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nightswithkookmin · 3 years

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A quick lesson on ships

Because why not??😌

No but seriously, bare with me, I'm trying to answer your questions. Sit if you have to. Hehe

Uban Dictionary defines shipping as this:

A term used to describe fan fictions that take previously created characters and put them as a pair. It usually refers to romantic relationships, but it can refer platonic [sic] ones as well. (Just think of “shipping” as short for “relationSHIP”.) 9 Apr 2015

Ships can be platonic or romantic or both.

There's fictional ships and non fictional ships too. You ship two people you want to be in a relationship or who already are in a relationship or who you suspect to be in a relationship- perhaps due to queer baiting, ship baiting, romance baiting etc.

In the shipping fandom, there are two sects of people. Those who are Proships those who are Antiships- antis are ironically considered part of the shipping community because for some reason they are always in shippers business💀

Antishippers are those who oppose a particular ship or shipping in general (more on that later.)

Proshippers are well- Pro ships.

Pro-Ship

A term mostly used in fandoms, but can stretch outside of this to include original characters. The core belief is that shipping two fictional characters, no matter if they are family, share ages gaps, considered to be unhealthy, or show blatant signs of being abusive or other generally unsavory behaviours, are valid in a fictional setting.

Pro-Shippers or "anti-antis" are also known as "rainbow meaties" and will use 🌈 + 🍖 emojis together often in their bio on twitter or other social media platforms- usually within fictional settings.

These shippers reinforce the idea fiction is separate from reality and shouldn't be confused with the other.

‘Anti’ is short for ‘anti-shipper’ or ‘anti-[ship]’.

Kindly read through this thread to get the gist of it.

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Shipping non-fictional individuals is a subset of Proshipping, in my opinion, known also as alternative shipping- as far as my knowledge on it goes.

As with fictional shipping, alt ships have their antis too. People who disagree with shipping real couples in a romantic way for whatever arbitrary moral reasons they have and who feel entitled to go out of their way to correct, stop, police and punish such shippers.

Then there are those who although may be pro real people shipping think they have the right to tell others how they should ship and to what extent they can ship.

Others too prefer to ship real people platonically because they view romantic shipping of real people as problematic.

So to answer your question on Anon's post- there is no such thing as a Proshipper who is also Anti shipping. Thats oxymoronic. Perhaps they might be platonic shippers who are anti romantic ships but not necessarily romantic shippers themselves.

I don't think there's anything wrong with preferring to ship platonically. It is when they assume by virtue of their false sense of moderacy that they are better than others that shit starts to get funny.

Those shippers are delusionally confused beings with a supremacist imperialist complex rooted in ignorance and absurdities.

I usually walk by those quietly. keep it pushing. Gotta mind my business somehow even though most times I just want to pull their hair and bite them and shit😭

I try to keep it classy.

Lord knows I try.

You are either pro ship or anti ship. There's no in between. Those shippers who are shippers but claim they are not are nothing but fraudulent, fake us, simps trying to bamboozle their way through life- pardon my Swahili.

There are a lot of anti shippers moonlighting as shippers in this fandom. It's fascinating.

Personally I think those people are either confused or their desires to appeal to other Anti shippers must have morphed their brains into ass dick hybrids.

Anti shippers in general are notorious gatekeepers, gaslighters, bigots, high key sanctimonious and often have a cis white westernized sense of morality and ethics through which they fliter others and expect everyone and everything to conform to.

They impose their values on others, their ethics on others, resort to manipulation, policing, intimidation and bullying to impose their will etc.

Within shipping, there are those who are Proshipping yet anti certain ships. Most Tuktukkers are anti Jikook. And assume anyone who isn't a tuktukker is equally anti Tae Kook and so go ahead and exhibit anti behaviours towards them.

Think of such groups of shippers as Proshippers with a preference for particular ships if you will.

There are Pro shippers who also feel some kind of way about Shipping real life people or alt shipping.

