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#FUNDY YOU DESERVE SO MUCH BETTER
louvesqueee · 4 months
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Both Tallulah and Fundy deserved a better father, c!Wilbur loves his children so much but also neglects and leave them for others to take care of. At least Tallulah has Phil in her life and is willing to take care of her but ofc she be jealous to others like Pomme or Sunny because they have their parents with them. Fundy was disowned by his father at one point and Phil hates Fundy and doesn't care bout him, when Wil was finally ready to be a father to Fundy it was already too late, Fundy was too far gone(mentally and physically) to even care about anything, but at least at one point of his life Eret was their for Fundy.
Anyways, thank you for listening to my Ted talk, Sally would probably beat the heck up of c!Wilbur and would adopt Tallulah wholeheartedly
I also do commission, and if any of you are interested, go ahead and dm me here or in my insta🌻
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Sweet nothings
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Dream: “You're such a beautiful person and you deserve someone so kind and caring and I would give you the world if I could, you're so smart funny, sweet and you're so incredible to talk to too, I love everything about you. You're absolutely gorgeous and you make me so happy everytime I see you or even think about you. I love you so much.”
Sapnap: “I would never ever leave you, I would stay with you forever and ever. You're my soulmate. I would never ever stop loving you. You complete me, you're my entire worlds and I could never ever live without you.”
George: “You have such a kind heart and soul and are so unique. Keep being yourself, because you are awesome. Stay safe and take care of yourself, and always remember that you are loved and appreciated. You are special and wonderful and worth it.”
Wilbur: “you are amazing, funny, smart and just overall a really fun person to talk to. keep smiling and know that there are many people out there who love, care, and value you. you are loved and important.”
Fundy: “I would never ever leave you, I would stay with you forever and ever. You're my soulmate. I would never ever stop loving you. You complete me, you're my entire worlds and I could never ever live without you.”
Karl: “You are the most special person I know, you make everyone happy, if it wasn’t for you the world would be so boring without you in it. You’re smart, funny, kind, lovely, amazing and I just can’t believe how lucky I am to have met you, you’re incredible, you are the most perfect person in the universe.”
Eret: “You're the star of my day, you are the best person I have met. You're so kind and I wish you could see what I see in you, I think you're incredible and I wish that you are aware of that, I will always be here for you and I will always be proud of you.”
Foolish: “You're a legend, you are so kind and sweet - everyone loves you, no matter what you do I'm so proud of you, you're absolutely stunning and nobody could get better, you have the greatest heart, you are so thoughtful & smart. You are the best person, the most amazing person.”
Niki: “you make me so happy and idk what to say... But I love you so much, and I cannot thank you enough, for being your best self, for being your friend, for simply being you, because you are simply perfect, and you make the world a better, brighter place, and you're simply one of a kind, and you are simply amazing! So keep being you, because the world needs you, so keep being you, because you are amazing.”
Ranboo: “You are a pretty awesome person, don't let anyone tell you otherwise. I'll always be here for you, so whenever you need help, or need someone to talk to... I'm right here. You don't need to suffer alone, when you have me as a friend... It's ok to rely on people sometimes... even on me. I'll give you a hug if you need it too. You are never alone in your life struggles.”
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griffintail · 1 year
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Lost Ones Halloween
I managed my brain to write something! They're more like headcanons of what the Lost Ones (With some special guests) would dress as for Halloween. It's just some cute shit for you guys. K! BYE!
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Tommy
(F/L) would dress up just like Tommy in his suit, calling herself Little Trusty and try to trick people into giving her more candy. Tommy would be very proud.
Wilbur
Star would still dress in her L'Manberg uniform but she'd care around a book with Declaration of Indepdance printed on the front and a guitar on her back. Wilbur would be honored by his little girl and make sure she'd get plenty of treats.
Technoblade
Little Blade would dress as Athena (her favorite goddess). Techno would praise her choice and take her out. Though he wasn't really welcomed in the countries, no one was willing to tell him no when he'd lead his little girl in with an axe on his shoulder.
Philza
Phil would be surprised by Angel's choice as she'd be dressed as his goddess. (Techno giving her no influence or help whatsoever. Nope!) Though he'd smile widely at the choice and defend her choice as they went out. He was sure Kristen loved it just as much as him.
Ghostbur
Blue would wear a blue sheep costume and Ghostbur would not stop squealing with joy as he looked at his little girl. It was just perfect and adorable! Her cuteness didn't affect just him either and she most certainly got the best and most treats. (Which she split with Tommy).
Eret
She was already a princess! She wanted to be something different, so instead she put on a cape and crown, calling herself a king instead. Eret would grin and promise she'd make the best king one day. She most certainly felt like a king with the amount of treats she got.
Dream
She was a bit embarrassed with her costume as Dream managed to make time to be there for her. He would stand shocked as she was in a perfect outfit making her look like him. Eventually, he'd tell her he loved it before even giving her a sword to match his as well. No one would dare give less than what she deserved.
Tubbo
Lamb would dress as a bee. Tubbo would keep her on his shoulders all night, letting her "fly around" as they went out trick or treating.
Ranboo
Boo would dress as an enderman. To help her complete her perfect outfit, Ranboo let her have some ender pearls but had her swear to not throw them too far from him. She had fun the entire night and when she accidentally break his rule, Ranboo didn't have the heart to scold her.
