#[ stella conversations ]

[bet-on-me-13]

Ellie wasn't born a Halfa

So! Jason just found something weird. Or rather. Someone.

A little girl, no more than 6 or 7, crying behind a dumpster in an alleyway. Now, as unfortunate as it is, this isn't that strange a sight in Gotham. Kids are always running away from home, getting lost, being left homeless after a mugging gone wrong, but this time was different.

Because the kid was glowing.

When he found her hiding behind the Dumpster, a medical gown being the only thing she had to protect herself from thr frigid Gotham Winter, he didn't hesitate to give her his Jacket and take her to his nearest safe house.

(Actually it took a little while to convince her to accept the Jacket, and even longer to get her to agree to being taken to his safe house, but they got there in the end.)

When he had finally gotten her set up in a side room of the Warehouse, with the most comfortable bed and thickest Blankets he could find, he tried asking what had happened.

"Daddy lied." She said. "He said he loved me, but then he made another kid and said he didn't care about me."

And, once again, it was unfortunately not that uncommon to see runaway kids from neglectful homes, but the way she said it raised some flags in his head.

"...and, how did you end up in Gotham?"

"I ran. He said I was a spare, and that scared me."

Well, that was even more horrible than he had anticipated. What kind of monster tells their kid that they're a spare?!

"And, I'm sorry if this is a touchy subject but why are you glowing?"

She just buried her face in the Blankets and shook her head.

"Alright then, that's fine. You can tell me when you're ready, or even not tell me at all, I'll accept either or".

For the next few weeks, Jason juggled running his newly created criminal empire and raking care of the kid. He still hadn't gotten a name out of her, but she said to call her "Dp" instead. 'It's the best I'm gonna get', he thought.

It was only after a few more weeks, right before he was about to begin his Plan of confronting Bruce about the Joker still being alive, that she approached him and agreed to tell him everything. He was actually really glad that she finally seemed to trust him enough to tell him.

"Okay Dp, you can start wherever you want."

"...well, I guess I should start with my name..." She started, "...or rather, my lack of one..."

"What?" Asked Jason in a soft voice.

"I, I don't have a name." She explained, "Daddy never gave me one. He just called me DP-2."

"...what do you mean by two?" Asked Jason.

"It-It's my Experiment Number." She said, stuttering a little, "I'm not a normal person, I'm a Clone. I was made to be daddy's perfect child, but I was just the test run. He said that I wasn't needed after he made DP-3, and that all I was good for was spare parts."

Jason felt his throat dry up. Dp was a Clone? Of who? Who made her? What right did that guy have to reject her?! Who in their right mind would make a Clone and then reject the Clone?! How dare he!

The Pits perked up

He felt the Pits rising a little, but managed to push them down. Dp needed support, not the Pits.

"It's Okay kid." He said, holding her had reassuringly. "It's perfectly okay to be different. I accept you as you are, and I'm sure as hell not gonna abandon you that easily. Or, ever really. You're stuck with me, whether you like it or not."

She giggled, and hugged him. A thoughtful look crossed her face, and she pulled away.

"There is one other thing...you know how I glow sometimes?" She asked.

The Pits felt a sense of dread

Jason felt like he wasn't going to like this. "Yeah?"

"Well, when I said I was meant to be a Clone, I never mentioned who of." She explained slowly. "He's a kid named Danny, and when he was 14, he had an accident where he died and came back as a Half Undead."

No...

Jason really wasn't liking where this was going.

"When Da-Vlad tried to make me, he realized that those powers couldn't be cloned..." She paused here, seemingly gathering the courage to continue. "...they needed to be added afterwards."

NO.

He didn't. He had better not have, for his own Fucking Sake, he had better not have done what Jason thinks he did.

"So one day, he took he down to the Lab, and he put me in a big machine." He voice broke a little. "He locked me in there, and then I think...that I died..."

...

For once, Jason felt completely in tune with the Pits. He was going to Kill that guy.

...

Sorry if this feels a little rushed, I kept going back to add or change parts of it.

Basically, Vlad realized that you can't Clone a Halfa. So, he made a workaround. He just stuck his first Viable Clone into a Portal, and let the machine Kill her. When he realized that it worked, he knew he had no use for Ellie anymore aside from spare parts.

