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in1-nutshell · 6 months
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Concept, mtmte Megatron accidentally adopts young human buddy.
Like there's basically just a teenager on the lost light, and because teenagers have no fear of death, they go out of their way to interact with the ex-warlord.
Time goes on, and eventually, when Megatron realizes the dynamic he has, he goes into a typical angsty brooding session. Bonus points if it has Brooklyn 99 energy of Peralta accidently calling holt 'dad' energy.
I really do enjoy your blog because a lot of the stuff is either platonic or familial, and that's my favorite shit. Hope you have a good day and drink water.
Thank you for the compliment! I have been drinking water and been having a pretty decent day. Now, Human Buddy who knows no fear is about to strike the fear of their well being upon others! Megatron is their prime target...
Hope you enjoy!
Megatron 'accidentally' adopting human Buddy who fears nothing
SFW, familial, platonic, mentions of injuries but nothing graphic or in details, Human reader
MTMTE/LL
Oh, Buddy starts off as the bane of his existence.
Buddy joins the lost light before the events of Delphi happen. Meaning they have been dealing with everyone’s problems since a little over day one.
Let’s give Buddy some context.
By sheer luck, Buddy managed to enter the Cybertronain/ Human Liaison program and was now the proud representative in the Lost Light.
Many bots on the Lost Light thought that this would be a little liaison and would be a bit fearful of the hulking giants around them or some sleazy politician. Some were just curious as they had never seen a human until that moment.
Rodimus is preparing for a Prowl like or Magnus like person to board the bridge. That’s usually who they send when it comes to relations, except Marrisa Fairborn, she was an exception.
At first Buddy did come off as someone overly polite… that was soon going to change.
“Welcome Buddy aboard the Lost Light.”—Ultra Magnus
“Thank you, Ultra Magnus sir.”--Buddy
“And I will be your Captain! The names Rodimus Prime.”--Rodimus
“Well, I’m just Buddy. Sorry but I should be entering my room now before take-off. Thank you again for the introduction sirs. I hope to find you soon?”--Buddy
“Absolutely, we will start the meeting in an hour in the meeting room down your hall.”—Ultra Magnus
“Thank you.”--Buddy
“…Great another stick in the mud…”--Rodimus
“Oh, hush they seem like a nice human.”—Ultra Magnus
A week later
“Hey Rodimus, I bet you can throw me into that mattress over there.”--Buddy
“Oh? You’re on!”--Buddy
“I have the reports ready—OH SWEET PRIMUS! BUDDY!”—Ultra Magnus
Timeskip
“So let me get this straight… You bet Rodimus, one of the most impulsive and childish bots on bourd—”--Ratchet
“Hey!”--Rodimus
“To THROW you across the room to a small mattress and it didn’t occur to you that you could bounce off the mattress!?”--Ratchet
“Well at least all the blood is internal right? That’s were the blood is supposed to be?”--Buddy
“…”--Ratchet
“Oh Primus…”—Ultra Magnus
“Oh, Primus indeed.”--Rodimus
Buddy does not know what ‘self-preservation’ is. Its not in their vocabulary. Ratchet has lost count of the amount of times that Buddy has come in the med bay with an injury that was caused by some atrociously dumb plan.
“Alright… what’s the damage today? Whirl brought you in this time so it must be bad.”—Ratchet
“Rude.”—Buddy and Whirl
“Well, I’m waiting. What happened?”--Ratchet
“Well… I was trying to follow Skids trails through the vents, which is so cool to visit—”--Buddy
“Kid.”--Ratchet
“Right. Well, I thought I could jump across the vent opening and kind a didn’t…”--buddy
“What?”--Ratchet
“Good thing Whirl was there to break my fall! Sorry again Whirl for the glass.”--Buddy
“Next time you bust my glass at least do a flip next time you fall on your back.”--Whirl
“What you fell on your back?! You have glass imbedded in it!”--Ratchet
“Huh? That explains why my back hurts so much.”--Buddy
“…”--Ratchet
Rodimus takes it back he loves this little human. Buddy is his best human friend. Whirl wins this though, he already asked Buddy to be his Amica Endura, and they accepted!
“Hey Ratchet—”--Drift
“Shh!”--Ratchet
“Rude—”--Drift
“No. It’s quiet… to quiet…”--Ratchet
“What do you think we are going to get attack?”--Drift
“…No, it’s something much worse.”--Ratchet
“What could be worse—”--Drift
“Its Whirl and Buddy! They haven’t made noise in about 10 minutes!”--Ratchet
“Ratchet I think that them not making noise—”--Drift
BAM!
“Eat floor Cyclonus!”--Whirl
“Whirl! Run! He’s gaining on us!”--Buddy
“I stand corrected.”--Drift
They make friends with a lot of bots on board. Many are happy to meet an individual such as Buddy. But this also comes at a cost. Many bots have to watch for Buddy in case something bad happens to them. They are so small and they keep getting into dangerous situations!
Rung has a line of bots that express the same worry for Buddy one day doing something dumb and not being able to come back from it.
Buddy knows no fear.
How does the crew know this?
Buddy made it their life job to make Megatron uncomfortable when they found out he was going to be the Co-Captain.
“Hey! MegaDork!”--Buddy
“Hmm?”--Megatron
Bucket of oil falls from door.
“Theres more were that came from Bucket Head! That’s for Earth!”--Buddy
Megatron can’t do anything about it. He hates organics and he can’t kill this one, not without causing another war. When Ravage shows up, he thinks that Buddy might back down a bit. I mean what human in their right of mind would try and continue to prank him when ravage is around? Buddy takes this as a challenge that needs to be beaten. If anything, Ravage helps a bit.
“He slipped on the paint! Go! Go! Go!”--Buddy
“Ravage!?”--Megatron
“All is fair in music tapes and war Megatron.”—Ravage
Buddy has the ring tone of Megs comm to “Be Prepared” from the Lion King. Swerve helped them put in the music. He laughed nonstop when it first worked.
They are petty.
Everyone is on edge whenever those two are in the same room.
Half ready to shoot Megatron down the other half to get Buddy to safety once they manage to trigger Megatron.
Is there any chance that Megatron will get a break?
Yes, yes, he does.
He managed to finally get a place holder for a poetry night in one of the classrooms. Not to his surprise no bot shows up. He is about to leave when he hears the quick little sets of footsteps coming in.
“Wait! Wait! Hold the door! I’m here! I’m here!”--Buddy
“Buddy?”--Megatron
“I’m not late, am I? I just saw the flyer from Swerve. And—hold on—sprinted from my room back here.”--Buddy
“Oh, umm, no one came…”--Megatron
“Oh, okay then its just us two them Big Guy?”--Buddy
“Wait—”--Megatron
“Call dibs on the chair on the left.”--Buddy
Megatron never pegged Buddy to be into poetry. He is also floored with Buddy actually talking to him and giving pointers on how to improve his own pieces of work. Even referring to other poets’ works so he could get some inspiration!
He nearly misses the shy look Buddy gives when he compliments their work.
He thinks that this is a onetime thing.
He is deeply mistaken.
“Hey Megs! You ready for today’s meeting?”--Buddy
“Oh, yes I am.”--Megatron
“Good! I have a bunch of works that need to be peer reviewed and I can’t trust Rodimus to look over these; and Whirl sadly isn’t an option for these either.”--Buddy
“Why don’t you ask Magnus? Surely, he could also help?”--Megatron
“And have him explain to me the importance of an Oxford comma when I forgot to put one in my writing? Yeah no, I need your optics for this.”--Buddy
“…Me?”--Megatron
Buddy no longer causes too much trouble for the Ex-warlord. Still trouble but not as much as last time. They always come to the poetry club and even managed to snag a couple of their friends to come with.
He is not going to admit to anyone, well maybe Ravage, that he started growing a soft spot for them.
“Ravage… I think I might be growing fond of Buddy…”--Megatron
“Congratulations! You’re officially the last one to know.”--Ravage
These little interactions begin happening more and more, Megatron is just happy that things are finally going well.
Then it happened.
It was at Swerve’s.
He was sitting at the bar looking over Buddy’s latest writing with Buddy, themselves sitting patiently. He gives a compliment and gives them back the writing.
“You’ve improved Buddy. These are getting better with more time.”--Megatron
“Thanks Dad.”--Buddy
“…”--Everyone
“Why is everyone so quiet?”--Buddy
“You just called Megatron here, ‘Dad’.”--Whirl
“What’s a ‘Dad’?”--Tailgate
“No! I didn’t say ‘Dad’! I just said, ‘Thanks Man!’”--Buddy
“I don’t know Buddy. It sounded a lot like ‘Dad’ to me.”--Whirl
“Seriously, what’s a ‘Dad’?”--Tailgate
“Well, you heard wrong Whirl!”--Buddy
“Do you see me as a father figure Buddy?”--Megatron
“No! I see you as a bother figure if anything.”--Buddy
“Hey respect your Dad!”--Ratchet
“Is no one going to tell me what a ‘Dad’ is?”--Tailgate
After that interaction, Buddy begins to avoid Megatron after the confrontation and nearly shuts down when someone brings up the event. Megatron really wants to talk to buddy about the incident but decides not to. Maybe it was a mistake.
He broods over it for a while.
He finds Buddy again at Swerve’s where a rather drunk bot was making fun of Buddy for their little ‘slip up’.
“Wow Fleshy. You messed be so messed up in the processor to call Megatron your Dad.”—Drunk Bot
“Hey drop it.”--Buddy
“Oh, look at me! I’m so scared of a human how I could flick across the room if I wanted to.”—Drunk Bot
“Oh, please I know that barely existing processor of yours isn’t that dumb. But even then, I hope Natural selection takes you if you follow through that threat.”—Buddy
It was getting to the point where it was becoming insensitive.
Bots around were getting uneasy at the conversation and some looked like they were going to come over and do something.
Megatron is quicker.
As he strides over, he is met with the infamous brick of parenthood. Should he really take up such a mantle?
He takes that mantle by the horns and makes it his.
“My child, is something wrong?”--Megatron
Voice crack “Nope. Just Peachy.”--Buddy
Everyone looks over.
Buddy is just beaming.
Megatron has no regrets saying what he said, he lets Buddy know this.
No, Buddy isn’t crying. You’re the one crying.
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decepti-thots · 8 months
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That post about aileron reminded me of how I think of nautica trying to erase skids from her memory like she just doesn’t know how to cope with death and loss cause she was removed from the wild ass war! It’s a weird beat in the comic but it speaks loudly to me
Ohhh yeah. These two are definitely a couple different perspectives on a theme, as it were.
While I have critiques of Nautica's arc in execution there (it's… got a LOT of flaws and IMO does not stick the landing at all, to put it pretty mildly; hence why I find exRiD overall better at exploring these ideas), I think it's a real shame that unlike so many other arcs in MTMTE/LL with issues or incomplete resolutions or whatever, there doesn't seem to be a lot of interest in taking the core emotional idea and running with it in fandom spaces? It feels like a really toothy emotional hook to latch onto that a lot could be done with as a part of the canon that is definitely a font of massive missed potential and lingering threads. (God, it really kills me ever since it was first pointed out to me how Nautica and Brainstorm's relationship might change because he's watching her do what Chromedome kept doing.) Nautica gets stuck in a kind of Cheerful Generic Girl Best Friend mode in fandom that skips past uhhh. A lot of her actual canon presence, when you really look at it!
