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Vivziepop finds MxM relationships more arousing than WxW ones, which is why she has multiple queer male characters and relationships, most of which are heavily sexual and the center of attention in both Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss. Few female characters are queer, with the rest being straight or unknown. Most sapphic relationships only exist in the background.

Out of two shows, the only main sapphic relationship is Chaggie, which is nonsexual. Charlie and Vaggie share little physical intimacy, don’t speak about sex or express sexual attraction to each other. This wouldn’t be an issue if it weren’t for the fact that Huskerdust, Stolitz, and Fizzmodeus, all of which are MxM ships, got to be sexual while Chaggie, a WxW ship, is forbidden from being so. 

Angel, Stolas, and Fizzarolli are free to be sexual and express their horniness for their love interests, but Charlie and Vaggie can’t do even a fraction of this because Vivziepop doesn’t find it “hot” when women do it.

Only male characters can be horny and have sexual relationships because it turns her on. There’s no doubt that if Vivziepop found WxW as arousing as MxM, then she would’ve flooded both of her shows with it. 

#anti vivziepop #vivziepop critical #this is why I will never consider her show good queer rep as on top of her problems with mlm queer rep #her wlw or even nlw or nlm is non exsistant and being a background character doesn't count #You as an author cannot make this big a stink and say you're so queer friendly and for queer rep #then ignore the communities you can't sexualize for your benefit. #hazbin hotel critical #helluva boss critical

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Saw a recent post on Tiktok about how people complaining at Viv not having fat rep shouldn't be saying anything when they don't like Mimzy as if that excuses the zero diversity before and after her in both Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss. That statement combined with someone making a fat joke about Moxie in the comments (with a startling high number of likes) shows me how little Viv's watchers like or even care about fat people and their voice when it comes to rep.

I know I've mentioned it a few times in talking about Mammon and The musical episode as a whole, but fatphobia is a problem in Viv's work in very blatant ways, ways that are not new by a long shot. Fat people have been constantly talking about this for years, about wanting to be shown as people and have their bodies shown in a way that doesn't reduce them to the butt of the joke or only paint them in the "sexy fat" since that's obviously the one way people could think a fat person was attractive. However, people, especially in this fandom, look at that ask for respect and see as nothing more than gum on the bottom of their shoe.

It's not only heartbreaking but morally bunk, and I honestly can't tell if it comes from their ignorance or this unbeatable need to defend Viv from ever possible critique (even if said critique would actively benefit her). But it doesn't honestly matter.

Fat people wanting more rep then one person per show (especially when that one person is a walking example of stereotypical bad fat rep) and for a creator to not include fat bodies as a joke is not a big ask. It's the bare minimum and the fact that people are clamoring to try and excuse Viv's fatphobia by blaming the audience says that everyone making this claim does not care about the voices of fat people nor actually respecting their opinions on the subject.

When fat people are asking for their body types to be treated seriously and to not be minimized to fat stereotypes or insulting jokes, the response isn't to shame them for daring to have that opinion nor is it to make a joke that a character commonly insulted with fat jokes is actually fat rep.

If you want to lick Viv's boots, that's your right but stop putting down fat people who are just asking to be respected in media to prove that loyalty.

#vivziepop critical #helluva boss critical #hazbin hotel critical #helluva boss criticism #hazbin hotel criticism #fandom criticism #tw fatphobia #rant #f your fav creator cannot create any other dialogue options to show that one character hates another besides fat jokes #then that creator cannot fucking write #If they keep showing fat people only as stereotypes or as that special kind of sexy fat #then they are not only not a good writer but their art skills need fucking work

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(☞ﾟヮﾟ)☞💙☜(ﾟヮﾟ☜)

#helluva boss fanart #glitz and glam #I love this so much #the outfits are so lovely and it fits with their designs too #Op did a wonderful job ! #back to our regularly scheduled programming #aka me adoring glitz and glam and all their fan art

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I think I was not clear enough in my first post, so let me clarify my main point here: Vivzie should have never focused on redemption in this story because Hell has never ever been about redemption nor are her characters people who want redemption or to go to heaven.

Her focus should have solely remained on the Extermination, never straying into redemption because not only does the setting not make since for that but it's just stupid to have when all of your characters are beyond that point/lack any remorse for the sins that got them to hell in the first place.

While there is still so many holes in the Extermination plot, it is a much better focus for the characters Vivzie has. Removing this idea of redemption that Charlie is so focused on (even though there has never been proof that Vivzie's meant for her hell to be like purgatory at all) would have made Charlie a better character and would have made her attempts towards protecting sinners feel more genuine and not oblivious.

It also would have allowed for Viv to actually make complex villains who have complex reasoning for what they've done instead of her taking her normal route of "we know this guy is evil cause he makes bigoted comments all the time and is mean for no reason"

Someone needs to say it: The "Heaven is actually bad" plot line that Hazbin is based around is useless when you spend more then 2 minutes thinking about Vivzie's Hell and her characters.

