#uncommon gender

[anarchy-flagz]

Papergender Pride Flags

A gender that feels thin and fragile/rippable and smooth like a blank piece of paper. I don’t have an idea for a flag but I imagine white and grey in there somewhere!

Paperboy - A male gender that feels thin, fragile/rippable, and smooth like blank piece of paper.

Papergirl - A female gender that feels thin, fragile/rippable, and smooth like a blank piece of paper.

Paperenby - A nonbinary gender that feels thin, fragile/rippable, and smooth like a piece of paper.

#anarchy-flagz #mogai #lgbt #lgbtq #lgbtqaip #xenogender #xenogenders #uncommon genders #uncommon gender #nonbinary #nb #enby #trans enby #trans #transgender #gender #mogai pride #mogai positivity #mogai community #transgender umbrella #papergender #paperboy #papergirl #paperenby #paper #paper gender

[noperopesaredope]

People really be out here like "don't name your kid stupid crap, they'll live with that name for the rest of their life." And then you'll see all these non-binary bitches naming themselves crazy shit like "Beyblade" because it's their favorite anime. And even when they give themselves "normal" names, it's because it's the same name as one of their favorite characters (it's me, I'm bitches)

#my ass just used my given name (an already uncommon name) #and slammed it together with the name of my favorite musical theatre character #nonbinary #names #character names #weird names #gender fluid #nonbinary memes #lgbt #lgbt pride #lgbtq #lgbtqia #lgbtq community #transgender #trans #trans memes #queer #queer community #queer memes #this isn't hate btw i just think it's funny

[uncanny-tranny]

I wonder if the discontentment some people have with their gender stems from the contradictions in expectation for their gender.

I mentioned this in passing, but as a man, I've found there's this simultaneous expectation to be hyperindependent and hyperindividualistic while also being concerned about if the people around you accept your masculinity or manhood. It's an interesting paradox to both be expected not to care but also to care so deeply that it alters how you see yourself. It's the contradiction of hyperveneration and hyperscrutiny and, even, hatred of manhood.

This isn't even touching on the intricacies of nonbinary and intersex experiences with the way people enforce these (cissexist) contradictions of what you "should" be.

#gender #queer #lgbt #lgbtq #i find it funny to see people critique these ridgid and contradictory ideas of gender with the idea that it proves trans people dont exist #if anything the hyperscrutinization of all gender to the point that trans people 'dont exist' is a symptom of exactly what i mean #at the core it isn't about a set of ideas but more like a set of rules that will be enforced through any means necessary #and in that way trans people often face the brunt of that force #i know i've faced that sort of attitude by general society even *pretransition and pre coming out* #and obviously not all trans people share in that experience but it also is not an uncommon situation to have had #shoutout to my phone for softlocking itself and deleting this original post #see like i'm also not binary (also not nonbinary) but i functionally live as a binary man irl which is why i speak as a man versus as a man+

[keelanrosa]

started reading the cass review because i'm apparently just Like That and i want everybody crowing about how this proves sooooo much about how terfs are right and trans people are wrong to like. take a scientific literacy class or something. or even just read the occasional study besides the one you're currently trying to prove a point with. not even necessarily pro-trans studies just learn how to know what studies actually found as opposed to what people trying to spoonfeed you an agenda claim they found.

to use just one infuriating example:

Several studies from that period (Green et al., 1987; Zucker, 1985) suggested that in a minority (approximately 15%) of pre-pubertal children presenting with gender incongruence, this persisted into adulthood. The majority of these children became same-sex attracted, cisgender adults. These early studies were criticised on the basis that not all the children had a formal diagnosis of gender incongruence or gender dysphoria, but a review of the literature (Ristori & Steensma, 2016) noted that later studies (Drummond et al., 2008; Steensma & Cohen-Kettenis, 2015; Wallien et al., 2008) also found persistence rates of 10-33% in cohorts who had met formal diagnostic criteria at initial assessment, and had longer follow-up periods.

