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dilfsyndrome · 1 month
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⚠︎︎AFOP Spoilers⚠︎︎
Kataru ♡︎
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creamybeemovie69 · 3 months
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Some of my favourite little details in avatar: frontiers of pandora
The two guards outside the council room in the aranahe hometree that just chat shit? All the time? Even during that last confrontation with Etuwa's father they're just stood chatting about someone's poor foraging skills or some shit it's so funny
The fact that the camera lowers when you're speaking to humans, which I know is probably so we can get a good look at them but I chose to believe it's because your sarentu slowly kneels until they're eye level with them
Nefika and Relun's dynamic of miserable old man and batshit crazy old woman
Whatever the fuck Okul's got going on. Gender? Babes they're clinically insane, they're too busy running into poisonous gas to worry about gender
The sleeping pod things hanging from the ceiling in the hometree. It took me forever to work out where they were all sleeping because there was no way they were all fitting in that one sleeping den
"it is sound proof Priya."
Anqa forgetting her training and getting attacked by wasps because she's too busy thinking about Priya
Hajir and Alex planning to have tea, no one talk to me
Daniella being this very capable badass soldier with a hardened exterior and her himbo husband who's just happy to be there as long as there's wood to whittle and food to cook
The sarentu humming sarentu songs while they cook
Zomey refusing to leave the plane until she saw Eetu get out
The resistance humans wearing clothes that have been altered/repaired by Na'vi weavers
Minang losing her shit and charging the base in the plains despite being the calmer, more collected one? Good shit.
That little detail in the cloud spitter description that says kids make a game of seeing how close they can get to the plant without triggering it
"I can still smell the chemicals" just kill me now I can't take this
Every single individual human having to ask Jake Sully for permission to stay on the planet. Were they forced to go back to the RDA if he said no? Or were they just left to die out on pandora?
The ferals being unable to communicate with eachother and being so angry because they're so lonely
Kin, Relun and the Kame'tire trader all being friends before the Kame'tire were banished
Priya not being able to talk to Alma in her human form because her avatar was her friend
Nor just. Disappearing? Where did he go? Is he okay? Why can't I go looking for him?
The Na'vi naming options for your Ikran being the names of other kids in TAP
So'lek collecting the identity tags of the soldiers he kills
So'lek in general actually. "This dReAmWaLkEr decided to lock you up in a box instead 👀"
Alex being granted permission to stay on pandora because he wanted to keep Grace's legacy alive through his work. Why is this never mentioned anywhere but in his character description?
The comic book pages
The fact that Priya dyes her hair. Are you actually telling me this excitable little climatologist worked out how to make hair dye from pandoran plants before Alex figured out how to eat any of it?
Anqa's fucking "my land was invaded too". Give this head-empty lesbian a break man
Everyone hating Billy because they think he can't be trusted only for him to be one of the most loyal among them
Etuwa's father refusing to fight because he lost his wife, then deciding to fight because he won't let them take his daughter too
"what have they done to you, my beautiful?" Actually sobbing like a fucking baby rn
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magic-and-sadness · 2 months
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The way he looks at the player sarentu like i'll have one of those dragons one day just you WAIT
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xxxdizzy19 · 1 month
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Spoilers below
It doesn't matter how many times you've seen these moments, again and again they will hit you as hard and painful as the first time.
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frogletscribe · 3 months
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I finished the main story of A:FoP last night and I have more thoughts but don't want to spoil anything for anyone who is not there yet so im putting them under the cut again lol. Also a lot of this gets into like general Avatar lore things and not always specifically A:FoP. I just have a lot of thoughts and not a lot of people to talk to about it lmao.
Warning: this is very long, i am apologizing now if you choose to read the whole thing.
Spoilers for Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora under the cut
TEYLAN oh my god my boy. He scared me so bad when he showed up again but I'm so glad he had a hand in stopping Mercer. It felt like such a moment of growth for him finaly setting himself free of his abuser. Poor guy feels so guilty about everything that happened, and I'm very nervous about whenever Nor comes back in future DLC stuff because he still doesn't know that Teylan 'betrayed' them. Especially after everything with Alma.
Speaking of Alma, I have somewhat mixed feelings about her story? Obviously the Sarentu have every right to be pissed at her, I am pissed at her, she used them (and honestly is still using them) to ease her own guilt. What bothers me is the "You will never be one of us" rhetoric? Mostly because it makes me think of Jake and the Sully kids (Lo'ak and Kiri specifically) who all are/look more like Avatars rather than Na'vi. It makes me wonder how the Sarentu would react to them? The situations are very different, Jake gave up almost everything that made him human to live as a Na'vi where Alma has stayed human, albeit unhealthily attached to her Avatar form. Jake worked to earn his place with the Na'vi where Alma is trying to take it from this group of children she has been lying to from the very start.