Here's further resource to help you understand what proshipping is

If you are intolerant with other shippers choice of ships or style of shipping and you traumatize them for it that's Anti shipping. Especially if you feel entitled and justified to traumatize others because you take a higher moral status over them.

You can be proship and not like how certain people, how they go about

Simply walk away, click off, mind your business. You are not the only adult in these streets and leave people to do what interests them.

I think for as long as I can remember, I've always been a proshipper and I ship both platonically and romantically, fictionally and alternatively💀

Some themes in fiction are a hard limit for me such as the R word, pedophilia, incest, child abuse- I just can never find the entertainment in those topics and will struggle through such themes.

But others believe it's just FICTION and those fictional characters aren't really dealing with the imaginary struggles we read about.

Yall do you sis.

I don't really know why people make a big deal of it or try to demonize the concept of shipping as if it were something strange or mysterious- just keep your moral values to yourself. I am not your mother's daughter. we were not raised in the same households.

Then again I think it all depends on the different cultures and social backgrounds we all come from and how entitled, supremacist or imperialist they are.

For Yoonmin, I shipped them romantically but didn't think they were a real couple at all. I just romanticized their interactions and found humor in it. At the back of my head I was expecting them each to one day find husbands or wives and go their merry ways and even harbored the thought they each could very much be in serious romantic relationships with others.

In similar ways, I shipped Minimoni and Vmin.

You can ship a pair romantically and not think at all that they are actually REAL.

A lot of jokers ship Jikook romantically and don't assume they are real. Just as a lot of people shipped say Elena and Stefan romantically even though Paul was married.

Some shipped Elena and Damon too due to their unscreen chemistry and even felt they could be a thing- that was before later it was revealed they had started dating in real life. Even that I was holding on to my Bonnie x Damon fantasies because Bonnie was my bias and I shipped her with everyone romantically- of course I didn't expect any of those ships to manifest into something because it was the character I was shipping not Kat herself. To this day I still love her onscreen chemistry and friendship with Damon and don't see how people could wish for it to be more than that😭

It was beautiful as is. Not everything should climax into sexual intercourse.

But if I felt at some point any of her ships had crossed into alternative ships I would have jumped on those and supported it whole heartedly.

If you assume a pair are a real couple and dating in real life that's alt shipping- a lot of alt shippers suspect a ship is real and that's why they ship them.

There is no such thing as platonic alt shipping.

And for me personally, because I believe Jikook are a real couple and have made that cross over I don't ship any of that pair romantically with other members anymore.

It's bizzare to me to ship someone I know has a partner romantically with anybody else- I make exceptions for Vmin of course💀

I know JK is side eyeing me but I don't care.

I want Tae to be happy too😭😭😭

Tae just wants his bestfriend and soulmate😭

It's too much😭😭😭😭😭😭

He stays shooting his shots🤣

Jimin Harem is real🤭

I must admit, I catch myself slipping on Vmin and Minimoni every now and then- old habits die hard and they don't make it easy 😫

But that don't mean I think Vmin is dating. THAT WOULD BE WILD.

Summary

Proshippers can be Platonic or Romantic shippers and you can ship a pair romantically and not assume they are real at all.

Anti shippers are just assholes trying to beat their values down people's throats.

Alt shippers don't ship their OTP with other players romantically.

I don't know what you mean by Jinkooker...

Do you ship Jinkook romantically or think they are real?? Sis...

Maybe you just ship them platonically or casually.

I ship all the ships platonically.

Especially all Jimin"s Tae's ships. I'd let my self flirt with the idea of romance every now and then.

JK's ships don't make sense to me as ships.

As nonplatonic ships I mean.

I'm fascinated each time I see a hardcore JK x any member ship besides Jikook swearing up and down JK is screwing Namjoon🤣🤣

I hope this helps??

GOLDY

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papal-babygirl · 6 years

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Day 3- Three French Hens

woah hey yall its wrestling ship time. this is the first time i’ve uploaded any of that so like, be gentle, i guess

“A six-hour layover?” Seth squinted at his phone in disbelief, his itinerary glaring back at him. Six hours, stuck in the Paris airport with all of his bags, nothing to do but hole up and have a terrible airport nap, courtesy of fluorescent lights and hoodies stuffed around his neck to act as a terrible pillow.