if you recognize the names Zucker and Steensma you are probably already going feral but tldr:

There are… many problems with Zucker's studies, "not all children had a formal diagnosis" is so far down the list this is literally the first i've heard of it. The closest i usually hear is the old DSM criteria for gender identity disorder was totally different from the current DSM criteria for gender dysphoria and/or how most people currently define "transgender"; notably it did not require the patient to identify as a different gender and overall better fits what we currently call "gender-non-comforming". Whether the kids had a formal diagnosis of "maybe trans, maybe just has different hobbies than expected, but either way their parents want them back in their neat little societal boxes" is absolutely not the main issue. This would be a problem even if Zucker was pro-trans (spoiler: He Is Not, and people who are immediately suspicious of pro-trans studies because "they're probably funded by big pharma or someone else who profits from transitioning" should apply at least a little of that suspicion to the guy who made a living running a conversion clinic); sometimes "formal" criteria change as we learn more about what's common, what's uncommon, what's uncommon but irrelevant, etc, and when the criteria changes drastically enough it doesn't make sense to pretend the old studies perfectly apply to the new criteria. If you found a study defining "sex" specifically and exclusively as penetration with a dick which says gay men have as much sex as straight men but lesbians don't, it's not necessarily wrong as far as it goes but if THAT'S your prime citation for "gay men have more sex than lesbians", especially if you keep trying to apply it in contexts which obviously use a broader definition, there are gonna be a lot of people disagreeing with you and it won't be because they're stubbornly unscientific.

Also Zucker is pro conversion therapy. Yes, pro converting trans people to cis people, but also pro converting gay people to straight people. That doesn't necessarily affect his results, i just find it funny how many people enthusiastically support his findings as evidence transitioning is… basically anti-gay conversion therapy? (even though plenty of trans people transition to gay? including T4T people so even the "that's actually just how straight people try to get with gay people" rationale for gay trans people is incredibly weak? and also HRT has a relatively low but non-zero chance of changing sexual orientation so it wouldn't even be reliable as a means of "becoming straight"? but a guy who couldn't reliably tell the difference between a tomboy and a trans boy figured out the former is more common than the latter + in one whole country where being trans is legal but being gay is not, sometimes cis gay people transition, so OBVIOUSLY that means sexism and homophobia are the driving factors even in countries with significant transphobia. or something.) anyway i hope zucker knows and hates how many gay people and allies are using his own study to trash-talk any attempts to be Less Gay. ideally nobody would take his nonsense seriously at all but it doesn't seem we'll be spared from that any time soon so i will take my schadenfreude where i can.

Steensma's studies have the exact same problem re: irrelevant criteria so "well someone ELSE had the same results!" is not exactly convincing. This is not "oh trans people are refusing to pay attention to these studies because they disagree with them regardless of scientific rigor", it's "one biased guy using outdated criteria found exactly the numbers everyone would expect based on that criteria, i can't imagine why trans people are treating those numbers as relevant to the past criteria but not present definitions, let's find a SECOND guy using outdated criteria. Why do people keep saying the outdated criteria is not relevant to the current state of trans healthcare. Don't we all know it's quantity over quality with scientific studies. (Please don't ask what the quantity of studies disagreeing with me is.)"

Steensma also counted patients as 'not persisting as transgender' if they ghosted him on follow-up which counted for a third of his study's "detransitioners" and a fifth of the total subjects and. look. i'm not saying none of them detransitioned, or assuming they all didn't would be notably more accurate, but i think we can safely treat twenty percent of subjects as a bit high for making a default assumption, especially when some of them might have simply not been interested in a study on whether or not they still know who they are. Fuck knows i've seen pro-trans studies which didn't make assumptions about the people who didn't respond still get prodded by anti-trans people insisting "the number of people claiming they don't regret transitioning can't possibly be so high, some of the people who responded must have been lying. (Scientific rigor means thinking studies which disagree with me are wrong even if the only explanation is the subjects lying and studies which agree with me are right even if we need to make assumptions about a lot of subjects to get there.)"