Besides it being much too early for this idea, the revelation that Heaven or at least the beings running it aren't good people has little to no impact when the people who are being harmed by this are all horrible people. Stay with me here. None of these people are people who were unfairly brought into hell and we are never ever introduced to someone who was either. Why should we care that Heaven is "evil" and blocking redemption when all the sinners in hell we see are the worst of the worst who would have never gotten in even if it was fair.

For the "Heaven is bad" plot line to actually work, you need people who were just one sin away from Heaven, who would've gotten into Heaven if circumstance hadn't forced them down a path that stole it from them. You need characters who aren't comedic villains but land in the middle of morally grey. Those who deserved to be in Heaven but because Heaven refused to consider their circumstances, they were tossed to burn with people much worse than them. Those are the people who should be your main cast cause those are the people who would actually be impacted by Heaven being bad/ Heaven lying.

Angel dust, for all his trauma, was still part of the mafia and likely had killed people before (showing to almost take joy in it). Husk became an overlord and gambled souls, so he had to have had blood on his hands before hell. Alastor is a serial killer, and the list goes on and on. Sure, these characters are (somewhat) interesting, but they don't make for good characters to have when the key plot line is that Heaven is a scam. Even if that fact is true, none of them were ever going to get there in the first place and this is something we also se in every single background sinner shown in Hell too. They were never close to getting there, so why would they or we care that Heaven is bad when all sinners are shown to be horrific people who are at best in the dark grey area of morality.

If you look at it from the "angel's are unfairly killing sinners" route, it still doesn't work. If the angels are killing them, what makes it different then the sinner on sinner violence that hell is full off? Why is them dying by angels this bad thing when they are just as likely if not 10x times more likely to get knifed in the back by other sinners in hell the other 364 days, especially when everyone here apparently is just as horrible as the next person. You cannot condemn the angels for killing demons and then make a joke of out sinners killing each other and never show sinners who doesn't want to kill people. Life either matters or it doesn't and when the main cast doesn't even show a care for life (outside of Charlie's who's entire flaw is her naivety), why should the audience.

On top of that, Vivzie's whole overpopulation aspect and the Heaven plot line would connect better if she actually had people like those I mentioned above, people who stole to survive but got tossed out cause stealing is technically wrong, people who killed another to protect someone else but were still sent to hell because even though they saved that person's life that person wasn't supposed to be saved, people who passively engaged in sins but never really did anything harmful under them. This would add into how Hell is so overpopulated and highlight why its so important that Heaven is evil/ why Charlie's plan isn't just a naive pathetic fever dream.

In the end, Vivzie should have never made Heaven the central plot of this show nor tried to assign this blatant good vs evil to that conflict. Neither her characters nor her writing choices are able to respond to this conflict in a way that will end or even tell the story in a satisfactory manner.

#anti hazbin hotel #hazbin hotel critical #vivziepop critical #spindlehorse criticism #reblog cause people weren't getting it #I am making a villains post because we need to talk about how they are all the exact same for the most part especially in Helluva Boss

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#helluva boss critical #vivziepop critical #helluva boss criticism #hazbin hotel critical #hazbin hotel criticism #Its literally the same character with the same stupid misogyny jokes with the exact same tone of voice #Vivzie is unable to actually make fucking villains that are good villains. The only reason they have is *insert bigotry here*

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Someone needs to say it: The "Heaven is actually bad" plot line that Hazbin is based around is useless when you spend more then 2 minutes thinking about Vivzie's Hell and her characters.

Besides it being much too early for this idea, the revelation that Heaven or at least the beings running it aren't good people has little to no impact when the people who are being harmed by this are all horrible people. Stay with me here. None of these people are people who were unfairly brought into hell and we are never ever introduced to someone who was either. Why should we care that Heaven is "evil" and blocking redemption when all the sinners in hell we see are the worst of the worst who would have never gotten in even if it was fair.

For the "Heaven is bad" plot line to actually work, you need people who were just one sin away from Heaven, who would've gotten into Heaven if circumstance hadn't forced them down a path that stole it from them. You need characters who aren't comedic villains but land in the middle of morally grey. Those who deserved to be in Heaven but because Heaven refused to consider their circumstances, they were tossed to burn with people much worse than them. Those are the people who should be your main cast cause those are the people who would actually be impacted by Heaven being bad/ Heaven lying.

Angel dust, for all his trauma, was still part of the mafia and likely had killed people before (showing to almost take joy in it). Husk became an overlord and gambled souls, so he had to have had blood on his hands before hell. Alastor is a serial killer, and the list goes on and on. Sure, these characters are (somewhat) interesting, but they don't make for good characters to have when the key plot line is that Heaven is a scam. Even if that fact is true, none of them were ever going to get there in the first place and this is something we also se in every single background sinner shown in Hell too. They were never close to getting there, so why would they or we care that Heaven is bad when all sinners are shown to be horrific people who are at best in the dark grey area of morality.

