#would love to see theories from ppl who know more about tarot cards and the Garden of Eden story

[caffernnn]

I really have no idea about what will be happening in Thom. I’m just reading and enjoying the universe, but do you have any theories yet and favorite scenes? The “my hands are your hands scene” really stuck with me!

⚠️ WARNING: THoM spoilers through Chapter 5 ahead ⚠️

Ahh thanks for asking!! It’s been nice revisiting the universe and just taking in the little details (seeing the habits and cute lil domestic things that make up the daily lives of makoharu/sourin/Freebird now) but with things now starting to amp up in recent chapters, it’s time to start becoming a detective 😌

The “your hands are my hands” moment was such a striking/beautiful one (have you seen Ale’s art depicting the moment? SO good!), and it is also the scene inspiring one of my theories/predictions, if you can even call it that. I left a long comment on Ao3 talking about this on the most recent chapter, but there are so many signs pointing to Haru inevitably being involved in whatever conflict comes next. He’s made it clear that he is willing to stand down and try to remove himself from any conflict if that’s truly what Makoto wants, but there are so many little symbols and indications in the story already that make it seem like Haru doesn’t have a choice (and never really did). For example, as much as his actions affect Makoto, Makoto’s actions moving forward will also force Haru’s hand. We know that even though Makoto struggled to understand Haru and Sousuke’s sacrifice and draw towards chaos in EWOATT, he knew in his heart that he would fight for his loved ones (he thought as much before the battle in the outskirts; he told Haru as much when they were musing about their future together). He compared himself to Eve and said he’d pursue the temptations of the tree if he thought it’d make a difference, which feels like blatant foreshadowing. We know that he thinks about others too much and can be driven to the point of martyring himself until he’s drained empty if there isn’t someone there to stop him (his internal battles throughout ewoatt; his struggles with teacher burnout and care fatigue now). He’s already shown curiosity in looking further into Misaki’s situation, and I doubt he’ll fully remove himself from whatever is going on with Diamondback, now that we know Hiyori has him on his radar (who knows how much he truly knows about Haru; who knows what he learned since coming to Iwatobi; who even knows what was said between him and Makoto when he asked him for a cigarette???). I worry that even though Makoto is the one who told Haru that their fates are undeniably intertwined now, he’s going to forget that the sentiment works both ways and whatever he’s about to do next is going to throw Haru right back into the fray. And this is all only thinking about if Makoto gets involved in whatever iwatobi’s broken gangs have brewing. Even though they’re in peacetime right now, Haru is still Freebird’s kingpin and guardian, and any move made by anyone in his family now is going to doom him to act. He’s in a damning position of endless devotion to his family, and I think a part of him knows as much (almost falling apart at the thought of losing anyone else after the overdose incident; the way he couldn’t even give a definitive vote, like he knows he has desires but not a true choice in the matter).

FAVORITE SCENE: loving the lighthearted moments so far, like Haru calming Makoto down before school, and Namiko and Misaki’s precious interactions. However, I guess I’m angsty as hell and my favorite chapter/moment so far is Chapter 3 (The Hanged Man P1). Left too many thought about that in the Ao3 comments as well, but part of my love for this universe stems from how it confronts the influence of addiction on others, and seeing how Haru confronts/copes with his own addiction while also trying to inject hope into so many others’ addiction stories hit me in a very personal way. It’s painful but realistic and as much as I love the whimsy and romance in Beth’s writing, I think I’ll always be most drawn and amazed by her moments of sobering realism and how she addresses overarching conflicts like addiction/poverty/etc. in her works.

Thanks for giving me a chance to ramble — I’d love to hear any of your thoughts, theories, and/or favorite scenes as well!! 💚💚💚

#would love to see theories from ppl who know more about tarot cards and the Garden of Eden story #the symbolism feels important but I honestly don’t know enough to make any substantial claims or theories #thanks for asking! #thomfic #thomfic spoilers #fic recs #long post #anonymous

[vardasvapors]

bunch of replies

ivanaskye replied to your post“its 5am and my gf and i are trying to google a believable theory for...”

we found something tho!!! apparently there’s a possibility that it is.... to comfort baby. when baby stops drinking milk... might still need comfort.., of boob

so REALLY WORRIED TODDLERS are a human-only thing, probably, and the solution was (according to one hypothesis)................ comfort boobies

which as far as I am concerned has very good explanatory potential because humans differ from other apes in many ways including 1) having longer childhoods and 2) being smarter and therefore more ancious

THIS IS THE CUTEST THING esp bc i, too, require comfort boob

thepioden replied to your post “its 5am and my gf and i are trying to google a believable theory for...”