and this is not new information. not the issues with zucker, not the issues with steensma, not any of the issues because this is not a new study, it's a review of older studies, which in itself doesn't mean "bad" or "useless" -- sometimes that allows connecting some previously-unconnected dots -- but the idea this is going to absolutely blow apart the Woke Media, vindicate Rowling and Lineham, and "save" ""gay"" children from """being forcibly transed""" is bullshit. At most it'll get dragged around and eagerly cited by all the people looking for anything vaguely scientific-sounding to justify their beliefs, and maybe even people who only read headlines and sound bites will buy it, but the people who really believe it will be people who already agreed with all its "findings" and have already been dragging around the existing studies and are just excited to have a shiny new citation for it.

the response from people who've been really reading research on transgender people all along is going to be more along the lines of "……yeah. yeah, i already knew about that. do you need a three-page essay on why i don't think it means what you think it means? because i don't have time for that homework right now but maybe i can pencil it in for next semester if you haven't learned how to check your own sources by then."

#cass review #lgbt #transgender #transphobia #science #'tldr': *writes three-page essay* 'but i don't have time for a three-page essay rn' #also: holy run-on sentences #but seriously this is not going to change the mind of a single person who would be influenced by reading scientific studies #the studies already existed and have BEEN being used by terfs who think ZUCKER of aLL PEOPLE #is a good gotcha against anyone saying 'reputable studies indicate detransitioning is pretty uncommon actually' #but the responses i find truly fascinating are the ones along the lines of #'ohohoho i bet all those people who criticized jkr will be reeeaal quiet now' w. why. #if past studies didn't convince them the Special Collector's Edition of past studies won't #y'all don't have a monopoly on Scientific Knowledge just because y'all think your Fisher-Price level Gender Definition is the best #sometimes. other scientific information exists. and trans people and allies can even read that scientific information. #i know a weird number of y'all think we run on vibes and liberal propaganda but i promise a ton of us are absolute DORKS

[utilitycaster]

A few recent books I've read and disliked led me to this conclusion but it feels like there's been this switch over time with queer stories. It used to be that queer relationships (or queerness in general) had to be Show Don't Tell because, well, you could not make them textual! So you get, for example, shows like Legend of Korra, or Xena: Warrior Princess, where you have women who are clearly devoted to each other to a degree that goes beyond mere friendship, and a ton of effort and care is put into that depiction because they can't actually be shown in an explicitly stated relationship. And as a result, these relationships, while they never receive confirmation in the show, are rich and complex.

Now not only is it much easier to make explicitly queer stories outside of niche areas; it's even popular (and, cynically, a marketing tactic). The problem is I've run into a bunch of stories that are marketed very clearly as A Queer Story that forget to like...be a story, or show me why these characters should be in a relationship. It's All Tell No Show: I'm told that the characters are gay and are in a relationship, but no work is done to actually explain why I should care about this beyond "well they are gay and in a gay relationship."

I'm not going to rehash what I discussed here, but Baru Cormorant is an example of those books where I'm given no real reason to care. The protagonist is a lesbian but the prose reads like a phone book. On the other hand, while Starless has a queer disabled woman as a one of the two protagonists, it also provides her with traits other than "queer, disabled, woman, important" and grants her a rich interiority (even though the story is told entirely from the first person point of view of the other protagonist.)

And the thing about the good examples in that link (Starless, Teixcalaan): they show and tell. It's both explicit that these are queer stories with a canon romantic relationship, but the little moments that make up the tapestry of a relationship are given the time that moments in a subtextual - or frankly, even a queerbaiting work are. That's the real tragedy; for queerbaiting to work, you have to actually make the relationship compelling enough for people follow it until you pull the rug out from under them; whereas you can slap a cold fish kiss on a cold fish queer relationship and technically you are Better because it was Explicit Representation even though everything about it was poorly constructed. I would rather have an lazy and shoddy explicit relationship than queerbait just on principle; but honestly I'd rather have a good story that does neither.

