#aasa: athens

[allbeendonebefore]

If you feel down for it, I would love to see a small crossover between your Canadian and Ancient Greek characters

since you asked so nicely p:

occasionally i think about how they're actually contemporaries today, but it's hard for me to say anything significant about Canada-Greece relations from here because most of them are based in Eastern Canada (Montreal and Athens are the only sister cities between the two nations, which certainly would make an interesting dynamic! but one may have to ask @randomoranges)

so the primary connection I know is from the University of Alberta; we have a dig site near the modern village of Kallithea (in Thessaly, south of Larissa). I do regret not going to field school when I had the opportunity; I did hear secondhand that the post-dig ice cream was excellent. Since Edith is the representative for the university, she's standing in for Ed here. If I remember correctly, which nationalities can dig where is strictly controlled by the Greek government, so I think Canadians typically work on sites in northern Greece.

The only other connection I can think of off the top of my head would be the torch lighting ceremony for Calgary's Winter Olympics...

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[acetechne]

"Fabric" - Opus Daily Practice 15

of course fabric reminds me to draw some draped classical fashion hohoho. And what better subject than a happy Corinth, who I never draw happy...

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[attichoney4u]

Big inspiration from @allbeendonebefore. The designs for Athens and Thessaloniki were based from her work!

Recently, I came across a post from the talented @margaretartstuff, which inspired me to do my own take of the "myth of the mermaid".

The human is Thessalonikia (that's how Thessaloniki was called in ancient times) and she converses with the person whom she was named after, Thessaloniki.

I don't know how popular this myth is outside of Greece, but I still wanna share it due to how tragic it is. It goes that when Princess Thessaloniki, Alexander the Great's half-sister, learnt about her brother's death, she jumped from a cliff to drown. She didn't die, but instead, she turned into a mermaid. Ever since that day, she stops every ship passing by and asks "Is Alexander the Great alive?". The captain must answer "He lives, and he reigns, and he conquers the world" if he wants to keep sailing safely, or else, the mermaid will send a fierce storm to crash his ship. This dialogue is depicted above. So, if you ever find yourself in Greece and a mermaid asks you about Alexander the Great, you know what you should answer. ;)

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[athensandspartaadventures]

Hi Hapo, would you mind play the OC Askbox with Aasa characters? If so I would like 10 for everyone and 15 for Sparta.

[anon is probably referring to this meme on my main blog]

10. Free Space #1: Which of your OCs would be most likely to survive a zombie apocalypse? Which would die immediately?

I'll do a handful of the major characters, I don't know offhand what the more minor characters would do and I'd have to think about that longer, haha.

I mean, [spoilers] given how the great plague of Athens really instilled this sense of hopelessness and "every man for himself" and "dont care about other people because thats how you get infected", Athens would gain a handful of points on being self sufficient (but very quickly succumb anyway and get himself in some avoidable situation)

Sparta would refuse to acknowledge it was happening but wouldn't actually have any defenses against either the zombies or the hordes of people fleeing the situation to come take his resources, and of course he would no doubt have a helot uprising to deal with on top of that so he's already single-handedly fighting a losing battle just to look cool.

Corinth geographically would be in a secure position so long as the epidemic stayed local, and if things got dicey she would probably fuck off to Sicily or something.

Persia is a great shot and so long as he has the high ground or fast wheels he'd cut right through the zombies. His tendency to keep everyone at arms length but still rely on others for support would mostly serve him well (until he went in for a kiss or a hand hold with one of his chosen few elites who are Too Brave to admit they've been infected and omnomnom)

Ionia would be like, so busy trying to find a philosophical answer to who gets infected and why and she would get bit while arguing with some guy in the agora talking about how if we are just more righteous the whole thing will pass. (and maybe it wasn't even a zombie bite, i mean, you know how cynics are).

15. Is your character's first instinct fight or flight? Is there something that could force them to do the opposite?

Sparta's first instinct is "stand there and do nothing and stare" or "don't get involved in the first place", but I guess if say, we set him up on a road trip and he gets ambushed by a wolf or bandits or something, obviously he's going to fight because he does have a rep to uphold, even if he's going to lose.

Unless he sees them from a great enough distance that he chooses a stupid long route or turns around and goes back home, of course.

#Anonymous #hapo replies #aasa athens #aasa sparta #aasa corinth #aasa persia #aasa ionia #aasa meta

[acetechne]

World Watercolour Month: 20. Olive

i thought I'd challenge myself and try to draw an ancient olive press and I got frustrated, haha. Here is the horrible man himself who has also just collapsed in defeat having dropped his sun hat and lost all his helpers?