Fundy
Kit and Fundy had the perfect plan for mischief! She dressed up as a baby zombie and scared people the entire night, while also making sure to score plenty of treats. (It's alright if a few were someone else's)
Quackity
Duckling dressed as well as duck! Quackity would be unsure about the costume at first but she looked too adorable to say no to. He could never say no to her.
Schlatt
Ram hadn't really planned on going out, but when Schlatt took her out to get an outfit to go out the day before, she was thrilled and knew exactly what she wanted to be. When she came out in a suit, Schlatt was confused until she said she was dressed as the best president, him. Damn it! She had to stop making him feel soft!
Awesamdude
Creeper had thought about dressing as a creeper but thought of one better. She dressed as a prison guard and when Sam would ask her why, she told him so she could go to work with him instead since he was going to work that night. He had planned on letting Sam Nook take her, but, he could afford one night off instead.
Foolish
Pup would dress as a shark. Foolish would absolutely love it and if she didn't get nearly enough as he thought she deserved, he'd make sure she'd get it.
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dykejaskier · 1 month
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Ik you said this ages ago and in the tags of a post, but I'd love to hear your thoughts on Rüdeger and his mental health
anon i'm down on one knee proposing rn thank you for sending this in
stray thoughts and ramblings (sorry if this is messy, it's getting to 6 am and i have Not slept):
i'm really curious as to how his identity interacts with his faith. from my understanding, monasteries were intended to be safe havens away from the secular world (my notes from a course on early mediaeval monasticism call them "a place where a life similar to that of the angels takes place, a harbour of calm that resists the storms of the world of outside") - and so he's in this space that's meant to be separated from "sin" but at the same time, he's living in it through his identity* and relationship (at least according to the institution he's a part of). i'd love to know how he views himself, the church, the concept of sin in the first place - like obviously he's terrified of anyone finding out about them, but from memory it's expressed more so as worry over mathieu? which in turn makes me wonder if that's because he's at peace with his own fate due to self-deprecating reasons and so doesn't bother worrying about himself (i'm sinful and will go to hell regardless but mathieu deserves better) or if he thinks there's nothing sinful about their relationship in the first place (and so persecuting mathieu, the man he loves, over it, is unfathomable and unfair) [*i'm aware that the concept of queerness as an identity is more contemporary, but i couldn't think of a better word]
also curious as to how he ended up at kiersau. we don't know his backstory - how'd he end up becoming a monk? did something happen to drive him towards it? is there a precedent for him running away from things (if andreas blackmails him and mathieu, he leaves, i think to protect mathieu)? inquiring minds would like to know
hc time: i think that the town turning on them in act II feels that much more terrifying because while they're not persecuting him because of his queerness, it's entirely likely that they/others would, if their relationship was revealed. so the whole thing is like a manifestation of his worst fears. no wonder he's upstairs having a panic attack
SPEAKING OF. anxiety girlie who gets panic attacks and self-soothes by singing. and i'm sure mathieu's presence calms him (doubly so because mathieu's probably the only person in his life who gets it. who understands him. who sees him without that act of perceiving being judgemental)
another question: what does rüdeger himself think of his mental health issues? we have the language to describe it now, with modern terms, but - and not to paint with a broad stroke - a 16th century monk probably wouldn't necessarily internalise something like a panic attack as being a health issue, but rather a spiritual affliction. which brings me back to wondering how he thinks of himself, and of god, and if it's possible he views his issues as a divine punishment (like how some fundies describe depression as like. being something given to them by the devil? that they can pray away?)
in my self-indulgent hc, he feels better after leaving kiersau. mathieu getting a big promotion probably brings new anxieties but at the same time, makes them just a bit more untouchable. also, if andreas was not an asshole about discovering them in the library, i feel that'd give him an opportunity to see that people can be good and understanding about him/them (though i also have a feeling that rüdeger is the type of person to believe the best about people, at least when's he's not actively spiralling. mathieu does describe him as "a gentle soul" and "a kind and thoughtful man")
that's all i have for now. i love him and mathieu so much, they deserve everything <3
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unhonest-iago · 1 year
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You Know Dutch?
repost/reupload w/ corrected Dutch as it was pointed out to me by an AO3 commentor.
Gn reader
‘Do we have to?’ Fundy whined as he put on his tie. ‘Yes, we promised we’d go and now we’re going. Now help me out with my necklace, please?’ Holding the two ends of the chain in front of him. Hearing him mutter to himself, ‘Je hebt geluk dat ik van je houd.’ (You’re lucky I love you)
Y/n bent down to kiss his cheek, being taller than Fundy with their heels. ‘Thank you. Now let’s go, we’re going to be late.’ Taking one last glance in the mirror to tame down his hair, Fundy ran out behind them, locking the door behind him. Zero clue that you actually could understand him when he switched into his mother tongue. Niki having gifted y/n a Dutch-English dictionary last Christmas, tired of hearing him gush about them. As Dutch and German were similar languages.
'Ik verdien haar niet. Hij is zo aardig-ik houd van mijn snoepje' (I don’t deserve them. They are so kind—I love my sweetie)
A few drinks in, Fundy had started talking about y/n to anyone that would listen. ‘Het is zo schattig, hoe zijn neus rimpelt wanneer ze lacht.’ (It’s so cute, how their nose scrunches up when they laugh)
‘Okay, thank you all for inviting us but I better get the lightweight home.’ Knowing everyone at the table would never let their foxy live this down if he were to continue. Not that they didn’t like how sappy he got when drunk—showing how much he truly loved them. ‘Hi, baby’ greeting as he excitedly yelled their name. ‘We moeten je naar huis brengen.’ (we need to get you home) Fundy’s face blanched as he realized that y/n was able to understand everything he’d been saying.