It's especially interesting to think about because as a species their feelings about death are very different, right? Which IDW1 does address, and MTMTE specifically mentions this, with Cyclonus talking about how there's one version of the Guiding Hand myth that states Cybertronians are "immortal" because they killed Mortilus. Like. They don't have a lot of context for death as a regular, natural part of life that everyone comes into contact with in the day to day. Caminus isn't just full of civilians in the way you or I might be a civilian during peacetime; if you're a civilian for these folks, death is an abnormality period, a freak accident or whatever at most. (And even then: you're so hard to kill, it can't be common.) Cybertronians in the war are the weird ones for being used to it as a regular occurrence, and for both Aileron and Nautica it's not just that their friends experience traumatic and violent deaths, but that they die at all. It's got to be existentially destabilising in a way so many of the characters on that ship just can't relate to. (Tailgate likely could, but he's uhhhh, he's got other stuff going on at that point, so we will forgive him being too busy, lmao.)
Hell, I mentioned Brainstorm. He's an MTO. MTOs are the first of the currently living generations of their species to grow up with no memory of a society in which people do not regularly die; even once peacetime sets in, we see that they have reached the point in their species' lifespan where death by old age is becoming increasingly common and thus part of their cultural landscape. Those are a lot of Nautica's friends, who maybe want to help but have no easy way to really understand why she's reacting so strongly, you know?
Ohhh I love Nautica so much. Can you tell. Someone hug that poor woman good lord.
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soundwavereporting · 2 years
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Do you think that idw Rumble and Frenzy resent Megatron/Soundwave in some way because they had to be reformatted? Would love to know what you think of their relationship with SW is post-war.
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tl;dr, yes, I think they probably do (especially Soundwave) and I wish that had been explored in the comic!
The only time I can remember offhand Rumble and Frenzy ever explicitly acknowledging their relationship with Soundwave is in the OP comic, where one of them essentially tells Cosmos ‘we used to like [Soundwave] BEFORE he started hanging out with Autobots’, and weirdly, Cosmos doesn’t seem to take it that personally--they even call him ‘Cosmey’--which leads me to believe it’s Soundwave’s new alliance with Optimus that they’re bitter about (and rightfully so!), and Cosmos has picked up on that.
Of course there might be times in Phase 1 that I’m forgetting about, but most of the time, it’s the birds or Ravage who are hyping up Soundwave or actually talking to him. Rumble and Frenzy barely get a mention in Soundwave’s first flashback issue, and iirc they don’t show up in his flashbacks during the OP comic. Soundwave’s only real interaction with them during phase 1 is during that very ‘‘‘interesting’‘ time when Frenzy was ‘crazy’, but that was thankfully short lived, and a lot of Frenzy’s tendencies towards hearing too much/overstimulation were passed on to Soundwave when phase 2 started, anyway. But from that, Soundwave did care about Frenzy.
The only other indication of their relationship is during the Prowlstator arc, and even that’s up to interpretation: when everyone gets reformatted, that would’ve been the perfect time for Rumble and Frenzy to get new, non-cassette bodies if they were so inclined. Having two extra full-sized soldiers could only have helped the attempted takeover but for whatever reason, they ended up staying with Soundwave, and later in the series they pull the same ‘all the cassettes hide in Soundwave and then pull a sneak attack’ that they did in Megatron: Origin.
From the start of Phase 1 to the end of Phase 3, both Soundwave and Optimus’s close friends/officers/coworkers/support systems radically change (or in Soundwave’s change, just get whittled down); While Ratbat and Bumblebee both die and Ravage, Rodimus, and Ratchet go over to MTMTE/LL, Jazz, Prowl, Rumble, and Frenzy all end up leaving distancing themselves specifically because of decisions Optimus and Soundwave make, respectively.
And it’s the similarities between Jazz + Rumble & Frenzy that really get me! This all goes down in within a few issues! We get more insight into Jazz’s motives than Rumble and Frenzy, but I think it’s safe to assume the twins’ motives for not staying close with Soundwave are similar enough to why Jazz didn’t go back to Optimus, albeit in a far more blasè manner (”We’re trying to be good but it’s hard.”)
EDIT: having reread the issue in question, they did go back to Sanctuary, then promptly started taking weapons from the station and selling them on Earth, which almost makes it funnier because I absolutely refuse to believe Soundwave was so oblivious he didn’t know that was happening. Looking at this from the POV of Soundwave being an Optimus stan, he knew and didn’t care, because Earth was gonna become a part of the Council of Worlds. From the POV of Soundwave not being an Optimus stan......maybe he hoped it’d sabotage Earth’s acceptance into the Council somehow?
EDIT 2: having now checked the wiki, they were doing this before and after the junkion arc, but tbh my point still stands. 
Plus--finding Rumble and Frenzy on Earth--a place populated by beings Soundwave has to actually focus to hear--should’ve been easy, if Soundwave felt so inclined to go to them and stop the gunrunning. But he didn’t--aside from plot reasons, it’s likely he knew how they felt and was giving them space. I find it hard to believe that the colonists didn’t tell OP what happened between them and Jazz. Like Soundwave, Optimus leaves Jazz and doesn’t seek him out until they happen to meet up later in the series. 
I also can’t help but think about the fact that Rumble and Frenzy are probably the ones who’ve known Megatron + stuck with him the longest! Impactor went to the Autobots, Terminus...happened. The Constructicons were with him almost as long, and they explicitly wanted to go! I imagine maybe Rumble and Frenzy wanted to go as well, and like Prowl, Soundwave was like ‘no way’. Maybe that was the start of the end for them, and him joining up with Optimus was just the straw that broke the camel’s back.
Essentially, I think they didn’t like it at first, got used to it--enough to want to stick around with Soundwave & the other cassettes (even when they had the chance to get reformatted!), but once Soundwave changed, they decided to split.
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marmaligne · 3 years
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1/1 Hello! headcanon S/O makes good covers of songs and music videos(like those YouTube videos)? Swerve, as a lover of Earth(this is how it was mentioned in the comics) walks on the Internet and finds various covers performed by their human friend, watches and listens to them all and then runs to show Rewind.
[TF MTMTE] S/O Who Makes Song Covers
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* At first, Swerve was having a particularly slow day in the bar.
* He had just dealt with another one of Whirl’s shenanigans which accidentally blew up into a huge scuffle between Whirl and Skids, which got Chromedome and Rewind involved after Whirl stole their drinks in order to drench Skids in energon.
* The resident liaison, aka you, had watched from afar as everything turned to scrap between them and the whole area erupted into a bar fight.
* Swerve was embarrassed to say the least—the one person who ever seemed to pay attention to him on this damned ship, and they witnessed him unable to control his own patrons.
* He decided to close the bar early and retire off to his habsuite afterwards—better than sticking around.
* Turned on a datapad while sipping a cube of highgrade because Primus knows he deserves it.
* Began surfing through the internet and stumbled upon his favourite video streaming and uploading site: youtube.
* At first he scrolled through recommended cat videos, DIY’s and gaming streams, until he found something strangely out of place on the home page.
* He’d stumbled upon the music section and saw your face plastered to the front of a video image. Beneath it captioned “Born this way [Cover by s/o]” and featuring a plethora of other musicians and background singer mentions.
* He clicked on it, immediately entranced by the thought of you having a secret life or hobby, possibly whatever you did for a living before joining the LL crew.
* Absolutely astounded by the sound of your voice—he truly believed you were the incarnation of clarity based on the effortlessness of your rhythm and lack of lisps or vocal breaks.
* Swerve used to invest a bit in musicians back on Cybertron, he never owned a bar back then but understood that Cybertron’s versions of human ‘Harlems’ contained a lot of organized musical entertainment.
* When he opened a bar on the ship after finding the distillery with Skids, the first thing he thought of was music.
* Never found a decent singer cause everybody on the LL sucks.
* Immediately after finishing the first video, he clicked on your profile and continued scrolling, finding the oldest one on your account and beginning there.
* The post itself was 8 years old, which meant you had been in the industry of cover songs and albums for a decent time before you joined the LL on their adventures across space.
* He listened to every single one of them, with themes ranging from jazz and reggae, to rap and pop music from disney movies.
* Fell in love with your personality even more through your music; surely someone who sounds so beautiful has a beautiful heart as well!
* Immediately after finishing the last video, he ran to show the only other over-appreciator of media: Rewind.
* Rewind was astounded as well by your abilities, immediately began recording and downloading the recordings to a private database for future purposes.
* Both of them immediately called a bar meeting at like.... 3 am.
* Ultra Magnus (Minimus Ambus) arrived first and demanded to know why an emergency meeting was called.
* Rodimus and Chromedome arrived next because Roddy thought there’d be a fight, and Chromedome heard that Rewind sounded the emergency alert.
* As soon as everyone gathered, and Swerve stated it had something to do with their dear human liaison, everybody shut up.
* The room fell silent until Rewind began streaming the music to the bar speakers.
* Immediate awe from everyone in the room.
* This melodious voice belonged to s/o? Their little liaison? The one everybody used to ignore?
* Crushes and developing friendships all around the room and you hadn’t even arrived yet.
* The moment you stepped foot into the bar, everybody once again went quiet. When you asked why, an immediate response broke out.
* “You sing?!” and “I didn’t know your original function was a musician?” and “I didn’t know you had such a sweet voice!” rang out across the ship.
* You were evidently startled, and Swerve could tell—Rewind as well—and Swerve had to smash a clean glass against the counter to gain everyone’s attention again.
* “Let’s hear what our friend here has to say, shall we?”
* Everybody once again turned to face you.
* You explained that it was rather embarrassing they had stumbled upon an old ‘hobby’ of yours, but told them that you used to be a well-loved solo-singer back in the early days before the lost light.
* You never gained much fame beyond the internet media streams and sometimes group choreographs, but found a joy in music anyways, hoping to make your life long dream of finding fame and happiness out of singing come true.
* When you realized that such a thing was hard to achieve, especially in your national industry, you basically gave up on trying to achieve it, which is why the date of your last upload was about 2 years before you came to the crew.
* They listened intently, Swerve especially, and their expressions changed from astonishment to sadness.
* “So you.... don’t sing anymore?” came from a slightly downed Megatron—he thought there’d finally be someone to appreciate his poetry.
* You told him no, and the entire bar began to beg. About 100 bots shoved into a small bar, begging and pleading with you to continue your dream and make new music—some offering to teach you Cybertronian if it meant you could produce it in their language.
* The hesitancy in your voice was obvious, but you did eventually agree.
* The LL broke out into cheering, and Swerve reopened the bar for the night so that the others could party away. Ultra Magnus and some other tired bots slipped off down the halls to recharge again, but not before offering their congratulations (and bribes).
* You smiled slightly and exited the room, heading to the internal flight deck for some alone time.
* Swerve eventually made his way down after everyone had had their drinks, wanting to speak with you about the past.
* “Why’d ya’ give it up in the first place? Singing I mean.”
* “I don’t really know, I suppose because I realized that my dreams were unobtainable.”
* “Then maybe you’ll find that here on the Lost Light, there’s a lot more room for change.” he spoke to you.
* He didn’t know it that night, but you agreed with him. There was a lot that the world could offer, even more so now that you knew the universe was so vast.
* Maybe you went unappreciated on Earth, but you now have hundreds of bots ready to fight for a simple song from you.
* And who knows? Music videos would be 1000% cooler if you filmed them with giant robots out in space.