If you look at it from the "angel's are unfairly killing sinners" route, it still doesn't work. If the angels are killing them, what makes it different then the sinner on sinner violence that hell is full off? Why is them dying by angels this bad thing when they are just as likely if not 10x times more likely to get knifed in the back by other sinners in hell the other 364 days, especially when everyone here apparently is just as horrible as the next person. You cannot condemn the angels for killing demons and then make a joke of out sinners killing each other and never show sinners who doesn't want to kill people. Life either matters or it doesn't and when the main cast doesn't even show a care for life (outside of Charlie's who's entire flaw is her naivety), why should the audience.

On top of that, Vivzie's whole overpopulation aspect and the Heaven plot line would connect better if she actually had people like those I mentioned above, people who stole to survive but got tossed out cause stealing is technically wrong, people who killed another to protect someone else but were still sent to hell because even though they saved that person's life that person wasn't supposed to be saved, people who passively engaged in sins but never really did anything harmful under them. This would add into how Hell is so overpopulated and highlight why its so important that Heaven is evil/ why Charlie's plan isn't just a naive pathetic fever dream.

In the end, Vivzie should have never made Heaven the central plot of this show nor tried to assign this blatant good vs evil to that conflict. Neither her characters nor her writing choices are able to respond to this conflict in a way that will end or even tell the story in a satisfactory manner.

#anti hazbin hotel #hazbin hotel critical #vivziepop critical #spindlehorse critical #spindlehorse criticism #also I am not just talking out my ass for this #I had/have this same problem in one of my original works #where I had to make the relationship between Heaven and God and cambion a lot more complex then just oh this side bad this side good #and thats what you have to do as a fucking writer is ask the hard question and be ready to scrap characters and ideas to answer them #When you deal with human characters nothing is black vs white and the minute you claim it is #you have failed

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I am really getting tired of fans responding with “everyone responds to trauma differently” to dismiss criticism Viv gets for how she portrays abuse and SA in her shows. Yes, everyone does respond to trauma differently, that doesn’t mean there’s not a right and wrong way to portray it in media. As a writer you can always improve your stuff and make it better than what it is now, there’s nothing stopping Viv from looking to improve. Feedback from others (especially from people who have been abused and/or SA’d) is important.

If Vivziepop was a normal person who didn’t see critique as a personal attack on her, she could actually use what people over the internet are telling her as a larger scope so she gets a better perspective of how other people feel, that way she can emotionally reach to multiple audiences in her work, instead of picking sides, dismissing and demonizing anyone who disagrees with her and assuming what she’s crafted is perfect with zero flaws.

Her major problem with how she portrays abuse as a whole is that she can’t make up her mind on what’s bad and what isn’t. In Helluva Boss, Blitz verbally abusing his employees is funny, but Stella verbally abusing Stolas is bad. Sexual harassment from Blitz, Stolas and Angel Dust are funny, but from Val it’s bad. Loona abusing Blitz is funny, but Stella abusing Stolas, Valentino abusing Angel, and Crimson abusing Moxxie is bad.

Then you watch livestreams of her talking about Stolitz and Huskerdust, and it really feels like she can’t tell the difference between genuine love and blatant sexual harassment, cause she talks as if the couples are lovey dovey when in reality they’re not. Then she has the issue of not reading the room, at times she can’t let a serious scene happen without cracking a joke or just letting the scene breathe. Moxxie’s abuse isn’t taken with the full respect it deserves, after he’s hit we cut to a dildo joke, then go from that to a sexual harassment song we’re supposed to find funny. Then the writers can’t even let him cry without a joke about Blitz and Chaz being loud during sex. This is the same woman who prides herself in how she wrote Angel Dust, an SA victim.

She comes off as an excruciatingly insensitive writer who can’t make up her mind wether she finds SA hot, or abuse funny or not. People genuinely look up to her, but she’d rather argue with people on Instagram/twitter who find her work dense/uncomfortable. She’s not even trying to make an effort in her writing cause she’s convinced it’s perfect, and it’s just wrong, especially to silence those who want to speak up about how she dealt with a serious topic, topics that deserve care and respect, not just “haha sex”.

#vivziepop critical #spindlehorse critical #Vivzie is the queen of hiding behind communities and variation in them to avoid rightful criticism. #you hit the nail on the head here #Her wavering in what topics are funny or not funny cause so many problems in the tones of her story #Like when people bring up how HB and HH have tone problems #its not cause they don't find them funny; its cause if you take serious issues and makes jokes out of them then treat them seriously #later on in the series you're going to look stupid and like a bad writer cause the audience notices those things #That's just basic writing knowledge. Unless it's a chekhov's gun situation

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For everyone wanting to make their OC in a relationship with Alastor and actually respect his identity as an AroAce person (something Viv refuses to do still), make them be in a QPR.