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[athensandspartaadventures]

Yes that meme's what im referring to many thx! Oh I love your answer Corinth running to Syracuse (i guess) for help is so cute and Persia's reaction is definitely the coolest (cooler than all Greeks) but watch out for your beloved subjects Persia :-D Also love the awkward way Sparta reacts to whatever immediate crisis lol. Would you mind also do 17 for Athens and 18 for major characters in aasa as well? I'm curious for your characters and really find your headcanons lovely.

for sure! and thank you :) i'm glad you enjoy them!

17. Is your character holding any grudges? Are they likely to stop?

I guess in a way the plot of AaSA is Athens's grudges, haha, he will remember something minor from the bronze age that doesn't really matter, but then he's also kind of flippant and forgets a lot of things, both his own actions and those of others. I think he's more likely to make up a grievance almost on the spot by chapter 5, though he doesn't really keep track of them (as opposed to Persia, who had to remind Darius at every meal not to forget his grudge against Athens, lol)

18. If your character were trapped on a deserted island, what three things would they want to have with them? Which person would they absolutely hate to be trapped there with? Which person would they enjoy being trapped there with?

Athens, salesman that he is, would want tons and tons of olive oil (multi purpose! long term storage! shiny skin and hair!), which of course comes with pottery, so a stylus to scribble on any potsherds (accidents and ostracisms would of course happen!) would probably come in handy, and the delian league members are kind of like objects rather than people right? and...

Sparta would want his comb (and begrudgingly borrow some of Athens' oil), probably the thicker of his two cloaks (you never know), and a musical instrument of some kind (likely his pipes).

Corinth would probably want a weighing scale (someone is going to have to set up a currency on this island), her hair dye or at least her bleaching hat (hours and hours of sunlight on a desert island? she couldn't waste All of them), and she'd probably take some expensive bauble in her collection to barter for passage off that rock.

Ionia would probably want something to read (not practical, but at least no one can enforce what she can or can't do on a desert island), maybe some kind of navigation device antikythera mechanism?, and maybe some seeds or something? idk if she actually knows how to plant things but I think she'd have like, Too Much confidence.

Persia would probably want like, a nice drinking cup or bowl (hes not going to be humiliating himself drinking with his hands), uh, does his bow and arrows count as an object? at least the bow, what if there's wild game on this island etc. Much as he loves his cats, i don't think he'd want them there to end up as food, so he'd probably want something practical like a pot to make stew or tea with for his little bowl, haha. I think despite his reputation he was quite self sufficient in his youth.

Everyone would hate being stuck with Athens, but I think he wouldn't mind being stuck with the others because he thinks of most of them as "friends"...(though with Persia it's like "if you die, i'm going to eat you!"). Sparta and Corinth would initially not mind each other, but then they'd get into such big arguments about whether to wait for help or to try to do something that they'd be at each other's throats in no time. Persia would probably like someone like Sardis or Ionia there to talk to (the others would be too busy arguing or being petty to work with him).

#Anonymous #hapo rambles #man i should draw corinth's silly bleaching hat in the upcoming chapter... #hapo replies #aasa sparta #aasa athens #aasa corinth #aasa ionia #aasa persia #aasa meta

[athensandspartaadventures]

G5 for Athens and G7 for Ionia

she's definitely checking out the lost wax casting techniques that he's describing that's all

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[athensandspartaadventures]

Sparta C6 and Athens A7 please ;w;

i am LOVING the chaotic energy of this one, thank you :D

pick your preference:

Athens imagining Sparta doing this because his mind is a bit detached from reality

Sparta imagining this because it's the inner self he can't express or he'll die

Corinth imagining this because she needs to entertain herself somehow

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[athensandspartaadventures]

I may have forgotten some but hey look I have polls

#aasa poll #athens and sparta adventures

[acetechne]

E8 Corinth B1 take your pick

biting killing

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[attichoney4u]

Big inspiration from @allbeendonebefore. The designs for Thessaloniki were based from her work!

As I was scrolling Tumblr today, I stumbled across this lovely pair of earrings from the Byzantine period.

I immediately recalled Thessaloniki, thinking that these earrings would fit her extravagant style and I drew her wearing them. Plus, she was an important centre in the Byzantine Empire, so it makes sense she would wear them. Here she is!

And here are the so-called earrings.

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[acetechne]

Sparta A for the pose thing! >:D

no i don’t know what is happening with the colours. I WAS going to draw something more revealing but my brain went for the hoplite armour because i havent drawn it in a long time

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[athensandspartaadventures]

Athens and Sparta Adventures: Chapter 8: Book of Ships pg. 24

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Quick Ref:

Temple of Artemis: One of the seven wonders of the ancient world by its third phase, the Temple of Artemis at Ephesos is at the time of this chapter in it’s second phase, sponsored by King Croesus of Lydia.