And he told her as much, Vlad is a fucking asshole.

Ellie, of course, got scared and ran away. She ended up in Gotham, and was adopted by Jason right at the start of his Criminal Career.

When Jason finally hears about the rest of his kids' Backstory, he decides that Batman can wait his turn. He needs to go Kill that Vlad Bastard.

#Dpxdc #Dp x dc #Dcxdp #Dc x dp #Danny Phantom #Dc #Dcu #Dani Phantom #Danielle Phantom #Ellie Phantom #Ellie is younger #Vlad decided to try his experiment the moment she was old enough to feasibly survive #The Pits are not seperate from Jason #They are actually his Ghost Half (aka his emotional half) shining through #Jason is a Halfa #He doesn't know that though #After they finish their conversation Jason asks Dp if she wants a name #She says yes and eventually he calls her Stella #Or Ellie for short #Cause she is his little starlight #Danny is unaware that Ellie exists #I wonder what happened with him #Maybe he is living his life back in Amity? #Maybe he is on the run because the “real danny” showed up with Vlad claiming that he had been replaced by an Imposter Ghost #And his Parents instantly believed him because Vlad is claiming that he has been no contact for so long trying to save “the real danny” #Maybe Jason finds a second glowing kid hiding behind a dumpster? #And maybe he realizes that this is his daughter's older brother? #Is that what happens? #Well maybe it is #But that's between Me and my crippling inability to finish my Part 2's

[funhouse-mirror-barbie]

Nuanced and Multifaceted Conflict vs. “Good v. Evil” in fiction

So. This is another thing I’ve wanted to talk about for a while. I promise I won’t always be focusing on Helluva Boss in my critiques, and I actually have quite a few other series I want to talk about.

There’s a big chance that I’ll be saying everything other people have already said, but I can’t help but WANT to talk about this specific character in regard to the story’s conflict. I think that it’s important to recognize when a character is written to be a complex person, and when a character is written to be an enemy to be defeated, and how not following through with your set-up can affect your story.

And HB does that A LOT in my opinion.

So. Let’s get into it. This time I’ll be talking about complex conflict between characters vs. black and white conflict, and I’ll also be touching on story set-ups and audience expectations.

I want to talk about a character who could have really made some of the internal character conflicts have so much more depth and intrigue. I want to talk about Stella Goetia

*as a side note this post is MUCH longer than I intended but I really wanted to get into a lot of the background and reasons for how Stella’s character development has actually completely changed what HB’d story conflict could have looked like. I’ll try and sum up everything in the end in a TLDR for y’all

So. Most of the reviews of her character I see talk about how she’s been “ruined” by the writing team revealing that she’s always been very abusive towards Stolas

I have to start off by saying I actually don’t think that Stella or her portrayal was “ruined” by the writing direction her character has been taken in.

In fact, this critique bothers me, because it doesn’t really get to what I think the actual root of why people are disappointed in Stella’s characterization, and the type of conflict that now exists between her and Stolas.

The main reason I believe people are unsatisfied with Stella is because they believed that her character was being set up for a complex and nuanced conflict between her and Stolas, and then that turned out not to be the case.

A quick disclaimer- I do think it’s possible to subvert audience expectations about story and characters in a satisfying way. But it has to be done in a way that respects the audiences intelligence and willingness to think about the story.

If your plot-twist, unreliable narrator, subversion, or what-have-you is done well, the audience should be able to either figure out what’s going based on the little information you’ve given them, and if they don’t, the change or subversion should still make sense and CLICK in hindsight.

Otherwise, your subversion will end up feeling cheap or confusing. Or worse, like a lie.

And this is one of the MAIN issues I think people have with Stella.

As the audience, we were NOT given enough information on her or her character before it’s revealed that she’s just “evil” and always has been, apparently since she was a literal child.

Again, I don’t think it’s an inherently bad decision to have a flat or pure evil villain. I’m fine with Stella being one, even if it’s less interesting to me personally.

But it’s definitely very different from what was initially implied and set-up, and the audience can pick up on that.

Before S2E1 “The Circus” we see Stella a total of 3 times in person, with one time being a flashback.