It not only respects his identity and was termed by aro and ace people, but it also is super underutilized in media and would be great to see.

#vivziepop critical #hazbin hotel critical #alastor the radio demon #respect aroace people #he is aro ace and Viv choosing to ignore that for “shippers” is still fucked up and doesn't save yall from removing his aro title #If i ever write for him its going to be QPR only and I don't take crit for it. #i am not joking #I judge the hell out of people who put him “a canon sex-replused ace” in sexual situations #like you wouldn't ship a lesbain with a man #why the hell are you putting an ace person who does not like sex at all and has a strong reaction of dislike in sexual situations. #it just shows how some people view ace people and don't really respect their identity #alastor hazbin hotel

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Never thought that I'd ever say this, but Helluva Boss with every flaw and fuckup is one thousand times better than Hazbin Hotel even when you compare it with the worst Helluva Boss episodes.

From designs, music, characters, plot premise, and especially in voice acting, Helluva Boss is better than Hazbin, and I feel bad for everyone that was waiting out for this show to happen.

#helluva boss critical #hazbin hotel critical #anti hazbin hotel #helluva boss criticism #spindlehorse critical #vivziepop critical #Hazbin hotel just feels like a failed disney twist on an adult show #The constant singing is irritating and for Viv to get rid of the best VAs to get singers only for the songs to suck #its just pathetic tbh

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ᗯι𝜏ԋ Ɛʋҽɾყ Ɲҽցα𝜏ιʋҽട, ㆜ԋҽɾҽ 𝓐ɾҽ Sσ𝓶ҽ Ƥσടι𝜏ιʋҽട... ♚

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So, because I'm in a bit of a shitty mood due to a whole lot of work I have to do before my break, and I don't feel like piling onto the already large list of what's wrong with the Helluva Boss series - and also, because everyone liked the Beelzebub list, I decided to do a quick list of my top five favorite songs from Helluva Boss. Despite the questionable writing, characters, world-building, creator, etc, the songs are actually truly solid when they want to be, and for that, I'm willing to give praise.

𝟏.❞𝕂𝕝𝕠𝕨𝕟 𝔹𝕚𝕥𝕔𝕙❞ 𝐛𝐲, 𝐆𝐥𝐢𝐭𝐳 & 𝐆𝐥𝐚𝐦

❥ Putting aside my general love for these girls, however brief their appearances were in the episode, this song was just incredible to me! The dancing was smooth, the beat was heavily reminiscent to Kpop, which I just love anyway, the visuals were stunning, in addition to their overall designs, and I'm honestly just sucker for fish-based characters since they have a whole siren aesthetic going on. Speaking of, many people find these twins to be reminiscent to The Dazzlings, from EQ Girls, and that's just the cherry on top for me! The full version truly makes this even better and, overall, I think the song was brilliant in establishing the whole rebranding of Mammon and how these two pose great threats to Fizz, much like those badass singer villains in Saturday morning shows. You know, the one's everyone ends up simping for at some point in their childhood. Anyway, because of the new episode, this song managed to shoot its way to the top of my faves, knocking down my original fave in the process!

𝟐. ❞𝕄𝕠𝕟𝕤𝕥𝕖𝕣❜𝕤 𝔹𝕒𝕝𝕝❞𝐁𝐲, 𝐁𝐞𝐞𝐥𝐳𝐞𝐛𝐮𝐛

❥ This song walked, so "Cotton Candy" could trip and fall on the scalding hot pavement. Apologies if I sound dramatic, and you happen to like Cotton Candy, but the amount of disappointment I feel towards the fact that we didn't get this song is indescribable. Now of course, I understand WHY we couldn't (again, waste of time when someone could've just gotten Rochelle in the first place 😑) but I digress. Aside from the fact that a specific line in the song gives clear clarification of who the hell the flying fox is, it feels like the cool, degenerative (said affectionately) party girl song that I would've actually liked to hear.

❥ To me, it's reminiscent of "Cannibal" and "Die Young", and I feel like both themes generally tie into what we think of a Modern Beelzebub to be like. The beat, the shift in pace of the lyrics that brings out the fast party vibe, the fact that it felt like a real pop song that didn't take fifteen minutes to get through just to see the rest of the episode – all these are what made this song my former #1 favorite, now my #2. And the "non-binary specimen" line was a cool, quick inclusion to me.

