The difference between SJ apologists and LBH's fans is that we know how fucked up Shen Jiu was, and we recognize his misdeeds, meanwhile the others don't.
Back in those ancient times, corporeal punishments were the norm. It was something teachers were expected to deliver. But you don't see us SJ stans using that argument to excuse the abuse he inflicted on LBH.
Critical thinking and objective analysis of human behavior along with historical context seems to be a skill many in the svsss fandom lack.
Not long ago I've seen a post saying that they understand LBH going bat-shit crazy because one guy (Shen Jiu) rejected him, and that they would have done the same.
Like what the fuck--???
By your logic, can we excuse serial killers going on a rampage because the person they liked refused them?
Would you be OK with a crazy bastard taking it out on someone you cherish because of such stupid reason???
What the fuck is wrong with people?
It's not that hard to acknowledge the fucked up side of your favorite character.
Historically speaking, which I am quite passionated about, Shen Jiu as a teacher was entitled to do with his disciples however he pleased.
Liu Qingge beat up (still does btw) his students on a regular basis, but so far I haven't seen one comment condemning Liu Qingge for his actions, saying that this is how Bai Zhan functioned. Instead he is painted as this righteous cultivator who does no wrong, in both Canon and fanfiction.
The movie The Last Witch Hunter is low key gorgeous. Every scene is somewhere tastefully rich and beautiful. The color pallets are fantastic. Lots of blues and greens and glowing effects. It has some of my favorite representation of magic. And then the other half is rot and overgrowth and ash and smouldering fire.
I recently came out to my mother's side of the family who are majority conservative christians and it went much better than I expected. Like, they were weirdly supportive. I only got one comment insinuating that I might possibly be going to hell but it came from my aunt and she's dying soon anyway so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Anyway, I'm telling them how shocked I am and that I honestly thought that they'd have more of a problem with it when my grandma is like "Well you know we've been through this before with your uncle Nicky" and I'm like "what" and so it turns out that my uncle Nick was born a Natalie, came out as a boy at 19, and my great grandma proceeded to pay for his top surgery and hormone therapy. In 1974. And I just had to process for a bit because my entire life no one has referred to him as anything other than he/him and his chosen name. I ask why no one ever thought to mention this and they're just like "tbh we forgot. It's been so long that he's been a man" This man is married. He has a wife and three kids. I ask my relatives how they went about having kids, whether through adoption or sperm donor or what and none of them know. Apparently he just told everyone that they were gonna be parents and then one day showed up at my grandma's house with a baby. No questions were asked. Just. He and his wife had a baby now and that was that. Three times. Weeks later when I finally talk to my aunt Sarah (Nick's wife) all she tells me is that neither of them have ever been pregnant and, I quote, "sometimes you just come into children". She phrased it like people use the phrase "come into money". Like children are something that just happens to you. I ask my relatives if any of them had a problem with Nick being trans at the time, saying I'd understand if they had negative feelings about it, as it was the 1970s after all. They were like "nope" and i was just like "you didn't think anything of it?" And my grandfather was like "these things happen" while the other adults nodded sagely. So I guess the moral here is that if my conservative christian relatives could accept my uncle as trans in the 1970s then there really isn't any excuse for anyone. And also my family needs to ask more questions because I'm fairly sure my aunt and uncle stole their kids.
I’m laughing my ass off at that last sentence- But I’m so glad your coming out went well! That’s one heck of a way to find out you have LGBT relatives.