I’m going to go over those times to analyze if anything set-up in Stella’s appearances points towards her being. Well, totally and irredeemably awful and abusive I guess.

The very first time we see Stella is in the same bed with Stolas—Octavia calls for her parents, both Stolas AND Stella. Stella grumbles and refuses to get up and tells Stolas to go. This doesn’t immediately strike me as a sign of her being a terrible person. That exact scenario is present in a lot of family comedies, kids’ movies, and sitcoms.

Nothing about this screams that Stella is a terrible parent or an abusive partner to me. It just tells me she’s tired and doesn’t want to get up, which again, is not uncommon.

The next time we see her, she’s yelling at Stolas, and she throws a servant at him in anger.

Now, there’s no excuse for this, her behavior here is not okay, regardless of her feelings. But we understand why she’s acting the way she is--she’s furious with Stolas for cheating on her. At this point with the information we have, it’s also very reasonable to believe her feelings have been hurt.

Later Octavia talks about how her parents didn’t used to hate each other, and the way Stolas’ tries to explain their failing marriage to her comes across like his relationship with Stella is one that’s always had difficulties that they have tried and failed to overcome.

None of this information is enough to really convey or hint that Stella is and has always been abusive or evil. It shows that Stella and Stolas have a very rough relationship, and that Stella most likely has anger management difficulties, but you have to do lot of extra work to come to the conclusion that Stella is completely at fault here.

The next time we see her though, things have clearly escalated, because it’s revealed that she’s one that hired Striker to assassinate Stolas.

Now. Usually. Yeah. That would be a HUGE red flag. And I mean. It still obviously is.

But, and I never thought I’d use this uno reverse card, this is one of the few times where the explanation of “But it’s hell, what did you expect???” actually makes sense to me.

Because yeah, it is hell. It’s the end of episode 5 when we learn this, and our protagonists have killed and assassinated multiple people. Taking a hit out on people really doesn’t seem to be that uncommon of a thing in hell.

Even the next scene after the reveal that Stella is the one who hired Striker makes light of how serious this is, by showing that Stella was basically yelling her assassination plot right to Stolas’ face.

This is played for laughs! I genuinely am not sure if the writers intended for this to be foreshadowing of Stella’s abuse or not because if so, they turned her attempting to kill her husband into a joke!

If you cannot keep your themes or tone consistent, how is the audience supposed to follow your story?

There is subtle storytelling, and then there’s tacking information and character points later on in your writing. And this can have two causes.

Either your audience has to do the work of story-telling for you and make up their own reasons for what’s happening to make the story coherent OR they will be disappointed and dissatisfied by the final product.

I think that’s the main reason why S2E1 of Helluva Boss felt so jarring story-wise, and why Stella, to me at least, suddenly felt like a brand new character.

Like I haven’t been this confused by a character being suddenly evil since Hans from Frozen.

(like seriously why the hell did they put this scene in if not to just trick the audience. This isn’t giving us any plot info it’s only giving us contradictory info on his character. Like I talked about before, Hans’ heel-face-turn doesn’t feel like a twist. It feels like a lie.)

Okay so, how does any of this actually affect anything? Who cares if Stella is evil, that doesn’t automatically make the story bad!

Well. Yeah, of course not. Ironically, having the main conflict your story being a battle between “Good v. Bad” characters is neither good nor bad. It’s just a story decision. And ultimately at the end of the day, the writers of Helluva Boss can choose to tell their story however they’d like.

But, depending on how this is executed, good v evil stories can be a lot less interesting than morally grey or complicated conflicts and characters.

I am more interested in the version of the story where Stella and Stolas are imperfect and messy people. I am more interested in the story where Stolas has an affair to escape being in an arranged marriage, and Stella overreacts by arranging a hit on her husband (unless calling out a hit is normal in hell, but we can’t know b/c there is no baseline for what is considered normal in hell)

I am so much more interested in the story where Stolas and Stella are both depicted as being in the wrong, as being incredibly hurt by each other’s actions, and as not knowing how to repair their broken relationship for the sake of their daughter.

That story feels very real to me. It’s one I want to engage and invest in.

I want to see if these characters can grow to accept their mistakes and learn and change for the sake of Octavia and having to co-exist with each other, or if they’ll slip back into mutual destruction and toxicity.