One of my more cynical interpretations of this is that writers are either intentionally or inadvertently taking advantage of the legacy of the Show Don't Tell era of queer coding to place the burden of those small moments on the audience. They know that people looking for queer relationships in fiction are used to having to dig for moments and subtext; but instead of providing that subtext, they set up the clunky text and assume the subtext to support it will emerge from the fandom. Or perhaps, more generously, especially for younger queer writers, they are just so used to having to provide that work themselves that they forget they are doing the writing and are able to (and should) layer subtext and text together and weave something actually good.

Either way, it's this that's led to the "Lesbian necromancers in space, need I say more"* era of recommendations, taglines, and writing, in which explicit representation is, if not plentiful, at least available; but a worrying amount of it forgets to actually write realized characters or a relationship with chemistry or a plot that makes sense.

I should also note: there's obviously a TON of straight romances and books that range from mediocre to abominable. I am under no circumstances arguing that "gayboring" media shouldn't exist. But while I don't think queer stories should be held to a higher standard, I don't think I should be obligated to settle for a lower standard either simply because it's gay. I know it's fraught, in that we're at risk of publishers and producers taking away the message "people hate this because it's gay" rather than "people hate this because it's poorly developed," but like...at the very least, could we recommend things in terms of "this is a great book that has a wonderful queer romance" and "this show is gay but it is also deeply mediocre, and if it weren't gay I wouldn't recommend it at all; do what you will with this information."

*I should note: I happen to like The Locked Tomb (of Lesbian Necromancers in Space fame) a lot! I know it's not for everyone; I know it can feel very gimmicky at times. But no matter how you feel, that tagline is DIRE and does a miserable job of representing the books. Like, that premise could suck, actually (and plenty of people find it does) if you're not sold on the mere fact that it's got lesbians, necromancy, or space in it. Worth noting that neither Starless nor the Teixcalaan books were heavily marketed as Queer Romance Fantasy/SF even though both very much are, which does further make me think this is a case of people writing good books that are queer, vs. people writing books with the intention to be on some New Queer SF list or, god forbid, Booktok.

#long post #the book i read this week (light from uncommon stars) was also like. really hit or miss #the locus review of it is spot on. like. i think one of the characters' stories is fantastic but i think it's afraid to have any bite. #also this was out of scope for this post but like. i have recommended terra ignota before #and like. it is saying THE MOST about Gender since Le Guin or Butler imo. but it's NOT marketed as queer at all #and part of that is that it's really not capable to read it as a romance (certainly not a happy one) despite there being queer pairs in it

[gendiebrainrotreceipts]

I had an anti harassment workshop in my school. One of the situations was refusal to use the correct 'they' pronoun and the workshop leader asked what we would do and this girl goes "I'd record the girl misgendering the person and show the video to higher ups" and im just sitting there like wow that's freak behaviour. Like does that not sound insane

🙃🙃 it’s like something straight out of 1984. At least she has time to grow out of that mindset I guess. What did the workshop leader say to that?

#I don’t think it’s uncommon esp now for teenagers to think in such black and white ways #I’d be more concerned if this was a workplace thing #radfem safe #gender critical

[bogkeep]

tried to sketch down an idea on the plane. it's not revolutionary by any means but it's a Very Pretty Dainty Prince and a Huge Scarred Lady Knight. im gonna be very brave and give the prince a curly little moustache BUT he shaves it off often either for vibes or for crossdressing purposes. both of them get mistaken for wrong gender all the time and they don't correct anyone. doesn't help that knight lady tends to keeps her helmet on

#sketch #i need to work on the proportions and stuff so they both look like co-existing humans ahaha #they sadly can't exist in iphimery universe because there's not enough gender roles in it to play around w this #i know this is not at all an uncommon concept but i NEED the lady to be BULKIER and MORE UNKEMPT #i still feel like im drawing her too pretty. how do i stop