‘Jij kent Nederlands?!’ (You know Dutch?!)
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Dear Tommy,
I apologise. I'm sorry.
For most, if not all, of what I've put you through. It was never my intention to bring harm your way or introduce you to things you didn't deserve to be brought your way. You deserved to be the kid you were, and I take responsibility for what I did to take your childhood chances away from you.
I'm glad that there were still moments where you could be a kid. I'm happy and proud that I had the chance to call you my little brother. Thank you for sticking with most, if not almost all, of the bullshit I went through and gave to you.
I didn't deserve you, and you deserved the world. I wish I could have made the world yours.
To Fundy,
I know you likely don't want to spare this more than a glance, but I'd like to take the chance to apologise. To say sorry.
I'm sorry that you were a kid brought into war, that you didn't get the time to have your own childhood. I'm sorry that you didn't get the chance to meet your mother, and I'm sorry that I wasn't the father you needed me to be. Both in general and to also be there for you.
I'll forever be proud of you. You were my little champion, and you still are. Your mother would be just as proud of you, if not more than if she had the chance to see the man you had become.
I knew the second she laid her eyes on you. She loved you. And I know she wanted you to know that more than anybody else.
You deserved a much better childhood. You deserved more attention and love. You deserved to feel welcome and whole just like anybody else should. I hope that you can feel that now or that you're on the way to feeling more complete.
To Niki,
The last memories I have with you, I remember you being so.. angry, with me. I couldn't understand why at the time. I couldn't see past the fact I had been alive again. I didn't understand that I had essentially fucked people over with their feelings upon revival.
I think I understand better why now more than before.
We had something for some time, and I know now that you likely felt abandoned by my actions. I'm truly sorry I made you feel that way. You didn't deserve that, either.
I loved you, and I believe a part of me still does.
Although, that doesn't matter anymore, not if you've been hurt by my actions and my words alone.
Thank you for being there for me in a way nobody else was, I'm sorry you had to see me at certain lows nobody else ever could or would have. I'm sorry you were pulled into a country born through war. I'm sorry for how I treated you during our last moments together before Pogtopia v. Manburg.
I'm sorry for not comforting you all those moments you needed after a certain point. I don't have any excuse, no matter how much I had lost myself along the way.
I want to count the stars with you again one day, if you'd let me. But only if you wanted to.
I'm sorry.
To Philza,
I have.. many words. I have apologies line up for you, but I don't think they can be contained within a letter. None of the words within any of these can portray just how much I feel and how genuinely apologetic I am.
I'm sorry I left home with Toms when I had. You and Technoblade hadn't returned home some days after you said you would. I didn't want to wait months after the date you said you'd be back when you weren't. It'd happen before, time and time again, and I just couldn't wait anymore. It hurt to wait, and I was done subjecting Tommy to the world of bring trapped in the home we built with the exception of occasional visits to the nearby village.
It's such a big world, and you and Technoblade went exploring it, and I just wanted to introduce Tommy to the world. New opportunities for a bright kid who deserved it.
I'm sorry that our reunion was within the button room. I shouldn't have peer pressured you into harming me at all, no matter how lost I was. I know now I should've sought out proper help, and it's my fault that things went as far as they did.
You didn't deserve to hold your dying son in your arms. Let alone a son that begged to die by your hand, with his own sword.
You didn't deserve to have said child arise from the dead. It doesn't feel like a gift. If anything, it seems more like a potion of poison.
Looking back on it now, I was more of a leach to you post-revival. Maybe it was a part of me that craved my father's love and attention. Regardless, you didn't deserve to be treated in the manner I treated you. For that, I apologize.
Nobody, both mentioned here and others I've not mentioned, deserved to be treated the way I treated them.
I feel the need and want to genuinely apologize to each and every person because thinking back on it, I understand now that my then apologies I initially made were less than half-assed. At the time, I just wanted to get them out of the way and move on.
I truly do apologize, and I understand if nobody's forgiven me yet or if they never will.
Thank you all for the chances and the memories.
Thank you to the mods, as well. You're all amazing.
Sincerely,
Wilbur S.
[Letter Sent!]
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embers-archive · 2 years
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*banging the walls*
C!FUNY WAS JUST A KID MAN
He was just a kid following his dad's footsteps cause thats his dad !! That's his hero !!! Why wouldn't he trust him?
He laid down his life, gave up his childhood to be a soldier all for his dad and for his nation only to be constantly forgot by said father. Pushed to the side for 'more important things'. ONLY. Only to then watch as his dad who he trusted he trusted him so much why why why why destroyed himself and the nation they built- the nation that fundy gave up his CHILDHOOD for.
He loved so deeply, cared so much, gave away loyalty so freely only to be abandoned by everyone. He deserved so much better do you hear me crying
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clingyduoapologist · 2 years
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Ok, since it’s been a bit and I’ve had some time to sit with it, here are my thoughts.