But that’s not the story we’ll get to see, because it seems like the writers are more interested in keeping Stolas from having to grow as a character. And because of that, Stella has been turned into an evil obstacle that must be defeated, instead of a nuanced and real person.

I also feel like I have to say. I know I would be MUCH less frustrated by this if I hadn’t seen an HB crew member talking about how their show is similar to Bojack Horseman.

Because. It’s just not. I’m sorry, I’m not saying that to be mean, or condescending, or rude, but the way characters are written in Helluva Boss is almost completely black and white at this point.

Regardless of the writer’s intent, the vast majority of the choices they have made in Season 2 come off as explanations to excuse the protagonist’s mistakes, and give them a “get out of being potentially in the wrong” free card.

Compared to the writing decisions in Bojack, which almost always has characters confront their wrongdoings, for better or worse, HB honestly feels like it’s the Anti-Bojack.

It would take a TON of character development and time to make HB’s characters as interesting, fleshed-out, and as real as Bojack’s are, and at this point that’s I don’t think it will ever happen.

Again. Having black and white conflict is FINE. It is a choice in story telling that can be done very effectively. But if you are making a black and white story where one side is always terrible and evil, and one side can do no wrong, you can’t act like you’ve written something that is deeper and more emotionally complex and grey than that.

And the first time the writers gave Stella more than 3 sentences to string together, they made it very clear that any chance of her being a more complex and engaging character was being tossed out the window.

————

TLDR:

The main reason people are upset about Stella being shown as abusive in S2E1 of HB is probably because the initial depictions of her didn’t give us enough information on her character to tell that she was just evil/a terrible person.

The way the story was written in S1 to set up the possibility of a very interesting and complex conflict between Stella and Stolas, and when it was revealed that she’s just. The worst. There were people that were disappointed by this, because they expected more.

Audiences actually aren’t idiots, and when you subtly foreshadow something and then completely change things, that can be frustrating.

It’s MORE than okay to write a straightforward good v evil story, but it depending on the way it’s written and executed, it may not be as interesting to mature audiences as a more morally grey story would be.

If you can’t write characters confronting their flaws and being in the wrong, please don’t compare your writing to Bojack, I mean. C’mon.

#helluva boss critical #helluva boss critique #character critique #stella goetia #hb stella #helluva boss stella #media conversation #media critique #media criticism #writing female characters #writing critique #writing #funhouse convo

[supernova25]

drunk scaramouche brainrot

drunk scara would be so fluffy and sweet. like the opposite of him yk! he'd go "ooh! i- *hic* its my belo- *hic* beloved [name]!" while walking towards you. hes so cute when hes drunk. hes just kisksiskisskisskiss mwawmawma when hes drunk.

wait i should make a drunk 6reeze work soon...

THIS IS ALL YOU GUYS ARE GETTING.

#[ conversations ] . ☆ #[ stellas scaramouche addiction ] . ☆ #scaramouche x reader #scaramouche imagines #scaramouche brainrot frrr

[specter-dollhouse]

Making new friends comes pretty easy to Stella, but only when there are interesting people around. This town seems so much smaller to her than where she grew up.

#Stella Roth #Roth Family #Roth Household #Riverblossom Hills #2t4 Riverblossom Hills #2t4 #2t4 premade #2t4 premades #ts4 #sims 4 #ts4mm #maxis match #the sims 4 #2t4 sims #2t4 conversion #2t4 simblr #maxis match fashion #brindleton bay #ts4 fashion

[nocturnalazure]

#ts3 #sims 3 #sims 3 story #sims stories #tteot story #stella deville #ralph connery #more on the content of that conversation later #i'm just sowing seeds for future storylines #so that i can come back with links and references to this 5 years from now xD #important thing is: the lab is not empty right now... #laurie arc

[hezuart]

Stolitz Timeline

I spent 2 hours today for you to bear witness: the chaos of Helluva Bosses's main pairing's writing

#stolitz #helluva boss #helluva boss stolas #helluva boss blitzo #blitzo #stolas #vivziepop #houston we have several problems here #seriously tho for loo loo land Blitzo just got the book so technically JUST started his business #but millie and moxxie were already hired? #are people gonna tell me that loo loo land and the morning after are separate incidents? #why on earth would stella be freaking out like she just found out? #why would stolas be rushing to explain himself? #IF they've already had this conversation? #and viv already said 'the reality set in thereafter' indicating this is the same day #we got issues folks

[sims-and-counting]

Heaven: Stella Grace, darling, let’s sit down and have a very important conversation.