𝟑. ❞𝕁𝕦𝕘𝕘𝕝𝕚𝕟𝕘 𝕀𝕫 ℂ𝕠𝕠𝕝❞ 𝐛𝐲, 𝐌𝐚𝐦𝐦𝐨𝐧

❥ I know this is technically too small to be an actual full song, but I still loved it regardless. It was really cool in its short runtime for the following reasons: the Tom Hardy's vocals (idk what it is, but something about Australian accents that just sounds satisfying, especially when singing), the praising of the Twins, and the satisfaction of seeing Fizz squirm a bit. Apologies to any of you who like Fizz. I don't hate him per se, but rather, I'm just bitter that we're loosing out on other character development because of him and Ozzy. And, I prefered Robo Fizz who was an unrelenting asshole and not another UWU boy that, imo, there are one too many of in Hell.

❥ Anyway, it was cool seeing more visuals of the Greed Ring stage. And seeing the spider visuals that are associated with Mammon. I understand if some people thought it was kinda tacky, but I personally think it could work if assessed the right way. (Hint: I'll be explaining more about this in later Greed Ring Headcanons and/or Mammon Headcanons.)

𝟒. ❞𝕍𝕒𝕔𝕒𝕪 𝕥𝕠 𝔹𝕠𝕟𝕖𝕥𝕠𝕨𝕟❞ 𝐛𝐲, 𝐕𝐞𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐢𝐤𝐚 𝐌𝐚𝐲𝐝𝐚𝐲

❥ Admittedly, I was a bit iffy on whether or not I should include this considering my feelings on Verosika. I don't hate her by any means considering, you know, it's Blitzø, but she has nothing going on for her and her one note personality just feels unfair to her considering what she had to deal with. That being said, I realized that I'm judging based on musical appeal and not entirely on character, so I said "fuck it" and put this as #4.

❥ While notably slower and softer than the other songs, I enjoyed it after revisiting it. The pink aesthetic and visuals were just gorgeous to me.

❥ It's slow, playful, and it reminds me a lot of Doja Cat and her songs, and I really loved that. Above all else, it was soothing and nice, and I feel like it was wasted on the Spring Break episode though as, while the episode introduced it a bit more worldbuilding, it felt like a whole load of nothing considering it all happened in one place and that same worldbuilding went out the window almost immediately. Still love the song though. Honestly, if there was a musical battle between Verosika and the Twins, I'd struggle to pick a winner.

𝟓. ❞ℍ𝕠𝕦𝕤𝕖 𝕠𝕗 𝔸𝕤𝕞𝕠𝕕𝕖𝕦𝕤❞ 𝐛𝐲, 𝐀𝐬𝐦𝐨𝐝𝐞𝐮𝐬 & 𝐅𝐢𝐳𝐳

❥ While my opinion of Asmodeus has wavered lately, his debut song was incredible! I loved the deep vocals and jazzy tunes used in the song, and I didn't completely mind the bits with Fizz in it given all that's happened. Above all else, I adored how they called out Stolas publically in the episode. Shame it couldn't stay that way. Seriously though, as sexy as the man's voice is his design just doesn't fit that. But, yeah, that's my opinion.

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Anyway, yeah, that was my list. Let me know what y'all think and whether or not you agree with my choices. If any, do you have a favorite song in Helluva Boss? Or a least favorite? Let me know. ✌🏾

#helluva boss critical reblog #glitz and glam #Always gotta respect fellow glitz and glam fans #Also why is Monster Ball so much better than Cotton Candy like #not only in theme but meaning and showing the sin of Gluttony #it would have been better for the episode then cotton candy tbh #Also Slowed and revebed Klown Bitch is the best thing ever and I love it so much; it makes me want to write whenever I hear it #rave speaks

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Can we just appreciate how much of a :3 Glitz and Glam are?

#glitz and glam #they are simply little guys and I love them #they are so cute and I wish there were more scenes of them #They just :3 but with teeth

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To anyone that's recently following or going to follow me, this is a pro-Palestine blog and that will never change. I didn't think I'd need to do this here, but an individual on helluva boss criticism tags reminded me that not all people are against genocide, so this is your only warning.

#Rave speaks #I am not joking #I will block without hesitation #i do not care #nor am I going to listen to why Israel is apparently the victim #Fics will be coming soon #but I don't want Pro-Israel people reading my content or thinking I like them

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Octavia Is Sidelined So Much In Favor Of Stolitz

Despite being used as an example of how Stolas is really a good person and father, I do notice overtime her importance in the series has dwindled. Seriously, despite how the narrative wants us to think she is the treasured jewel of his life the execution would have you say that her father is more distracted by his boy toy due to how Vivziepoop has overemphasized the Stolitz ship.

