrative of EJ and Gina due to that age difference and such, but I don't think it's okay to hate EJ for it. People just take things too far, that's the moral of this post honestly.

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I feel like a lot of people online either think that Ricky's a horrible person or that Nini is, and I'm very much not of either mind, it's really not that black and white. They both can be selfish in their own ways, and their relationship was devolving at the fault of both of them. My main gripe with the situation is that the show treats it as though Ricky's the only one responsible (and he's the only one to apologize), so thus I'm more likely to try to defend him. I don't even know if he'd be so high up there on my list if not for how he's treated by portions of the fandom. I just feel protective over him? He's genuinely in the place he is because of how mentally shaken he is due to his family issues... Which makes it a lot harder for me to watch him get so many awful comments. His behavior is directly related to his experiences at home. One of my best friends irl really loves Ricky bc it's like- parental issues and also clear mental health issues and that resonates with her a lot.

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At the end of the day, all of these characters are flawed. They've all made their mistakes, a lot of mistakes even. And that's fine. I'd argue that's good actually, it's how we move a narrative. EJ and Gina were even like- the antagonists of sorts in season 1, and they've grown a lot in their arcs since then. It's always good to remember that these characters are teenagers, they're children just trying their best. They're all meant to be good people, and they are. It's just that sometimes even with good intentions, things get messy. That's just how it goes.

I 10000% agree when you say that these may be fictional characters, but that the vitriol against them still feels wrong. It's like- I think everyone's entitled to criticize these characters for their mistakes, they definitely make them. But being mean... is just not quite right. It's like- technically not a huge issue to be mean to fake people, but- it's not great either. If you're so comfortable saying such cruel things about fictional people, it's not a stretch to say that you'd begin to be more comfortable to think or say those things about real ones. And sometimes... it's quite out of pocket. It's not that I think these people who say these hateful things towards the characters are necessarily like that in real life, but it's an exposure thing, we get desensitized to certain behavior through fiction.

#hsmtmts #answered #anonymous #fandom criticism #anti joshaya

[arethereanyoriginalusernames]

ADDISON CHARACTER SPOTLIGHT, PART 2

This post was requested by @zoophobiapika. Sorry this took so long. Apparently Tumblr hates it when I try to add sources. -.- 

Welcome to part two of a series known as Character Spotlight. In this part of it, I give my predictions and analysis of a character. If you'd like to see me critique and give my opinion on this character, please go check out Part 1. As usual, Zoophobia is owned by our Lord and Savior Vivziepop. Please feel free to tell me what you think, and request any posts. With that, I hope you enjoy.

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Oh Jesus, what's this? A post where I don't complain about how the way Addi was written was kind of annoying? What is this black magic? ! Yeah, yeah, I don't like Addi as a critic of zp, but as a casual fan, I like him. He's not my fave, but I like him. Today, let's throw the critic goggles into the fireplace and have some fun.

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First, let's start with what we know.

Name: Addison Woods

Age: Originally, he was going to be 14-15, but allegedly Vivz currently considers him to be 17

Gender: Male

Sexuality : About as straight as a pinwheel. Also, he has a thing for snake people and dudes with accents

Known hobbies : Likes art, and is very talented in this field.

Handicaps : PTSD ( does not like being touched)

Relationships:

Latika - Adoptive mum, cares a lot about Addi, and vice versa

Sasha- step cousin , bugs and teases Addi. Addi doesn't like him

Gustav : Boyfriend, they both find each other attractive, and apparently they end up having a happy, healthy relationship

Damian : Best friend. He enjoys messing with Addi and flirting with him. While they don't hold romantic feelings for each other, they're "friends with benefits ". Addi often is confused by Dame's flirting attempts. They apparently met some time before the story started. 

Sahara: Friend. Apparently these two aren’t as close as Dame and Addi. 

Tom: Addi's ex. They don't seem to be on good terms as Tom is still possessive of Addi.

Mackenzie : I have a lot to say on this, so for the sake of length, I will save this tangent for another time.