SG: Yes, Mama. Whatever you say, Mama.

Heaven: Now, you remember your purity pledge that you made to me and your daddy and the Watcher? And you promised to wait for any - ahem - intimacy - until the Watcher brings you a husband.

SG: Yes, Mama. 

Heaven: Well, now that you’re courting age - 

SG: I’m only 15!

Heaven: That’s old enough! You could be married in a year! Anyway, where was I... oh right! So once the Watcher gives you a husband and you’re married, then you need to start growing your quiver for the Watcher....

30 minutes later...

SG: Mama, I don’t think I want to get married... 

Heaven: Don’t be silly, it’s your duty to raise up children for the Watcher! Speaking of which - is someone crying? Can you go deal with that?

#gen8 #just gonna let you all imagine how that conversation went #stella grace gilbert #heaven gilbert

[shiuefha]

Aww, so it's for both of them

Well, initially, she made it for herself and imagined it as the Stella Star, but when she found out about what happened with Loid and Bond, she gave it to both of them, how sweet.

This episode is such a great end to this season, and...

They surely will give us season 3 someday!

And yeah, when Loid 'asked' Anya in his mind to get another Stella Star soon, I couldn't help but think, 'Don't worry, Loid, she'll definitely get it in the next season.' (Oops, does it count as a spoiler?)

But still, I can't believe that season 2 is finally over now... I think I'll follow the Indonesian dub from now on (at least this dub hasn't over yet as it just recently reached episode 4 or 29).

Well then, see you tomorrow for the next chapter of the manga.

#personal post #personal thoughts #spy x family #spy x family anime #season 2 episode 12 #season 2 last episode #that conversation about the stella star though #and also i'm glad that some of the characters appeared in the epilogue of the episode #episode 37

[unimportantweirdo]

my favourite part of stella firma is how i.m.o.g.e.n. gets more sarcastic and conversational through the seasons

#shes gone from basically just saying 'watch it buster' and 'brief initiating' #to being an actual part of the conversation #i love her #what a gal #murderous and funny #ideal tbh #stella firma #i.m.o.g.e.n. #david 7 #trexel geistman

[funhouse-mirror-barbie]

I talked a lot about Stella’s appearances previously, but I wanted to talk about her other appearance in season one—this scene:

This scene is interesting to me. I’ve seen some discussion on tumblr debating that this scene was only showing that Stolas felt guilty about cheating on Stella, not that Stolas was actually in the wrong for doing so.

And I find this logic fascinating b/c, yes if you would like to interpret it that way, you can. It’s up to you to decide how you want to interpret or engage with any work.

That said, I don’t think that competent and consistent writing would make the audience try to justify why Stella was there in hindsight. (Conversation continues below cut)

This scene is significant to me because the visual composition and direction of the animation puts Stella at the same level of importance as Octavia.

Which, in my opinion, means that this is one of the few times Helluva Boss did “Show don’t Tell” really well.

Through the visuals, the lyrics of the song, and Stolas’ reaction to Ozzie’s conjured Stella and Via, the audience is told that “these are people Stolas has both failed. He knows he has failed them and fears losing them. But he still hasn’t considered how his actions would impact them, and is now being faced with the idea of that possibility for the first time”

I specifically say that “he’s afraid of losing them” because the illusion of Octavia and Stella both turn their backs on Stolas, leaving him with just Blitzø. It’s extremely clear visual story telling—Stolas wants to be with Blitzø, but in doing so he is neglecting and will potentially lose his relationships with his wife and child.

And, at this point, because it’s before S2E1, the audience has still not been told that Stella is evil and abusive, and have no reason to think that Stolas wouldn’t care if Stella left (and again you can argue that there’s foreshadowing in hindsight but I have already gone over in depth why there isn’t enough information about Stella for the audience to see that coming)

What this part of the song is communicating to us is that Stella has at least some importance in Stolas’ life.