Take for example is "Seeing Stars" where he neglects his daughter and breaks his promise to see the event he promised years ago, because he's so wrapped up in his divorce and even goes to insult her mother in front of her (even though he's said in the past he's tried to shield his daughter from the ugly parts of his and Stella's relationship). However, now that he's divorcing he doesn't hesitate to be as ugly with Stella as possible which shows how really good of a father he is. Also when she goes missing despite saying that Blitzo's dick isn't enough to quell Stolas's anger when it's his daughter is involved... well it actually goes like that, because both Blitzo and Stolas can't help but flirt and be flustered around each other this whole episode. Instead of focusing on his daughter, he again is on Blitzo's dick and even worse his daughter has to forgive him for neglecting her.

Most egregious one of the them is at the end of "Western Energy" where we have the emphasis on how this affects Stolas and Blitzo's relationships especially those texts talking about their fall about Ozzie's. However, we never get focus on how Octavia felt after her father fucking almost bit the dust, because in the next episode that Stolas is in he's okay and again you would think he would be injured a bit more to show how serious Striker is. But nope due to Vivziepoop remembering he's a powerful demon, he recovers in a day and we don't see Octavia at least be escorted to the hospital to see him because again Octavia is only there when she's a tool to make him look better and not her own character.

And now we get to the music video of "Just Look My Way" where Octavia's mentions in it are scrubbed in favor of Blitzo which again shows how the narrative is favoring his boy toy over his own fucking daughter who is supposed to be the center of his world and not this person he's given up so much for. Seriously, it's why if Octavia appears again I will not take the narrative seriously because we know that despite all claims that her father will get distracted from being a parent and ogle over Blitzo because he's a selfish pos and yet Octavia will be the one who has to learn to tolerate his bs because he's got the author's favoritism.

I really at the first thought that Stolas relationship with his daughter was sweet, but then I realize like so many else it really lost it's potential once you realize that Octavia is just a prop to artificially make it seem like Stolas is a good father when in actuality he's selfishly putting her needs above hers in a situation he caused. And it's a result of the fact that the writers are just using her as a writing tool and not a full character. She isn't needed until it affects Stolas and even then the Stolitz ship zaps everything around it so that any attention that Octavia is taken away. In a way, Octavia's fears were justified her father would run off and leave her because the writers are.

#helluva reblog #you hit the nail on the head here #helluva boss critical #This is the biggest problem I have with Octavia and Stolas is that Octavia so obviously exist as a way to prove Stolas is a good person #And to show how bad his life was with Stella. Shes not her own character or person outside of that #and so much of the fanbase acts like she would love blitzo when no she wouldn't. This is the man that caused her parents divorce #and on top of that who her father keeps leaving her behind for. Blitzo is the center of Stolas's universe according to Vivzie #but that is not okay when you have a child who depends on you #Stolas should put Octavia first but he doesn't and to ignore how bad that makes him look Vivzie just never has her comment on it #Loving someone isn't enough for parenthood #you have to care for them to #and Stolas isn't doing the second part at all.

[poisonheiress]

Since there are no Glitz and Glam head canons or reader inserts yet, I've decided to make my own and share them with you. These are romantic in nature and reader focused so be prepared for that.

Warning: Some head canons suggest a shared S/O while others are for a specific sister.

◆ To begin, I believe that Glitz and Glam are rather jealous lovers, regardless if the partner is shared or not. The jealousy spawns from their connection to Envy and their hellborne status. Low born demons are used to fighting for everything they have, and even with the social boost from their position as Mammon's new figures, Glitz and Glam can only go so far. Adding in their natural leaning for Envy due their birth in the 6th ring, jealousy can come on quick and heavy. As a result, Glitz and Glam worry about their partner's focus falling away from them especially in public, always trying to bring their attention back to them at all costs. While their jealousy normally doesn't extend to the other sister, a shared partner can cause a few spats between the sisters every now and again.

◆ While the Glam sisters are as harsh as Envy demons come, that same bite and vitriol is never extended to their partners even in earlier stages of their relationships. They may keep the same snark in teasing their partner, but they will never insult or degrade their partners. This rule extends to those outside the relationship too. Neither sister responds well to some no-name or paparazzi looking down on their partner as a joke or otherwise. After all, demons aren't kind beings, especially those who spent the beginning of their lives crawling out of the Envy ring's Abyss.

◆ Speaking of rank, Glitz and Glam would definitely spend massive amounts of money on their s/o once they become Mammon’s new figures. While they obviously aren’t getting as big of a cut as they should, it’s much better than what their payments used to be, and as part of their life, their wealth extends to you too. From new clothing and jewelry to elaborate dates, they relish in spoiling their partners as long as they are the only ones doing it.

◆ Their personal life with their partner is never going to be publicized for people’s entertainment if Glitz or Glam have a say in it. They made their peace with the sexualization and objectification that comes with surviving in Hell show business a long time ago, and they don’t want their partner to ever experience the same fate. Attempting to break into their partner’s home or extort their partner either ends in a new corpse for the cleaners or a one way trip to Sloth’s hospitals. Because of this, I don’t see them dating another performer especially one under Mammon’s domain. Neither will risk their one freedom in hell becoming Greed’s newest commodity no matter how much they care about the other person.

