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rifari2037 · 23 hours

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I found this thread on Twitter and it's so refreshing to know that Zutara fandom actually has strong allies.

Zuko - (my captain) Dante Basco

Katara - Mae Whitman

Sokka - Jack de Sena

Toph - Michaela Jill Murphy

Azula - Grey DeLisle

Uncle Iroh - Greg Baldwin

(even) Cabbage Man - James Sie

It's funny because this fact made me suddenly create a headcanon :

Of course Zuko and Katara shipping themselves, they fell in love with each other.

Then almost all the members of the Gaang except Aang (we don't know for sure about Suki) also ship Zutara because they know Zuko and Katara are secretly making out, while Aang denies it because well, you know why…

Sokka as Katara's brother approve their relationship!

Then Uncle Iroh, he must've ship Zutara since stubborn Zuko asked Katara to help him defeat Azula.

Uncle Iroh as father figure for Zuko definitely approve their relationship!

Azula shipped Zutara? She must've known that Katara meant a lot to Zuko, otherwise why would she direct the lightning at her? She know that either Katara would lose or Zuko would sacrifice himself for her.

I can say, that's the way Azula as Zuko's sister approve their relationship!

And the Cabbage Man. This time I didn't expect it. Maybe he really is a Zutara shipper. Maybe he was the one who told the Ember Island player director that the two of them had a special relationship? (I'm making things up this time) 😂😂

Okay, back to Zutara fandom who has strong allies from the ATLA writers too.

John O'Brian (the one who confirming that they talked about Zutara endgame in writing room)

Joshua Hamilton (the one who fight alongside John O'Brian to make Zutara endgame)

I'm sure the list won't end there

I also wont forget that Zutara fandom has great writers and artists with fanarts, fanfics, video edits, meta and analysis, etc., which makes Zutara never boring. Thanks to y'all 💙❤️

They did get canon, but I can still enjoy the victory!

#zutara #pro zutara #anti anti zutara #zuko and katara #zuko x katara #anti kataang #anti bryke #zutara was robbed

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starlight-bread-blog · 1 day

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My Interpetation of The Southern Raiders: Part 1 – A\ang

Warning: The views expressed in this analysis will be very critical of Aang. If you aren't critical of him in this episode, you aren't going to enjoy this post. This is your chance to leave. I probably won't have a debate for personal reasons.

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The Southern Raiders is probably one of the most discussed episodes in the fandom. Everyone knows Zuko Alone is great, but the discussion surrounding this episode is a war zone. In this essay I will try to answer every question posed in the discourse. This is part 1 out of three. In this part, I will discuss A\ang. I believe that understanding both Zuko and Aang's decisions in this episode will give us great insight into Katara's. Because the this episode is hers.

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1. Is Aang's philosophy of forgiveness valid?

(1) "Revenge is like a two-headed rat viper. While you watch your enemy go down, you're being poisoned yourself".

(2) "You do have a choice: forgiveness". // "It's easy to do nothing, but it's hard to forgive". // "Forgiveness is the first step you have to take to begin healing".

This philosophy is indeed morally sound. Revenge comes from rage, a negative emotion that causes harm in the long run. Forgiveness is letting go of that rage, which is healing. I cannot write a full thesis, this essay is not about that. But on paper, I do agree with A\ang. He's right to say that letting go of rage is a better alternative than getting consumed by it. (However, his philosophy might not help some).

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2. Was A\ang being insensitive when talking to Katara?

First I must reiterate, a lot of people frame the conflict of the episode as one regarding the ethics of murder. In my interpretation, it is not. During this episode Katara was in a deeply emotional place. Her rage stemmed from intense grief and those around her should treat her as a mourner - with great sensitivity.

Now, was Aang being this sensitive with Katara? Well, in my opinion, very much so.

Imagine a scenario where A\ang just happens to meet Haru, and he's about to go on a quest to find revenge on who imprisoned his father. He tries to help him with the following sentences:

(1) Um ... and what exactly do you think this will accomplish?

(2) Wait! Stop! I do understand. You're feeling unbelievable pain and rage. How do you think I felt about the sandbenders when they stole Appa? How do you think I felt about the Fire Nation when I found out what happened to my people?

(3) I don't think so. I think it's about getting revenge.

(4) Haru, you sound like Jet.

(5) The monks used to say that revenge is like a two-headed rat viper. While you watch your enemy go down, you're being poisoned yourself.

(6) Haru, you do have a choice: forgiveness.

(7) No, it's not. It's easy to do nothing, but it's hard to forgive.

(8) You did the right thing. Forgiveness is the first step you have to take to begin healing.

Everything makes sense, right? The pieces fit.He just talks about his cultura\personal values, nothing about what Katara needs at the moment. He could have had this exact conversation with Haru without changing a thing.