But more than that, her still talking as if she was a part of their family at the end made me so mad. I don't think Nor had a good reaction to her by any means, stabbing her was definitely not good, and it leaves all of the other humans scared of him but like,,, i'm on his side tbh. His anger is justified, he's just not coping with it in healthy ways. Like at least the Sarentu did shut her down, Alma is not a part of their family by the end, but giving her the grace they did at the end i think was more than she deserved. Idk, I am glad that they are able to be the bigger persons (pun not intended lol) and move forward, I'm just not a fan of forgiving a person who was partially responsible for the murder of your entire family?
Back to Nor. He is such an interesting character to have next to Ri'nela and So'lek. His anger is palpable and it has nowhere to go. He refuses to connect to Eywa again because he feels he has been poisoned by TAP and humans as a whole and it colors everything he does. He copes with his pain by ignoring it until it becomes too much and he snaps.
And then there is Ri'nela, who is also clearly hurt by everything that comes to light about the Sarentu and TAP, but she is so much more reserved about it. She has a really lovely audio log about how she feels the need to set her own emotions aside so she can take care of others and their emotions. You can really tell how much pressure she puts on herself to be that emotional stability for others. Still she works through it and at the very least tries to talk with the Protag about it in a much more healthy way than Nor does.
Compare that to So'lek, who is similarly reserved in is emotions to Ri'nela, but less to protect others and more to protect himself. Hopefully we will get a little more insight into his character with the comics coming out, but So'lek is i think very similar to Nor in a lot of ways. His clan was wiped out in the Great War, and he was the only survivor to not assimilate into another clan, and we can assume, i think, that those other survivors were most likely children and other non-warriors, either too old or unable to fight for whatever reason. He is entirely alone by choice, and he is angry, but he keeps it together.
So'lek sees the bigger picture, he knows that the resistance is the one other group that's actually fighting back (Besides Jake and the Omatikaya), even if its entirely a group of humans, who we can assume he is not terribly fond of in general. He makes a point of saying the RDA is what needs to be removed from Pandora, not humans. He knows how to separate his allies instead of generalizing 'all humans bad', something Nor is implied to struggle with at least a little. That is especially clear when So'lek calls Nor out after he stabs Alma. But that still doesn't negate how angry So'lek is and is capable of being. He says it after HQ is attacked, he is trying not to follow Nor and his rage. He knows that if he has that conversation with Nor, it will be very easy for him to let his rage consume him as well.
Given that Nor is pretty much gone from the game after he stabs Alma, I'm hoping that in the upcoming DLC we get to find him? Maybe he is being an angry loner out on the woods or if he has found other missing TAP students? There are 4 mentioned in game, either by name (Ri'nela asks where two of them, Telisi and Yefti, are at the very start of the game, and 2 more are mentioned in TAP School Records, Okni and Yuayt) Of course they could all have died while the main four were in cryosleep, 15 years have passed and if they werent with that group when Alma saved them, theres no telling what exactly has happened to them. I just think it could be cool for them to pop up and join back up with the Sarentu.
On, like, an entirely different note, the joy it gives me that there are multiple nonbinary characters! Ahh!!! I think right now the only ones are Tsu'kiri from the Aranahe and Okul from the Kame'tire, at least that I have found, but the way that they are handled, I really really love. They are both just people! Existing in the world! As a nonbinary person myself i also really appreciate the game using they/them for the protagonist and letting you flavor your character however you want so that you aren't locked into male/female like so many games tend to do.
Getting into less A:FoP specific and more general lore territory: Something else I found really interesting while digging around on the wiki is that Mokasa is not the Olo'eyktan? He is listed as Anufi's chief advisor, which made him a sort of stand in Olo'eyktan while she was exiling herself, but he isn't actually the Olo'eyktan the way Ka'nat and Nesim are for their respective clans. Even on the wiki, the Olo'eyktan for the Kame'tire is labeled as Unknown. At most we get Okul being named ? Tsakarem? Thats at least what I took from it. But it makes me curious about the other clans and their leadership (also just very curious about them in general lol). There are 16 clans that we know of (that are all still canon) but we really have only really in depth explored 6 of them in the whole series so far. (Just counting the movies and A:FoP right now because I do not have access to the comics or I think the like one? other games that is still canon) Idk im interested in more Olo'eyktan/Tsahik dynamics beyond just mated pairs like we have seen. Like the Zeswa sisters is really cool to me, or father/daughter dynamic with Ka'nat and Etuwa. Obviously, Jake, and later Tarsem, are not mated to Mo'at but there was the intention of Neytiri eventually taking over as Tsahik before the Sully's left, which would have continued the married couple leaders dynamic that we have been seeing.
We also know that Olo'eyktan don't always have to be men (See Nesim for the Zeswa and Ikneyi from the Tayrangi clan that we see in the first film), so then are there examples of male Tsahik somewhere? Okul being presumably named Tsakarem as a nonbinary/gender non-conforming character would imply that on some level, but im curious if we will ever see examples of it.