If you separate this stream from the greater narrative that Wilbur has been weaving, then it’s fucking superb. The c!Crimeboys parts are some of the best we’ve had in the entire history of the server, the Utah bit is fucking hilarious, and the overall message of the stream is so heartwarming, literally I’d have no problems calling this one of my top 3, maybe even top 2 c!Wilbur streams.
The issue is, that this isn’t a standalone story. This is the conclusion of c!Wilbur’s story on the dream smp. More specifically, it’s the conclusion of revivebur’s season 4 arc, and as an ending, it kind of makes no sense?
Like sure, the message of Wilbur freeing himself from the narrative by actually crossing over into the real world is cool, but at least to me it comes off as so much more of a downer ending than it was probably meant to. Basically, I’m left to assume that this guy who’s struggled for so long is now just sitting alone in a random gas station in Buttfuck, Utah? The final poem even goes so far as to suggest that he’s never going to forgive himself (which is also supported by the crimeboy’s conversation on the peninsula)? There’s no suggestion that he’s going to be doing better, which just feels like angst for the sake of angst.
That’s not even mentioning how this slots into the other apology streams. Like, this stream takes all the juicy character dynamics we got introduced to in those streams, and throws it out in favor of showing Wilbur being potentially miserable for the rest of his life? Like, looking at the Fundy stream in particular just makes this ending ring that much more hollow, as it’s just Wilbur leaving fundy again, showing that he’s learned basically nothing from any of those interactions?
To me at least, the point of the apology streams seemed to be showing how Wilbur’s negative self-image damaged his relationship with other characters, making these apologies extremely superficial and one sided. Inconsolable Differences especially seemed to prove this point, but now these streams just seem so much more, idk pointless? Like, they seem so boring in context of this finale.
Basically, this ending is the safest, and least interesting out for c!Wilbur in my opinion. The only logical takeaway this arc gives the audience is that if you think that you’re a bad enough person, you don’t deserve your friends and family and should
And again, in context of the greater narrative of not only c!Wilbur’s arc, but the entire dream smp, it just feels cheap.
Feel free to add on if you disagree but I just don’t think this ending works.
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tekbox · 2 years
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C!wilbur is going to kill himself.
from the usage of "Wilbur soot was the sovereign ruler" implying that even if Dream wrote it (which, spoilers he did) he will still be dead. C!wilbur at this time believes that he himself is at fault for a lot of pain, just as he was when L'manberg blew up. L'manberg was and is the same as Wilbur, at the time of the Pogtopia arc he believed that the end to all this pain would be to end L'manberg and himself. Even in new L'manberg it was like this, the country being a clear shadow of its former self, just as Ghostbur was in the shadow of Wilbur and only the good things people remembered about him and only the good things Wilbur remembered about himself. His death was a fond memory. Ghostbur was an imitation of Wilbur, he was a person but L'manberg was a country . L'manberg getting overgrown becoming this monolith of growth just as he was revived. Symbolizing his own growth (albeit not positive) from when he was once alive.
Yet, in his eyes all this pain is repeating again, Eret talking down to him, pinning a majority of their own issues on him, Fundy killing himself in front of his father just as Wilbur did himself. Finally seeing the tower at Logstedshire- despite that not being a direct result of himself I don't doubt that him threatening suicide in front of Dream was a form of his own internalized guilt. He again, sees himself as a monster. He sees himself as the one causing all the pain. The shadows of himself on the server often being represented as holes, explosions, blood, pain, death. Wilbur as much as he loves being alive thinks he deserves death. He deserves to be a legacy and nothing more because in his mind that's all he is, that's all L'manberg was. A legacy.
He puts himself up on a block each time he's uncomfortable. each time he feels smaller and each time it's him not wanting to open up- not wanting to get close to people in fear he will hurt them. It's almost poetic how putting himself up on a block- a pedestal is representative of the legacy he wants. He so desperately want's to be a fond memory. The end of the Tubbo stream being "He'll remember you for this," telling himself that his legacy will be better than him, that he wants to be a good memory but knows he wont.
Not telling Tommy about the plan was him wanting Tommy to distance himself from him. He doesn't want Tommy to hurt more than he already has and he believes that Tommy should hate him. Not refuting Tommy's insults when their walking to the community house, just taking it. Because in his once-dead heart he knows its true.
he only hurts
and that's why he wants to die.
(likes < reblogs)
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firesnap · 2 years
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What are your thoughts on people saying that everything c!Eret said was right and needed to be said to c!Wilbur, it just should've come from a different character? Namely, people are saying c!Fundy deserved to dress Wilbur down like that. Basically, do you think the problem isn't what was said to and about Wilbur but who said it? Personally, I think it was made exponentially worse by it being Eret who said it all, but I still think so much of what was said was just plain wrong.
Yeah, I think the power dynamic and history between Eret and Wilbur really fucked up the message we ended up getting. Trying to give Wilbur a message of staying for uncomfortable conversations and the apology as a mean to face hard moments in the past doesn't work that great when someone like Eret -- the person who murdered you and your family and destroyed a bit of the hopeful, naïve part of yourself you never got back.
Okay in the scenario you're presenting to me we have to agree to some ground rules (and the acknowledgement that Wilbur's lore is actually limited to who he can get on the server and the current condition of the characters, but our ask scenario is not). Whoever it is that's not c!Eret would have to:
Still be a surprise -- someone Wilbur wasn't expecting to see.