Therefore his lines are impersonal and thus preachy. In this conversation he doesn’t show signs of trying to convince Katara not to end her mother’s killer because she is, fundamentally, a good person and couldn’t live having committed murder. He shows signs of trying to make her obey his cultural ethos. This is highly insensitive. Katara was in a very emotional place, filled with rage and grief. And his response was, intentionally or not, to impose his own cultural principles onto her.

But his lines weren’t insensitive just because they were preachy, some of them were judgmental and even harsh. When A\ang is first confronted with Katara’s intentions, he says:

A\ang: Um ... and what exactly do you think this will accomplish?

You can tell from his tone and how the rest of the conversation plays out that he does know what Katara thinks this will accomplish. He asks the question as a form of disapproval - that he thinks that going after Yon Rha won’t accomplish anything. He’s not being genuine, he’s casting judgment on her. He’s almost looking down on her and Zuko, looking down from a moral high ground and sarcastically interrogating the two. Another line that sticks out is

A\ang: Katara, you sound like Jet.

He says she sounds like the man who wanted to flood an entire village full of innocent civilians. He’s insulting her, and greatly so, all the while wanting to keep a moral high ground. This is incredibly rude and condescending.

In the next scene, right after the intense argument concludes, it appears as though A\ang comes around to the journey Katara was about to go through.

A\ang: I wasn't planning to. This is a journey you need to take. You need to face this man.But when you do, please don't choose revenge. Let your anger out, and then let it go. Forgive him.

While he’s still discouraging Katara, it’s not outright condescending. But it’s as clear as day that he’d just preferred if she didn’t go on the journey at all. When he sees Zuko and Katara taking Appa to find Yon Rha, he says:

A\ang: So you were just gonna take Appa anyway?

Clearly disapproving of Katara. He doesn’t want her to go on the journey to find inner peace, he wants her to forgive the man who killed her mother right here and right now. He couldn’t change her mind on the subject, so he’ll advise her the next best thing. It is worth noting that in the beginning, before he advises her, he cracks a joke.

A\ang: It's okay, because I forgive you. [Pauses.] That give you any ideas?

Overall, A\ang’s behavior is unsympathetic and callous.Instead of placing his focus on Katara’s wellbeing, he preaches about Air Nomad teachings and goes as far as insulting her. Even when he comes around, it’s not because he realized his mistakes, it’s because he knew he couldn’t change her mind. And then he makes a humorous remark while giving him his supposed new found advice. The answer is: Yes. Aang was very insensitive when talking to Katara.

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3. Did A\ang know what Katara needed?

I don’t think he did. A\ang thought Katara needed to forgive Yon Rha, and as we previously established, without going after him. But even if we look at his second advice, she still doesn’t follow it.

A\ang: This is a journey you need to take. You need to face this man. [Katara situates herself on Appa's head.] But when you do, please don't choose revenge. Let your anger out, and then let it go. Forgive him.

Katara explicitly didn’t forgive Yon Rha, and yet the whole point of the ending is that she’s in a better place now. No matter what Zuko says, A\ang didn’t know what Katara needed. And considering that his lines in the episode were as impersonal as they were, it isn’t a surprise.

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In conclusion, A\ang’s behavior in The Southern Raiders is questionable at best. He might have had pure intentions, and had a good message, but the way he put out the message was degrading and preachy. And in the end, he didn’t know what was the right thing for Katara.

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azure-arsonist · 1 month

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I'm so sorry but zutara just serves more cunt than k@taang

#zutara #pro zutara #zutara supremacy #anti kataang #zutara was robbed #katara of the southern water tribe #prince zuko

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jadebeesworld · 30 days

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Things I need to do:

1. Go to therapy

2. Do my laundry

3. Secretarial work

Things I want to do:

1. Write a Zutara Modern AU fic

#zutara #zuko and katara #zutara was robbed #pro zutara #zuko x katara

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ekwolfwriter-blog · 5 months

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Oh the universe is beautiful.

Feeling a bit devilish, but I wanted to hint at a possible story idea that has been taking hold of my mind. Especial for those that know what I am talking about, I am sure you will agree, it is deliciously angsty.

Picture this: Katara was in the fire palace on the day of the coronation. Imagine her in a fire nation style robe in a shade of blue for her people. She is happy as she has been able to help Prince Zuko heal to the point where he can become Fire Lord now. And he is about to ask her a very important question when it is done.

Katara had it all.

Only when she saw her beloved Fire Lord to be, her voice was stilled. She could not call for him or at least her voice did not seem to reach his ears. She thinks he might have when he turns but he sees past her. And instead of her voice, she hears Mai's voice. She is leaning against the rail and Katara is confused as to how she got there.