[neproxrezi]

actually on that note, more than Not Being Misgendered what i'd love to change about my voice is make people able to hear and understand my name

some sort of wizard or maybe a pernicious frog cursed me at some point and whenever i tell someone like a receptionist or whatever that my name is Brooke they Drastically Mishear it and or come up with names i've never heard before

things people have written down or referred to me as after i said my name was Brooke

Mr Brooke (they then asked for my first name. and like this is the least bad offender on the list but what kind of person just introduces themselves by their surname)

Brick

Blake

Bruck

Vrooke (this wasn't a typo on a keyboard, they hand wrote it and then also called me Mr Vrooke on the phone)

Derek

#i'd get it if my first name was uncommon and hard to pronounce like my surname. but like #am i speaking to people from behind a fucking wall of lead?? #how badly am i enunciating my name? #it's happened so often i've started worrying i must be mumbling but IT HAPPENS WHEN I SPEAK CLEARLY #VROOKE. #vrooke is WORSE THAN MISHEARING IT AS DEREK #i dont always get misgendered they get it right more often than not #my proudest one was recently being gendered correctly when i had stubble and a big baggy mens leather jacket #i don't even Really mind accidental misgendering #i can bend it in my mind and hear 'sir' in a butch way #but i wish i was better at communicating and apparently better at enunciating my own name #dibi

[zareleonis]

not to be a hater but i don't like when people change furina's name when they make him transmasc like who the fuck is furin furine furino, FURINA is FINE. PERFECT, even

#as i've said before: furina is a gender neutral name if you're delusional enough #and i am so that's that #actually just in general i dont like changing names of /fictional characters/ when making them a different gender if i can avoid it #some names are too much to cling to but many characters have uncommon or straight up made up names that can easily be played off as neutral #personal taste thing ok?

[perennial-bee]

"trans people are only trans because of oppressive gender roles and if we just got rid of the gender roles nobody would be trans" might sound like a hot take, a thoughtful and compassionate take, but unfortunately it is ice cold and does not understand how being trans works at all. meet and talk to and listen to more trans people - preferably in real life - before making assertions like this, especially if you yourself are not trans.

#if this was true then explain to me why my friend is still a man even though his parents tried to raise him with as few #imposed gender roles as possible #every type of woman under the sun was thrust his way with the insistence that his sex was not a limitation #and a girl can be anything she wants and do and study anything she wants #he saw and appreciated all of that and at the end of the day his kid self was still like #'thats nice and i hear you but i'm growing up into a man. you cant fool me' #this is not every trans experience but it is not an UNcommon trans experience. so this argument just doesnt hold water #also if 'giving into your dysphoria' would have made you want to die #and accepting a gender that's in line w your bio sex makes you feel better #congratulations. you are cis #and therefore you do not get to speak to the trans experience #YOUR experience is valid. projecting your experience onto the trans community is wrong #it reads to me the same as someone who thought they were ace until they realized they weren't #concluding that therefore nobody is really ace and all ace people just *think* they are #and their hidden allosexuality can be 'cured' or jumpstarted by whatever set of circumstances triggered *your* sexuality #(knew someone irl exactly like this and it was deeply frustrating) #or thinking that gay people just need to meet the right person to be in a str8 relationship with bc YOU found someone like that #like no sorry...you're just bi #i could go on #i'm frustrated. i understand where this take comes from but it's really misinformed. you need to listen to trans ppl. start there

[weaselishmcdiesel]

guess who just realized something really obvious

#i wanted to make an art about it to rationalize my thoughts askdhf #i just think it's funny how obvious it but i didnt know there was a word for it #ok anyway carry on sorry ajksdfh #the flags are uncommon i think so ill name them in order #gender apathetic androromantic and demiaroace #art #my art

[outherworldlycoining]

New quality: Dipherine

Here another quality coining in my "Let's put a name to each possible outherine experience" series.

I've already coined (or rather recoined) itherine as an umbrella term for those outherinities that are distinct to femininity, masculinity, epicenity, neutrality (both neutrinity and neuterinity), agenrinity, and androgyny, while not being xenine, kenoine, or anything of the sort, regardless of if they are completely separated or are related to the pre-existent qualities in some way.