Still have a complicated relationship with Wilbur. It has to be something that Wilbur has something to push back on or would make it hard for him to confront them.
Wilbur still has to give the 10 second apology and run approach. "I'm sorry. I did this ___ and that was wrong of me. Thanks for listening. Bye."
So Fundy is interesting because of point 2 on that list. Fundy feels abandoned by Wilbur because of the end of Pogtopia and Wilbur dying, but Wilbur didn't actually abandon Fundy. Fundy disowned Wilbur publicly and by the time Fundy tried to tell Wilbur he didn't mean it... So you have a similar set up of Fundy directly contributed to Wilbur's spiral (and the spicy thing would be for c!Fundy to remember him running against Wilbur and trying to prove himself by being spy was because of jealousy about Tommy ), but it's still understandable why Wilbur would want to offer an apology for how things went.
The downside is that the fandom around Fundy is awful and the fanon that Wilbur was some kind of bad dad would be awwwful. I also have some quibbles with how Fundy RPs and just seriously don't mind him being awol this arc.
My other idea is Ranboo. So this plays more into how, for months, we were all writing cool meta and art about how Eret and Wilbur were similar and blah blah seeing yourself in the person who hurt you something.
But the story has set up some cool parallels with Ranboo and Wilbur that would definitely work where the ones with Eret failed. They see a lot of their own eccentricities in each other. Ranboo listened to Wilbur -- really listened. Ranboo also had faith in Wilbur.
Ranboo also chose to die in a way that really fucked up Wilbur.
So you've got the set up that Wilbur feels massive guilt about Ranboo, but also would be terrified to speak to Ranboo because they haven't seen each other since Ho16. Imagine getting to see Ranboo get frustrated at Wilbur throwing out a quick apology and then trying to retreat. Imagine getting to build off that sweet character growth we saw from Ranboo being willing to call Wilbur out for shit. Imagine Wilbur having to face someone who also killed themselves. Seeing yourself in the other. Being forced to stay and face the apology. Maybe even a little anger that Wilbur didn't ask Ranboo to sacrifice himself.
It would have been better than what we got.
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i-am-beckyu · 10 months
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Psst- Fav HC for these characters?
Giant!Dream
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Giant Philza
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Giant!Techno
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Tiny!Tommy
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Tiny!Fundy
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Tiny!Punz
You don't have to answer :3
-🍬 Anon
HI! HELLO! HI!!! I'M SOOOO SORRY THIS TOOK SO LONG TO REPLY TOO!! Been a very busy weekend lol. Now, you're really gonna test me cause I've never thought about hc for some of these characters so lets see how I go <3
Giant!Dream
Okay I have two but it depends on my mood :/ So we have either big softie g!dream who always where's green hoodies, OR We have psycho maniac g!dream who wishes to make tinies lives living hell and have them kicking and screaming to the very end!!! (I like my villain dream stuff :3)
Giant Philza
Dadza. In any shape or form he is Dadza and just a big old softie who goes around adopting children being so loving. He's a father your honor!!!
Giant!Techno
He doesn't talk much, finds it very awkward when he's forced to talk too tinies but will absolutely murder anyone that hurts the ones he considers friends or family.
Tiny!Tommy
He's a sad orphan boi who needs a hug, but also just a little shit that will get into everything and I'm 1000% sure that if that isn't how I communicate Tommy in every story I write, then I'm doing something wrong.
Tiny!Fundy
See I've not seen much for fundy, but I think I just have it in my head that he's been mistreated and deserves better. I remember watching his finale on the dsmp and yeah I'd like to think that in every life time, he's been misused and mistreated. Always in the back ground till he finally just leaves it all behind and is free. :>
Tiny!Punz Yeah all I got is shiny white boi that is maniac friends with dream. That's kinda all I think for punz ever. (I don't know much about their character okie qwp)
I have no idea if these count as head cannons but I did my best!!!
Thanks for the question 🍭🍭🍭🍭🍭🍭🍭🍭❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
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theminecraftbox · 2 years
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That ask was a little curt. I should clarify that I didn't mean to oppose that writing choice for c!Q, because I really do enjoy how you portray him. But "know your place" is such an interesting sentiment to think about, and not one I can recall him ever expressing... quite so bluntly?
It's long been essential to c!Quackity's motivations that not only does he want power for himself, but that others who would use it against him or those close to him don't have it anymore: Wilbur, Schlatt, Techno, the Egg, and most of all Dream. I recently rewatched the stream where c!Fundy joins Las Nevadas, which includes a whole rant about exactly that and promises that here, in Las Nevadas, Fundy would be able to do whatever he wants without anyone bossing him around (...haha). Las Nevadas 4 contains the infamous "good authority" scene, which - as an aside - I'm don't believe Quackity entirely buys into about himself (he did, after all, admit to multiple other recruits that they would be entirely justified in killing him).
And veering back into some of your own work - in Shell Game, you touch on that theme a lot! Even in the place where c!Quackity was at his most powerful, where he subdued the person he hated the most, all it takes is some teasing (and a vivid imagination, and a pinch of self-awareness) to send him right back into that old helpless frenzy.