BONUS:
* Your voice alone singlehandedly turned Getaway back to the good side.
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✨ Hope you enjoyed ✨
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daisyachain · 2 years
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MTMTE/LL is ready-made for a film or tv adaptation down to tv pacing, issues that work as episodes and story arcs, snappy dialogue, and seasonal structure. It’s written by a tv enthusiast for tv enthusiasts.
However, the nature of Transformers and the layers of copyright make it near-impossible to adapt. TF tv series tap into the 7-to-12-year-old market, while TF films have tapped into the Crass Dad market, though Bumblebee did retool to appeal to families. Both of these demographics don’t fit the dense politics of MTMTE/LL. The story is too complex for the scope of Western cartoons outside of…RWBY or Vox Machina, which are both bizarre experiments. The budget requirements of robot aliens are downright impossible without major studio backing.
Now that I mention it, RoosterTeeth could manage the story. Given what happened to Gen:Lock, though, it’s even more unlikely that a project like MTMTE/LL would get off the ground. The funding required for the project would only come with some heavy strings attached—it’s a lore-heavy leftist gay robot comic, the target audience is about three people and they’re all 25-year-olds with no job.
Still, MTMTE/LL is too good to go unadapted. More than a lot of properties it was made for action and acting. The general concept is a road movie, a reasonably established genre, and the aesthetics draw heavily from Star Trek. It can and should be adapted. But never officially—which isn’t a problem.
Everything is a knockoff of everything else, there are no original ideas left. Many film or tv projects are thinly-veiled adaptations or variations on other works that cannot be adapted in some way. My test case for this is Klaus. Going Postal is a great novel by a great author that got a good official film adaptation, but Klaus is my favourite adaptation of the book. The similarities (comically regimented postal service, slacker forced to do work, tough and jaded love interest) are too striking to pass off as coincidence. The differences are significant enough that there’s no copyright conflict.
As Doom Patrol to the X-Men, as Klaus to Going Postal, as The Orville to TOS, as Damon Lindelof’s original story concept to Watchmen (the series was not planned as a Watchmen sequel; the rights were acquired to hedge bets), thinly-veiled adaptations are common enough. MTMTE/LL could and should be made as an original tv series.
The set-up is this: a ragtag group of veterans volunteers for a deep space exploration mission rather than returning to civilian life. A mix of Annihilation and Deep Space Nine. The group starts at the central planet and journeys through the politically unstable outer worlds (Delphi through the college planet, Troja Major), then into the unknown regions (Necroworld, the New Cyberteon).
As in the comic, each new geographical stop prompts a new flashback that slowly builds out the lore of why there was a war, why it’s over, why there are stable and unstable planets, why each of the characters would rather risk their lives in the unknown than live in peace. Rather than Forged/Cold Construction, Functionist/Decepticon/Autobot divides, there are human/cyborg, fundamentalist/working-class/bourgeois divides.
Because MTMTE/LL characters cover such a wide cross-section of their society, you can do the necessary world building through the characters without the unwieldy lore of IDW1. Through Ratchet and Drift, explore Forged/Cold Construction dynamics. Through Whirl, Rewind, and Magnus/Minimus, explore the hierarchical layers of Functionism. It’s built-in.
The journey also mirrors the mental states of the characters handily. In the comic, they leave reborn Cybertron and arrive at New Cybertron, constructed as a do-over that intends to wipe out everybody’s lived experience. In this theoretical adaptation, they leave the homeworld and find a new, fixed, and fundamentally wrong homeworld in the Unknown.
So—if somebody wants to suck boots for fifteen years to get into TV production, assemble a crew of writers, and convince a bunch of old men to make a spiritual adaptation of MTMTE/LL, Godspeed
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fandomoverdrive · 4 years
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Okay I just need to go on a rant about Whirl because I love him he might just be the most tragic character in the entirety of MTMTE and considering the candidates that’s a pretty hard position to cinch. Some of this is gonna have mentions re: self harm, suicidal tendencies/ideation, overall bad coping mechanisms etc so if that’s not your cuppa please scroll on. 
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This gets long so here’s the obligatory read more. 
Let’s write “tragic” in flickering neon letters with the fact that Whirl’s first appearance in MTMTE, dropping the titular “how to say goodbye and mean it,” is a personal soliloquy delivered as he’s in the midst of constructing his own funeral pyre. Whirl is lost, directionless, trapped and unwilling to be such in a postwar environment. But how did we get here? 
Whirl is without a doubt a driven character. In the prewar functionist society, he had no qualms switching careers, risks be damned. Whether he’s always had a knack for disobeying authority or was simply driven by passion or both isn’t elaborated on, but he’s got a hell of a hardheaded streak that’s impossible to ignore. When destroying his business wasn’t enough to deter him from further rebellion, the Senate was happy to turn him into an empuratee and destroy not only the opportunity but the capability of continuing to rebel by pursuing his passion. This is what I’d personally consider the big ‘whump’ moment, less so the use and abuse as a pawn that followed but the point of trauma at which we begin to see Whirl’s psyche begin to twist.
From this point forward we see Whirl in and out of prison, let loose when he can be useful to someone else’s ploy and otherwise incarcerated for a buffet of offenses. No longer able to be constructive and having little if any control of his life, Whirl becomes aggressively destructive. In response to having everything he aspired toward ripped away from him, permanently, he builds a mental defense of bitterness and anger and paves over his black hole of self worth with a veneer of outright assholery. It’s here that he bares his metaphorical fangs and pushes - with gusto - anyone who might even suggest they’re trying to appeal to reason or get close to him as an individual. 
It’s hard to imagine, given even subtly different circumstances, that Whirl would not side with the decepticons for the war. While he’s single-handedly responsible for radicalizing Megatron towards violence, the ‘con intent at the start of revolution - that movement in society should be possible and a caste system based on alt mode is unethical - aligns quite nicely with what he’d already aspired to do with his life. His conscription to the side of the autobots is just another instance in which his autonomy is cast aside. 
Whirl is a tool. Whirl had a passion for watchmaking, but now he can’t, so his new passion is violence. Whirl is a gun and someone else has always told him where to point and all he’s ever been given for his cooperation is the blame of pulling the trigger. Whirl is an asshole, Whirl is unpredictable, Whirl isn’t a mech anybody would ever think twice about saving - the answer would always be no. Whirl wants to die. Whirl only wants to die on his own terms and he’ll be damned if he’s going to keel over under the orders of someone he doesn’t respect, for a cause he doesn’t believe in. 
A few years of this sort of treatment would be enough to drive anyone insane, let alone the millennia of warfare he suffered through. Worse yet is the one time he found a group, a team that was known for the unorthodox and taking on the big messy challenges, the Wreckers kicked him out. Whirl was too much for the mechs that were too much and there’s no way in hell that doesn’t still sting. 
That’s how we get here:
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Whirl defends himself through isolation from others. He can’t be hurt by others if he never lets them close enough to be hurt by. In a hypersocial society, he has no close long-term friends, he is one of the few with no roommate aboard the Lost Light. He made himself as unpalatable as possible. He’s crass, he’s volatile, he makes it clear with every word and action that Whirl is first, you don’t mean anything, I’d leave you for dead in an instant..... But that’s not true, is it? 
Whirl is shown being completely, dramatically, self-destructively caring throughout the series. Between risking his life for the scraplet colony disguised as a protoform, participating in an untested spark jumpstart to save a life, coming up with a plan to rejuvenate Tailgate’s spark, and performing a spark transplant surgery on Megatron - without whom the world would never have been even a fraction as cruel to Whirl as it had been - Whirl is far from the most selfish character in the series. It’s in his nature, however, to deny such, to the point where he more than likely believes his own narrative that he’s irredeemable, self-absorbed, invincible, degenerate, and neither capable nor deserving of close interpersonal relationships. 
It’s also how we get here:
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Whirl is one of the characters that we more frequently see in a state of disrepair. He fights passionately and recklessly, with no regard whatsoever to whether or not he makes it out of a scrum with all his limbs intact. Injuries like these, and those that he experiences elsewhere in the series, would put other mechs out of commission through pain alone, but as long as Whirl is conscious he doesn’t stop until the fight is over. 
As depressing as it is to think that Whirl is simply at this point accustomed to extraordinary pain, it’s even moreso to think about the more likely concept that he wants to be hurt. Whirl doesn’t have control of a lot that happens to him, but do you know what he does have control of? Who he chooses to shit-talk. More often than not we see Whirl being blatantly disrespectful of his superiors, and some of the more dangerous mechs aboard the LL. While obviously his intent when insulting Ultra Magnus isn’t to start a fight, harping on Drift (and subsequently getting cold clocked) or Cyclonus is a little more self-destructive in nature. 
While Whirl has been in therapy, we see during the encounter with Fort Max that he’d shared very little of what he actually considered traumatic with Rung. With no material to work with, Rung wouldn’t have been able to give Whirl instructions or advice as far as a healthy coping mechanism, and so I’m firmly of the belief that Whirl goes out of his way to get himself hurt as a way to have a vague sense of control. 
On his actions and guilt:
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Whirl is immensely guilty. When he’s overcharged, he admits that everything feels like his fault - and unfortunately a lot is. Whirl believes he’s the bad guy, and he’s willing to take the fall for actions that others might find immoral. There’s a lot Whirl has done that he’ll likely never forgive himself for, even if he garnered the ability to start forgiving himself for the small things, but the character he’s created for himself has been part of him for so long that it’s near impossible to tell where to draw the line between caricature and his genuine self. 
At this point in time, Whirl is not capable of improving himself without external assistance. 
He has accepted (however wrongfully) that he is not cared about, trusted, wanted, or respected. 
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His assumptions become self-fulfilling prophecy as he - consciously or not - works to perpetuate his image. Whirl is a dick, he’s unfazed by anything anyone says about him, if someone is insulting him they’re probably right, why bother arguing unless it’s with the intent to get in a fight? He doesn’t pay attention to others, he doesn’t pay attention to himself, nothing that anybody could say could possibly make a difference. 
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Right? Right?
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Wrong. Part of what makes Whirl so heart-wrenchingly tragic is that it is so incredibly clear that nobody has ever told him he mattered. Rodimus throws out what could be interpreted as a snide remark, “even the crazy bastard makes a difference,” and that aside sticks with him. Millions of years of warfare, of being a tool to use, an expendable soldier, a rabid dog to throw at their enemies, and not once did someone turn around and say he was anything good. He’s been thanked for saving lives, for contributions, for individual acts, but his reaction to Rodimus really cements in my mind that nobody has ever said that he, that Whirl, was important. 
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Whirl is a broken character. He’s subsumed by his own self-hatred that he perpetuates and justifies with a mask of cruel indifference and aggressively abrasive snark. He’s alone, by what he thinks is his own choice but is really a horribly misguided attempt to keep himself safe. He’s got no potential for growth unless someone wants to force their way through his defenses in order to help him find the line between who he is and who he pretends to be in order to keep from being hurt. Whirl is terrified of abandonment, and guarantees that nobody will ever be able to leave him by never letting them come close to begin with. He’s not a good person, he’s violent and callous and has little regard for the consequences of his actions, but he is that way because of the life he was forced to lead. He falls into consistent patterns because he craves control, even if those patterns are self destructive. It’s proof of the little growth he was allowed during the course of MTMTE/LL that after their quest was over, he didn’t attempt suicide again but instead got into the revolving door of incarceration for petty offenses. 