As a biologist: if something seems weird and dumb you can probably blame either sexual selection or genetic drift.

‘it’s sexy’ is an insufficient answer tho :(((( wanna kno......why that kink developed......kinks for Hooge Chest Cysts......

actualmermaid replied to your post “its 5am and my gf and i are trying to google a believable theory for...”

tity good

a compelling point

bamboocounting replied to your post “s— since— since.......? since......when.....is elrond.....a character...”

hfffhdjkshj

berrysphase replied to your post “s— since— since.......? since......when.....is elrond.....a character...”

????????? ?? ?

ivanaskye replied to your post “s— since— since.......? since......when.....is elrond.....a character...”

wh h-how.... could anyone have come to that conclusion.....

nimium-amatrix-ingenii-sui replied to your post “s— since— since.......? since......when.....is elrond.....a character...”

bzuh? who says he's unloved and neglected? he's practically another self-insert?

I KNOW RIGHT????? god i understand why ppl have a special love for characters who ARE unfairly underused and underappreciated by their authors or other fans (this is the fastest way to make me love a character i formerly didn’t care about) but THIS IS NOT ONE OF THEM. also like...........if this is what ur looking for, elros is.........Right There.......

irisseireth replied to your post “s— since— since.......? since......when.....is elrond.....a character...”

More like unloved by Peter Jackson

sdghfyusdgcsdjhcgfsdf THIS IS TRUE and it’s painfully obvious that a large number of silm fans who like to style themselves as More Knowledgable Than LOTR Fans Bc They’ve Read The Silm have never......read lotr......>_>

actualmermaid replied to your post “s— since— since.......? since......when.....is elrond.....a character...”

Struggling to think of who jrrt could have lived MORE than elrond

yeah like.......galadriel? there’s galadriel. 

actualmermaid replied to your post “bamboocounting: @vardasvapors this one was my favorite book cover as...”

Yes!!!!! One of the best Pern books w great cover art!!!!!

eeeeee i’m glad i will keep in mind if i ever finish my to-read list T_T

thelioninmybed replied to your post “can one play magic the gathering with modified tarot cards”

Temperance is OP and should be nerfed

ADD3MANA

ivanaskye replied to your post “can one play magic the gathering with modified tarot cards”

What I keep getting stuck on is which ones are the lands.... I think what you MIGHT have to do is, combine multiple tarot decks into your magic tarot deck hell, and one of the deck’s minor arcana can be lands (used, of course, to play minor arcana from the other decks.) Which doesn’t answer how major arcana fit in UM

what about skirting this problem by making it yu-gi-oh instead of magic the gathering

bamboocounting replied to your post “can one play magic the gathering with modified tarot cards”

how do you normally play it?

VALID POINT

l33tsaber replied to your post “can one play magic the gathering with modified tarot cards”

Conversely, I want to see someone do a tarot spread with the MTG Unglued set.

this is very funny now that ivana explained it to me!!!! i would like this for my birthday

thepioden replied to your post “can one play magic the gathering with modified tarot cards”

As long as one is not a coward

HMMMMMMMMMMMM

simaethae replied to your post “gurguliare replied to your post:                    gurguliare...”

ok but are we really going to have a discussion about pern without mentioning all the magic-companion-animal-facilitated dubcon

i kept trying to rephrase or clarify that but i'm just going to let it stand

THE. WHAT. how is it facilitated. is this like pokemon.

garden-ghoul replied to your post “simaethae replied to your quote “   the descendants of terraformers,...”

mostly fond of "kid me did not have a normal gauge for Too Much Philosophy" because I can so clearly see that being the case

no i’m fond of me!!!!!!!! and yes it was the case bc i didn’t know the difference between ‘this is deep and fresh’ and ‘this is deep but everyone has said it fifty million times and it’s a cliche’ so i was always v impressed

#ivanaskye #athrabething #thepioden #actualmermaid #bamboocounting #irisseireth #berrysphase #nimium-amatrix-ingenii-sui #thelioninmybed #l33tsaber #simaethae #garden-ghoul