Or why Katara is suddenly a ghost to everyone around her.

And that is all for now. Stay tuned for another update.

#zutara #katara x zuko #zutara fanfiction #atla #animation #Animation errors make for glorious story telling #animators knew what they were doing #zutara forever #zutara was robbed #katara #zuko

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korielle-writiting-fanfics · 17 days

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being a black and queer zutara shipper is fun because one day it’s you’re shipping an oppressed x oppressor or you see yourself in katara and wanted zuko ( wrong i wanted to be both of them )

but either way the way fan artists get attacked on twitter is crazy cause what kat@@ng shippers mad over pixels and people preferring a set of pixels over the other

like get a job.

#zutara #red rambles #my post #zutara was robbed #zutara shippers #zuko #katara #black reader #black fanfic writer

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avidbroswer · 5 months

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Something wholesome?

#zutara #zuko #katara #atla #avatar the last airbender #my art #am I gonna be a zutara blog?#probably #I mean they’re just meant to be #we were robbed

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stardust948 · 8 months

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Are you telling me we could have gotten possible Zutara, Azula redemption arc, AND a backstory about Lu Ten's death being caused by Koh in Book 4?

But it was all canceled for that God-awful live action movie?!?!

#atla #atla book 4 #zutara #azula redemption #lu ten #koh #anti atla live action movie #anti live action movie #we were robbed

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kstarlitchaotics · 2 months

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Huh that cannot be a coincidence and yet...

#and people think the shippers #are delulu understand #when people say zutara was robbed #atla #avatar #zutara #zuko #katara #avatar the last airbender #the last airbender #avatar fandom

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themoonandocean-spirit · 2 years

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𝒁𝒖𝒌𝒐 𝑿 𝑲𝒂𝒕𝒂𝒓𝒂 | 𝔸𝕝𝕥𝕖𝕣 𝔼𝕘𝕠 ℙ𝕒𝕣𝕒𝕝𝕝𝕖𝕝

𝚃𝚑𝚎 𝙱𝚕𝚞𝚎 𝚂𝚙𝚒𝚛𝚒𝚝 𝚇 𝚃𝚑𝚎 𝙿𝚊𝚒𝚗𝚝𝚎𝚍 𝙻𝚊𝚍𝚢

#we were robbed of an episode of these two together #zutara #firebender #firebending #waterbending #the painted lady #the blue spirit #zuko #katara #avatar the last airbender #atla

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tiny-katara · 2 years

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Imigine shipping Zutara, the racist and offensive ship in the whole show. Out of any ship you piked Zutara. Zukka is right there nd so is Kataang. Both of the mhad such more devolopment ad cemistry. fuk u <3

anon, i'm worried you might need a beta for your asks. this is a disaster.

i really don't understand how zutara is racist but zukka isn't??? i like zukka just fine and you're more than welcome to go apeshit for it, but your argument really doesn't make any sense. my bestie @burst-of-iridescent has already discussed it here and her post is very thorough. i encourage you to read through it.

as for saying kata/ang had more chemistry/cemistry, i really have to ask what you were on. i suppose it is all up to interpretation, but the foundation of ka is that you don't know if katara has feelings for him or not. if there's chemistry between them, it should follow them and we should see a fairly linear change in development in their relationship, but we don't.

on top of that, i personally fail to see how a boy expecting the girl to fall for him simply bc he deserves her and is the hero. that's gross. it's a sexist trope and it genuinely makes me uncomfortable.

as far as zukka goes, i personally don't like as much but they're a fun pair. they didn't have any romantic chemistry in the show as far as i saw and a lot would have to be reworked to make them feel grounded within the show. zukka is a lovely ship, but it's a fanon ship. unfortunately, we weren't lucky enough to get that kind of representation within the show. zutara is technically a fanon ship as well. both have basis in canon, but are only alive because of fanon.

but good god anon you can't even spell an insult correctly. if you're going to send more unwarranted hate asks, at least have someone read through it. maybe they'll have enough common sense to tell you it's a very bizarre thing to waste your time on and that you should focus on actually making enjoyable zukka content. that's what i'd recommend<3

#anti kataang #zutara #pro zutara #im not adding a zukka tag of any kind #its not anti #its not pro #its just got zukka in it #i dont even hate it #its a fun ship #i do hate kataang tho #fuck kataang its sexist and katara was robbed #anti aang #just in case lol

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rifari2037 · 16 days

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Thank you for Fortnite and whoever posted this 'married Zutara life' first on Twitter. This is so loving (especially the last one) 💕 I'm screaming!!!

#pro zutara #zutara #anti anti zutara #zuko x katara #zuko and katara #fortnite zuko katara bundle #atla zutara #zutara married life #zutara was robbed

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starlight-bread-blog · 2 months

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