And anderine for the combination and/or intersection between itherine qualities.

Now, I've come up with a name for all those outherine qualities that are born from uncommon combinations or intersections of the main qualities: Dipherine.

Dipherine comes from the combination of "diphy-" meaning "two" and the word "different".

Some example of dipherine qualities are:

Neutrality + femininity - troininity

Neutrality + masculinity - Droxininity

Femininity + epicenity

Masculinity + epicenity

Epicenity + neutrality

agenrinity + femininity

agenrinity + masculinity

agenrinity + neutrality

agenrinity + epicenity

The combination of any of the main non-androgynous qualities with androgyny

Dipherine flag

[ID: A flag with seven stripes, all of different colours and the same size. The colours, from top to bottom are: dark rosé, pastel, orangy yellow, azure, teal, dark orange/orange-brown, pastel chartreuse, and indigo. /END ID]

The colours of the flag were chosen by choosing the colours in between a continuum of the different colours of the visible spectrum

Rose - Red and violet.

Orangy yellow/gold - Yellow and orange.

Azure/cerulean - Blue and cyan.

Teal - Cyan and green.

orange-brown - Orange and red.

Charteuse - Green and yellow

Indigo - Violet and blue.

#dipherine #outherine #gender quality #macroquality #uncommon combinations of pre-existent qualities #term coining #nonbinary #mogai #liom

[agnesandhilda]

shoutout to utena tenjou for being lgbt all at once!!!!!

#bolo liveblogs #people have been debating if she's bi or a lesbian since Forever and trans interpretations of her aren't uncommon #considering her whole gender situation. the g is less obvious but I could make it work I know

[twyz]

it’s finally done!! my hands are in so much pain!!!

Just a friendly reminder! I get extremely uncomfortable by suggestive comments on my art, no matter if it’s about the characters or how they look in my style. Please refrain from making such comments! thank you so much!!

#twyz #chucky #bride of chucky #made in ibis paint #charles lee ray #tiffany valentine #glen and glenda #glen ray #glenda ray #i have been made aware that the twins are gender #and as someone kins glen i’m very happy about that #also!! roz got a project done in a normal timespan?? #woah #uncommon occurrence there #it will probably never happen again #i will also never be drawing all of those ruffles again #fuck all that #respectfully #i still can’t get over glen’s shit eating grin #i literally love them so much

[bucephaly]

Fuck whatever terfs and transphobes are treating the term 'socialization' as if it's evidence for bioessentialism or whatever as if it's literally the exact opposite, fuck them for taking a useful term we should be aware of and poisoning it so now people think whoever uses it is a piece of shit.

#its a real thing and a useful term to know and it literally means #'certain behavioral traits being associated with certain sexes isnt the result of biological differences but rather #subtle ways each of us were 'trained' to conform to our agab our entire lives' #its literally saying 'see gender is just social shit and is not biological' #and also hey lets all be aware of this and deconstruct it. even cis people #cuz shit i have cis guy friends who i can tell are still reluctant to do shit for fear of being seen as feminine #even though theyre gay or whatever #and on the more extreme [but still very normal and not uncommon at all] end this shit can be seriously damaging #like the idea that 'men' need to bottle their emotions #but like. i didnt get offended when my anthro prof teaching a gender anthro class told me 'thats your female socialization telling you #to not value yourself!“ #because she wasnt calling me a woman. she was reminding me of a dumb thing society taught me that i should deconstruct

[pansyfemme]

im glad that when i showed my nude paintings for my final no one commented on how they all had genital piercings bc i was not prepared to bullshit a meaning for it instead of admitting theyre all my ocs who have those in their canon designs because thats a ‘thing’ of mine

#my biggest ‘thing’ honestly i adore piercings and the act of piercing despite only having my ears done currently #i have. plans tho #including some uncommon/famously painful ones. im just weird about piercings tbh #its both gender affirming related and just the intimacy of piercing its really beautiful to me