Comments:

I don’t actually know how long it would have taken them to get to Miletus, especially because ancient ships tended to hug the coastline rather than sail direct through open ocean. They would also typically beach their ships at nightfall. ORBIS suggests about 2.5 days.

The Greek reads “Come here, cursed creature!”, which is how it is translated in good ol’ Athenaze.

Poor bald man is like Why do you leave this guy in charge of your travel arrangements :(

I really want to know what was going through Athens’ head. Did he think Sparta was going to come to his niece’s house for dinner? I don’t know.

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[athensandspartaadventures]

Athens and Sparta Adventures: Chapter 8: Book of Ships pg. 16

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Heroon: A shrine dedicated to the cult worship of a hero, such as the Menelaion in Sparta dedicated to Menelaus. The concept of the ancient Greek ‘hero’ is rather different than the modern conception; a hero was a person of noble birth who lives and dies pursuing glory and not necessarily one who did ‘good’ deeds.

Zoroastrianism: One of the oldest continuously practiced religions in the world and the most popular religion in the Persian Empire at the time.

Comments:

There was no particular inspiration for the depiction of Agamemnon here because I wanted to get the composition right and depict him holding both his scepter and a spear, but the depiction of Menelaus and Helen is based off a black figure amphora by the Vatican Painter ca. 530 BCE. The story goes that after recovering Helen, Menelaus threatened to kill her for her infidelity at which she begged forgiveness.

I feel like even if Persia didn’t have a particular relationship with Troy and was far from being an empire at the time Bronze Age Troy was razed that he is taking personal interest into the contemporary use of Troy to represent Asia In General and Therefore Indirectly Referencing Him. 

We also get a very small peek into Persia’s opinions, which he usually is much more private about. This may be an oversimplification of Zoroastrian beliefs on my part, but I guess I’m also recognizing that Zoroastrianism did influence the Abrahmic religions in particular ways that may carry over to our own understanding.

I also think in modern cultural reception (and I have made this mistake myself back in my first year of uni!) we tend to understand Achilles as the “hero” and Agamemnon as the tyrant, the despot, the no fair bad antagonist man, and that’s not how the Greeks would have considered them.

That all said, there’s a cultural shift that will be starting to happen on the streets of 5th century Athens that reconsiders the morality of these stories... but who’d be talking about stuff like that...

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[athensandspartaadventures]

Athens and Sparta Adventures: Chapter 8: Book of Ships pg. 15

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Deme: (or in Greek “demos”, the root word of “democracy”) referred to a municipality- at least, it referred to the body of people who were allowed to participate in political life. Athens alone had several demes and there were well over one hundred in Attica. Cf. “Polis” and “Asty”. Demos is also a personification of the body of citizens and could be worshipped as a deity (or might appear as a character in the satirical works of Aristophanes).

Spartan Lives and Sayings: A work by Plutarch written in the 1st century AD, centuries after the period described herein. This is a great source of sassy laconic phrases even if their accuracy is debatable, as we have no writing from the Spartans themselves during this period. Sparta’s line here is one of these.

Comments:

ok here is my grand reveal for Eugenios and Demon - YEARS ago I was thinking about them having human names and what kind of thing I could write that could cause them to be revealed and after ages of stewing on it Chapter 8 is the result. The working title of this chapter was “Demon and Eugene Adventures”, lol.

Athens will mention why he didn’t go with Athenaeus or Athenodorus this time around but the real answer is 1. they’re not as funny in english and 2. they take up more space in speech bubbles and make my life hard lol, I rewrite my dialogue 2-3 times as I’m doing the bubbles because the text doesn’t always look nice :’) It was the one thing that was easier in Photoshop (although I had less intuition and practice when I was using PS so it cancels out lol) (glares at the word ‘lacadaemonians’ and at athens for always making me write long dialogue I have to chop later)

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[athensandspartaadventures]

Athens and Sparta Adventures: Chapter 8: Book of Ships pg. 18

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Quick Ref:

Eureka: Lit. in Greek “I have found it!”, this exclamation was made famous by Archimedes (who this chapter predates). I drew an oil lamp because I think I’m hilarious.

Rhapsode: A professional performer of epic poetry. An example is the titular character in Plato’s Ion, who has his victory crown verbally trampled by Socrates who claims his “talent” is being used as a mouthpiece by the gods and little more.

Comments:

Athens is definitely helping! He’s helpfully giving Sparta something other to concentrate on than sea sickness! We should all applaud his altruism.

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