Jack : Addi's role model

Zill: Addi has a crush on him

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Let's start with what we know

Addi was originally created by Xirxene. He's basically this artificial life form that is a human/fennec fox ( /cat apparently ) hybrid. He was frequently experimented on, causing him to develop a type of PTSD that causes him to panic whenever he's touched unexpectedly. At some point, he was adopted by Latika, who is best snake mum. He also met Damian some time before the story began. Xirxene is still after him, and members attempt to abduct him. He’s a student in ZPA’s art class, is rather passionate about this field, and is so good he causes poorly introduced and developed relationships to happen.

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So what do I think about Addison?

One thing that stood out to be was Addi’s motivation; Love. Allegedly, he throws himself at guys and, if his and Tom’s relationship is any indication, his relationships don’t last very long. If this is true, and Dame isn’t hyperbolising, why? One would’ve thought that if he does this so often, why hasn’t he learned? Why continue this behavior? I remember reading that Addi, due to having some weird chemicals in his system, will not live very long. If this is true, maybe he wants a romantic relationship before he dies. But even if this is true, again, why?It’s possible that this could be a result of some serious insecurity on Addi’s part. In chapter 5, we see people refer to Addi as a “freak”. Addi has also been described as being shy and introverted. So, hear me out, what if Addi’s insecurity comes from not only him seeing himself as a freak, but almost everybody seeing him as a freak. I mean, ok, this isn’t some impressive idea. I’m sure several Addi fans are yelling “No duh you Canadian, syrup-chugging nibnob!” Ok, ok, I get it, but hear me out! I think this could be why he’s so desperate for love. He wants someone around that can make him feel less insecure and loved. I could see this as the reason behind his relationships not going well. They either don't go as planned, or Addi unbalances the relationship by contributing too much to it.

Also, I'm sorry, but if the BFFs with benefits thing is still canon.... I have questions. Does Dame just become substitute boyfriend when Addi's single, and vice versa? Do they both collectively get bored and flirt with each other? Like, they just casually make out but they're not dating? I'm sorry, I just find this amusing.

Ok, enough with love. Love is boring. Let's talk about Adder. I think Adder will basically be either a feral side that Addi developed during his time at Xirxene (maybe he'd try to fight back against the scientists ) or he's a twisted manifestation of what Addi secretly wants to be. While Addi is...Addi, Adder is tough, uncaring, dangerous, and powerful. Unlike Addi, Adder don't need no man (*snap, snap, snap *) I can also see Adder taking revenge on anyone who wronged Addi. As for his relationship to Mirage, I think Adder may follow her since her plan somehow aligns with his quest for vengeance, and Mirage encourages Addi to leave and Adder to stick around.

I dunno. That's just what I think when it comes to analyzing this character. God, I talk too much

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Predictions

Relationships :

Mackenzie - I have a lot to say on this, so I'll save this tangent for another time.

Gustav- while I do believe Addi will ultimately end up with Gustav, I can see the relationship hitting several bumps, especially with Gustav possibly being forced to go through *gasp* character development. Like I've said above, I can also see Addi causing an unbalance in the relationship, which is never healthy. I think there'll also be an arc where Gustav and Addi will have to deal with the whole Xirxene thing.

Damian - ok, so unpopular opinion here. I think these two will drift apart. Not permanently, but at least for some time. I'll go over Dame's side of the equation in another post, so let's focus on Addi. While Addi may have needed Dame in the past, what with all of his issues, I think he may start hanging out with the rest of the main cast and other characters, branching away from Dame. Rereading Ch5 strengthened this belief as it seems like Addi has had enough of Dame's bull and is going his own route rather then be the passive friend. This of course I can see leading to much emotional pain and angst, which is like fucking candy to me.

Live or Die: Ah-hahaha. ....I think at least 5 people already know the answer to this one. To save on space, I strongly suggest you check out my Addison Headcanon part 1 and 2. Tldr, I think Addi is gonna die.

Powers: I've seen some art of Adder having "glory hand powers" and apparently he also can summon two giant demon snakes. I'm willing to bet that he's gonna have powers.

Role: Antagonist. Addi was originally created to be an adversary for Zill. While this may have been scrapped, I personally think it'd be a really cool subversion of expectations.

" You all probably thought it'd be that little shit Damian, but no, it was I, Addison the bean, all along! "

AhahahahaIdontwatchjojosbizarreadventure.

So what do you guys think? Let me know your thoughts and predictions. And please send any requests you want. Thank you.

I apologize for wasting your time.

-ATOUN

#zoophobia #zoophobia addison #zp addison