I think you could say that “well obviously Ozzie just didn’t know enough about Stolas’ personal life” but at the same time, what is being depicted in the show is also for the audience’s benefit.

When you are using a visual medium for your story-telling, your compositions and what you physically show the audience is important.

Like this isn’t subtext, it’s not even subtle—in a scene that is depicting Stolas’ shame, guilt, and embarrassment over his affair with Blitzø, Stella is included with Octavia because he knows he wronged her too.

(Also I almost didn’t write “Stolas’ shame, guilt etc.” b/c I was like “well wait, I can’t remember for sure that Stolas was shown as being ashamed or embarrassed about his relationship with Blitzø” so I went back to check and rewatched Ozzie’s and like.. Stolas being ashamed of his affair with Blitzø was shown even more explicitly than I remembered. Like, he straight up tries to ditch Blitzø and then hides his face after Ozzie asks him if he gave up his family to be with Blitzø ????

And Blitzø’s reaction to this shows he’s obviously hurt by this? Like. I know some people have acted like Blitzø is in the wrong for rejecting Stolas after Ozzie’s but I can’t imagine not being hurt by this reaction…)

But anyway, back to the main point—All of these visuals and the character’s reactions to what’s going on around them are meant to illicit emotions within us, but if Stella’s abuse and complete cruelty were always planned and she was always supposed to be hated, the emotional impact this scene is significantly lessened.

I know I’ve already said this, but I just can’t help thinking that the story would have been SO MUCH more interesting if Stolas was held fully accountable and actually had to reflect on his actions. There was so much potential for the plot and deep nuanced character development and change.

At the end of the day though, it’s not my story, and the writers and creative heads of HB get to tell the story they want to tell.

As a final note—I am not trying to nitpick, these are things that occur to me while I am trying to understand the story and engage with it on a deeper level.

But with every new episode, I find myself having more questions about why certain choices were made, and getting more and more confused about why characters behave the way they do. I can’t help thinking that the story was never fully planned out, and I worry that’s only going to become more obvious as time goes on.

#funhouse convo #media criticism #media critique #helluva boss critical #helluva boss critique #media conversation #writing critique #stella goetia #not tagging st0las cause people will probably send me hate #please don’t send me hate I’m not trying to attack anyone and the show does not have feelings it is just media

[charmixpower]

Whats something that makes everyone break down in tears immediately

I actually did a art series about something similar for the self confidence gem quest if you'd like to see them here:

Bloom. Stella. Flora. Tecna. Musa. Aisha.

But something that would make them just break down in tears.... The obviously thing would be something bad happening to their friends and family, so I'm not even gonna mention that stuff

Angst my beloved

Musa is probably the easiest for this, as she cries the most out of the main cast. Being told that the guy she wasn't date and was visibly not interested in her, is not interested in her and has a girlfriend makes her break out into tears. This happens TWICE mind you. Musa is not the most emotionally stable person in the world. Musa is probably the most sensitive about her emotions and her view of herself, so someone just yelling something really mean about one of those two things would set her off pretty quickly. Something more personal would probably be like, in s1 Musa has a habit of being snarky and pessimistic to the point of saying shit that's really mean (in what I think is a clear attempt to protect her own self esteem) so one of her friends yelling at her about that would make her sob, Riven has always been a raw spot for her so some strong needling about him, or really any of her friends getting really upset at her for any reason would do the trick. Pick your poison, lots of options here

Aisha is a bit of an easy crier but she also hardens up whenever someone tries to intentionally make her upset, so if someone makes her cry it's usually accidental. There's two easy ways to go about this, either lock her in a dark room, or pick at Aisha's feelings of responsibility for her friends and claim she failed at doing what a good friend would do. Aisha is always one of the first to make sure a plan go smoothly, so it isn't a stretch to assume this means it's important to her and she's anxious on top of that