So there's an undercurrent of mockery that goes beyond c!Dream's lowly prisoner status, beyond Q's sarcastic snippery, beyond his need to assert himself. It's not just "I think I'm better than you," the way a certain someone else's thoughts behind a similar line might be. It's "I think you think you're better than me, and I want you to understand just how wrong you are." Because after all this time, all this horror that's dissolved into tedium, Dream still has the audacity to make fun of him, to pretend his controlling is simple concern, that he isn't just a greedy sadistic beast who cowers from a blade or an open flame like any other animal.
And, well, nobody should get power and authority purely for the sake of it, right? It's a resource that not everyone can wield. One that you have to be strong enough to fight for, and respected enough that others will fight alongside you, and good enough that you deserve to have it. And if you can't be that, you belong at the bottom.
Weak, alone, and despised. Like c!Dream is. Like c!Quackity fears being.
Yeah, I know it's a small line to focus on, where the explanation could be as simple as "he's posturing to the guy he tortured for two months" and make perfect sense. But I couldn't help but read into it a bit more.
...Or a lot more. Sorry for putting an essay in your inbox when you shouldn't even be looking at a screen, lmao
/dsmp /rp
Don’t worry, I didn’t think your ask came across as curt/as a criticism! I just took it as an honest question, haha.
These are great thoughts! It’s something I love thinking about too, how much more (or less) blunt Quackity might be willing to get about his own motivations when he’s in a situation with all the power—or all the power on paper, anyway. Maybe he can admit more. Maybe he can admit less. In some ways, he has the leeway to be pretty damn honest with Dream and at Dream, and in some ways it’s more essential than ever that he retains distance between how he acts and how he really feels.
I think you’re dead-on about how Quackity views power primarily as a threat rather than as something he wants for its own sake. The key is that it’s a zero-sum game: Quackity wants power so that other people can’t have it, and so that other people cannot use it to hurt him, or to prevent him from getting what he wants. He sees other people having power as, concretely, taking power from him.
If Dream has power in his tiny little cell, then that means that Quackity’s position isn’t as secure as he thinks it is. If Dream is able to claw back his autonomy and get his terror under control, then that is an explicit and horrible threat to everything Quackity’s managed to achieve. That means Dream *thinks* he has power, and thinking isn’t so far from making something true. Quackity knows that best of any of the prison trio—that power comes from both what you think you have, and what the people around you think you have.
The “good authority” rant is so interesting to me in the context of Quackity’s variable self-awareness. He retains the true conviction that some people (Dream) are sincerely and honestly bad for pursuing their own power/self-interest, but he still straddles this strange line where he’s convinced of his own right to do, basically, whatever the fuck he thinks he needs to to secure his own power, but also that his power in some ways needs to be justice-oriented. His delusion is nowhere near the level of Sam’s, but it’s still definitely true that Quackity is convinced he’s fundamentally better than the likes of Dream and Techno. This is a power thing, too—where he can’t claim the political or physical high ground, he will damn well claim the moral one.
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miceeonvenus · 2 years
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My insane ramblings from the Wilbur stream:
HOLY CRAP C!TOMMY THAT'S C!TOMMY IT'S CRIMEBOYS TIME
PFFFF TOMMY UNDER THE WATER
Tommy just refuses to talk about Fundy's suicide hmmmmmmmm wonder if this reminds him of something
"Uhhh we went on that holiday to the beach." "No." DO YOU HEAR ME SCREAMING
theyre continuing to talk about it hslsjldhlfshlkhd
LOGSTEDSHIRE THEY NAME DROPPED LOGSTEDSHIRE
IS THIS THE TOMMY APOLOGY STREAM ARE WE GETTING THE TOMMY APOLOGY STREAM ARE WE GOING TO LOGSTEDSHIRE???????
HE DOESN"T WANT TO TELL HIM TUBBO EXILED HIM
hes determined it was a holiday ;-;
wilbur wants to talk he wants to get better hes trying to do better he is doing better and hes trying to help tommy be better and feel better and he doesnt want to make him upset so hes giving him a safe word
thyere gonna see the tower theyre
parrallels of crime boys and clingy duo sailing to what is going to be a an upsetting event and joking and havign fun as they sail before it all goes downhill
"its almost as if theres a server operator listening to us" DREAM
my heart is beating so fast my heart is beating out of my chest
HE THINKS THE TOWER IS LIKE A BEACON AOUGUHHHH
WILBUR REMEMBERS GIVING TOMMY THE COMPASS
"Maybe you deserved it" WILBUR WHY WOULD YOU SAY THAT
Wilbur fainted when Tommy told him he tried to kill himself...
Why is Wilbur visiting Dream in prison???? How is Dream in prison again??????
"Fond memories!" Bad choice of words Dream... that was a bad choice of words to say to a very angry brother that has tnt
holy shit wilbur
ok ok it was a dream
wilbur really want to kill dream oh this is all i could have asked for
actually no now im scared wilbur is going to die again
am i sensing a server wide event? wilbur wants to draw dream out by alerting the whole server? throught he prison alarms?
wait wasnt dreaming holing up in the prison last we saw him? he was in there messing with sam?
ERYN!!!! ERYN IS ON!!!!!!