◆ For every outfit the Glam sisters buy you, they will steal some of your wardrobe in return. No matter how big or small your clothes are on them, they’ll find a way to make it work. It gets to the point where half your wardrobe has found itself way into their shared closet. Glitz favors hoodies and sweaters, especially cropped ones while Glam prefers taking jackets and shirts. Wearing your lover's clothing is seen as a passive form of marking in Hell, even more so if the clothing has their scent on it, and Glitz and Glam take full advantage of that.

◆ A lot of dates for you on both sides would occur in the Envy ring, specifically in its seas. Since a lot of Glitz and Glam’s early life spent constantly moving about the Abyssal zones, they know all the best spots and love sharing that part of their life with their partners. They also love these dates because it's a lot easier to run from paparazzi underwater and disappear into the depths of the sea. Glitz and Glam also like to bring back souvenirs from their visits to the Envy Ring like pieces of coral and pearls. Glitz has even tried to bring a devil-fish back over the border once, but customs wasn’t found of that idea. Sure, they could bring back other commercial goods, but when it come to Envy, they prefer giving their partners something they found or killed with their own hands, not something that can be bought anywhere else.

◆ Speaking of dates, Glitz and Glam do vary in their preferred activities. Glitz prefers more high stakes, wild kinds of dates like hell’s version of bungee jumping or sky diving. She’ll even take you to swim through the riptides if you want. Glam, on the other hand, prefers more lowkey events like hunting or adventuring into deep sea caves where you two would have more alone time. Of course, they enjoy the traditional dinner dates and events, but they’ll always prefer something exiting with you alone.

◆ Last but not least, physical affection. Neither sister goes beyond hand holding or a few hidden make-outs in public. If they're feeling bold, they may even pull you onto their lap or sit on your lap. At home, they are a lot more hands on. Being Glam’s partner means that she’d gonna be wrapped around you like a second skin. She likes to have her hands on you at all times if possible. Cuddling with her is similar to being a straight jacket with the grip she has. It gets to the point where she’d rather pick you up to move then let you move around at all. On the plus side, cuddling with her means gossiping for hours straight on anyone and everyone, and her connection to stardom means that she's never out of thing to talk about.

◆ While Glitz likes affection just as much as her sister, she doesn't need to be touching her partner all the time, choosing to stay and sit close to you to fill her urge in public. Cuddling wise, I think Glitz is the kind of partner who lays on top of you, putting all her weight on you, and the only way to get her off is to move her yourself. With you captive under her, she will tell every bad joke her sister keeps from entering their act and she won't stop until you laugh. Glitz also loves her sticking her cold, webbed hands under your shirt to warm them up, laughing like a banshee when you jump at the touch.

◆ In the end, the Glam sisters fall slow but love hard. They may have each other, but they crave another person to share their lives with that will see them as something more then Greed's newest product. You have to hang on to what makes you happy in hell, and they'll cling to you till the end of their lives if you let them.

#helluva boss glitz and glam #helluva boss #helluva boss x reader #glitz and glam x reader #glitz and glam x gn reader #requests are open #but I'd rather suggestions over exact requests if that makes sense #Sorry if these aren't the best #I had to make due with my own canon since we know so little about them #More headcanons about glitz and glam will come soon but I need more time to get them all settled #gender neutral reader #I am in a very sapphic mood for them #If this goes well #Ill do more stand alone stuff with them #I have an idea for helping them with their stage makeup so #helluva boss season 2 #helluva boss fanfiction

[poisonheiress]

If I theoretically wrote Glitz and Glam Romance headcanons, would anyone on this hellsite read it. I may toss in my own personal headcanons for them as well.

#helluva boss x reader #helluva boss #helluva glitz and glam #helluva boss glitz and glam #helluva boss season 2 #helluva boss glitz #helluva boss glam #Please tell me #i have too many ideas #a small break from my normal criticism while I work on something longer

[poisonheiress]

Vivziepop's ability to decay any women and fem-aligned characters she creates has always haunted Helluva Boss, and as a result, limits them to being one dimensional characters that fall into a "with them or against them" mentality when it comes to her male characters; they only exists to prop up other (male) characters or to serve as morally bankrupt villains.

From Verosika to Stella to Loona and Millie, this trend is clear from the beginning of the show and likely will follow it to the end. However, for this post I will discuss the recent victims of this trend: the lovely Glitz and Glam.

To be honest, I adore Glitz and Glam (to the point of writing fan fiction for them) and they have become my favorite characters in the entire show so this discussion will show some bias towards them. While some may say its too early for this call as they will be seen again, but from what I've seen on twitter from fans and even creators of their song alike, I do not have the hope this will occur.