Bloom has pretty low self-esteem, a constant feeling of being an outsider, a naive streak a mile wide, and was bullied. I think she's more likely to get angry than cry most of the time, but there's a lot to work with. Especially if you pull a Trix and Valtor and just start lying to her about shit. Claim her friends don't really like her, say that her bio parents hated her, say that everyone at Alfea thinks she's a nuisance, say that she'll never belong at Alfea, say that Sky is dating down, those topics are what she's the most sensitive about, so just making up a really really mean lie about them that barely holds water should do the trick

Stella used humor as a coping mechanism, and like most people who do that it's hard to make her cry because she actively does anything she can to avoid being visibly upset. Unfortunately for her she has two hot button issues that are enough to make her cry if needled in the correct way. Her parents divorce and the fact that most people don't find her likeable. If she's pushed about her parents divorce being her fault or how other people view her she will start crying. Especially about the divorce, and how her parents are very distant, thats like her most tender spot

Flora is emotionally mature and has a calm disposition so it's pretty hard to make her cry. I feel like you'd have to put her mom energy against her, something would have to either say she was useless to her friend and were only dragging them down or make her feel that way, and that would make her cry. Anything a mom friend would worry about being thrown back in her face would do the trick

Tecna is very hard to make cry, half because she has a vice grip on her emotions that would make a constrictor boa jealous and half because she cant just be lied to about something bc if it's not logical she's not believing it. However it's shown that she can't really cope well with people acting outside of what she thinks is correct, getting frustrated and upset about it to tears but I don't think that matches this well. Tecna has a bit of a thing about being compared to a robot, being called unfeeling, or anyone implying that she doesn't have compassion or doesn't care about other people. This upsets her a lot, so being needled about this topic would probably make her cry

#At most they'd start crying halfway though the argument/conversation #at best they'd start crying as soon as the words are said. Hope thats what u wanted #winx club #winx headcanons #winx club headcanons #winx musa #winx aisha #winx layla #winx bloom #winx stella #winx flora #winx tecna #long post

[supernova25]

no one feed my scaramouche delusions PLEASE.

unless you want me to write... feel free to bully me into writing as scaramouche /srs

#[ conversations ] . ☆ #[ stellas scaramouche addiction ] . ☆ #im not stoping anyone from feeding my delusions though! #go ahead babes

[supernovaa-remnant]

why does the fear of calling mutuals the wrong name never go away 😭

#hello yes we've literally dmed and have had conversations before #however what if I've been thrown into an alternate timeline #where your name is different #and I make a fool of myself #stella rambles

[sagesfandomspot]

i really love the idea of rory's cooking because the show always plays with their name both being lorelai (as in 2.06 introduce lorelai gilmore and in 6.01 new and improved lorelai) and the truth is... rory isn't her mother. she might be named after her the show love to play with their name like that but rory learning to cook is make so much sense. we even saw bits of it in s6 & s7 - offering to make logan's a sandwich, making herself omelette for breakfast... of course it would come more natural for her because she took the time she didn't speak with lorelai to learn a new skill she never had a chance to learn while living with her mother. i just love the idea of rory in the kitchen humming making food for herself being proud of what she made.

yes yes yes yes yes!!! like it's a point that's made over and over again throughout the show: Rory is her own person. Her and her mom share a name and a lot of interests, but they are different people. And that's something Lorelai seems to struggle with sometimes. Rory has opinions and interests that don't reflect her own and that almost freaks Lorelai out a bit. Which is why she's so shocked to see Rory being competent in the kitchen in A Vineyard Valentine. Rory has an entire life outside of Lorelai and it's kind of a foreign concept to her, but I absolutely love it for Rory. I love seeing her develop into her own person!! I love her finding skills and hobbies that are separate from her mom!! cooking is a fantastic creative outlet for Rory, and it actually ties into her relationship with Lorelai because of their shared love of food. It's like Rory took something that meant a lot to her from her childhood and brought it with her into adulthood in her own way. and I think that's kind of beautiful tbh.