And finally, somebody has got to let me smooch the characters in this game PLEASE.
If you actually read all that kudos to you and thank you for indulging my screaming.
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avesrinapproved · 14 days
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As someone who has helped people out of abusive situations, i cant stand the teylan hate. Like excuse me? Youre going to blam a CHILD for doing what hes been doing his WHOLE LIFE to stay ALIVE? Tell me your a privileged ass without telling me.
teylan is litterally mercers golden child. While the others learned that hiding stuff from mercer is how they survive, the way teylan learned to survive is by appeasement, by making sure mercers happy. of course his response to mercer being mad and trying to hurt people is to give mercer what he wants, to try and calm him down. to make the punishment less bad.
it takes a while to stop thinking of your abuser as someone with complete control over you. teylans thought process was probably along the lines of "he will find us anyway. this will make the punishment less bad" because thats probably what mercer was telling him, and abusers make it feel unexcapeable. they will find you. they will hurt you. All you can do is lessen the hit.
it took me a few months to finally get my girlfriend to understand it didnt matter if her mom was mad at her cause she was safe and her mom wasnt nearly as bad as mercer. Mercer shot the last person to leave, in front of teylan! Of course hes going to be scared and try to protect everyone the way he knows how, by lessening the blow. In his mind mercer still has the control. Its obey or die.
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pandoraheadcanons · 3 days
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Yeah idk she seems fine to me
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recomgarbage · 1 month
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Mercer’s answer would be: (part 2)
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zafrinaxyz · 5 months
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Frontiers of Pandora ✨Spoilers🩵
the accents ... mm
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sutxdreamwalker · 3 months
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marcus--666 · 4 months
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since the mc is always just referred as "You" in the subtitles, as a joke I made my na'vi's name "Y'ou" but it stuck with me lol so here he is!
spoilers under here beware ooooooooo
Has mixed feelings for Alma, wants in his heart to forgive her but can't help but to have resentment deep down
Resents Nor slightly for letting his hate take over and just leaving all of them behind (the song I Feel It Too by Dream State is the vibe for their relationship near the end)
Y'ou was able to keep his hate and rage under control by venting to Ri'nela (and her to him) and Amay
Never gave up on Teylan, always believed and trusted him, will destroy towers to protect him
When Okul offered a place with them in the Hollow, felt like his heart was going to burst
planning on having him and So'lek tsaheylu as mates and having Okul be Y'ou's QPP (queer platonic person or the na'vi equivalent of it)
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dilfsyndrome · 27 days
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Sarentu children TAP notes
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I guess we didn’t exist 👻
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elffees · 26 days
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If the Sarentu have a new Olo’eyktan, I need for it to be Nor.
Him overcoming his chaotic feelings of disconnection (believing he’s not “Na’vi” enough, not “Sarentu” enough), and then growing to become their Olo’eyktan who takes on the responsibility of leading & protecting their culture and the few of them that remain. It would not only be a beautiful character arc, but it would also be very satisfying to see someone who’s struggled with connecting to their roots, be the one to take the lead on protecting it.
The Sarentu already have a Tsahìk, and Ri’nela is a fantastic choice, so it’s unclear if they’ll even want/need an Olo’eyktan (like how the Kame’tire only have a Tsahìk who leads alone.) But if the Sarentu do decide to go that route, I desperately hope Nor is the one to fill that role.
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magic-and-sadness · 1 month
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honestly, in game? i would've been down to staying with the kame'tire. they seem nice, okul is a fun person and i love anufi in personality and design. the one problem is that etuwa, daughter of asahe, tsahik of the aranahe, is SO beautiful
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optmstcontmblr · 1 month
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I find each of our Sarentu friends interesting. Nor: who desperately wants to be apart of the Na'vi again but struggles with a disconnect to it all. Teylan: who practically lives in fear of Pandora and wants as little as possible interaction with the Na'vi. Then Ri'nela: who wants to know more about the Sarentu but is choosing caution and safety first. Of course lastly is our character, who takes to it all like a duck to water.
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aperiraa · 3 months
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Possible Avatar frontiers of pandora spoilers below
Some people complain about the ikran and how the bonding was not like how it was in the movies but you got to remember that in the game it says the Western Frontier is a continent across pandora from where the Omaticaya stay at so not only are the Aranahe And Omaticaya two completely separate clans but they are also on two completely different continents so their iknimaya and other coming of age rituals are very different. I'm pretty sure I remember one clan that revolve their culture around Thanators and have a rare coming of age ritual by bonding with one but it wasn't as special for Neytiri in the first movie but if she was in that clan it would be. It was only special for her because it is in the midst of war and Palulukan is one of the most dangerous predators on pandora.
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