All in all, Whirl is one of the saddest characters in any media I’ve consumed and please someone get this despicable bastard helicopter a new therapist and a stiff drink 
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polyhexianchicken · 3 years
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14, 15 & 16 for the Munday meme :)
14.Are you a big fan of AUs?
I do quite enjoy them! Hell, I'd love to have a mer!au, family!au, frenemies!au or even a reformatted AU with Whirl- (which honestly I made a sideblog for ajdhajs) well, those are just a few of the ones I'd love to do but not quite sure with who/not sure who's interested in itjahsjam. While I generally prefer/enjoy writing Whirl becoming friends/family because oohoh that sweet fluff and shenaigans with other muses, my romantic heart sometimes still yearns for some good ol' romance sometimes :P xD ^^
Thing is though, I don't really talk alot or ask others about AU's not because I don't enjoy them.. Idk, I just. Forget they're a thing I can do xD
15.What is the oddest muse you’ve picked up that you didn’t think you would?
Might seem weird since I love him dearly, but Whirl. 😂. Hear me out;
I really never thought I'd pick up a canon muse. Since I've begun rp'ing I've only ever rp'ed my oc's. But when I started out on tumblr, I found it waayyy more harder to find others to rp with my oc, as opposed to everywhere else I rp'ed where there were only oc's around. So I lost my muse after only a year of my oc. But in that time, while I'd read all the mtmte/LL comics years prior and loved Cyclonus most of all aiehwue. Idk, I just, slowly really loved the idea of a chaotic and blunt character? And at first I wasn't sure how'd it go since he seemed to me as a fairly unpopular muse at the time. But I really wanted some fun, so I made him anyway.
And here we are, me totally haven given him a deeper story and character and fully loving him and his story that I somewhat adjusted to my liking. :P.
16. What’s an obscure or unusual hobby/interest of your muse?
In context with how Whirl behaves, it would be tinkering tiny figures from scraps of metal, using mainly his claws and a few select tools to bend and pin the metal sheets into place. He likes making them really tiny so he can store them away, and they usually depict events of his days. He hides them of course since he really can't explain why he decided to make a 3D version scrapbook of his memories. (Though one could say it's a helping hand for his memories due to his drinking problem)
And he quite liked collecting scraps from his enemies that he slayed... of course that collection got taken from multiple times and for good after the war. For him it was a weird mix of a fond memory of snuffing out the life of someone he felt anger or hate towards.
Nowadays he tries to concentrate on making things that aren't harmful to others.
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tfw-no-tennis · 3 years
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mtmte liveblog issue 28
catch me completely ignoring dark cybertron lmao
yeahhhh so I'm just gonna skip dark cybertron bc no thanks. I did read the tf wiki articles for the issues tho, which is more than I did in the past, so at least now I kinda know what happened, though I had to suffer thru reading about dark cybertron to learn stuff about it. yikes. reading ABOUT dark cybertron further enforced my decision to not actually read thru it
anyways. the best part of dark cybertron was when chromedome threw prowl off that cliff. that was baller lmfao
a 1 page recap of dark cybertron is about all I can handle. thank you
ooh, the 6 months later smash-cut, I fucking love itttt
nautica’s here!!!!!!!!!!! I'm so happy I love her. also brainstorm, and I love their friendship sm
hvbjdkhfbshdfj god I love them. they have such a fun dynamic 
everyone eavesdropping on a therapy session vhbhdjkhafbhkjsdf. hipaa laws mean nothing as usual 
the casual reveal of captain megatron, oh god 
the title fucking slaps, as usual. this is one of my favorites - ‘world, shut your mouth.’ great stuff, and a song title/reference to boot! and this being part 1: towards peace...chefs kiss
and then we flash back to 6 months earlier...yknow now that I'm rereading this, mtmte has a LOT of framing devices used - there's story-within-a-story, flashback/flash-forwards, storytelling with narration, etc...I love it
god hbvhjakdfbshjkdf rodimus saying ‘magic’ and then the little *magic = science rodimus doesn't understand HBGKJHSDBFKHJSDF my idiot boy ily
rodimus roasting prowl is my fav hbfjdkafshsbjkf ‘maybe the knights can help us find a cure for your personality’ ily sm
and then prowl agreeing w/rodimus a few panels later about megatron’s guilt...
optimus...don't you think that making yourself chief of justice is...maybe a bad idea...like, maybe there's a conflict of interests here...just a little bit of bias...a bit too much history, perhaps...
the fact that all the big roles in the trial were given to high-ranking autobots who were heavily involved in the war...I see that cybertrons justice system is as much of a farce as their medical ethics and patient confidentiality laws 
the ‘you BROKE the MATRIX’ panel is so good bjhkdhfbajskhdf
rodimus: LISTEN dad I just wanna resume my space cruise with my frat bro ship I have no interest in politics
psychiatrists HATE him! local former warlord refuses to recognize the validity of psychological analyzation of people’s actions
ravage casually breaking hipaa laws and chilling in megatron’s therapy session like >:3
I love rung...he’s so good at like, passive-aggressively cutting right to the heart of someone’s issues, and he’s so generally mild that you can’t even really get mad at him 
the sudden inclusion of megatron as a major character in mtmte is kinda jarring at first - mostly, for me at least, due in part because I didn't read dark cybertron so this is like, megatron’s introduction as a relevant character in general - but I feel like jro does a great job laying a lot of intrigue down from the very beginning w/his character - like, I already want to know more about what his whole deal is, even though we have, ostensibly, seen pretty much all of his story play out already 
rung name-dropping froid...i remember that made me lose my shit bc cmon. FROID....jesus christ
rung and megatron: holy shit! we’re suddenly being drawn in a 90s-esque sci-fi tron-looking retro-futuristic style!
interesting that megatron sought rung out, and not the other way around
RIPTIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! my favorite sharkboy is HERE
CREWDITIONS...YES....
‘we’re not allowed to take anyone who might remind rodimus of prowl’ vhbhjdkshfbhaskfd brutal
I love nautica so so much. a perfect autistic scientist after my own heart
I adore that nautica brought chromia along for moral support
hgvbjdakhfbhsj and then swerve saying that rodimus hates ‘trisyllabic names’ and nautica is like....but....‘rodimus’.....
and then nightbeat busts in to get all bbc sherlock on they asses hgbfhjadkfbjaskdf
WHY was perceptor at the crewditions if he was already part of the crew lmao
ooof, and then we have megatron flipping out when chromedome, a mnemosurgeon, shows up
also damn the autobots were rlly like okay so we wanna speed this trial up so lets just like, probe megatrons brain, that seems completely ethical, especially when you consider the history of shadowplay and stuff that our previous government had
I know important stuff is happening but megatron is holding a CUBE and I love CUBES so I'm distracted by that. C U B E
and then right after a scene where we see chromedome willing to perform mnemosurgery again - despite rewind’s like, dying wish for him not to - we hear that he’s been locked up in his room rewatching rewinds goodbye message over and over again :( I'm fucking depressed
I love nightbeat, he’s so funny and kind of an asshole
and then you see more missing letters behind them next panel...clearly nightbeat is right and there’s a mystery afoot...OR somebody is fucking with the ship’s lettering as a prank, which is a plot point I would absolutely buy
yeahhhh skids is right, chromedome is clearly Not dealing 
the dramatic graffiti on megatrons door...I wanna know who spray-painted ‘die’ everywhere like they're reaper overwatch
oh god. whirl vs megatron
really cool red lighting tho
GOD its so brutal, all the stuff megatron said about how he told the cons not to kill whirl...and doesn't that end up being false anyways? so he was just saying it to dig at whirl, which is awful
also I'm never over the fact that literally everyone - including megatron and whirl - blames whirl for ‘turning megatron violent,’ as if the entire Point isn't that whirl was a tool for a corrupt system, and if it wasn't whirl it would've just been someone else, and megatron turning away from pacifism was inevitable given the circumstances, AND also a choice on his part, so he really only has himself to blame for his OWN ACTIONS
bye bye whirls right arm, see you in lost light 
‘people never stop changing’ that IS something I say all the time...damn you warlord grandpa! how can you steal my philosophies?!
ohhh man and then rewind’s goodbye message being different....oooh
AUGH the fact that whirl was basically trying to goad megatron into killing him, just like he did in issue 1 w/cyclonus...It Hurts Man
also I do love the hint at who he’s talking to w/whirl shooting megatron with the bow and arrow earlier, and we know that atomizer is a fan of those
ok, but here’s where my philosophy diverges - megatron talks about throwing away his past and starting new, but I think that you have to learn from and build on your past...either way, megatron’s arc is one that I enjoy greatly from a character writing standpoint, and I'm excited to get it underway, especially w/how controversial it is lmao
big ole double-page spread...I like how you can pick out individual characters in the background crowd, which is crazy cause that's a LOT of people. also how come cosmos is so HUGE
phewwww 4.6 billion cybertronians died in the war, that’s INSANE. that's like, an incomprehensibly huge number. is there an estimate for their current population? I bet its not a lot. no wonder jro leaned into reproductive themes so much in mtmte/ll - of course the continuation of your species would be a concern for many if your numbers have been that greatly reduced
optimus w/his fancy tyrest-lookin crown
oughdajbfsbdf and the fact that megatron ALSO murdered 100 BILLION non-cybertronians...bruh. I feel like they maybe should've dialed those numbers back a little to allow his ‘redemption arc’ to run a little smoother lmao. but also I admire the commitment either way
and then we end w/megatron doing captain stuff, and seeing The Coffin...and we never did see rodimus in any of the flash-forward parts of this issue, did we???? I love how concerning that is. where's my BOY
also of course we gotta remember the warning from way back at the beginning of mtmte: ‘don't open the coffin’....
and so begins mtmte s2! man I love s2. I love mtmte in general lmao. s2 takes on the impossible w/the whole ‘megatron redemption arc’ thing, and I know that’s like, a divisive plot point and stuff, but from a writing standpoint I enjoyed it a lot...I think it was pretty much as well done as it could've been given the enormity of the task, and I thought it was a really interesting direction for the story to go in 
also espec if it’s true that hasbro was like ‘hey jro put megatron in your story and give him a redemption arc’ rather than jro like, planning/asking to do it 
anyways. I doubt ill talk much abt the disc horse(tm) here bc this is just for fun and also my own personal opinions and whatever, but I for one am excited to reexperience this stuff 
so yeah s2 off to a strong start with some wild shit already happening! cant wait to read more!
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not-safe-for-nikki · 4 years
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What if Nikki jokingly got "Yes, Daddy"/"Baby Girl" crop tops and booty shorts?
Will only do the ones I am a t t r a c t e d to lmao
Note: I wrote these at, like, 3 am while trying to sleep soooooooo I wasn't sure these were any good until my gf told me I should post them XD. Some characters in the MTMTE/LL section are vaguely inspired by thier Gen 1 counterparts (Jazz and Blaster) cuz that's where Im most familiar with them but I didn't wanna do a whole nother cintinuity for only two characters jfjdjdjs bear with me, I'm new to this fhdjdjd
TFP:
Wheeljack- He's probs a lot more into it than she would have expected, ngl. Would probably make a comment about not minding being called daddy or calling her baby girl~ (he would promptly get a wrench thrown at him by Ratchet, and Nikki would get told to change lol)
Ratchet- crochety old man won't say anything unless wheeljack makes it "weird". Probably gets a bit tense anytime Nikki calls him dad, just waiting for her to call him daddy XD He's decently familiar with the kink from all the accidental wrong clicks on the internet and probably some what he considers awkward conversations with Nikki after some mentions of kinks with her older friends that he had questions about (he also wonders why she's so knowledgable on the topic, but will not ask)
KO- Let's be honest, KO likely knows more about what this means than the other cons listed, and he would flirt and push buttons r e l e n t l e s s l y, you can't change my mind. Absolutely makes Nikki think wearing these clothes is a mistake, and i wouldn't put it past him to purr "want Daddy to help?" When she mutters that she's going to go change.