“That’s definitely not that bad, babe.” Finn’s head dangled off their shared bed as he popped gummy bears into his mouth, resisting the urge to offer one up to his dour looking boyfriend. Haribo, unfortunately, does not heal all wounds.

“Ok, yeah, I’ve definitely dealt with worse, but I’m gonna be stuck in Paris, with you and no way to enjoy it! During the damn Christmas season!” Seth dropped his phone in his lap and stuck his hands up indignantly, scowling a bit. Finn laid the bag of gummy bears on his chest and reached up to cup Seth’s cheek.

“There will be other Christmas seasons. And other trips to Paris. And perhaps even other Christmas trips to Paris.” He soothed his thumb over Seth’s cheek, watching patiently and lovingly as Seth leaned into the touch.

“I know how time works, I just.. Ugh, I don’t wanna be all old and shitty when we get to go, I wanna be there now.” It was petulant, whiny, and all together too endearing for the overgrown child Seth was acting. Finn sometimes had no idea how he stood this man, but here he was, sitting up and cradling his face for a soft kiss.

“Screw the flight. Where are we headed that we can’t drive?” There was a mischievous spark in Finn’s eyes, one that Seth so frequently saw, even when it’s simply that he’d been pounced on in the morning by a cuddly and handsy Finn. “I’m serious, Seth. As long as we show up to everything on time, who cares how we got there? And we can brag about our Parisian date to all the others who were in airports.” Finn poked Seth’s chest, appealing to his somewhat innate need to always be one step ahead of everyone else. He’d get a soft date in Paris, and everyone else would get seventeen dollar airport sandwich wraps. That sounded very good.

“Screwing the flight right now.” Seth’s eyes flashed with that same mischief, and Finn grinned big, snagging a gummy bear from the bag that now rested on his thighs. A few taps of his phone, and the flight was summarily canceled, and all the reservations for a car and a date were arranged. It was going to be perfect. Even more perfect considering what Seth had been carrying around in his many suitcases for three whole months, waiting for the right moment. -- The night was truly beautiful. The glimmering City of Lights didn’t fail to deliver said lights, and the cafe they’d tucked themselves into had a halo of fairy lights strung on the heated patio outside.

Seth wasn’t nervous. He’d definitely faced scarier things that locking in the whole ‘love of your life, till death do you part’ stuff. He wasn’t nervous, not at all, because the love of his life was picking at a fucking quiche. Quiche wasn’t scary, Rollins, just fucking get a hold of yourself.

His hands were shaking like they never had when he slipped out of his chair and down to one knee, not from adrenaline, not from the coursing thrum of victory and the roar of eighty fucking thousand people. There was nothing like this, like seeing the stars and the glow of the lights reflected in Finn’s wide eyes as he processed the sight in front of him. A ring. A ring set with glittering little stones, subtle and yet still gorgeous.

“Seth, is what I think happening happening?” Finn breathed, hands clutching delicately at his napkin. “If what you think is happening is asking the best fucking thing to ever happen to me to marry me then yes. What you think is happening is happening.” Seth grinned so bright it dimmed all the others in comparison, trying to ignore how his heart was thudding in his chest, but his breathing had stopped. It was like the world was holding its breath with him, waiting for Finn’s answer.

“Seth, is this why you didn’t wanna take the flight?” Finn breathed softly, and it was all Seth could do to nod, his mouth so dry it hurt. “You sap. You absolute sap. Yes, Seth, of course I’m saying yes.” He slipped down to cradle Seth’s cheeks and bring him into a kiss, feeling himself get choked up as the ring slides perfectly onto his finger.

“I know I’m a few days early, but.. Merry Christmas, Finn.” Seth murmured as he pulled back, a soft smirk on his face, and Finn punched him gently. As gently as he could.

“You’re the worst. I’m filing for divorce.”

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