WHAT IS CHAT GOING ON ABOUT TECHNO FOR?????? TECHNO LET DREAM OUT LAST I CHECKED
CRIME BOYS DANCING AND SINGING TO CAT TOGETHER THEYRE FINALLY HAVING THE BEACH PARTY IM CRYING
"I don't need armour" YES YOU DO WILBUR
sir why do you need to avoid showing the screen to open your enderchest why aren't the discs put away
tommy talking about listening to blocks with schlatt, fundy, and tubbo fondly :(
"Do you ever miss when things were just simple." Yeah :(
im so scared tommy wont have enough time to leave before dream shows up
im genuinely so scared i cant take this
NO DREAM ON SCREEN I AM SCARED OF DREAM BEING ON SCREEN
tommy is sheilding wilbur from dream OUGH
LITERALLY PUT THAT AXE AWAY DREAM
DREAM BROKE THE PORTAL SHIT SHIT SHIT WILBUR I KNOW YOU'RE TRYING TO TRICK DREAM BUT YOU DO HAVE A FLINT AND STEEL RIGHT THERE I WISH TOMMY COULD KNOW
I KEEP GETTING ADS AT THE WORST MOMENT ThIS IS THE WORST TJEY ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF A CONFRONTATION AN D BAM THREE ADS
WILBUR DONT THREATEN TO KJILL YOURSELF AS POWER OVER DREAM DONT PARALLEL TOMMY DURING THE DISC CONFRONTATION LIK ETHAT
the pain in tommys voice as wilbur tried to kill himself and have tommy's discs burnt
Wilbur was smart in what he did, tricking both Tommy and Dream, but he caused so much panic and pain for Tommy as well but it makes sense! it makes sense
tommy's silent little nod after wilbur tells him to never let Dream know the discs arent gone :(
"You're a good kid Tommy. Thank you for trusting me." ILL CRY ILL DO IT
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bisexual-horror-fan · 10 months
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Thank you, really. For context I grew up in a very fundie church with purity culture BS and had extreme social anxiety growing up. Ta Da! Insecurities galore! I'm pan, maybe poly, and very likely demi. Not out to and still living with bigoted parents. I'm almost 25 and never even kissed, dated, anything. Not that I don't want it, I'm just too insecure, not to mention clueless, to even begin the process of... anything? I'm pretty lonely tbh, and starved for some kind of intimacy- 1/2
Not even purely sexual intimacy. But I really have nobody, and don’t really know how to fix that, or myself. I'm still pretty anxious around strangers. I’m embarrassed, even if it’s not entirely my fault or a fault to begin with. I feel like the longer I stay this way, the more impossible things will be, because the embarrassment and insecurity will just keep growing until it’s paralyzing. I’m already near convinced nobody would want me, or they would deserve better. Think that's it Thoughts?2/2
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Man, so first off, so sorry to hear this Anon. I was in a similar position, raised in the catholic church and went to catholic school until sixth grade and that shit wassss, bad to say the very fucking least. I was lucky enough to get out before the purity aspects set in, I can relate to the social anxieties as well as just general anxiety too. Let's get more into it under the cut.
Believe it or not I used to be very fucking shy myself, I used to have a bad stutter, no friends at all until high school, severely bullied and a terrible home situation with my birth mother, (The Garbage Pile, I've mentioned here from time to time) and for the longest time it seemed like all those issues were insurmountable. Clearly, as anyone can see, I have gotten so, so much better and grown immensely. Anxieties have calmed massively, I've been over a decade without a panic attack, the pile isn't in my life, I am extremely confident and happy in my life and choices, accepting myself totally in everything that I really want and saying fuck anybody who can't vibe with that.
It wasn't easy and took a lot of work to get to this point. A lot of sitting with feelings, introspection and making hard calls and tough choices, putting myself first even when it makes other people mad or uncomfortable. Remember, you know what is best for you, no one else, and if that means that some people don't fit into your life because they cannot accept who you truly are that is their loss. But keep in mind that tons of people never come out to everyone and there is no shame in that, it is vital for a lot of people's safety.
I want to say that there is no shame or problem with your age, you are still really young, there is lots of time to find your feet with this, there is no set timeline for this kind of thing. This isn't a fault with you or a fault to begin with.
However, if you want things to get better, you have to put yourself out there, put yourself in some uncomfortable situations and force yourself to start to get more comfy with what you struggle with. I would rec that you start with being in public more often, not even having to interact to start but get more comfy with being in the public sphere and around strangers, just existing and getting used to that. There isn't anything to be freaked out or embarrassed about, no one is looking, no one cares, you have a right to be there as much as anyone and I promise no one is looking, no one is judging, people are far, far too wrapped up in their own shit to be concerned with yours.
Next I would rec you that you try to find some friends that you can be yourself with, be open, honest, vulnerable with, you can build confidence in yourself this way by being accepted by others. I joined an LGBT+ youth group when I was 16 and made friends I still have over a decade later, having that base level of all being some flavor of queer to bond over was great, and then we formed deeper friendships based off shared interests from there, as well as getting and understanding each other and giving support.
If you focus on making strong connections, not even explicitly romantic ones, it will help you out, mentally, emotionally, socially, I cannot tell you how much it will improve everything else. For me, every person I've been involved with, romantically or sexually I had formed strong friendships with first, not every friendship goes that way, but the ones that I had BEFORE that, gave me all the tools I needed when friendships started to take that turn later in life.
You are good, you have inherent worth for just existing as yourself, you will find someone eventually and instead think about finding someone that deserves YOUR fine ass, not the other way around. Don't put up with mistreatment or bullshit just so you won't be alone. Remember too, loneliness, shame, anxiety as just feelings that are bad, not prema-states of being, they can be overcome, they will not last forever.