BD- He does not know what it means and is, frankly, confused. Until KO tells him, then he's a little too flustered to say anything about it. KO either persuades Nikki to call BD daddy, or BD to call her Baby girl, either way the addressed party gets waaaaaaay too flustered to function lol
Starscream- you know, knowing this con he would probably say she's disgusting and then get off to it later lmao. Either that, or relentlessly tease her about it. Or both. Both is good o3o. Call her a disgusting little thing and watch her get bith flustered and annoyed.
MTMTE/LL:
Mkay, have to do Ultra Magnus- he either knows what it means and reprimands nikki for it or finds out what it means and reprimands her for it. Double trouble if she jokingly asks him if she did something wrong like "Did I do something wrong, Daddy?" (jokingly, of course pfffffft)
Rodimus- I know this horny bitch knows what this means, and I can see him being quite enthusiastic about making that known. He'll start out asking about what's up with the new clothes, to which she'll shrug. If there aren't many others around, he'll probably offer her a seat on daddy's lap while he works. (Legit, tho, so much of the smut for this guy takes place at his desk/in his captain chair lmao)
Tailgate- He knows what it means (he's friends with the Earth-savvy Swerve, don't try to tell me I'm wrong), but he won't let on that he knows. He'll play it innocent for a little while until the obliviousness that is Nikki catches on that this sweet bean isn't as innocent as he seems. Walking along with her "jokingly" calling her baby girl, maybe standing a bit too close. A servo staying around her waist for longer than is normal. But this is Tailgate, no way this can get weird! Until he leans in and asks if she'd be interested in servicing /two/ daddies tonight. Then she chokes on her drink.
Cyclonus- He was not initially involved with Tailgate's mentioned shenanigans. Honestly, he's flustered just knowing that Tailgate went through with the plan he'd mentioned upon seeing Nikki in the outfit. Even more so that it worked
Ratchet- It's weird that she wears that and calls him dad, right? At least a little? Probably similar to tfp Ratchet's reaction, but minus the wheeljack part lol (heck, replace Jackie with Drift or Rodimus in this scenario. Drift would tease him about hos "daughter" having a daddy kink, and Rodimus would likely prattle about his own fantasies maybe a lil too loud too close to the doc bot).
Swerve- ah, yes the Earth and human obsessed boi himself. He knows, he knows what the phrases on the clothing means, but he keeps getting far too flustered to say anything, and if he does try to say something he babbles rapidly around the subject. All in all, mission "hit on the human" ultimately failed.
Drift- I can very much see him more teasing Ratchet about it than anything, cuz that old bot is clearly a bit flustered by his "daughter's" choice in clothing.
Blaster- Blaster has spent a good amount of time on Earth, knew Nikki back there, too. He is very familiar with what her outfit is referencing and is NOT shy about it. He would openly flirt whether there's other bots around or not, but he knows how anxious his favorite little human can get and keeps it on the down-low if they aren't alone. He will defo turn up the charm around her other favorite music boi, though, and likely try to talk them both into a lil somethin ;)
I threw Jazz in the mix cuz I could- Jazz, like Blaster, spent a lot of time on Earth and with Nikki before all this and is very familiar with the daddy stuff. Depending on how busy he is/what kind of mood he's in, he is very likely to accept whatever it is Blaster suggests (as long as Nikki agrees to it, too, of course). If he is too busy, though, he will definitely get back with them when his work is done.
Whirl- he isn't going to shut up once he figures out what all this "yes, daddy/baby girl" stuff is about. Will. Not. Tbh, it probably wont just be with her, though, he will likely tell others to call him daddy, or call some of the bigger bots like UM daddy lmaoooo
We shall see about adding others...
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sparkmender · 4 years
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THE POSITIVE & NEGATIVE: MUN & MUSE
Fill out & Repost ♥ This meme definitely favors Canons more, but I hope OC's still can make it somehow work with their own lore and Lil’ fandom of friends & mutuals. Multimuses pick the muse you are the most invested in atm.
Tagged by: @ifthearmorfits -- thank you opo!!
MY MUSE IS.   canon / oc / au (...in-canon au, because transformers) / canon-divergent / fandomless
(I will be getting into spoiler territory with this, but given that you all are following this blog, you’ve probably stuck around long enough to already see what’s up haha.)
is your character popular in the fandom?  YES / NO.
is your character considered hot™ in the fandom?  WELL… / NO / IDK. (evidently a lot of people have it bad for the nerd but I don’t do NSFW on tumblr, so lol)
is your character considered strong in the fandom?  YES / NO / IDK.
are they underrated?  YES / NO.
were they relevant to the main story?  YES / NO.
were they relevant to the main character?  YES / NO.
are they widely known in their world?  YES / NO.
how’s their reputation?  GOOD / BAD / NEUTRAL. (Given Rung’s quantum forgotten status WHO KNOWS)
HOW STRICTLY DO YOU FOLLOW CANON?
Putting it bluntly: Functionist alt. dimension Rung has a whole lot of plot holes. Swiss cheese boy. I’ve made liberal changes here and there so that he can play with a majority of muses in the MTMTE/LL community, but I’ve also taken a lot of free reign giving Rung’s general lack of backstory in-between spoiler/plot beats :P
SELL YOUR MUSE! (aka try to list everything, which makes your muse interesting in your opinion to make them spicy for your mutual.)
Rung is a very rare type of character, being an ostensibly ‘masculine’ character (in regards of a human binary lens) who prides himself on empathy, understanding, and caring for others’ physical and mental wellbeing in ways that often linger in more ‘feminine’ realms (again, in approx. to the human binary); it interests me to be able to explore such concepts in a territory where, considering lore and implied history, there’s no societal concept of (human ideal culturally-imposed) gender. He’s a creator ‘deity’, he literally produces souls, but nothing about his design is meant to emphasize a human sense of reproduction/fertility/etc. Most people would never look at him and conclude who and what he is. There’s also the fact that he’s been methodically documented, experimented on, taken apart, and then tortured for approx. 2 million years and yet he refused to let that break him. Rung is unflinchingly kind, willing to reach a hand out to anyone who needs a shoulder to lean on even when he has nothing of his own to offer. Hell, he studied medicine and philosophy so he could build the foundations for the Cybertronian method of behavioral psychology because even without memories of being Primus, Rung wants to take care of his creations. ...And then you add in how absolutely adorable it is to watch this old man dodder about with his puzzles and models and big googly glasses and I love him so much okay--
NOW THE OPPOSITE! (list everything why your muse could not be so interesting (even if you may not agree, what does the fandom perhaps think?)
To be honest, Rung can be kind of a Mary Sue/over powered character in some people’s eyes. Like, what, this random character who’s new to the franchise and made specifically by the author is actually Transformers God who suffered amnesia? And is friendly and polite to everyone but also has a streak of keeping a grudge and survives literal untold horrors because his body can just heal itself?? And he spits out crystals that make up sparks??? OH AND HE’S MILLIONS OF YEARS OLD AND DID I MENTION HE’S GOD SOMEHOW AND THEN HE STRAIGHT UP JUST DIES TWICE IN CANON, WOW
WHAT INSPIRED YOU TO RP YOUR MUSE?
H,,,, Him round,,,,,,,, No really I just loved his design that much. Him round. Also both my mom and my granddad are shrinks so I have, like, a basic grasp on psych stuff after reading through their textbooks and watching my granddad’s old research films and study tapes, so it was familiar territory I settled on writing Functionist!Rung in specific because I sympathize with having weird + painful medical shit inflicted on you all the time and because the idea of someone so genuine and careful being the core of a revolutionary movement is really,,, makes my heart squeeze.
WHAT KEEPS YOUR INSPIRATION GOING?  
hell if I know I’m just kinda here forever lmao
SOME MORE PERSONAL QUESTIONS FOR THE MUN.
do you think you give your character justice?  YES / NO. needs more weird eldritch tech woogies but I’m terrified of alienating people
do you frequently write headcanons?  YES / NO. (mostly as they get yoinked by the fandom at large and then my notifications break my phone)
do you sometimes write drabbles? YES / NO.  
do you think a lot about your muse during the day? YES (to an extent because I write a lot of different muses and I’m constantly making/doing/playing something to keep my hands busy, so it’s inevitable) / NO.
are you confident in your portrayal?   YES / NO.
are you confident in your writing?  YES / NO.
are you a sensitive person?  YES / NO.
DO YOU ACCEPT CRITICISM WELL ABOUT YOUR PORTRAYAL?
Criticism is the best way to grow as a creator, tbh, but I will say I think the biggest complaint is just how goddamn slow + forgetful I am hahaha,,
DO YOU LIKE QUESTIONS, WHICH HELP YOU EXPLORE YOUR CHARACTER?  
Sure! I have a tags specifically for weird Cybertronian biology quirks and for Rung just rambling about things, and it’s fun to get to reveal bits and pieces of the backstory I’ve created for him.
IF SOMEONE DISAGREES TO A HEADCANON OF YOURS, DO YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY?  
........I mean lmao you can tell me why you disagree but at the end of the day this is my personal portrayal of a specific version of a character who only shows up for like three issues of a 70+ issue long comic series.
IF SOMEONE DISAGREES WITH YOUR PORTRAYAL, HOW WOULD YOU TAKE IT?
There are several other fantastic Rung writers out there each with their own interpretations and understandings of the character, so like. Godspeed. Go, find the god your heart desires, and whatnot.
IF SOMEONE REALLY HATES YOUR CHARACTER, HOW DO YOU TAKE IT?
Do you hate my portrayal of Rung, or just Rung in general?? I know a few people who just straight up dislike any version of Rung at all, so there’s that.
ARE YOU OKAY WITH PEOPLE POINTING OUT YOUR GRAMMATICAL ERRORS?  
English hard, hebrew and yiddish and spanish and romanian and german only. More seriously I was raised in an extremely weird house where English was the primary language but I was being taught by older people who never remembered which language they were using at the time. My first word was Mickey Mouse. I don’t know what’s happening. I went to art college. Please be gentle with me, sir.
DO YOU THINK YOU ARE EASY GOING AS A MUN?  
Oh most likely. There’s only like... one or two things I will go out of my way to discourage or avoid + I’m generally just kinda here to make other people happy haha
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transformersvn · 4 years
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Thoughts on Transformers: War For Cybertron - Siege
General conclusion: Very pretty, though the writing isn't fantastic. I had fun with it. If you're a Transformers fan (and if you’re on this blog you probably are), you'll probably enjoy it. If not, you might have some trouble knowing who's who, but you should still enjoy the visuals.
(Coming at this from a background of mostly TFP and MTMTE/LL.)
Under a cut because this got long. Going through The Good, The Bad, and The Spoilers.
The Good:
It's really pretty. There's an almost claymation quality to the animation and I really like the heavily scratched but polished look everyone has. The lighting is really well done too.