#bless stella for bringing this to our attention #i spent a bunch of time last night editing and rewriting bits of my wip to line up with this and it honestly feels SO much better now #i love chef rory #and i love this conversation!!! #thegreatwars #asks #gilmore girls #rory gilmore #lorelai gilmore

[daylightaftertherain]

18 for meet ugly with wilmon/stedrika please :D

18. getting hit in the face with a snowball intended for someone else

oooo I love this one, combined both ships into a single one shot, so this is mostly stedricka with wilmon in the background bc my sapphics need more attention :D

"Ow, what the fuck?" Stella yelps. A snowball's somehow smacked into her face, sending snow flying all over her hair, bag, and clothes. She skids to a halt on the icy sidewalk and topples over, pulling Wille down with her in a mess of gangly limbs and blonde hair. Their coffees promptly explode all over her scarf. Felice manages to keep upright and keep all of their shopping out of the snow, stifling a giggle. Both of them automatically mumble "fuck you"s to her.

"Oh, shit, I'm so sorry!" A girl's head pops out of a snowy bush in the park Stella's group had been passing through, and she quickly runs over and begins brushing off the remains of the rogue snowball that had hit Stella.

And yeah, normally Stella would be pissed, both because of the snowball and the embarrassing fall onto the side of the street, but the thing is, the girl is gorgeous. Long brown hair swept into a messy side braid, faced scrunched with concern and focused on Stella's (expensive and new) scarf, and lips and cheeks both red from the cold. She catches herself staring at a snowflake on the girl's eyelashes, and stops before her thoughts get too gay and her friends inevitably notice.

"Uh, hi?" she says. It must come out harsher than she'd planned, because the girl jumps and looks up with big, alarmed eyes. "Hi! Um, sorry again, my friends were having a snowball fight, and things got a bit out of control. I'll pay for your scarf, obviously, and-"

"Right now, just your name is fine," Stella interrupts, trying to smile so she doesn't scare off the previously mentioned gorgeous girl off after just thirty seconds. Felice would never let her live that down.

"Oh. It's uh, Fredricka," Fredricka smiles awkwardly. Before Stella can reply, someone else runs over. He's bundled up in a purple hoodie and gray parka, dark curls escaping his beanie.

"Yikes," he says simply, and begins helping up Wille, who locks eyes with the boy and flushes so hard Felice immediately starts laughing. They strike up a shy conversation, and Wille stills when Simon reaches up to brush snow from his hair. Gay disaster.

"That's uh, Simon. He's new to our friend group, Henry introduced him, he's nice though, and uh, you did not need to know that," Fredricka sighs. "I'm sorry, I tend to ramble a lot."

"It's... fine," Stella says softly, "I don't mind." (She hates rambling from anyone else except Fredricka now, apparently.)

Fredricka looks slightly surprised again, but she recovers fairly quickly and beams. Stella thinks distantly that she'd probably forget the coffee cooling on her scarf and the snow down the front of her sweater if Fredricka kept smiling like that, and, wow. She needs to calm down.

"Thanks for being one of the only people who tolerate my rambling, I guess?" Fredricka laughs, "and I'm still paying for the scarf, but uh, I don't have any cash on me?"

"You could just give me your number and buy me a coffee some time," Stella rushes before she can lose her nerve.

And well, Fredricka's slightly surprised but happy expression is going to be Stella's new favorite thing, isn't it. She's not mad about it, honestly.

"Okay," Fredricka breathes. When she's rattled off her number and they've said a slightly breathless goodbye, Stella distracts herself from the wave of warmth climbing up her cheeks by relentlessly teasing Wille's mess of a conversation with the other boy ("He's called Simon?" "Why the fuck do you have that mushy-ass expression on your face?") (She promises to text Fredricka and ask for Simon's number as well)

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#this was fun to write :D stella being a sapphic softie is my favorite version of her #stedricka #ask game #stygianirondiangelo #young royals #also just know wilmon's conversation was v gay and v dumb and wille got simon's number eventually and fredricka is panicking in Gay

[walker-extended-universe]

Kevin: Imagine if someone handed you a box full of all the items you have lost throughout your life

August: It would be nice to get my sense of purpose back.

Stella: Oh wow, my childhood innocence! Thank you for finding this.

Liam: My will to live! I haven't seen this in 10 years!

Cassie: I knew I lost that potential somewhere!

Cordell: Mental stability, my old friend!

Trey: Guys, could you lighten up a little?

#walker #incorrect quotes #kevin golden #august walker #stella walker #liam walker #cassie perez #cordell walker #trey barnett #i think i'm funny #this is how the thanksgiving conversation should've gone