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toastandjamie · 2 years
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The Lore stream fantastic. Chefs kiss. Wilbur Soot I owe you my life.
Okay incoherent analysis time, as always /rp
So the exile talk was incredibly interesting, for many reasons. But I think the main thing I found interesting about is how Wilbur responded initially! When Tommy began telling Wilbur about exile, there was a sense of disbelief. Wilbur was grasping at straws for a justification. Not asking but telling Tommy it couldn’t have been that bad(he would remember it being bad wouldn’t he?) then going on to say “he didn’t hurt you physically though right” as if that made it better, it probably did in Wilbur’s mind, after all if Dream had just hurt Tommy emotionally then it could of been accident right? Then he asks if Tommy deserved it. Wilbur was so desperate for a justification. I choose to believe it’s out of guilt, guilt for brushing off Tommy’s trauma, guilt that hadn’t protected his little brother. It also could have been him trying yo cling onto his hero worship of Dream, not wanting to complicate matters. Then he learns about the pillar. The switch is flipped and Wilbur KNOWS. He is so angry so absolutely ruined over the thought of Tommy, HIS TOMMY, attempting to commit suicide because of Dream. So angry that he blacks out and daydreams about repeatedly killing Dream. Dream had a life sentence and Wilbur wanted to kill him every single day of it for what he did to Tommy. Wilbur’s anger I feel is tinged with just as much guilt and self deprecation as it is protectiveness. Wilbur’s guilt of not protecting Tommy, of failing yet another person he loves, the fact that he himself has hurt Tommy had WANTED to hurt Tommy so irreparable during Pogtopia. Wilbur has hated himself since Pogtopia and there is no way he didn’t hear what Tommy was saying and didn’t compare himself to Dream, the his blackout wasn’t a projection of not only his anger towards Dream but his anger towards himself justified or not. Of course I’d be remiss if I didn’t mention that Fundy, his own son, had a few days prior threw himself off a cliff, committed suicide in front of him. Now his little brother, pointing to a giant tower is telling him that he also felt that pain, that hopelessness. A feeling Wilbur himself knows all too well. Wilbur must feel as if he had failed all of the kids he took care of. L’manburg was Wilbur and a bunch of kids and I think we forget that all too often. Fundy and Niki were both in their early twenties. Jack was freshly eighteen. Tommy and Tubbo were both sixteen. In canon Wilbur was at least in his thirties. He made L’manburg as a place of safety, he made L’manburg to protect those kids, to protect His kids. The responsibility and guilt over failing them must eat him up inside now that he’s seen the pain they’re all in. I don’t think it’s a stretch to say he blames himself.
They danced. Wilbur asked Tommy for his discs, and Tommy hesitated. But Tommy asked Wilbur to dance with him and used that to represent his trust. Tommy not only got his beach party, as cathartic as it is to see a party for one become a party of two. He wanted to see Wilbur be kind, wanted to let himself be vulnerable to Wilbur before he handed over the one thing that could break the pieces he’s carefully put back together. It was just a very sweet moment of sincere trust between these two.
It probably hurt a lot listening to Tommy scream at him. It hurt to watch. Wilbur who once again finds himself hurting Tommy for what he believes to be a greater good. Wilbur had always thought he was doing what was best for Tommy. That even if it hurts him now he’ll thank him in the long run. Despite contrary evidence Wilbur is resolute in this fact. That does not mean it doesn’t hurt to hear Tommy say that he trusted him, that Wilbur broke his trust again, that he hurt him again. He probably felt like he failed Tommy again, but he knew what he was doing. No matter how much it hurt them both it was for the best. He knows Tommy wasn’t completely happy even when the real discs were safely returned. Tommy didn’t need to be overjoyed, they both knew that in this case the ends justified the means. Wilbur won’t apologize because he isn’t sorry about this. Wilbur wanted to see Tommy safe no matter how much it hurt them both. Tommy won’t ever really be safe from Dream but Wilbur couldn’t kill Dream no matter how much he wants to so for what it’s worth he tried. Tommy is safer than he was before, and it gives them both some piece of mind. There’s one less piece on Dream’s chessboard than before. Little victories sometimes mean the most.
Was Wilbur selfish? A bit. But Wilbur’s selfishness is rooted deeply in ideals ingrained into Tommy. Tommy was just as happy to have those words in writing as Wilbur was. Even if it was simply a selfish desire to see come to fruition by Wilbur. Wilbur is a selfish person but his selfishness comes from insecurity. He wants Tommy by his side. He wants forgiveness to ease his guilt. He wants to go back to a past long gone. He holds onto his self hatred with a vice grip, refusing to see that L’manburg lived and died without him. His great ending, his final symphony in the button room, was not L’manburg’s downfall and he had no hand in it when it came. He cannot wallow in his self hatred for this, he hurt people but his wasn’t the death of his unfinished symphony and once he understands that, I think he’ll be better off for it.
That’s all for now, I’m very excited for his apology to Niki
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UNSENT
"I don't know what your intentions are, but if you are trying to lead him on, it's not going to happen. Fundy deserves so much better than you. You need to make your goals CLEAR before I take matters into my own hands."
Ended up not being sent because he figured it was too harsh. He doesn't want to appear controlling or accidentally ruin the friendship Fundy has with Punzo just because of his suspicions that aren't yet proven.
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