With a few exceptions (coughProwlcough) the G1 character designs work pretty well.
For some reason, I find Shockwave tapping on his datapad with his gun-arm very funny.
The voice acting is mostly good. Megatron's good, and I have to give Starscream and Wheeljack credit for actually putting a voice on rather than sounding like generic Autobot #3.
I liked their approach to Starscream. And Ratchet's backstory is a bit more interesting than just "the medic".
If you're a G1 fan, there's a good chance you'll see your favourite character at some point.
There are a lot of nods to Transformers lore.
Megatron's propaganda moments were pretty well done (and his portraits were amazingly ridiculous).
Megastar shippers will be happy.
The Bad:
There are a *lot* of characters, very few who are named clearly. I'm coming to this from knowing a lot about Transformers and I'm still struggling with the 2nd-3rd tier characters at times. I can make a guess and it's usually right, but I think a newcomer would have a hard time of it - especially given all the palette-swapping.
The writing is pretty mediocre. The plot makes very little sense and everyone's kinda trope-y. At least once it sounded like Optimus disagreed with himself during one conversation, but it turned out he was making a weird reply to Elita.
Speaking of Optimus, his voice actor isn't the best. It's a very Batman-y take on Optimus and it's plagued with weird pauses in his speech that muddy his meaning. Not helped by his vague motivations.
Ultra Magnus. Just, Ultra Magnus. I can accept him making poor choices (ones that are kinda justified in fairness), but he doesn't follow through in any meaningful way. Then his arc makes even less sense as the series unfolds. Plus, he didn't quote a regulation once - if you can shoehorn in Soundwave saying "inferior", why not have Magnus do what he's well-known for doing? It's worse than Shockwave not getting to say "logical".
The fight scenes are a bit confusing at times, weird cutting mostly.
Can we stop coding the Decepticons black? Please? The former-slaves-who-rose-up-but-then-grasped-power-and-turned-evil narrative is pretty uncomfortable these days. Yes, I know this is coming from a cartoon in the '80s, but there's only so far you can mitigate things with Optimus's stance on revolution.
It could've used a few more episodes to let things breathe and maybe show some of the consequences of Decepticon and Autobot choices.
The Spoilers:
If you'd lined up the main Decepticons and asked me which one was going to switch sides, I wouldn't have needed previous knowledge of SkyJetfire to know who it was going to be. It's a bit bad when you colour-code their optics, even if it is staying true to G1.
Speaking of Jetfire, someone needs to slap the word "honour" out of writers' hands until they can figure out what they're actually trying to say. The only reason Ultra Magnus didn't shoot Megatron in the back when given a chance should've been because he still thought there was a way to reason with Megatron, *not* because his honour couldn't allow him to shoot someone in the back.
People "die" offscreen way too often only to reappear and have other people surprised. How durable are Cybertronians? It's a bit plot-armour-y and the Decepticons have quite a bit of generic mook stupidity that's a bit frustrating when they fail to check bodies. And even when they do and find Impactor's arm, he's still alive? But Skywarp didn't survive despite being good to fly for a while after being shot?
My goodness, who could this mysterious cloaked stranger with Ultra Magnus's distinctive shoulders be? Ultra Magnus?!?! I never would've guessed.
If Ultra Magnus had the Alpha Trion Protocols and *still* ended up doing a wishy-washy surrender (it could've been so much better if he'd actually had any kind of leverage against Megatron and truly attempted a peace treaty, but it ultimately felt like a drawn-out suicide by warlord) what's to say that him passing on the Protocols to anyone else would work better? Why would Optimus listen any better to someone new?
(I would've liked it if Bumblebee had kept the Protocols and then they could've leant towards Hot Rod showing up to get passed the Matrix of Leadership too, get a new generation of people who can actually make use of the things and not spend their time waffling about faith.)
Optimus is such a bad leader. I don't think I can stress this enough. Especially when you've got Megatron on the other side who's mostly decisive (if evil) and it's clearly working for him. Optimus feels very impulsive and always falls back to "just have faith in me" when he can't find a good reason for what he's doing. I shouldn't come out of this thinking that if I was in Megatron's position of having to work with Optimus Prime and Ultra Magnus during the initial revolution, then I would've snapped too.
Optimus's decision with the Allspark made so little sense. Yes, keep it out of Megatron's hands, but it seemed highly likely that he was going to kill *everyone* left on Cybertron with his stunt. How is that better?
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Hey, if your open to it
Anything with Brainstorm from mtmte. It's criminal how little fanfiction there is of this little shit.
It could be romantic, like Buddy is just pining, and Brainstorm is just oblivious until someone points it out.
It could be familial, like Buddy is Brainstorm's sibling.
Or just some good ol platonic shit, just two chaotic idiots being pals.
We just need more of this mad scientist fuck and in this Ted talk I will-
I have been waiting to get to this one for a while! You're right too about Brainstorm not having too much content out there. It was hard trying to choose just one of the options so by the power of random finger pointing, we got the prompt.
Hope you enjoy!
Brainstorm having Twin sibling
SFW, platonic, familial, Cybertronian/ Bot reader, injuries mentioned
MTMTE/LL
Buddy’s alt-mode is a car, and they have a book nerd personality.
Comparing Buddy to Brainstorm was one of the funnier things to do.
Brainstorm the ever-talented scientist.
Buddy the archivist.
To totally different fields of work and yet they made things work. Brainstorm wasn’t too experienced in Buddy’s field and Buddy wasn’t too into the science field despite Brainstorm trying multiple times to get them into it. Buddy just didn’t seem to have the science touch like Brainstorm did.
“What do I do now Brainstorm?”--Buddy
“See that green wire?”--Brainstorm
“Yeah.” --Buddy
Snip
“Don’t cut that one.”--Brainstorm
“…What happens if I do, in a hypothetical situation?”--Buddy
“Then I suggest you run in the opposite direction NOW!”--Brainstorm
The war was already on its way when the two were around. While Brainstorm opted to become a triple agent, Buddy saw fit in communications and records sectors.
“I still don’t understand why you can’t move stations. Its such a pain to travel between stations and breaks are way too short!”--Brainstorm
“Stormy, I love you and all but you’re forgetting some key facts.”--Buddy
“What?”--Brainstorm
“One, I don’t belong in the science branch, especially nowhere near Project Solar storm.”--Buddy
“True I guess…”--Brainstorm
“And the second reason, I need to do my job Stormy. These messages aren’t going to deliver themselves.”--Buddy
“…”--Brainstorm
“Stop frowning Brainstorm. I always come back on time.”--Buddy
“I’m not frowning. You can’t even tell, I have the mask on!”--Brainstorm
“Stormy, I know when you have the frowny face.”--Buddy
Buddy is one of the few bots that can see through his façade in an instance. They also developed a sixth sense where they can tell if Brainstorm was making a new and possible dangerous invention. Which was almost every time.
Brainstorm putting together a highly unstable and dangerous weapon.
Ping!
Brainstorm answers his comm.
“Hello?”--Brainstorm
“Don’t. Even. Think about it Brainstorm.”--Buddy
“What—”--Brainstorm
“I know what you’re doing is probably not sanctioned, so drop it.”--Buddy
“…buzz kill…”--Brainstorm
“What was that?”--Buddy
“Love you too Buddy!”--Brainstorm
Brainstorm himself wanted to know if this was some sort of outlier ability.
“Brainstorm I swear—stick that prod into my joints ONE MORE TIME!”--Buddy
“This would be easier if you would just stay still!”--Brainstorm
“NO!”--Buddy
It wasn’t.
Brainstorm is constantly asking for Buddy whenever he has free time. It’s already bad enough that Buddy can’t be with him all the time, but they have a completely different schedule than he does and work so far away.
He hates having so much distance between them.
It’s a couple more years of these short communications when all lines go dead. Brainstorm was panicking inside. Buddy designation gets added on the MIA list after the sector had been ambushed by a Decepticon attack.
Brainstorm went on to create the Buddy finding machine. A machine that would detect where Buddy was nearby
“C’mon, c’mon, c’mon! Work you machine!”--Brainstorm
“Results: No Buddy.”
“AAARRRRGGHHHHH!”--Brainstorm
Time skip after the time travel incident.
Brainstorm was recovering from everything.
From the trial.
From Quark.
From Buddy.
He made a detour while doing his time travel mess to at least see Buddy one more time in case he accidentally erased himself from existence. He was so tempted in reaching out for Buddy and to warn them of their fate… but he ultimately knew they wouldn’t have wanted that.
He let them go.
But things were getting better. The crew had stopped at a nearby planet after receiving a distress signal.
The ship was buzzing with noise when the crew came back and with someone with them.
“What’s going on?”--Brainstorm
“The away group came back with an injured bot.”--Nightbeat
“Oh?”--Brainstorm
“Yeah, heard the poor bot’s legs where chewed off.”--Skids
“Chewed off?”--Brainstorm
Brainstorm tried to see them but the crowd was too thick and opted in seeing the visitor later. Brainstorm was going back the lab as the crowd dispersed.
He didn’t make it far as Chromedome was hot on his tailpipe.
“Brainstorm! Brainstorm slow down!”--Chromedome
“Chromdome? What are—HEY!”--Brainstorm
“No time to explain! You’ll thank me later!”--Chromedome
He just grabbed his hand and went to the med bay.
“Chromdome what happened?! Is it Rewind?”--Brainstorm
“Domey! You guys are here!”--Rewind
“Guess not. Wait is it Perceptor? Is he hurt?!”--Brainstorm
“Why would I be hurt?”--Perceptor
“PERCY! You can’t just scare a bot like that!”--Brainstorm
“My apologies. Chromedome, does he know?”—Perceptor
“Do I know what?”--Brainstorm
“Not yet, I just hauled him over here. Kind of wanted to surprise him.”--Chromedome
“Surprise me?”--Brainstorm
“Well Nautica has been keeping them company since they came back online.”--Rewind
“Who came back online?”--Brainstorm
“Should we leave when he sees them?”--Rewind
“No, anyways he might faint, someone needs to catch him.”--Chromedome
“I am standing right here! And why in Primus’s name would I faint? Who’s with Nautica? Who came back online?”--Brainstorm
“I spoke with First Aid—”--Perecptor
“WILL SOMEONE PLEASE--!”--Brainstorm
“We’re clear! Good luck Brainstorm!”--Rewind
“… sometimes I wonder why you are my best friend.”--Brainstorm
“Same here now go.”--Chromedome
Brainstorm shrugged the animosity and walked in half expecting Ratchet to throw a wrench in his faceplate after he used the anti-gravity gun on Ambulon last week. And to be on the record that was on voluntary grounds, sure he didn’t explain that this was only his third time testing it and how was he supposed to know he’d be stuck in alt mode too?
He heard giggling and some hushed whispers; he went to find the source to find Nautica and some other bot on the med bay chatting away.
“And as an apology, Brainstorm gave me this multi-purpose wrench!”--Nautica
“You have to show me the button though.”--Bot
“Of course—Oh, look who’s here!”--Nautica
The bot in question spots him and goes quiet, Nautica took notice and looked at Brainstorm quickly moving out of the way so he could have a full view of the bot.
The bot was all scratched up, in desperate need of a new paint job, two legs missing and had a huge dent on the left side of their helm.
“Hey Brainstorm.”--Bot
“…Ummm… Do I know you?”--Brainstorm
He nearly regretted saying that after seeing the crushed look on their faceplate. Nautica and Chromdome were ready to knock some literal sensing into him.