From the beginning, Glitz and Glam are looked down on for their desire to win and for doing anything they can to get that position. When confronted with Fizz's kind words of support, they look down on him and further emphasize how they are going to win against him even gaining the title of "snatches" and "sluts" by Blitzo. From this moment forward, its clear the narrative doesn't want us to look kindly upon the sisters. After all, they are being "bitches" to Fizzarolli and competing against him in a manner that pushes him further and further into a breakdown. The fact that Fizz's relationship with Mammon and self esteem issues are not their fault is shown as irrelevant to both the audience and their creators.

This isn't made better by their song writers' commentary on twitter on how the glam sisters are perverting the true nature of clowning and that their song shows how they are simply wanting to get Mammon's attention by feeding into the financial and sexual exploitation (even saying that they want this to happen). This commentary solidifies the idea that they are not someone we should root for especially since they are allying themselves with Mammon, a horrific, abusive asshole.

While I expect this level of dismissal and honestly misogynistic writing from Helluva boss, I can't help but be extremely agitated by it and the reason why was made clear recently: the narrative acts as if the Glam sisters are doing this for out of selfish desire alone, as if they are terrorizing Fizz for no good reason. But that's simply not true, and even Vivzie's canon supports me here.

The Glam sisters are hellborn demons, only one rank higher than the imps. This means that while they may be treated better, they still are not treated as full citizens like sinners are, and in a dog eat dog world like Hell, kindness is not something they can afford.

Getting this position with Mammon is a life changing deal, something Fizz is proof of. Yes, it is as exploitative as it is lucrative for the individual, but this is Hell (as Vivzie likes to claim) and opportunities like this are something many would die and kill for.

So at the end of the day, I cannot help but be confused why the narrative punishes and looks down on Glitz and Glam for taking some crumb of control back from the system and accepting their objectification with open arms as long as they are rightly compensated for it. Why does even their (albeit catchy) song look down on them for doing whatever it takes to survive in Hell? After all, they would be exploited anyway, right? It's what Hell lives on.

In a class system like Vivzie claims to have, the glam sisters are a prime example of the kind of oppressed vs oppressed the system creates, but instead of trying to understand them or even see them as morally complex, they are simply the slutty female antagonists who are corrupting the sanctity of hell clowns simply because they don't clown for the sake of clowning. Whatever complexity they could have, even if it is beneficial to the entirety of the show, is worthless compared to their narrative propping for Vivzie's favored characters. But it doesn't surprise me. After all, what else is a women is Helluva Boss good for if not to support the main male cast.

#helluva boss critical #helluva boss criticism #helluva boss glitz and glam #If there are no Glitz and Glam defenders left then I am dead #please ask me about my glitz and glam things #i will even write an x reader #I will write so many things just ask please #helluva boss season 2 #helluva boss #vivziepop criticism #vivziepop critical #fizzarolli

[poisonheiress]

I feel like more people need to talk about the fatphobia in Helluva Boss. Besides the"fat jokes aren't funny and are actually just assholish" conversations, making Mammon be fatphobic towards Fizz just doesn't have the same impact as Vivzie intended it to have or really an impact at all when you look back at all the fat jokes towards Moxie that Luna and Blitzo have made.

Some may argue that Luna and Blitzo were joking, but while Blitz's one line may fall under that argument, Luna's doesn't. From tone, to when/where the joke was said, to Moxie's reaction, Luna makes those comments or "jokes" to be mean to Moxie, and does not feel sorry for what she did. While this does solidify Luna's character and the idea that no joke is off limits for Vivzie so to speak, it also unintentionally lays the ground work that fatphobia is fine both in the show and in hell. While this agrees with the "its hell" argument that Vivzie always pulls out to defend her questionable character decisions, it doesn't work with the audience taking Mammon's comment towards Fizz as something we should actually care about.

You can't make fat jokes towards other characters and at the same time, tell the audience that fatphobia is bad simply because its a villain that's doing it especially in Hell where most moralities fall under morally grey. It's like having those at I.M.P critique someone for being a mercenary and killing humans; it doesn't work.

It's horrible writing and its makes the creators and the characters themselves hypocrites . Blitzo being a hypocrite could work cause he is piles of messed up, but the show nor its creator show it as that. Instead, they show it as a moment that helps solidify to Blitzo how bad Mammon is both for Fiz and the general public. In the end, Vivzie shot herself in the foot again and its now becoming more clear due to just how many times shes done it.

Of course, there is also the added issues of one of the few fat characters (if the only one) Vivzie shows being the one to be fatphobic while also being depicted with so many fatphobic media stereotypes, but that's for another post.

#helluva boss critical #helluva boss mammon #vivziepop critical #helluva boss criticism #tw fatphobia #vivziepop criticism #ph speaks #helluva boss #helluva boss blitzo #helluva boss season 2