“So… how that data pad of random poems going?”--Buddy
“What did you say?...”—Brainstorm
“The data pad of all the random poems? You know?”--Buddy
“…Buddy?”--Brainstorm
 “We were reading them every other cycle?”--Buddy
“Buddy?”--Brainstorm
 Wait, did you throw it away? I told you—”--Buddy
“BUDDY!”—Brainstorm
Brainstorm is hit by the reality brick when he realizes the bot was Buddy.
He squeals and practically jumps on top of them trapping them in a fierce hug that was sure to cause more dents.
He’d suffer Ratchet’s wrath later; he was sobbing up a storm as Buddy reciprocated the hug.
The others took this moment as a time to leave.
Brainstorm did in fact suffer Ratchet’s wrath later.
Brainstorm tried to scold Buddy in going on the mission, but he stops and begins asking where in Primus’s name where they this whole time.
As it turned out Buddy had managed to escape the ambush because they left the base a few minutes earlier. Why did they do it? They don’t know but they were glad they did.
After that they just ended up on the run after a few drones managed to find them. Buddy managed to run fast enough to make it to a jump ship and randomly punched in some coordinates before the rest caught up to them.
The ship then crashed into the planet below which conveniently knocked them into a stasis pod which only now reopened after a few rouge Insecticons began tearing the wreckage apart and one was very interested in their pedes and took them.
Brainstorm makes a mental note to find the Insecticon later. Brainstorm then gets Buddy up to speed with other things going on with the ship as Nautica gave them a brief rundown.
He wants to make Buddy’s new legs with built in guns.
Ratchet and most of everyone on board says otherwise. Brainstorm is glued to Buddy’s side during and after recovery.
He refuses to leave their side at all.
Buddy has to put up some boundaries to keep him from doing more dramatic things.
Aka blackmail.
Primus forbids someone having a crush on Buddy, brainstorm already has a questionnaire and 4 exams for them to complete for them to even begin to think about dating.
“Oh, you think you can just have them?”--Brainstorm
“Umm… yes?”—Random Bot
“Well, if your miniscule processor can get through these measly exams, then maybe you’ll have a chance with them.”--Brainstorm
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for so long I have felt like a weirdo for thinking that the jro pregnancy stuff is deeply unhorny. but I am going to say it now: it's only horny in the way that the alien franchise is horny: there are definitely people who are horny about it, but it's primarily about the non-sexy aspects of pregnancy. i get that it's a funny joke but a non-insignificant people genuinely act like it's "the writer's barely disguised fetish". birth is weird and scary and fascinating, even more so in robots. im probably more defensive about this than I should be but it's kind of upsetting to me that this is where the discussion always ends
I'll put this under a cut so as not to spam anyone's dash bc yeah I went off on this ask haha (positive).
I actually felt so insane about this very topic I ran a damn poll on my NSFW sideblog and the thing is: the majority of folks voting agreed no, it's not inherently, textually horny. (I would know; I know horny when I see it, ffs!) Which vindicated me! Because I agree it's so ridiculous a thing to unironically, sincerely insist is super horny, given the text, lmao.
Like, it's extremely obsessed with pregnancy, but this is not the same as 'a fetish', and tbqh I think the 'fetish' joke just shields any actually interesting discussion of what it's doing. I think the Alien comparison here is actually really telling; it's absolutely a visceral thing, a thing concerned with the body and how it functions, sometimes against our will. And it's not unconnected to sexuality or eroticism in how those things are discussed more broadly, in the sense it's talking about a thing that intersects with those elements in the abstract, but it's not. Like. It's not a "fetish" thing, and if the characters it involved weren't referred to as 'he' in text I think less people would be calling it that, and actually it kinda sucks that every time I bring it up I have to block people who see 'pregnancy mentioned' on my completely sfw posts as an excuse to go off on their personal fetishes in detail, or their desire to speculate on the imagined fetishes of the writer in equally graphic detail. (BTW, it's genuinely uncomfortable seeing people obsessively speculate on the imagined fetishes of a creator, I think. We should all do that a little less in public.)
I mean not to be a total killjoy or anything but like... treating pregnancy in itself, even in the most abstract way, as inherently fetishistic and inappropriate (the people reblogging my innocuous posts about pregnancy metaphors with fucking trigger warnings! 'mpreg trigger warning' being a normalized way to tag pictures that are just Trans Dude Who Is Pregnant!) is uh. I mean we live in a world where pregnant people are often massively marginalized by society period, and seen as somehow inappropriate for public life, and especially anyone who is remotely GNC. Like the idea that something is inherently obscene about a pregnant person is, shall we say, not apolitical. It is in fact a thing that people actually have to fight against in real life. I mean. Fandom doing this to a text that in fact is most notable for treating pregnancy weirdly neutrally in these terms is... frustrating! I think we all lose out when we refuse to engage with weird, funny texts that have things to say about these topics that fall outside our expected frameworks, like, say, 'this is A Fetish TM'. That's limiting! If we want to talk about what IDW1 phase two does with gender, we cannot do that properly if every time we talk about MTMTE we get weird about it doing sexless genderfree pregnancy metaphors, and instead make them funny mpreg jokes, tbh! IDK! Seems counter intuitive! And I genuinely think MTMTE/LL's bizarre approach to the thing is so interesting precisely because it's so odd and offputting. What if we actually examined it. I think we can find some good stuff in there, frankly.
And truly the especially frustrating thing is that the comic itself, for all it is objectively weird and hilarious and 'why the fuck is this even HERE' about it... is just never that. Like. I posted those excerpts because it IS weird and it IS wild and it IS quite funny in its way! It's alien robot body horror in a kids' cartoon franchise turned to an unexpected end! But you know what it actually manages, somehow, to never be? One: weird and misogynist about pregnancy. Two: weird and transphobic about it involving vaguely, ostensibly 'male' characters. Make all the mpreg jokes you want I guess, but MTMTE is many bizarre things but it never gives one single shit about the gender binary, and tbh I think it's genuinely kind of embarrassing the fandom saw a comic that did insane robot body horror pregnancy shit and was like. Okay well. But the mpreg tho.
Like. I've joked for years that I want to do a transmasc read of the pregnancy stuff Roberts did in TF seriously, same as I think a transmasc read of how Alien presents fears around "male pregnancy" in a trans context would be great. And for all my jokes, I genuinely would, actually. I think it's legit very interesting how Roberts manages to divorce the presentation of horror of pregnancy from gender in a way that mitigates the gendered subtext somewhat and gets at the loss of autonomy in a broader sense.
anyway it truly sucks that fandom is so fucking shitty about this. to give a little extra context, i talk about a particular transmasc humanformer AU sometimes that involves pregnancy and. i have had to Delete Some Fucking Asks about that thing, which. well that happens in normal regular real life and people talk about it like a fanfic trope (derogatory). so. i am a little sensitive to people getting Like This about the topic, aha.
sorry i went off on one anon, can you tell. i also find this frustrating. i relate. i am totally with you. god it would be so much less interesting to read it as horny so like, why is this the ONLY MODE we seem to have tbh
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About LL: Being French, TF comics are not available in my country so I had to buy them online. Everyone seemed to love it and I decided to give it a go, even if digital is not my cup of tea. I DID NOT REGRET IT. The evolution of the characters really touched me (one example being Cyclonus and Whirl, first enemies, then friends at the end) and everyone had their flaws but also qualities, making them sympathetic, relatable and "human", one may say. It really was a roller coaster of emotions. (1)
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Like I sorta understand why some people would be uncomfortable about it, cus it’s, y’know... an uncomfortable topic to talk about whether a man who has been responsible for so much death and destruction, even if it was in the name of good, deserves to live. (It also helps that he is fictional... To some people this seems like a way to excuse horrible things, though thats a discussion i have had many times and I’d rather not have it again lol)
Tbh I think most people look at his redemption arc from the wrong angle. Redemption doesn’t always mean that a character may clean their conscience by reversing their crimes, in fact that’s definitely not what redemption arcs are really about... It’s about the hard and perilous journey of changing yourself for the better, even if what you have done was terrible, because what is done is, unfortunately, done. (A good example of this is Prince Zuko from atla)
Megatron did try and redeem himself, and he did okay imo... He didn’t think so, though, even at the very end of LL, and by then he had probably saved as many lives as he had destroyed, even making his iconic cannon into a med kit.
Furthermore, MTMTE/LL didn’t really focus on politics as much as ExRiD did. It focused more on mental health, character relationships and growth, which is seen in all of the characters, from prominent characters of the main cast like Whirl and Cyclonus, which you mentioned, and some that showed up a bit less like Fort Max, who overcame his horrible PTSD and became friends with Decepticons who he would have not hesitated to tear apart with his bare hands in the start of MTMTE. I find it useless to try and view MTMTE/LL as something political, because it only uses politics as a means to tell the emotional story Jro is telling. Like spice in a dish.
I also like to mention this because I don’t see a lot of people point this out: While Megatron most absolutely definitely was responsible for the war and many trillions of deaths... No one of the survivors of that very war wasn’t a murderer. Even the most wholesome of Autobots have killed, which is pointed out when the crew meets the Necrobot.
It’s weird, really, because Drift goes through a redemption arc as well, but no one really bothers to mention that either... He used to be a notorious Decepticon known for being unreasonably murderous even for Decepticon standards. Yet by the end of LL, he has found himself and after a lot of ups and downs he has found a balance (and a husband)
And that’s just Drift. It’s worth mentioning a lot of prominent characters started out as bad people, like Whirl, Cyclonus and The Scavengers (remember when they made a campfire of an Autobot that was still alive and then shot him dead? Yeah what the fuck james roberts). Rodimus is seen making a game out of murdering enemies with Drift, for godssakes.
In the end is about how much things like this appeal to you and what content you can stomach. I, for one, can’t stand gory live action horror and don’t want to watch it. I suppose in the same way some people can’t stomach Megatron’s redemption arc for their own reasons, and that’s alright. They don’t have to like it, but they definitely aren’t allowed to try and make themselves look morally superior by shitting on people who love Megatron’s redemption arc, and that’s that on that.
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As the undefeated world champion MTMTE Megatron Roaster, how do you think you would portray an actually good Megatron redemption? Besides the obvious getting rid of Jim Bob’s Nazi imagery and such.
thank you for giving me such a lofty title! and this is a great question! i think it deserves a thought-out response, so sit tight
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first things first yeah, getting ready of the heavy-handed imagery. it’s not my lane to allude to the holocaust and it certainly isn’t james roberts’
the cack-handed allusion to jo cox in the mutineers arc legitimately makes my blood boil
-let the readership come to their own conclusions
one thing the narrative of more than losts the light was pretty guilty of was insisting you liked megatron and his character arc, and very subtly throwing shade at you if you didn’t
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i think the optimus prime series handled this kind of thing pretty well by acknowledging upfront that optimus prime was a complex character and embracing multiple interpretations of him, positive and negative. that story invites you to come to your own conclusions about him, and importantly doesn’t actively compare you to a skeevoid brexiteer if you don’t
like, at the mtmte 50 signing jro compared that issue to an episode of community where it turns out all the background characters can’t stand the main cast. thing is, the Bit in that kind of episode is that the background cast are justified in not liking the main cast, because the kind of people who make up the cast of a sitcom would be absolute assholes in real life
the comic seems to not understand that, and presents the background characters (the sole dissenting opinion in the story) as this single amorphous blob of assorted irrational shitheads, led by a guy who canonically groomed one of the main cast and rattles off tory catchphrases like it’s his job 
i think a good megatron redeption arc would have to accept that there are some people who will never accept his redemption, in-universe and in the readership, and work that into the story instead of complaining about it
-make megatron the core of the story without making the story about him
one thing that really grated me about season 2 of mtmte and lost light was that the great ensemble cast found family of season 1 was more or less ignored to make room for Robot Atrocity Morrissey and his manpain. like, there were so many interesting character dynamics that could have been explored that just got thrown aside because we needed to see a mass-murderer look sad and rattle off poetry for a few more pages
characters DIED and we didn’t get any time to explore them because we needed to see That One Dude In Your English Class Who Has More Of A Statement Than A Question But A Robot shove his head up his interdimensional portal ass some more!!!
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again, i think some lessons could be taken from the optimus prime comic, as well as elegant chaos, which i maintain is the absolute peak of mtmte/ll. 
in the optimus prime comic, optimus prime isn’t the moral core or the protagonist of the story- rather, he’s the discussion point around which the other characters in the story are able to develop. it’s a story ABOUT optimus, not the story OF optimus. i think using megatron as a springboard to develop other characters would have been a better use of the ensemble cast of mtmte, and would have actively_ used_ one of the main strengths of the series rather than working against it
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elegant chaos does the same thing! this is a story about a character going back in time to kill megatron, but the narrative space of Autobot Megatron is instead used to give the characters we know and love additional depth. you did it SO WELL this one time, james!!! why couldn’t the rest of it have been like that!!!!!!!
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EATS THIS SHIT UP WITH MY HANDS AND MOUTH!!!!!
-more focused theming
one of the strengths of mtmte season 1 imo is that despite the varied ensemble cast, there was a pretty clear and focused story with consistent themes.
for example, broadly speaking the Theme of mmtmte s1 was emotional honesty and the personae we put on to hide parts of ourselves-rodimus, drift, cyclonus, whirl, swerve, tailgate, brainstorm, etc, all their arcs resolved around this general question. 
 this focus gave reveals and moments additional weight and changed the way we viewed this principle guiding question, and in turn the story as a whole
issue 15? rewind's final message? a beautifully crafted moment,but one with a particular emotional power due to how it cuts to the core of the narrative and the questions it asks, both about its cast and about its audience. that "I love you" speaks directly to the heart of the story 
going back to megatron, with mtmte s2 and ll i couldn’t really pick up on what story the comic wanted to tell me. was it about atonement? because there were plenty of avenues to tie into that theme (developing characters like chromedome, or whirl, or i don’t know RODIMUS PERHAPS JAMES ROBERTS) that didn’t get used, and megatron certainly didn’t atone for shit. was it about violence? because the whole final act of dying of the light was megatron going hog fucking wild with violence without consequences
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the ending of dotl, with megatron’s brutal unmasking of tarn, implies the Theme is "violent people dress their ideologies in grand narratives to disguise and justify their cruelty" but that doesn’t track because megatron doesn’t change his behaviour at all, and the narrative doesn’t mention how megatron has done and is still doing the exact thing he condemns tarn for doing
this unfocused storytelling also means the shock reveals don’t have the same impact that they do in season 1. things like minimus ambus and everything about overlord had the punch they did because they directly tied into the theme of emotional honesty, but things like DOMINUS AMBUS IS THE PET AND AGENT 113 or TARN IS GLITCH or THE NECROBOT IS JUST A GUY OH WAIT NO HE’S A GOD AND SO IS RUNG fall flat because they don’t change the way we view the characters or the story, they’re just kinda. there
also doesn’t help that they don’t get any oxygen in the story itself because of the megatron dick vortex
basically, if megatron’s redemtpion tied into an over-arching question or topic in mtmte s2 and directly challenged or answered it, it would have felt more like an organic integration into the story and less like something i have to push out of the way to find the few slivers of character development for the cast i actually give a rat’s cock about
thank you for coming to my ted talk
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[TF Cyberverse] Hot Rod x Technorganic! Reader: The ‘Thing’
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A/N: So, TF fans, who here watches TF Cyberverse? Because your author right here does! I actually watched its first season of it (because at that time, I finished watching TF Prime) and when I heard there’s going to be a second season, I am hooked even more. To be honest, I only watched TF Cyberverse because I had nothing to watch anymore. And I got more into it when I divulge myself with the MTMTE/LL comics (It’s Rodimus’s fault that I found out that he’s Hot Rod before and there’s a Hot Rod in Cyberverse so you know what I mean).
Anyway, so, I wrote this one-shot because I love Hot Rod (I might even do a Cyberverse Soundwave one, too, because I also love him). Before you attempt to read this, please make sure that you have watched at least Episode 3 of Season 2 because there’s a spoiler alert here. Otherwise, you may continue onwards.
Also, just imagine that you’re as the same height as Windblade (Cyberverse) because weird science.
And also, this one-shot is a cheesy one so, yeah.
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“Moon… Cheetah?” you reiterated the same words that Bumblebee was also asking about.
“Yeah. A creature with yellow color and black spots,” Bumblebee clarified.
“I know what a cheetah is, Bee, but telling me that you saw one on the moon is highly impossible. No organic life survives there without a helmet. You’ve seen me wear a helmet even though I’m technically like you.” You crossed your arms.
The Autobot scout ex-vented loudly. “I swear I saw that creature…”
“Hey, (Y/n)!” a familiar exhilarating voice reached your ears.
“Oh, hi, Hot Rod,” you monotonously greeted back.
This flame-colored mech would be more tolerable for you if he wasn’t obviously trifling with you. Everywhere you go, he’s always there. He kept on blabbering random things; no offense, most of them you didn’t enjoy. Still, Hot Rod is a sincere and kind-hearted bot like Bumblebee.
“So, Grimlock’s having a party tonight. I was wondering if, you know, you’ll go?” he asked almost shyly (and you find that rather cute).
“Ummm… I guess so? Well, if Windblade’s going, I guess I’ll go.”
You and Windblade were like the best of friends. She was like a sister you never had. Everytime something bothers you, you share it to her secretly. Recently, you told her about your current predicament regarding Hot Rod. She just laughed on it and told you that Hot Rod probably has a ‘thing’ for you, which you actually believed. (You weren’t even sure if that’s a good or bad thing.)
“Windblade’s going!” Hot Rod assured excitedly.
“Oh. Alright. Then I’m going.”
Hot Rod wanted to squeal and jump for joy, but he remained composed and cool. “That’s great! I’ll see you around then!”
“Hey, Hot Rod,” Bumblebee caught his attention. “You didn’t really see the Moon Cheetah?”
“Moon Cheetah? You mean the creature that you told me that you saw on the moon?” He peered at you and you just shrugged your shoulders. He looked at Bumblebee again. “I was there, Bee, and I didn’t see anything.”
Bumblebee frowned. “Awww. I guess I’ll just have to ask Wheeljack. Thanks, you guys.” He transformed in his vehicle mode and sped off.
“I feel bad for him,” you remarked.
“I think he hit his head onto something. Anyway,” Hot Rod turned to you. “Wanna refuel?”
“Is that a date?” You raised a brow.
Hot Rod was flustered all of a sudden. “What?! N-No! I-I mean… Do you think it is?”
Again, just a shrug of your shoulder and you started walking. Hot Rod ex-vented. He felt his cheek plates warming a little and his rotors starting to spin. He didn’t expect you to confirm one of the biggest questions in relationships.
“You coming?” you called to him.
“U-Uh! Y-Yeah!” He jogged to your side.
***
30 minutes later…
There was a beep on Hot Rod’s communication monitor panel. Optimus Prime appeared on the screen, announcing, “Attention, all Autobots. Until further notice, you must keep your distance from Grimlock. He is currently not stable as according to Wheeljack. For the time being, be careful. Prime out.”
“Strange. What do you think happened to Grimsy?” you asked. (And yes, you and Hot Rod were still hanging out together.)
“Not really sure…”
You then heard metal feet fast running towards your direction. It’s Grimlock!
“Grimsy?!” you reached out.
There was no time to process what was going on as both of you weren’t able to get out of his way. You both got ‘magnetized’ as Hot rod got stuck on the Dinobot’s back strut while you were only beside the former. It was like laying on the berth together.
“Whoa! This is awkward!” Hot Rod was nearly yelling.
You were almost blushing as you shifted your head to the side. Your current positions are indeed embarrassing.
“Grimlock, stop!” You heard Windblade’s voice.
The femme bot activated her wings out and sent a flurry of strong winds through her thrusters. Grimlock, however, was slowly moving forward, not attempting to halt. She was, though, interrupted when she, too, was ‘magnetized’ and got stuck at the Dinobot’s back neck cable.
“Heya, Windblade!” Hot Rod acknowledged her happily despite their current situation. “Going to Grimlock’s party later?”
“I was thinking about it!” she answered nonetheless.
“Heard that, (Y/n)? She’s going!”
“Hey, (Y/n)!” Windblade hailed your presence. “Wow, didn’t think you two are a ‘thing’ now.”
You tried to scowl at her. “No, we’re not! Shut up, Windy!”
“We’re not a ‘thing’ yet? I was hoping we are!” Hot Rod was finally going over his confession.
You could just do a facepalm right now. “Now’s not really the time! How are we getting out of here?”
A radio just came into Hot Rod’s chassis and another one at Windblade’s upper shoulder blade. “I’m not really sure! Hopefully Wheeljack knows!” the red winged femme exclaimed.
A small cube box came onto contact on your upper arm (because you’re still made of metal in the inside). “Really now?!” you irately yelled.
“Remind me why we’re all made of metal?!” Hot Rod bemoaned.
Windblade finally instructed Grimlock to get out of the Ark and the latter couldn’t agree more.
***
A blaring alarm went off: “A BLACK HOLE HAS BEEN DETECTED!”
The gravitational pull of the mini black hole was strong as Grimlock tried to keep moving forward. Hot Rod was finally pulled out of the Dinobot, but he was slowly being dragged by the mini black hole.
“Hot Rod!” You and Windblade desperately reached out.
“(Y/n)! Just so you know, I really like you!”
Your eyes only widened whist Windblade screamed, “No!!!”
***
That was a close call. Optimus saved the day, though you and Windblade were still stuck on Grimlock who was still running nonstop inside a force shield. What’s more shocking is that you two would be stuck with Grimlock for the time being until his hyper energetic self wears off by the next day; much to Windblade’s dismay.
“I guess you’ll be stuck there for a while. So, what about an actual date tomorrow?” Hot Rod hopefully grinned, talking to you while you’re still glued onto a running Grimlock inside a force shield.
“Hot Rod, are you-“
“Oh, come on, (Y/n)! He already confessed! Just say yes!” Windblade chided. She knew you liked the flame-colored mech, too. You just didn’t want to admit it yet until you’re sure that he’s ‘the one’.
“Y-Yes! Tomorrow! You pick me up at Wheeljack’s lab,” you finally said.
“Yes!” Hot Rod cheered as he raised his arms ups. “Finally, (Y/n) and I are a ‘thing’ now!”
“Hey, don’t get too excited! I haven’t said anything yet!” you defended.
Optimus only smiled. Wheeljack guffawed. Bumblebee gave his friend a thumb’s up. Now everyone’s happy.
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